Chaussures en Gore-Tex ou en cuir pour faire de la randonnée?
by GlaceMax
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Il y a tellement d'avis contradictoir pour le Gore tex et le cuir que je ne sais pas quoi choisir...
Je transpire beaucoup des pieds et j'aimerais savoir quelle est la matiere qui serais le plus approprié?
La publicité indique que le Gore tex est très efficace mais certains disent que ça ne l'est pas à long terme..qu'en penssez vous?
Je n'ai jamais essayer le cuir mais je peut te garantir le gor tex qui à déjà fait plus que ses preuves.
Khemri
Gardes le cuir pour faire de la montagne.
S'il s'agit de randonnée comme tu l'écris et si tu transpires des pieds, achètes du goretex avec semelles Vibram et en avant !
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C'est pour quel type de rando ?
Si c'est du très humide tu aurras toujours les pieds mouillés ... tout au moins bien humide ... Les chaussures ont beau être respirantes si tu les mets dans l'eau elle "respirent" pas vraiment ... 😉. Et dans ce cas là ton pied qui transpire il mouille ta chaussure par l'interrieur ... voila, voilà ...
Faut penser aux chaussettes aussi ... Y'a des chaussettes où tu seras plus à l'aise que d'autres ... Eviter le coton ... La laine c'est pas mal ... Fais des essais.
Si les avis divergent c'est parceque c'est propre à chacun ... 😎
a+ Rémi.
Si c'est du très humide tu aurras toujours les pieds mouillés ... tout au moins bien humide ... Les chaussures ont beau être respirantes si tu les mets dans l'eau elle "respirent" pas vraiment ... 😉. Et dans ce cas là ton pied qui transpire il mouille ta chaussure par l'interrieur ... voila, voilà ...
Faut penser aux chaussettes aussi ... Y'a des chaussettes où tu seras plus à l'aise que d'autres ... Eviter le coton ... La laine c'est pas mal ... Fais des essais.
Si les avis divergent c'est parceque c'est propre à chacun ... 😎
a+ Rémi.
http://www.photo-et-rando.com/. just keep going ...
J'ai prévu de faire de la rando en montagne.
Vu le prix des bonnes chaussures, j'aimerais faire le bon choix pour les garder le plus longtemps possible..donc qu'elles puissent s'adapter à toutes situations...
Oui j'ai entendu dire que le gore tex ne respirait pas sous l'eau..en même temps ça parait logique..à moins d'inventer les "goretex branchie"!!🤪
J'ai entendu dire aussi que le gore tex gardait beaucoup plus la chaleur et n'évacuait pas l'humidité des pieds..pourtant à en croire le texte publicitaire c'est un tissu miracle. Moi je préfère me méffier des nouvelles technologies...quelqu'un peut-il me dire si le goretex est fiable où s'il vaut mieux faire confiance au bon vieux cuir?
pour résumé voilà ce que je peux te dire : le goretex c'est un tissu qui laisse bien passer l'air dans les 2 sens, de ce fait il permet d'évacuer rapidement l'humidité interne. Par contre il prend l'eau rapidement mais sèche aussi rapidement. le cuir c'est pas respirant et au contraire bien isolant, il faut qu'il soit immergé longtemps avant d'être imbibé et dans ce cas il est long à sécher il y a un compromis : chaussure cuir avec intérieur goretex, ça allie les avantages des 2 : étanchéité et respirabilité (mais moindre que du tout goretex), inconvénient : c'est plus lourd
le choix dépend de l'utilisation: pour du temps sec et chaud tu peux rester sur du goretex pour du temps humide et/ou très froid, cuir ou cuir intérieur goretex
perso je trouve que les chaussures cuir intérieur goretex sont les plus confortables pour des randos longues
le choix dépend de l'utilisation: pour du temps sec et chaud tu peux rester sur du goretex pour du temps humide et/ou très froid, cuir ou cuir intérieur goretex
perso je trouve que les chaussures cuir intérieur goretex sont les plus confortables pour des randos longues
Bub
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le "goretex", comme ses semblables, a 2 limites : il n'évacue les liquides (qq soit leur origine) qu' à petite dose ... j'ai déjà testé (sur remplissage extérieur : pluie, passage dans l'eau ...) la flotte séjourne à plaisir et le pied macère .... sur transpiration abondante, pareil ... - 2° limite, après un usage assez long, la "membrane" de goretex se fend, et l'étanchéité n'est plus assurée .... DONC, prendre avec précaution : pas mal d'avis positifs portent sur du matos neuf, et pas forcément utilisé dans des conditions extrêmes ...
Celà dit, le cuir : actuellement, le tanage des cuirs n'est plus à la hauteur des souvenirs des anciens ... donc, ce n'est pas la solution miracle non plus ...
