Any quiet spots in Thailand in February?
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Hi there, I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...

Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
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PH Philippebrg Regular ·
Hello,

Thailand is full of quiet spots. I’d say, without exaggerating, that 80% of the country sees few or no tourists—they inevitably flock to the same old places everyone talks about. Even along the coast, you’ll find hundreds of kilometers of beaches with very few people, if any. I’m not counting the islands, though there are still a few truly wild ones out there. If you want to avoid the burn-offs, head south toward the mainland—I’m sure you’ll find what you’re looking for.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hi Marien,

Were there any slash-and-burn fires in Thung Chang?
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Hi Marien,

Were there burn-offs in Thung Chang?

Hi Thierry, I don’t remember very well—I’d have to look at my photos again—but I think there were. In any case, there was a lot of haze in the pictures. But you’re right, I got so focused on the burn-offs during my stay in Chiang Rai (which made me really sick) that I forgot everything I’d told you about that guy I met in Nan who had a great homestay in Thung Chang. Though when he took me around the mountains near Pua, it was *super* hazy...
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Hello,

Thailand is full of quiet spots. I’d say, without overstating it, that 80% of the country sees few or no tourists, who inevitably flock to the same old places everyone talks about. Even by the sea, you’ll find hundreds of kilometers of beaches with very few people—or none at all. I’m not including the islands, though there are still a few truly wild ones out there. If you want to avoid the crowds, head south to the mainland—I’m sure you’ll find what you’re looking for.

Hi, and thanks for the quick reply! The tricky part is actually finding them, since, of course, they’re not mentioned in the guidebooks…
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Hi Marien,

Were there burn-offs in Thung Chang?

I’m relieved—my memory didn’t fail me. I tried sending you some photos—pretty gross ones—taken in Thung Chang so you could see the burn-offs and the clouds of smoke and haze. Unfortunately, after having to try four times just to reply to your message, once I posted the photo, a banner popped up: Oops! An error occurred: You tried to upload an attached file, but this feature has been disabled.

Haven’t been here in a while, and I see the bugs are still thriving
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
So to summarize, you're looking for: - a small town or village, - with a hospital just in case, - not by the sea, - without other tourists, foreigners, or Thais, - outside the provinces known for burning*

Any criteria to add, remove, or change?

* which, based on info gathered here and there, are Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai for the worst, and to a lesser extent Mae Hong Son, Phayao, Nan**, Lamphun, and Lampang (see the map below for reference)

** this one listed based on your mention of Thung Chang and Pua

https://ontheworldmap.com/thailand/thailand-provinces-map.jpg

I haven't been here in a while—I see the bugs are still thriving here

Yeah, it’s been acting up again lately.
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
So to summarize, you're looking for: - a small town or village, - with a hospital just in case, - not by the sea, - without other tourists, foreigners, or Thais, - outside the provinces known for burning*

Any criteria to add, remove, or change?

* According to info gathered here and there, these are Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai for the worst, and to a lesser extent Mae Hong Son, Phayao, Nan**, Lamphun, and Lampang (see map below for reference)

** This one listed based on your note about Thung Chang and Pua

https://ontheworldmap.com/thailand/thailand-provinces-map.jpg

Haven't been here in a while—I see the bugs are still thriving here

Yeah, it's been acting up again lately.

Hi Thierry, Thanks for your perfectly accurate summary... Just need to add two (three) people I don’t want to see every 5 meters. But in that case, I’d basically have to avoid all of Thailand...
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
The suggestions that come to mind aren’t exactly new since one is Sri Chiangmai on Route 211 in Isan (17°57'26.58"N 102°34'19.43"E) by the Mekong River, and the other is Tha Song Yang* on Route 105 by the Moei River, which borders Myanmar (17°13'28.31"N 98°13'39.90"E). We’ve already discussed both areas during your earlier trip planning.

*Not to be confused with BAN Tha Song Yang on the same road—it’s really nice too, but there’s no accommodation and no guarantee of finding a hospital nearby.

Getting to SCM: two direct buses daily (including one overnight) from Bangkok’s Mo Chit station, around 12 hours. Getting to TSY: several daily buses (from standard to VIP, day and night) from Mo Chit to Mae Sot (9 hours), then a 2-hour songthaew ride every 20 minutes to TSY.

Il y a juste à ajouter deux (trois) personnages que je n'ai plus envie de voir tous les 5m.

Is this line supposed to interest me?
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
The suggestions that come to mind aren't really new since one is Sri Chiangmai on Route 211 in Isan (17°57'26.58"N 102°34'19.43"E) on the Mekong, and the other is Tha Song Yang* on Route 105 by the Moei River, which borders Myanmar (17°13'28.31"N 98°13'39.90"E)—two areas we’d already discussed during your earlier planning.

Ah, right, I remember now. I’d made a dumb mix-up: Northern Thailand = burning season everywhere.

Just add two (three) characters I don’t want to see every 5 meters.

Is this sentence supposed to interest me?

