1 ce circuit est-il faisable ou bien trop long? 2 quelles sont les durees approximatives des trajets marrakech-ouarzazate / ouarzazate-zagora / zagora-merzouga / merzouga ouarzazate par vallee du dades 3 si, comme je le pense nous devons nous contenter de l'axe marrakech / Mahmid, quelles visites nous conseillez vous?...ouf !!! Merci Pascal
Trajets Marrakech-Ouarzazate-Zagora-Erfoud...
by Johndoex3x
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
nous partons au maroc en octobre et pataugeons dans la préparation!!!
nous partions sur l'idee de faire en 8 jours marrakech ouarzazate zagora merzouga et retour par vallee du dades...oups??
1 ce circuit est-il faisable ou bien trop long? 2 quelles sont les durees approximatives des trajets marrakech-ouarzazate / ouarzazate-zagora / zagora-merzouga / merzouga ouarzazate par vallee du dades 3 si, comme je le pense nous devons nous contenter de l'axe marrakech / Mahmid, quelles visites nous conseillez vous?...ouf !!! Merci Pascal
1 ce circuit est-il faisable ou bien trop long? 2 quelles sont les durees approximatives des trajets marrakech-ouarzazate / ouarzazate-zagora / zagora-merzouga / merzouga ouarzazate par vallee du dades 3 si, comme je le pense nous devons nous contenter de l'axe marrakech / Mahmid, quelles visites nous conseillez vous?...ouf !!! Merci Pascal
bonjour,
Merci pour ta reponse mais j'ai pris le temps de regarder le forum... j'y ai meme passe beaucoup de temps !!!
en fait il y a tellement de réponses que cela en devient confus c'est pourquoi nous sommes perdus !!!!
pascal
Bonjour,
si tu ne trouves pas, pourtant trajets abordés souvent içi, je te reponds :
ton circuit est tout à fait faisable en 8 jours,
Marrakech ouarzazate : 1 jour sans probleme meme avec un crochet par Ait Benhaddou
ouarzazate Zagora : 1 jour tres tres facilement, tu peux même descendre jusqu'à Anagam pour faire la vallée du Dra en entier, si tu as un 4 x4 tu peux faire la vallée par la piste (à l'est de la vallée) mais c'est plus long
Zagora Merzouga : idem, personellement je n'ai pas aimé la route passant par Nekob et Tazzarine (désert de cailloux un peu monotone) mais elle elle un peu plus courte et cela te permet de faire le
retour sur Ouarzazate par la vallée de Daddes, tu peux prévoir 2 jours si tu veux faire les gorges du Todra et les gorges du Daddes
bon voyage à ta disposition si tu as besoin d'autres renseignements Morgane
bon voyage à ta disposition si tu as besoin d'autres renseignements Morgane
Bonjour, vous passeriez à côté de bien des choses en privilégiant l'axe de la vallée du draa seulement (Ouarzazate-Mahmid). Pas la peine de descendre si loin si vous ne faites pas une escapade de 3 jours dans les dunes en évitant les pièges à con du genre : bivouac à touristes où vous êtes regroupés. Optez plutôt (pour la variété des contrastes et la richesse des paysages) pour : au départ de marrakech : Telouet, ait benhadou après le col du tizin'tichka, ouarzazate (pas la peine d'y rester longtemps, visitez la kasbah et quittez la ville), les gorges du dades et celles du todra, merzouga (fuyez erfoud), rissani, n'kob et offrez-vous une portion de la vallée du dadès avant de boucler la boucle en remontant par ourzazate. En effet, cet axe regroupe une grande partie des sites à ne manquer sous aucun prétexte, présente bien plus d'interêt que la vallée du drâa à elle seule. Et en plus vous verrez quand même les dunes. En 8 jours c'est suffisant mais vous passerez quand même du temps sur les routes (le guide michelin aborde de façon précise le temps de conduite entre ces étapes) attention au rapport km/temps de conduite, qui dépend beaucoup de la configuration des routes. Optez pour les hébergements hors des grandes agglomérations (dans les gorges par exemple pour profiter de l'ambiance des lieux) si vous goupillez bien votre circuit vous pourrez même vous accorder 1 ou 2 jrs à marrakech à votre retour. j'ai fait 2 fois ce circuit, et un autre l'an passé bcp moins touristique et connu mais tout aussi impressionnant (routes bcp moins faciles): marrakech-col du tizin'test-taroudant-tizourgan-oumesnat-tafraout (et les gorges d'ait-mensour) -remontée par la vallée des almens-taroudant-marrakech : paysages différents mais somptueux, et adresses conviviales, inoubliables et pas chères dans des sites magnifiques. l'idéal est de pouvoir faire les deux en deux fois, vous en reviendrez émerveillés et plus riches d'expériences.
woooh
merci yarglaw !!!
le seul probleme c que maintenant fo attendre octobre !!!!! ca va etre dur surtout avec le temps magnifique que nous avons en france en ce moment !!!!
;o)))
j'y serai entre le 11 et le 20 octobre, mais je fais a peu près le meme circuit une troisième fois dans le sens inverse (mais je ne vais pas jusqu'à zagora), pour le redécouvrir et le faire découvrir aux membres de ma famille, qui sait, nos routes se croiseront peut être. Pensez à me donner vos impressions .
nous on part la semaine suivante : le 25
pour le retour ???, j'ai pas encore le billet retour...je vais essayer de grapiller un jour de plus sur place ..ca ferait 10 ce qui serait parfait
Pascal
bonjour,
avez-vous établi votre itinéraire? Nous partons à deux le 26 octobre et avons décidé sur un coup de tête il y a deux jours. On a rien préparé, mais on pense qu'on va passer 2 jours à Marrakech, louer une voiture et on pensait aller jusqu'à Mhamid ou on devrait bien trouver qq pour nous emmener 3 jours dans le désert avant de revenir sur Marrakech.
avez-vous établi votre itinéraire? Nous partons à deux le 26 octobre et avons décidé sur un coup de tête il y a deux jours. On a rien préparé, mais on pense qu'on va passer 2 jours à Marrakech, louer une voiture et on pensait aller jusqu'à Mhamid ou on devrait bien trouver qq pour nous emmener 3 jours dans le désert avant de revenir sur Marrakech.
Thien An
L'avenir il ne faut pas le prévoir, mais le permettre
trés trés bonne idée en effet 8 jours c'est abordable pour faire le trajet ouarzazat merzouga jusqu'a tinghir(gorges du dades & gorges du todgha) lencez vous !! et tt ce que j'ai a vous dire c'est bon voyage et bonne route et surtt NE VOUS DéCOURAGEZ PAAAAS😉
touareg...J'ai toujours aimé le désert. On s'assoit sur une dune de sable. On ne voit rien. On n'entend rien. Et cependant quelque chose rayonne en silence.
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2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
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👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help






