We’re 49 years old, love beautiful landscapes, meeting locals, discovering local food and traditions, and we avoid overly touristy places.
We enjoy hiking, cycling, running, and diving.
This is our first time in Thailand (my husband knows Bangkok).
We arrive on Friday, November 13th in Bangkok (city visit) and return on Friday, November 27th.
We’re considering heading south (possibly toward Krabi) from the 14th to the 18th to enjoy the beautiful beaches, go diving, and see Khao Sok...
Then back to Bangkok and on to Kanchanaburi to see the Sai Yok Noi waterfalls, followed by a bike visit to Ayutthaya.
From there, we’d take an overnight train to the north: Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, and the Lantern Festival from November 21st to 25th.
On the 26th, we’d take a flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok (city visit), and on the 27th, we have our flight back to France.
Does this itinerary seem too packed?
Should we remove some things to avoid feeling rushed and fully enjoy the trip?
Do you recommend anything other than Krabi?
Good evening,
Here’s a more readable version, unless I’m mistaken:
Bangkok, 1 night
Krabi + Khao Sok, 5 nights
Kanchanaburi + Ayutthaya... 1 night 🏴☠️
Train to Chiang Rai, 1 night
Chiang Mai + Rai, 5 nights
Bangkok, 1 night
What’s the point of that first almost useless day in Bangkok when your trip is already limited? From the arrival airport (BKK), there are several flights a day to Krabi (including 5 low-cost options) that would let you connect immediately.
Does this itinerary seem too packed to you?
Yes, Kanchanaburi and Ayutthaya deserve at least 3 nights and 1 night respectively.
Similarly, 5 nights for Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai is too little—adding 2 or 3 more wouldn’t hurt to avoid rushing.
Should we cut some things to avoid it feeling like a "race" and fully enjoy the trip?
Clearly, yes.
A few tips:
- Direct low-cost flights exist from Krabi to Chiang Mai (3 on 19/11).
- There are 1 or 2 tourist shuttles from Kanchanaburi to Ayutthaya (book at least the day before with your Kanchanaburi accommodation). This is the only option to connect the two without going through Bangkok.
- Krabi to Kanchanaburi route: Take a night train from Trang or Surat Thani to Ban Pong, then a bus from Ban Pong to Kan (every 20 minutes, 1 hour) to avoid passing through Bangkok (saving about 5 hours). Or, if flying: low-cost flights with AirAsia, Nok Air, or Thai Lion Air from Krabi to Bangkok Don Muang (DMK), then a taxi to the Mo Chit bus terminal for minivans, and a minivan (every 20 minutes) to Kan in 2.5–3 hours (luggage on your lap or rent an extra seat for it).
- During the Loy Krathong festival week, flights and trains book up fast, as do accommodations in Chiang Mai.
- The Loy Krathong ceremony is celebrated by locals everywhere there’s water, so you don’t need to go to a specific city to see it.
- Sai Yok Noi isn’t worth the trip from Kanchanaburi alone (2–3 hours round trip). It’s better to combine it with other interesting sites in the area (Tham Krasae viaduct, a night on a raft in Sai Yok Yai National Park, etc.).
We (...) enjoy (...) meeting locals,
With the places you’re planning to visit and at this pace, you’ll only meet people with direct or indirect commercial interests.
We avoid overly touristy spots.
Even though November is less crowded, your itinerary is still quite tourist-heavy.
Thanks Songsam for your reply.
On 11/13, I’ll join my husband who will already be in Bangkok for work for 5 days. We can only start our trip on Saturday, 11/14.
Following your advice, I’m wondering if, with 18 days on site, it might be better to just explore the North and skip the beaches in the South.
So, visit Kanchanaburi, the waterfalls, and possibly Ayutthaya, then head to Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai, and return to Bangkok on 11/26.
Otherwise, option 2:
Spend a max of 4 days at the beach, then take a direct flight to the north and visit Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai during the Lantern Festival, and return on 11/25 with the overnight train (apparently, it’s an experience worth having), and spend the night of 11/26 in Bangkok before flying back to France.
But in this case, we’d skip Kanchanaburi and its waterfalls...
I’ll admit, I’m a bit lost because people I know tell me the North is stunning and that the beaches of Ko Phi Phi and Ko Lanta are also a must-see...
the overnight train (apparently it's an experience you've got to try)
As long as you hurry.
Option 1
For a sleeper train Ayutthaya or Bangkok-Chiang Mai on 17 or 18/11, everything is fully booked except for train 109, which gets you there at 4 AM (+ delay, which in some cases can actually be a good thing...).
Or seated places.
Return Chiang Mai-Bangkok by sleeper on 25 or 26/11: everything is fully booked, only seated places left (in this case, VIP buses are more comfortable and faster).
Otherwise, flights—but hurry there too.
Or buses, plenty of companies offering comfortable to VIP options.
No train from Chiang Rai to Bangkok.
Both options seem good to me, but personally, I’d go with option 1 because any beach stay feels like a waste of time to me when you consider all there is to see elsewhere in this country.
Not translated into English yet. Original French text:
Bonjour
Finalement nous allons faire que le coté terre cad :
2 jours entier à kachanaburi
1 jour entier à Ayutthaya puis bus de nuit couchette pr Chiang Rai
2 nuits à Chiang Rai
3 nuits libres
3 nuits à Chiang Mai pour la fête des lanternes et vol retour pour Bangkok.
Que me conseille tu pour ces 3 nuits libres?
Merci
Virginie
Not translated into English yet. Original French text:
Bonjour
Le 14 on va louer une voiture
Le soir on dort à Kanchanaburi
On y passe la journée du 15 et du 16 puis en milieu d’après midi on rentre à Bangkok pour prendre un bus pour aller dormir à Ayutthaya
La journée du 17 on visite Ayutthaya et le soir on prend un bus de nuit couchette pour Chiang Rai.
Connais tu un bon tuyau pour louer une voiture ?
L’idéal serait de la louer de l’hôtel le 14 et la ramener le 16 pas loin de la gare de Mochit
Et que conseilles tu de faire entre Chiang Rai ( où on passe 2 nuits) et Chiang Mai (où on passe 3 nuits et fêtes des lanternes à ce moment là)? La zone de Mae? (Le prénom de notre fille d’ailleurs 😉… c’est un signe!🤣)
Not translated into English yet. Original French text:
16 puis en milieu d’après midi on rentre à Bangkok pour prendre un bus pour aller dormir à Ayutthaya
Revenir de Kanchanaburi, rendre la voiture, rejoindre Motchit puis continuer vers Ayuthaya va vous couter beaucoup en temps, en outre cela se passera aux pires heures d'embouteillages de Bkk.
Ayutthaya et le soir on prend un bus de nuit couchette pour Chiang Rai.
Selon mon expérience, en Thaïlande les bus couchettes n'existent pas. Si tu as trouvé une info disant le contraire je veux bien que tu me communiques un lien qui y mène stp.
En réalité il n'existe pas de bus Ayuthaya-Chiang Rai, mais ce qui se fait peut-être est d'en prendre un qui fait Bkk-C.Rai sur la route 2x4 voies qui contourne Ayuthaya avec transport pour le trajet centre-ville-2x4 voies inclus. C'est une pratique courante pour faire Ayuthaya-C.Mai mais pour C.Rai je ne sais pas. Parles-en à ton hébergeur d'Ayuthaya dès le soir où tu y arrives et si c'est possible il t'arrangera le tout. Sinon il faudra retourner à Motchit.
Connais tu un bon tuyau pour louer une voiture ?
L’idéal serait de la louer de l’hôtel le 14 et la ramener le 16 pas loin de la gare de Mochit
Non, je ne sais pas conduire. J'ignore s'il est possible de prendre une voiture à un endroit et de la rendre à un autre, peut-être chez un gros loueur?
Chiang Mai (où on passe 3 nuits et fêtes des lanternes à ce moment là)?
Chiang Mai durant Loi Krathong? J'espère que tu as déjà réservé l'hébergement car ces derniers sont certes très nombreux mais à cette période les touristes tant thaïs qu'étrangers le sont aussi, attends-toi à la cohue.
que conseilles tu de faire entre Chiang Rai (...) et Chiang Mai (...)? La zone de Mae? (Le prénom de notre fille d’ailleurs 😉... c’est un signe!🤣)
Mae se prononce mê et signifie entre autres "mère". Je ne connais pas de ville nommée Mae Tout Seul. Dans le nord existent Mae Hong Son*, Mae Sariang**, Mae Sai*** qui méritent un séjour (surtout la première) mais aucune n'est géographiquement située entre C.Rai et C.Mai. A laquelle penses-tu?