No, just a wink to all travelers heading to Thailand. Those three are *everywhere*. Too much is too much. And on top of that, we’re not allowed to say what we think about them! 😡
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
For a change, how about a loop around Bangkok?

Kanchanaburi, Sangkhlaburi, and Thong Pha Phum, Ayutthaya, maybe Khao Yai National Park?
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
For a change, how about a loop around Bangkok?

Kanchanaburi, Sangkhlaburi, and Thong Pha Phum, Ayutthaya, maybe Khao Yai National Park?

I can’t—and don’t want to—give details here. I can’t explore on foot like I used to when traveling. Not even sure I’ll make it back to India. I get around with a cane now, struggling... Like an old man I’d forgotten I was, with all that energy I used to have.
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MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Waiting for the wheelchair? 🦼
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
I can't walk around exploring like I used to when traveling. (...) I now get around with difficulty using a cane...

In that case, out of the two places I suggested above, Tha Song Yang would be the one I’d recommend—it’s a bit smaller and even more "friendly." Want me to post some photos? (The bug’s been fixed!)
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
I can no longer explore on foot the way I used to travel. (...) I now get around with difficulty using a cane...

In that case, of the two places I suggested above, Tha Song Yang would be the one I’d recommend—it’s a bit smaller and even more "friendly." Want me to send you some photos? (the bug’s been fixed)

Yes, I’d love to see some photos. Thanks. I *have* to split my India trip in two after 90 days, so I need a country that’s not too far, not too expensive for flights or the stay (2 weeks max this time). I’m torn between Thailand and Nepal. I’m more drawn to Nepal, but I’m worried about the cold. But landing in a familiar airport, with a familiar currency, a more modern country, better organized for tourism, with more flexible immigration options… that tips the scales toward Thailand, of course. I’ll look for the map you sent me to locate Tha Song Yang again. I trust your judgment—you’ve totally "got" my situation. But, well, I hope a wheelchair isn’t in my near future. And I’m trying to get used to walking long distances over time with a cane—or even without. I’m not about to sit in a hotel chair staring at the scenery—if there even *is* any. No way!

Thanks so much for your patience and kindness.
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
I need a country that's not too far, not too expensive for flights and stay (2 weeks max this time)... I'm torn between Thailand and Nepal. More drawn to Nepal but I'm worried about the cold. But arriving at a familiar airport, with a known currency, a more modern country, better organized for tourism, with more varied and flexible immigration conditions...

And what about Sri Lanka?

I’ll look for the map you sent me to locate Tha Song Yang again

Here it is: https://www.thailand-ticket.de/Chiang-Mai-Hotel-Buchen/north-thailand-map.htm, but be careful because in this area it’s not very accurate, like most other maps, by the way. That’s why I gave you the geographic coordinates so you can find the place by pasting them into Google Earth, Google Maps, or even Google’s search engine*.

On the map I’m linking again, the Tha Song Yang we’re interested in is in the right place, where the road gets closer to the border. Further northwest, the BAN Tha Son Yang shown is actually Mae Sarit, and finally, the second BAN Tha Song Yang even further northwest is in the right spot just before the road moves away from the border toward Mae Sariang.

* It doesn’t work with Lilo or Kwant search engines.

I’ll take care of the photos.
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Thanks for the map—it saves me from having to look it up!

Funny story: This morning I was at the hospital. After waiting for over an hour, I found out the doctor had left. He’d completely forgotten about me! It’s no better than the hiccups you get in Thailand or India.
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
Regarding the promised photos, hang tight—I’m wondering if I should write up a little travelogue about the whole route from Mae Sot to Mae Sariang. If I don’t end up doing that, I’ll just post the photos from TSY here as originally planned.
MA Marien33 Veteran ·
Regarding the promised photos, hang tight—I’m wondering if I should write a mini-travelogue about the whole route from Mae Sot to Mae Sariang. If I don’t end up doing that, I’ll just post the TSY photos here as originally planned.

OK, good luck!

I’m super busy working on two other projects right now—text and photos
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DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Regarding the promised photos, be patient a little longer—I’m currently wondering if I should write a sort of mini-travelogue about the whole route from Mae Sot to Mae Sariang. If I don’t end up doing that, I’ll just post the TSY photos here as originally planned.

Personally, I’d love a little trip report on this area… I passed through Mae Sariang a few years ago—beautiful region, and the river/border is something to see. I’d definitely go back.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
a little TR about this spot...

I’m not sure what a "TR" is, so I’ll guess it’s something between a Topo and a Travelogue.

Mae Sariang, beautiful area and the river/border is a must-see...

Aren’t you thinking of the Salawin River, actually? That’s not the one I’d talk about, but the Moei. Also, I wouldn’t go into detail about Mae Sariang (or Mae Sot), but rather the road that connects the two and the villages it passes through. Still interested?
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Yeah, it's more the Salawin River that interests me... already took a long-tail boat trip along it between the two countries, and I'd love to do it again...

PS: Sorry for the "TR"—it means travel report in proper English... oops...

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