Pour ma part, je mise sur un renouvellement plus fréquent du matos (les chaussures de 10 ans et plus, c'est fini, ou presque !!!) - chaussures "modernes", donc "faux cuir - textile - GORETEX", pas trop chères ... et je mise aussi (la transpiration, je connais aussi !!!) sur des chaussettes "techniques" (fibres creuses + traitement anti-odeur)
Bonnes randos ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Ok donc toi c'est gore tex à remplacé plus souvent..mis a part qu'il est long à secher mon choix pencherait plutot vers le cuir..je suis alé dans un magasin de montagne et le vendeur m'a affirmé(je n'ai pas forcément confiance dans les vendeurs mais bon...) que contre la transpiration il était plus éfficace(moins de chaleur donc moins de transpiration et évacu mieux l'humiditée)..j'ai vu des chaussures Galibier qui ont apparament une très bonne réputation avec un cuir très très correct. Par contre c'est lourd, pas confortable au début et c'est cher (300euro) donc je me suis rabatut sur un modèle en dessous avec du très bon cuir sans les inconvéniants des Galibier mais elles font quand même 230euros..je crois que je vais acheter celle-ci.. Et comme tu l'as dis le choix des chaussette à l'air important..
Bonjour,
Personellement je pense que le Gore-Tex n'est qu'un produit marketing destiné à faire couler un peu plus de pétrole. Eh oui le Gore-tex est un pur produit pétrochimique. De plus je dirai qu'au même titre que d'aucun constatera l'inevitable supériorité de la laine naturelle sur la laine polaire (également faite a base exclusive de pétrole), vous constaterez à l'utilisation, l'irrévocable supériorité du cuir sur le Gore tex. Par contre et ceci est bien expliqué plus haut c'est beacoup, mais alors beaucoup plus cher car il faut de la main d'oeuvre pour avoir du bon cuir, et la aussi comme c'est expliqué plus haut changer souvent de Gore-tex semble une bonne alternative.
Au passage il faut bien dire aussi que le cuir s'entretien (graissage, cirage ...etc...), ce qui peut paraitre pénible à la longue, mais a chaque cirage on récupère des chaussure neuve, voire mieux que neuve car le cuir s'améliore au fil du temps, il prends la forme du pieds, il s'assouplit. C'est pourquoi il vaut mieux prendre une très bonne semelle, du moins une semelle à la durée de vie supérieure au cuir.
bye
Personellement je pense que le Gore-Tex n'est qu'un produit marketing destiné à faire couler un peu plus de pétrole. Eh oui le Gore-tex est un pur produit pétrochimique. De plus je dirai qu'au même titre que d'aucun constatera l'inevitable supériorité de la laine naturelle sur la laine polaire (également faite a base exclusive de pétrole), vous constaterez à l'utilisation, l'irrévocable supériorité du cuir sur le Gore tex. Par contre et ceci est bien expliqué plus haut c'est beacoup, mais alors beaucoup plus cher car il faut de la main d'oeuvre pour avoir du bon cuir, et la aussi comme c'est expliqué plus haut changer souvent de Gore-tex semble une bonne alternative.
Au passage il faut bien dire aussi que le cuir s'entretien (graissage, cirage ...etc...), ce qui peut paraitre pénible à la longue, mais a chaque cirage on récupère des chaussure neuve, voire mieux que neuve car le cuir s'améliore au fil du temps, il prends la forme du pieds, il s'assouplit. C'est pourquoi il vaut mieux prendre une très bonne semelle, du moins une semelle à la durée de vie supérieure au cuir.
bye
Bonjour,
Je vous conseille les chaussures proposant la technologie Outdry. En effet, j'ai exactement le même problème que vous (suant énormément des pieds) et j'ai testé cette technologie il y a plus de 2 ans maintenant sur des modèles de la Marque Lafuma et Trezeta et Gronell. Outdry est un procédé qui permet la lamination de la membrane directement sur la tige de la chaussure et ceci évitant toute pénétration d'eau à l'intérieur de celle-ci. Elle sèche donc très vite, prend très peu de poids (dans l'eau) et respire très bien. Elle permet en effet à l'air chaud se trouvant dans la chaussure de s'échapper, il n'y a pas d'eau entre la membrane et la chaussure (cf Goretex chaussures). J'ai vraiement hésité avant d'acheter ces chaussures mais je peux vous dire que je ne regrette vraiment pas cet achat. Et j'en redemande. Merci Outdry dont je ne sais même pas d'où provient la marque...
Gerard
Je vous conseille les chaussures proposant la technologie Outdry. En effet, j'ai exactement le même problème que vous (suant énormément des pieds) et j'ai testé cette technologie il y a plus de 2 ans maintenant sur des modèles de la Marque Lafuma et Trezeta et Gronell. Outdry est un procédé qui permet la lamination de la membrane directement sur la tige de la chaussure et ceci évitant toute pénétration d'eau à l'intérieur de celle-ci. Elle sèche donc très vite, prend très peu de poids (dans l'eau) et respire très bien. Elle permet en effet à l'air chaud se trouvant dans la chaussure de s'échapper, il n'y a pas d'eau entre la membrane et la chaussure (cf Goretex chaussures). J'ai vraiement hésité avant d'acheter ces chaussures mais je peux vous dire que je ne regrette vraiment pas cet achat. Et j'en redemande. Merci Outdry dont je ne sais même pas d'où provient la marque...
Gerard
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Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra