Prix du bateau pour Tanger au départ de Sète ou Barcelone?
by Vetea13600
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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quel est le plus interessant pour aller a tanger en bateau au niveau prix? partir de sete ou de barcelone?y a t il beaucoup de difference.merci d avance pour les infos.
inch allah
voyager c est comme une drogue
on ne peut plus s en passer!!
plus c'est long, plus c'est cher et vice versa
😏
La majorité s'accorde pour dire que les services sont meilleurs sur les bateaux de la compagnie italienne (ligne Barcelone-Tanger)
Bonjour
Le service n´est peut etre pas mieux sur le bateau Barcelone-Tanger mais le prix et nettement mieux (presque de moitie) malgré les 300 km en plus. Et en plus ce bateau met 24 heures, celui de sete met 36 heures.
Le service n´est peut etre pas mieux sur le bateau Barcelone-Tanger mais le prix et nettement mieux (presque de moitie) malgré les 300 km en plus. Et en plus ce bateau met 24 heures, celui de sete met 36 heures.
bonsoir,
je ne connais pas la compagnie Italienne qui fait Barcelone-Tanger, je ne peux donc rien en dire. Par contre j'ai souvent fait de bon commentaires sur ce forum concernant la traversée sur le Biladi. Depuis j'en suis revenu car il est presque impossible de prendre un verre tranquillement dans le grand salon sans avoir à supporter la musique ( trés forte) que nous impose la compagnie. Les deux nuits sont soumises au même régime , à savoir que si la cabine n'est pas trés éloignée de ce même lieu on ne peut espérer dormir avant minuit , moment où ils stoppent enfin leur... "musique "! A noter que lorsque je dis éloigné , c'est vraiment trés loin ( plus de 2 étages si possible). Et je ne parle pas des gamins qui cavalent dans les couloirs pendant que les parents sont au "spectacle".
Ceci dit cela doit dépendre de la période de départ, je suis toujours parti au moment des vacances de printemps.
Par contre ces problèmes n'existent pas sur la CTN qui ralie Tunis ...
De toutes manières le tarif de la compagnie Italienne est moins élevée que celui de la Comarit , à vérifier si l'on peut effectuer les démarches de polices sur leur bateau , ce qui fait gagner du temps à Tanger avec le Biladi ( mais il faut aussi compter deux bonnes heures perdues avec la Comarit qui n'arrive toujours pas à organiser correctement ces formalitées sur son bateau !!! )
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
j'ai un devis sous les yeux pour Barcelone Tanger de 140 euros pour un passager en chambre 4 lits
et pour le retour de 90 euros seulement et j'etais seul dans la cabine ! je n'ai fait que le retour je suis parti de Sete à l'aller et ça ma coute 400 € avec une moto
tu te fais faire un devis sur internet ! tu trouves facilement les sites
a l'aller 'sete tanger) le biladi, une ruine qui flotte (jusqu'à quand) une cantine qui conserve encore une frime au restaurant, au retour (Tanger Barcelon) le grandi Navi veloci, un luxe frime pour les halls, mais une nourriture de porcherie !, je ne sais pas pourquoi je n'ai pas eu droit au restaurant avec serviette, mais avec le prix que j'ai payé je ne pouvais avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre !
j'ai un billet d'avion Lyon-Casa aller et retour que j'ai payé 80 euros, les bateaux ont du souci a se faire... les malins envoient la famille par avion et seul le chauffeur monte sur le bateau avec la voiture... ils pourront transformer leur ferry en cargo pour chauffeurs...
tu te fais faire un devis sur internet ! tu trouves facilement les sites
a l'aller 'sete tanger) le biladi, une ruine qui flotte (jusqu'à quand) une cantine qui conserve encore une frime au restaurant, au retour (Tanger Barcelon) le grandi Navi veloci, un luxe frime pour les halls, mais une nourriture de porcherie !, je ne sais pas pourquoi je n'ai pas eu droit au restaurant avec serviette, mais avec le prix que j'ai payé je ne pouvais avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre !
j'ai un billet d'avion Lyon-Casa aller et retour que j'ai payé 80 euros, les bateaux ont du souci a se faire... les malins envoient la famille par avion et seul le chauffeur monte sur le bateau avec la voiture... ils pourront transformer leur ferry en cargo pour chauffeurs...
merci pour l info sinon le bateau a barcelone tu le prends a quel niveau sur le port ....
inch allah
voyager c est comme une drogue
on ne peut plus s en passer!!