* 12h a/r de minivan depuis C.Mai
** 8h a/r de minivan depuis C.Mai
*** 3h a/r de bus depuis C.Rai
Entre les 2 Chiang, Phayao serait une étape sympa et bien placée. Capitale de province assez tranquille, ambiance détendue, joli cadre, jolie promenade animée en fin d'après-midi au bord de son agréable lac, des hébergements, contact désintéressé facile avec les locaux, tourisme uniquement thaï et seulement le week-end, à 1h15 de minivan de C.Rai et 2h30 de bus de C.Mai.
Hello.
We’re joining our daughter in Ho Chi Minh City for Christmas—she’s studying there. There’ll be five of us adults, and we couldn’t choose our travel dates, so some flights are fixed. I’ve sketched out the following route, but I’m not sure if it all makes sense. This is our fourth trip to Asia (Thailand twice, Lombok, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore). We often travel on a budget, love authentic spots, and enjoy meeting locals (we’ve done volunteer work and homestays).
18/12: Two of us arrive in HCMC
20/12: Head to Hanoi, where the boys land
20/12 to 23 or 24: Hanoi and day trips around—still deciding
23 or 24 to 26: Phu Quoc, so we can head south and spend Christmas by the beach (one son is crazy about the sea and fishing)
27 to 30: Mekong Delta, stopping in Ha Tien, Chau Doc, and another spot to get back to Ho Chi Minh City
1/1: Return flight to France.
What do you think of this plan—is it doable or totally unrealistic? Any recommendations for a one- or two-day trip from Hanoi (Phu Long, Mai Chau), or is it better to stick around the city?
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Hi,
We're heading out at the end of the year to join family in Cebu. We're planning to spend a week in the area but are struggling to choose between these 3 islands... Ideally, we'd like to have 2 bases to explore two of them. Have any of you visited all three, and which would you recommend? We're into snorkeling, beautiful excursions, and would also love to connect with locals. And ideally, do all that without too much logistical hassle 😅
Thanks for your experiences/tips!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
I don’t know about you, but I’m a huge fan of markets. No matter where I go, in every country or city I visit, I won’t leave without having seen one. I’m mostly talking about food markets. I love the smells, the colors, and watching people from all walks of life stroll around. It’s like a mirror of a country’s culture, and I love soaking it all in.
Thai markets are particularly appealing to me. In my province, there are so many. Maybe more than elsewhere—I’m not sure—but every day, you can find a "Talat Nat." These are traveling markets that set up in specific places on specific days. They only stay open for a few hours. Some attract more shoppers than others because they have more stalls and a wider variety of products. Sometimes, they’re set up in pretty unusual spots: temples, roadside, even on train tracks...
On top of these, there are also markets in the city that stay open all day.
I’d love for you to share your photos of markets, local product stalls, and why not, let’s talk about gastronomy and cuisine too!
I’ll start with my favorite market—it’s 8 kilometers from my place and happens every Tuesday from 2 PM to 5 PM. I never miss a Tuesday unless there’s a downpour... 😉 It’s located in the countryside, in a village famous for its coffee (ThamSing), and inside the grounds of a slightly unusual temple. It’s easy to get to—over the past 10 years, the roads have been paved, which wasn’t the case before and made the trip a bit risky when it rained...
In the first two photos, you’ll see the temple courtyard on a normal day, without the market.
Hi there,
We're planning a little trip along the west side, visiting KL, Malacca, then heading up to Penang and ending with a few days at the beach.
The most common option would be to finish the stay in Langkawi. My question: are there other spots with beautiful beaches on this coast where we could spend 4 to 5 days?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I’d like to know if it’s possible (and reasonable) to travel directly between Battambang and Kampot?
From what I’ve gathered, all the buses between these two destinations go back through Phnom Penh, which means we’d have to spend an extra night there in the middle of our trip. That’s not ideal for us.
Hello, South Sulawesi loop: Makassar-Ramang Ramang-Rantepao-Sengkang-Lake Tempe-Bira. Which direction should I take for this loop, starting and ending in Makassar?
Public transport preferred, and about 3 weeks in total.
Any nice homestays? And tips for solo travel?
Thanks, Françoise
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
After a stay in Hua Hin and before another in Chiang Mai, I’d like to break up the trip from Bangkok to Chiang Mai into several stops. I’ve found bus and train routes on Maps, but I’m stuck on the connection between Ban Rai / Uthai Thani and then Nakhon Sawan (bus for the latter).
