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Avis sur itinéraire dans l'ouest américain en famille en août 2008
by Vanessa11
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
Nous préparons un voyage dans l'ouest américain en août 2008 à 4 dont 2 enfants (11 et 15 ans) en essayant de serrer le budget. Nous ne sommes pas de grands voyageurs mais vous nous donnez envie de le devenir rapidement Nous voulions votre avis sur l'itinéraire envisagé et des conseils sur les balades, hôtels, le budget, etc. même si nous lisons déjà très attentivement vos discussions mais peut-être pas assez donc ...à l'aide SVP
Logement en famille à Los Angeles et San José pour les autres étapes, rien de réserver mais des noms d'hôtels susceptibles de l'être.
01/vol Toulouse -Los angeles (tjs pas réservé car mal renseignés par une agence qui nous avait dit d'attendre mi-décembre pour leurs tarifs négociés !! et évidemment tout a augmenté !!)
02/08 Studios Universal
03/08 San Diego (zoo, Balboa Park + la baie)
04/08 Hollywood + plages + courses et repos car trajet le lendemain
05/08 Trajet Los Angeles (Santa Ana) - Williams (hôtel Motel 6)
06/08 Visite du Grand Canyon (pas trop au moins pour le sens de la visite) avec survol hélico pour les enfants (est-ce possible sans adultes car budget serré)-Trajet Kayenta (Hôtel Best Western mais aimerait trouver mieux)
07/08 Monument Valley + Trajet Page avec si arrivée le permet petite croisière "Antelope ..." à 18h30 sur le lac Powell (Hôtel Rodeway Inn)
08/08 Horse Shoe Bend + Upper Antelope+trajet Bryce (hôtel Bryce View Lodge) + quelques points devue
09/08 Journée problématique car trop chargée : Balade Bryce (Navajo ? Queen's Garden ? les 2 ?) +trajet Zion + balade Riverside walk -début Narrows +trajet St George (hôtel)
10/08 Las vegas (hôtel Luxor ou Excalibur ou Circus Circus) spectacles, visite, outlets si temps
11/08 Trajet LV-Bishop avec impasse sur la Vallée de la Mort (nous comptons revenir)
12/08 Bishop - Mono Lake(-peut-être Bodie pour les enfants)-Yosemite (hôtel Cedar Loge ou cabins au Curry Village)
13/08 Yosemite (balade cascades et autres ?)
14/08 matin : séquoias du Yosemite, après-midi : trajet San José
Du 15/08 au 17/08 Visite San Francisco avec logement en famille mais à San José
Nous lisons que San Francisco est bien desservie en transport mais je n'arrive pas à chiffrer le transport SAN JOSE-SAN FRANCISCO et voir s'il vaut mieux que l'on rende ou non la voiture de location à notre arrivée à San José ou bien la conserver
18/08 Vol retour France
Le budget nourriture est dur à chiffrer même si nous lisons les discussions. Pour la voiture, les SUV n'ont pas l'air obligatoire mais quel modèle choisir ?
Mon copain surveillant de très loin mon programme, il semble d'accord pour les gros trajets du 05 et du 11. Il me fait confiance !!!
mais je crains de ne pas être très réaliste parfois et avec les enfants, je ne voudrais pas que cela soit trop pénible et mal préparé, à courir sans cesse sans profiter de rien.
Autre question : jusqu'à quelle heure il est possible de manger le soir dans cette région car je crains nos arrivées tardives et il semblerait que cela ferme tôt
Merci beaucoup d'avance et désolée si beaucoup de réponses ont déjà été données Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année
Merci beaucoup d'avance et désolée si beaucoup de réponses ont déjà été données Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année
Moi je dirais que c'est faisable sans trop compter sur de grandes balades à Bryce ou Zion . D'abord il y aura la chaleur et pour 2 enfants, ce sera peut-être pas l'idéal ! AInsi ta journée du 9 peut passer en se contentant des points de vue et c'est déjà grandiose 😎
Le 11, rien ne t'interdit de traverser Death Valley même sans y passer la soirée ... Juste pour le fun et amortir son Narta Grand Format 😛
A SF moi je garderais la voiture au moins 1 journée pour traverser le Golden Gate, se faire les rues en pente etc .... Ca devrait plaire aux enfants ! Pratique aussi pour aller à Twin Peaks ou faire le quartier des maisons victoriennes .
Traine pas pour ton avion, ça va pas s'améliorer au niveau des tarifs et des dispos 😕
Joyeux Noël !
Le 11, rien ne t'interdit de traverser Death Valley même sans y passer la soirée ... Juste pour le fun et amortir son Narta Grand Format 😛
A SF moi je garderais la voiture au moins 1 journée pour traverser le Golden Gate, se faire les rues en pente etc .... Ca devrait plaire aux enfants ! Pratique aussi pour aller à Twin Peaks ou faire le quartier des maisons victoriennes .
Traine pas pour ton avion, ça va pas s'améliorer au niveau des tarifs et des dispos 😕
Joyeux Noël !
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Merci beaucoup pour ta rapidité
J'étais pas sure pour la voiture, je vais donc suivre tes conseils et la garder pour prendre le Golden Gate Bridge et peut-être la Scenic View (ou pas la peine vaut -il mieux faire les haltes que tu as précisées et faire le reste à "pied". Pour la Vallée de la Mort, j'hésitais car le trajet est long. Apparemment, ça rallongeait pas mal le trajet mais je veux bien faire l'effort. A combien estimerais-tu le trajet LV-Bishop avec des minihaltes à la Death Valley ?
Merci encore
Je trouve que ton itinéraire trop rapide ...
Pourquoi au jour 2 aller à san diego pour revenir apres sur L.A ... Puis tu compte faire trajet williams-Grand canyon-visite pusi trajet vers kayenta en 1 jour ??🤪 et meme l hélico aussi !!!
Idem pour la journée de page, de bryce etc ...
SInon en 1 jour, à las vegas tu auras pas le temps de faire la ville, et les factory !
Voila je trouve qu il va beaucoup trop vite et quelques améliorations ne seront pas de trop!
amicalement
Pourquoi au jour 2 aller à san diego pour revenir apres sur L.A ... Puis tu compte faire trajet williams-Grand canyon-visite pusi trajet vers kayenta en 1 jour ??🤪 et meme l hélico aussi !!!
Idem pour la journée de page, de bryce etc ...
SInon en 1 jour, à las vegas tu auras pas le temps de faire la ville, et les factory !
Voila je trouve qu il va beaucoup trop vite et quelques améliorations ne seront pas de trop!
amicalement
Vis Heureux au Quebec ;)
Pour traverser Death Valley sans trop faire de route, tu peux aussi prévoir l'étape à Lone Pine, juste à la sortie et sur la route vers Bishop. Ca ferait 5h00 + qq haltes . Ce serait dommage de passer aussi près sans rien voir quand même 🤪
A SF, tu peux essayer de cumuler sur 1 journée ce qui est + pratique en voiture et le reste ensuite avec le cable-car comme Chinatown, Financial Center et Fisherman's Wahrf.
A SF, tu peux essayer de cumuler sur 1 journée ce qui est + pratique en voiture et le reste ensuite avec le cable-car comme Chinatown, Financial Center et Fisherman's Wahrf.
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
C'est un emploi du temps très chargé je trouve
QUand on voyage on se détend un peu et on va la seulement quand on a envie
Et quand on visite un tel lieu, on ne sait pas quel temps qu'on va prendre
Los ANgeles et San Diogo sont des villes immenses, d'entrer cette ville et la sortir il faut du temps !
Il faut comboen de temps pour sortir de PAris ?
mois aout c'est une période de vacance donc plus de tourisme et plus de stress plus de galère
je ne dis pas pour vous ennuyer mais seulement il faut etre raisonnable
Pour serrer le budget comme vous dites mais quand je vois ton emploi du temps, ca fait bcp d'argent tout ca !
meme si le dollar est faible par rapport à l'Euro puis vous ne connaissez pas USA
je vous conseille d'alléger un peu l'emploi du temps et prenez votre temps !!!!
vous netes pas des familles d'affaires alors koool !!!!!
je dis ca en connaissant de cause
Bonjour,
Quelques remarques en vrac...
Dès le début il y a un os : l'A/R entre LA et San Diego est parfaitement superflu ! Certes ça ne fait que 200km mais selon le jour ça peut faire 4h de route ! Donc je suggère par ex J2 : visites telles que J4, puis J3 Universal, puis J5 trajet San Diego. Ensuite route directe S.D vers Williams.
Pour Monument Valley éviter Kayenta est facile en allant dodo à Mexican Hat, ce qui permet en passant en fin d'apres midi de voir MV au soleil couchant !!
Pour Grand Canyon : suis très dubitatif qu'ils acceptent les enfants seuls... Pourquoi pas faire le survol en avion au lieu hélico... bien moins cher et aussi efficace !
Pour le trajet San José-SFO : perso je garderais la voiture ! car meilleure autonomie pour Sausalito, Twin Peaks et autres Treasure Island !! les économies de logement.... paieront l'essence !!
Pour la voiture prenez vous une berline "full size" bien plus confortable que le SUV moyen et surtout bien moins chere...
Pour les restos : à proximité des motels il y a presque toujours un resto ouvert tard, voire même 24/24 du genre de Denny's !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
bonjour Vanessa!
génial cette idée d'emmener des enfants dans l'ouest américain, je pense qu'il n'oublieront jamais ce périple, c'est tellement beau! le "geo" de décembre fait justement sa une sur "les parcs de l'ouest des etats unis en famille", avec plein de conseils remplis de bon sens, si ça peut t'aider dans l'organisation, il est peut-être consultable en ligne (ça ne m'ennuie pas de t'envoyer les photocopies de l'article, ou de les scanner)
sinon, peut-être revoir effectivement les trajets à la baisse pour plus profiter des moments magiques... peut-être que vous changerez d'avis sur place, passerez plus de temps ici et moins ailleurs...resterez vous baigner un peu au lake powell (il va faire TRES chaud)..prendrez le train de williams au grand canyon...