Salut
Je confirme tout et surtout la question de la musique tres forte et insuportable meme les marocains, car musique marocaine. Pour les europeens c pire car moins habitués á ces notes. j´ai parlé 2 fois avec le commandant de bord á ce sujet et meme avec les musitciens qui changent souvent.
Je confirme tout et surtout la question de la musique tres forte et insuportable meme les marocains, car musique marocaine. Pour les europeens c pire car moins habitués á ces notes. j´ai parlé 2 fois avec le commandant de bord á ce sujet et meme avec les musitciens qui changent souvent.
bonjour,
oui, je confirme aussi pour la musique trop forte, sur le biladi,
de plus, depuis 2 ans, avec une moto, on paye la meme chose qu'avec une auto, vraiment pas normal, et dans le garage, on nous donne l'impression de gener!je n, ai jamais vu cela ailleurs!
j'aimais bien le biladi , mais là! y'en a assez!
je vais , la prochaine fois essayer aussi barcelone /tanger .
cordialement
patrick
marche à l'étoile meme si elle est trop haute
(Alexandra David- Neel)
voyager n'est pas arrivé mais parcourir le chemin(stevenson)
😎Salut Jean qui dort
Aller Jean dort encore 1 fois et ne dérange pas le commandant avec tes questions de musique règle ton sonotone une bonne fois pour toute , au fait de quel bord il est le commandant, et laisse les musiciens se changer si ça leur chante en marocain bien sur et garde le sourire toujours comme dab , bonne journée à toi .😏
Donnez et vous recevrez.Ce que vous faites pour les autres porte en soi sa récompense."Confusius"... Esprit et tu là : La jeunesse n'est pas un esprit jeune mais un état d'esprit. max Garcia
aferry.fr , pour faire son devis pour entre autres autres Barcelone Tanger , mais aussi ttes les autres 😉
bonjour,
devis GNV reçu cette semaine d'Euromer = 600€ Barcelone-Tanger 5 adultes en cabine 4 pers + 5 motos
contact à euromer = Sofia mail = maritime3@euromer.net
des infos sur www.giefa.fr
bonne préparation
contact à euromer = Sofia mail = maritime3@euromer.net
des infos sur www.giefa.fr
bonne préparation
je suis entrain de comparer les 2 traversées car nous allons emprunter la voie maritime pur notre prochain sejour au Maroc , concernant la traversée Sete Tanger on me propose un prix de 975 euros aller/retour pour 2 personnes avec un bébé et un véhicule en cabine confort , la durée de traversée étant de 36 heures sur un bateau qui apparmement est en tres mauvais état ! concernant Barcelone Tanger c'est 800 euros aller/retour en cabine confort mais avec une durée de 24h et un bateau en bien meilleur état ! après tout depend d ou l on pars ! je pense que nous allons opter pour la traversée Barcelone Tanger , il aura certes 4 heures de route en + par rapport a Sète mais nous allons gagner du temps sur la traversée , un petit peu d argent et apparament notre bateau sera plus confortable ! pour regarder 2 solutions ou sur le site de Euromer ou directement sur le site de la compagnie grandi navi veloci ! a +
Ds lles bateaux sete-tanger: meme une personne seule avec moto va payer ds les 350 eur.
Ds lles bateaux sete-tanger: meme une personne seule avec moto va payer ds les 350 eur.
c en prenant aller retours qu'on est gagnant
je suis sortie du biladi hier matin comme dab c une daube ce bateau , musique trop forte les gosses qui cours partout dans le salon et couloir, je me suis pelé dans la chambre et pas d'eau chaude pas de prise pour l'ordi quand ils font leur appel avec les haut parleur sa me faisait sauter en l'air 🤪
j'ai payé 370 euro tanger sete aller simple aller retour ya une promo ; je vis pas loint de marseille je vais pas aller jusqu'a barcelone .
c en prenant aller retours qu'on est gagnant
je suis sortie du biladi hier matin comme dab c une daube ce bateau , musique trop forte les gosses qui cours partout dans le salon et couloir, je me suis pelé dans la chambre et pas d'eau chaude pas de prise pour l'ordi quand ils font leur appel avec les haut parleur sa me faisait sauter en l'air 🤪
j'ai payé 370 euro tanger sete aller simple aller retour ya une promo ; je vis pas loint de marseille je vais pas aller jusqu'a barcelone .
