Que visiter entre Casablanca et Marrakech?
by Mariespagne
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour , je pense abréger mon séjour de trois jours à CASA et de faire une halte en chemin pour rejoindre Marrachek. Halte qui vaudrait la peine pour y passer une nuit.
Qui pourrait me renseigner? où alors est ce mieux de rester quand même à CASA? Merci
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Entre Casa et Marra, il y a 3 villes: Berrchid, Settat et Bengrir. Aucune des trois ne justifie une halte. Par contre, si tu fais le détour par la côte, tu auras le choix en Azémour, El Jadida, ou Safi.
Si tu crois que j'ai en tête tout l'historique des messages de chaque membre...
Azzemour alors!
Bonjour,
Sur la route , rien de follichon , ni de surtout très pratique en transport public.
pourquoi ne pas rajouter un aller retour Rabat, par le train il y en a pour 1 heure et il y a des liaisons fréquentes ! Ou une nuit ou 2, c'est aussi pratique de faire Rabat Marrakech par le train que Casa Marrakech.
Sur la route , rien de follichon , ni de surtout très pratique en transport public.
pourquoi ne pas rajouter un aller retour Rabat, par le train il y en a pour 1 heure et il y a des liaisons fréquentes ! Ou une nuit ou 2, c'est aussi pratique de faire Rabat Marrakech par le train que Casa Marrakech.
Entre Casa et Marra, il y a 3 villes: Berrchid, Settat et Bengrir. Aucune des trois ne justifie une halte. Par contre, si tu fais le détour par la côte, tu auras le choix en Azémour, El Jadida, ou Safi.
c est la meme ??Benguerir
c est la meme ??Benguerir
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Malheureusement oui!
Le même bled paumé qui abrite la plus grande caserne militaire du pays (et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc)
les parents dune amie (et voisine en suisse) sont la je n ai pas trouve le maroc dans cette ville
sauf l acceuil bien sur 😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Malheureusement oui!
Le même bled paumé qui abrite la plus grande caserne militaire du pays (et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc)
et les mecs dans les miradors sur le bord de la route doivent bien se fare c, , , , , vu les signes qu ils font quand on passent a moins qu ils demandent 1 dirams😉 pas bien vu 🙁
et les mecs dans les miradors sur le bord de la route doivent bien se fare c, , , , , vu les signes qu ils font quand on passent a moins qu ils demandent 1 dirams😉 pas bien vu 🙁
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Ce n'était pas un reproche, désolé pour le ton qu'a pu prendre le message.
C'est ce que j'ai trouvé de moins cher de dispo, faut pô s'étonner de la qualité après🙂
AU Départ , je prenais le train casa marrachek mais si je m'arrête, je prendrai le bus OU TAXi collectif.
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
MERCI pour l'info mais pour Eldjdida, je le fais avant. sAfi, je n'aurai pas l'occasion à cause des transports qui ne me conviennent pas.
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Oui, mais le problème c'est que RABAT j'y ai déjà passé trois jours et je crois y avoir tout visité d'important. Merci quand même et bon séjour aussi à toi.
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Essaie alors de visiter un marché hebdomadaire dans la péréphérie de Casa, renseigne-toi, il y en a un chaque jour de la semaine dans des endroits différents.
Ca vaut la peine d'y aller mais attention aux pique-pot-quête.
Dans la série susceptibilité :
(et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc), sais-tu qu'un sous of marocain doit avoir le bac et qu'à benguirir, il y a l'école des officiers sup de l'armée marocaine donc bac + 4 ou 5 donc ce genre de remarque gratuite m'énerve, tant que tu y es il boivent aussi (musulmans), l'image de l'adjudant en france.
Par raport au reste de la population, il y a pas photo.....au niveau QI.
J'en déduit que tu n'aimes pas les militaires et moi les cons, c'est plus difficile à discerner car ils ne se déguisent pas tous...sans rancune.
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
didier
C'est exactement ce que j'affirmais, il faut avoir un Q.I élevé pour devenir militaire, c'est un métier qui n'est pas donné à tout le monde.
N'y vois aucune touche d'ironie, j'adore la guerre... Sans elle, on se sentirait trop serrés sur Terre.
C'est exactement ce que j'affirmais, il faut avoir un Q.I élevé pour devenir militaire, c'est un métier qui n'est pas donné à tout le monde.
N'y vois aucune touche d'ironie, j'adore la guerre... Sans elle, on se sentirait trop serrés sur Terre.