pour ma part, Las vegas c'est fabuleux et bluffant la nuit (le soleil se couche tôt en été aux states), en tout cas en soirée pour les enfants, histoire de se promener un peu en double bus ou à pied, de rentrer dans les casino pour jouer aux bandits manchots et de prendre la tour eiffel en photo, et pourquoi pas un spectacle, mais le jour c'est...sordide, enfin à mon avis. du coup peut-être qu'en arrivant en fin d'après-midi pour repartir le lendemain, ça suffit, et ça vous fait perdre moins de temps?
bon, tout ça c'est tellement "personnel"! après tout, l'essentiel c'est que vous ayiez votre avion de retour, entre les 2...amusez-vous! (attention aux distances pièges, nous autres européens n'avons pas l'habitude de ces échelles démesurées..ceci dit, la route et les voitures sont très agréables, j'ai trouvé)
sinon les restos ne sont pas chers et ferment tôt, c'est complètement vrai (passé 20h gare à la disette, sauf dans des coins à touristes), et nos motels tournaient à 50 dollars la nuit en moyenne sur juillet-aout 2007 (mais nous étions dans des coins vraiment paumés), en revanche l'essence avait pris du grade...et est monté jusqu'à 3, 49$ le gallon. (ça dépend des états)
bonnes fêtes de fin d'année, et surtout, bonne préparation de voyage! isabelle
génial cette idée d'emmener des enfants dans l'ouest américain, je pense qu'il n'oublieront jamais ce périple, c'est tellement beau! le "geo" de décembre fait justement sa une sur "les parcs de l'ouest des etats unis en famille", avec plein de conseils remplis de bon sens, si ça peut t'aider dans l'organisation, il est peut-être consultable en ligne (ça ne m'ennuie pas de t'envoyer les photocopies de l'article, ou de les scanner)
sinon, peut-être revoir effectivement les trajets à la baisse pour plus profiter des moments magiques... peut-être que vous changerez d'avis sur place, passerez plus de temps ici et moins ailleurs...resterez vous baigner un peu au lake powell (il va faire TRES chaud)..prendrez le train de williams au grand canyon...
pour ma part, Las vegas c'est fabuleux et bluffant la nuit (le soleil se couche tôt en été aux states), en tout cas en soirée pour les enfants, histoire de se promener un peu en double bus ou à pied, de rentrer dans les casino pour jouer aux bandits manchots et de prendre la tour eiffel en photo, et pourquoi pas un spectacle, mais le jour c'est...sordide, enfin à mon avis. du coup peut-être qu'en arrivant en fin d'après-midi pour repartir le lendemain, ça suffit, et ça vous fait perdre moins de temps?
bon, tout ça c'est tellement "personnel"! après tout, l'essentiel c'est que vous ayiez votre avion de retour, entre les 2...amusez-vous! (attention aux distances pièges, nous autres européens n'avons pas l'habitude de ces échelles démesurées..ceci dit, la route et les voitures sont très agréables, j'ai trouvé)
sinon les restos ne sont pas chers et ferment tôt, c'est complètement vrai (passé 20h gare à la disette, sauf dans des coins à touristes), et nos motels tournaient à 50 dollars la nuit en moyenne sur juillet-aout 2007 (mais nous étions dans des coins vraiment paumés), en revanche l'essence avait pris du grade...et est monté jusqu'à 3, 49$ le gallon. (ça dépend des états)
bonnes fêtes de fin d'année, et surtout, bonne préparation de voyage! isabelle
Salut Vanessa,
J'ai fait ce voyage cet été avec mes enfants de 11 et 15 ans. Parti de San Francisco (3 nuits ) avec location de vélo dans la baie, passage sur le golden gate et retour par ferry, Yosémite (2 nuits) extraordinaire avec rando bodie, Vallée de la mort(1 nuit) très très chaud Las Vegas(1 nuit) ils ont adoré pas moi, bryce canyon1 nuit) avec rando chaud mais beau, lac powell (1 nuit) avec baignade grand canyon (2 nuits)survol hélico et on a terminé par LA (3 nuits) en passant par la route 66. Pour les distances super les enfants n'ont pas trouvé ça long. J'avais prévu des piscines dans chaque hotel pour se détendre le soir. Voyage extraordinaire pour moi et les enfants.
J'avais achté 3 guides le routard, le michelin et le lonely, j'ai fait le choix de l'itinéraire avec les enfants et ils en garde un souvenir génial, j'ai quelquefois l'impression d'y être encore, magique.
Bon voyage
familyvaillant
Bonsoir,
on est presque voisin: je suis juste audessus dans le sud du tarn.
Des voyages comme ça sur les U.S.A., nous en faisons tout les ans.
Et Voir beaucoup de choses dans un temps imparti.
Mais avec des enfants attention à leur rythme!!!
Je voyage avec ma fille et par expérience je sais que le démarrage le matin est dur et long....
Ce qui veut dire, que si je prévois un départ à 8H cela ce traduit par : je me lève à 8h et encore....
Donc je calcule mes journées et mes trajet de voiture en fonction: faut s'adapter😉
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So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
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I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
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Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!