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
le bateau tanger-barc. moins chere que BATEAU MARRAKECH, mais le service est ZERO
j'ai un billet d'avion Lyon-Casa aller et retour que j'ai payé 80 euros, les bateaux ont du souci a se faire... les malins envoient la famille par avion et seul le chauffeur monte sur le bateau avec la voiture... ils pourront transformer leur ferry en cargo pour chauffeurs...
Je ressors ce post juste pour un commentaire :
En général, sur quasiment tous les bateaux, le passage du véhicule inclus deux passagers. Donc le mieux, c'est de passer à deux et d'envoyer tous les autres en avion.
D'ailleurs, pour ceux qui passent par Barcelone, le Barcelone - Casa ou Tanger sur Jet4You est moins cher que le passage sur le bateau. Donc vous déposez les passagers à l'aéroport de Barcelone et vous descendez au bateau et la m^me chose éventuellement au retour. Sauf un point de détail : vos passagers arrivent une journée, voire deux avant vous !
Pour quelqu'un habitant Paris (ou Toulouse ou Lyon, ou une grande ville avec des avions pas cher), le mieux est de descendre effectivement tout seul au bateau à Barcelone, dormir à bord. Débarquer bien reposé et être pile à l'aéroport (Casa, Tanger, Marrakech) quand l'avion arrive. Votre conjoint arrive avec les enfants, tous frais, car ils sont partis depuis trois heures et vous depuis trois jours ! Et la même chose au retour.
Vous avez un test du Barcelone Tanger par Acciona à cet endroit : http://www.pluricosmos.net/bon-a-savoir-f15/bateaux-pour-maroc-avis-sur-le-ferry-barcelone-tanger-par-acciona-tarif-conditions-t763.htm#3477
Je pense que je vais le mettre sur ce forum aussi bientôt
Je ressors ce post juste pour un commentaire :
En général, sur quasiment tous les bateaux, le passage du véhicule inclus deux passagers. Donc le mieux, c'est de passer à deux et d'envoyer tous les autres en avion.
D'ailleurs, pour ceux qui passent par Barcelone, le Barcelone - Casa ou Tanger sur Jet4You est moins cher que le passage sur le bateau. Donc vous déposez les passagers à l'aéroport de Barcelone et vous descendez au bateau et la m^me chose éventuellement au retour. Sauf un point de détail : vos passagers arrivent une journée, voire deux avant vous !
Pour quelqu'un habitant Paris (ou Toulouse ou Lyon, ou une grande ville avec des avions pas cher), le mieux est de descendre effectivement tout seul au bateau à Barcelone, dormir à bord. Débarquer bien reposé et être pile à l'aéroport (Casa, Tanger, Marrakech) quand l'avion arrive. Votre conjoint arrive avec les enfants, tous frais, car ils sont partis depuis trois heures et vous depuis trois jours ! Et la même chose au retour.
Vous avez un test du Barcelone Tanger par Acciona à cet endroit : http://www.pluricosmos.net/bon-a-savoir-f15/bateaux-pour-maroc-avis-sur-le-ferry-barcelone-tanger-par-acciona-tarif-conditions-t763.htm#3477
Je pense que je vais le mettre sur ce forum aussi bientôt
L'intelligence doit vivifier l'action ; sans elle, l'action est vaine. Mais sans l'action, comme l'intelligence est stérile !
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je suis alle 4 fois au maroc avec la compagnie Comanav les conditions de transport ne cessent pas de se dégrader et le prix a pratiquement triplé 240 € en 2004 cabine confort interieur alle et retour avec une moto parcours Sete Tanger devis meme trajet pour septembre 2010 786€, nous allons donc essayer Barcelone Tanger prix 186 € pour les memes prestations mais sans les repas , de toute manière cela ne peut pas etre pire et vue le prix .....
GG
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1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!