😉
😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Dans la série susceptibilité :
(et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc), sais-tu qu'un sous of marocain doit avoir le bac et qu'à benguirir, il y a l'école des officiers sup de l'armée marocaine donc bac + 4 ou 5 donc ce genre de remarque gratuite m'énerve, tant que tu y es il boivent aussi (musulmans), l'image de l'adjudant en france.
Par raport au reste de la population, il y a pas photo.....au niveau QI.
J'en déduit que tu n'aimes pas les militaires et moi les cons, c'est plus difficile à discerner car ils ne se déguisent pas tous...sans rancune.
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
ne crois tu pas que cela est de trop sur le forum??😠
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
ne crois tu pas que cela est de trop sur le forum??😠
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
j aime bien dans ton profil ta passion du voyage 😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
" il y a l'école des officiers sup de l'armée marocaine donc bac + 4 ou 5 donc ce genre de remarque gratuite m'énerve, tant que tu y es il boivent aussi (musulmans), l'image de l'adjudant en france. "
Oui, oui, vive les armées, de tous pays, sous-officiers et officiers compris, qui, s'ils ne boivent pas(c'est à vérifier), tuent, mutilent, volent, violent, brûlent, pillent.
Oui, oui, vive les armées, de tous pays, sous-officiers et officiers compris, qui, s'ils ne boivent pas(c'est à vérifier), tuent, mutilent, volent, violent, brûlent, pillent.
C'est à dire ?
On est pas obligé de dire ce l'on a fait. Les voyages c'est une question de temps et d'argent.
Le forum est trés bien pour ceux qui aiment voyager à leur façon. Je répond sur le maroc car je pense pouvoir aider.
J'attend ma retraite pour me faire plaisir.
Par contre des réflexions gratuites et sans fondement avec des idées préconçues m'énervent parfois.
J'ai travaillé 2 ans pour l'armée marocaine, des cons il y en a partout mais par rapport à la population, les militaires marocains sont au dessus de la moyenne (question QI). Donc pour moi c'était déplacé comme remarque.
Ps :si tu fais allusion à djibouti, cela me permet il est vrai d'en profiter car j'en profite pour voir des pays et des cultures plus en profondeur qu'un touriste.
didier
C'est ton opinion, quelqu'un a dis "la guerre est une chose trop importante pour qu'on la confit au militaire". Derrière sa télé, les choses sont simples à analyser.
Pour faire ça tuent, mutilent, volent, violent, brûlent, pillent, il n'y a pas besoin de se déguiser.
Certains font ça (voir photo)
didier
Dans la série susceptibilité :
(et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc), sais-tu qu'un sous of marocain doit avoir le bac et qu'à benguirir, il y a l'école des officiers sup de l'armée marocaine donc bac + 4 ou 5 donc ce genre de remarque gratuite m'énerve, tant que tu y es il boivent aussi (musulmans), l'image de l'adjudant en france.
Par raport au reste de la population, il y a pas photo.....au niveau QI.
J'en déduit que tu n'aimes pas les militaires et moi les cons, c'est plus difficile à discerner car ils ne se déguisent pas tous...sans rancune.
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
alors pour etre plus clair qui vises tu dans cette phrase ?
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
alors pour etre plus clair qui vises tu dans cette phrase ?
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Je vise ceux qui écrivent ça : (et par conséquent la plus grande concentration de Cul-I élevé du Maroc)
didier
Même si tu n'as pas la télé, ta remarque manque de recul et laisse supposer que tu regardes trop de film ou d'actualités.
Forcément ce sont les militaires qui font la guerre mais qui les décide ?
Le président ou roi ou ..... qui la décide n'ai pas forcément militaire pour couper court à ta prochaine remarque.
didier
Le plus important c'était ça
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
Pour répondre au sujet: quitte à perdre du temps et faire une ballade. Faire casanblanca, khouribga, beni-mellal, cascade d'ouzoud ou lac ben el ouidane, le lendemain marrakech. Vous n'y avez pas pensé (les autres).
didier
" Même si tu n'as pas la télé, ta remarque manque de recul et laisse supposer que tu regardes trop de film ou d'actualités. "
Au risque de me répéter: je n'ai pas la télé. Néanmoins, je ne savais pas qu'il fallait regarder des films ou des actualités pour savoir que la guerre et ses militaires tuent, pillent, violent, volent, mutilent, torturent des civils.