Does anyone have any idea where I could find info, maybe via Route 333?
I know my question isn’t super general or exciting, but if you can help, thanks!
Hi there,
We’re planning a backpacking trip to Northern Malaysia and northern Sumatra in February/March 2027. It’ll be our first time in these areas (we’re pretty familiar with the rest of Asia). Thanks in advance for your favorite spots and diving recommendations! It’s still very open-ended—we haven’t set anything in stone yet.
Thanks,
I’d like to do a kind of personal retreat this winter and I’m looking for a destination near the sea (preferably an island) that’s quiet. Is that possible in Thailand, or should I consider another destination?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Dayi
This September, my partner and I are heading to North Sulawesi for 3 weeks. Our international flight is with Malaysia Airlines, departing from Paris. We have a layover in KL, then fly to Denpasar, followed by a domestic flight from Denpasar to Manado. We land in Bali Denpasar on 05/09 around 12:00 PM, and our flight to Manado is on 07/09 at 1:30 AM. The plan was to have at least one night (from the 5th to the 6th of September) between our international flight and our flight to Manado, just to recharge a bit since we're not 20 anymore 😛. My question is, given the very short stop in Bali (a day and a half), is it better to stay in Denpasar rather than go to Ubud for the night? I’ve been to Bali before, and from what I remember, even though the distances are short, transfers take a long time because of the extremely heavy traffic—but I was there in July, not September. I’m not sure if that makes a big difference?
If the answer is "it’s better to stay in Denpasar," are there any nice places to visit? There’s very little feedback about the city since tourists usually don’t stick around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hello everyone! I’m heading off solo in February and wanted to share my rough itinerary with you. Does this sound doable?
PS: I’m not really into beaches.
D1 Departure on February 17, 2027
D2 Arrival in Kuala Lumpur – stroll through Chinatown and visit the Petronas Towers
D3: Kuala Lumpur – Chow Kit Market, Batu Caves, Little India, Bukit Bintang downtown area
D4: Early morning bus to Malacca. Explore Malacca in the afternoon and evening
D5: Another 2–3 hours in Malacca in the morning, then bus back to Kuala Lumpur. Merdeka Square area. Stay in Chinatown
D6: Bus trip to Kuala Tahan. Night tour
D7: Morning – canopy walk and Bukit Terisek hike. Afternoon – off to Lata Berkoh
D8 & D9: 2-day jungle trek in Taman Negara National Park
D10: Head to Cameron Highlands
D11: Morning hike through the plantations. Afternoon still to be decided
D12: Morning – excursion to Mossy Forest and Sungei Plantation. Afternoon bus to Ipoh
D13: Morning – Mirror Lake / Sam Poh Temple area. Afternoon – explore downtown Ipoh
D14: Morning train to Penang. Afternoon – wander around Georgetown
D15: Morning – Penang Hill and Keh Loh Temple. Afternoon – Georgetown
D16: Bus to Butterfly Garden and Spice Garden. Late afternoon – Burmese and Thai temples
D17: Morning flight to Singapore. Afternoon – Chinatown and Marina Bay tour
D18: Morning – Gardens by the Bay area. Afternoon – Boat Quay, Clarke Quay, Kampong Glam
D19: Morning – The Ridges area and Botanical Garden. Afternoon – Little India, then back to Chinatown before 11:15 PM return flight
D20: Morning arrival
Hi everyone.
I’m heading to Malaysia for five weeks over the holiday season.
I just found out that tourists can pay by QR code like locals (street food, small shops) to avoid using cash.
This works with apps like Wise or TNG eWallet.
Has anyone tried this system before?
Hi everyone,
I’ll be in western Malaysia for 20 days in January and February.
I’m coming from southern Thailand to Ipoh for the Thaipusam festivities.
Then it’s off to Pangkor Island.
I’ll finish up in Malacca for the Chinese New Year celebrations before heading to Singapore.
I’ve got a 6-day gap.
I was thinking of going to K.Lipis for the jungle train and heading to Dabong, but the caves might not be open.
Any suggestions around K.L.?
Day treks?
A stopover between K.L. and Malacca?
Thanks
Hi, I’ve read that these two volcanoes are super popular and that there are *tons* of people for sunrise, especially in July. I’m looking for firsthand accounts from anyone who’s done it later, around 9–10 a.m.
Thanks for your help!
Laëtitia
First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