" pour couper court à ta prochaine remarque. "
Pour cette fois-ci, c'est raté. Mais bonne chance pour la suite...😉
Au risque de me répéter: je n'ai pas la télé. Néanmoins, je ne savais pas qu'il fallait regarder des films ou des actualités pour savoir que la guerre et ses militaires tuent, pillent, violent, volent, mutilent, torturent des civils.
" pour couper court à ta prochaine remarque. "
Pour cette fois-ci, c'est raté. Mais bonne chance pour la suite...😉
attention n emploies pas de maux viet ce sont des maux dit (🙁vais je me faire tirer dessus?????
il ne fait pas trop lui en vouloir a ce jeiune chien qui te jappe au nais ¨!!😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
t es un drole d oiseaux toi 😉allez redevenont serieux service -service jugulaire .............
vous pouvez repeter la question????😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Ce qui m'étonne dans ce genre de discussion que je termine par ce message c'est le peu d'ouverture d'esprit que certains ont, à 69 ans c'est bizarre que l'on puisse avoir des préjugers comme ça sur les gens en les catalogants.
Les commerçants sont tous des voleurs, les militaires des cons, les politiques des menteurs, etc. En plus vous l'étaler en public, je me demande se que vous avez fait dans votre vie pour vous permettre de juger.
Bonne nuit, notre discussion n'interresse surement personne.
FIN
didier
juste te renvoyer le nom d oiseau que VOUS aimer donner a certains moi je ne TE souhaite pas bonne nuit j en est rien a faire 😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
je m'adresse en fait à BOURIANE et TAFAKARA; quand vous aurez fini de vous "eng.." sur le forum, vous pourrez peut-être me dire des choses plus intéressantes sur les régions que je voudrais visiter et ce qu'ils y a à voir dans les villes proposées dernièrement soit KHOURIGA, BENI MELLAL, OUIDANE (ou ouigane?) .... OUZOUD je sais "les cascades" et n'oubliez pas les gars que je suis en bus.
Pour la petite histoire, hier je suis allée à Ilmil et ai été bien "emmerdée" avec les moyens locaux: pour aller, bus jusque teherout (un nom qui ressemble à ça); ensuite, discussion sans en finir pour avec un taxi collectif jusqu'à ASNI puis là rebelotte puis avoir un minibus jusque Ilmil..... Là bas, acculé par les faux guides; plaque pour la cascade mise dans le sens inverse donc 3 KM de montée pour rien (aurait mieux fait de prendre le faux guide) puis pour le retour, j'ai bien cru devoir revenir à pied.... Plus de taxi collectif (disent-ils) donc taxi privé 300 dhrs. Comme je suis "têtue", j'ai attendu et ai eu un taxi collectif pour Marrachek direct mais à 6 + Chauffeur; étant devant au milieu, je vous raconte pas ma jambe gauche était amie (ou ennemie) avec le changement de vitesse; de plus, vitesse rapide assurée et mort vue de près. Moi, je suis aventurière mais mon compagnon (qui ne voulait déjà pas faire partie de l'aventure), je vous dis pas... Il a vieilli de dix ans en un jour. Voilà, plus agréable de parler de cela que de cons et de militaires. 😉
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
" je m'adresse en fait à BOURIANE et TAFAKARA; quand vous aurez fini de vous "eng.." sur le forum "
C'est juste quelques joutes verbales, mais bon, que veux-tu, parfois on se sent obligé de répondre à certaines remarques...
" KHOURIGA, BENI MELLAL, OUIDANE " Désolée de ne pouvoir t'aider, je ne connais pas du tout ce coin du Maroc.
Merci pour le récit désopilant de tes aventures marocaines...Ah, ces taxis!😉
C'est juste quelques joutes verbales, mais bon, que veux-tu, parfois on se sent obligé de répondre à certaines remarques...
" KHOURIGA, BENI MELLAL, OUIDANE " Désolée de ne pouvoir t'aider, je ne connais pas du tout ce coin du Maroc.
Merci pour le récit désopilant de tes aventures marocaines...Ah, ces taxis!😉
En bus Casablanca, beni-mellal doit exister.
Beni-mellal, les cascades d'ouzoud ou ben el ouidane en taxi.
Les cascades Marrakech en taxi.
Ce qu'il y a à visiter, les cascades.
Pour le lac, juste la beauté du site sinon rien.
Comme beaucoup d'endroit au maroc, les paysages .
Cela ne peut pas être pire que CASA à Marrakech.
Désolé pour le reste mon but était de te répondre en ne faisant qu'une petite remarque sur .....
didier
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!








