Converting a heavy-duty bus/coach/truck into a motorhome
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GX GX47 Regular ·
Finally, another person who's read everything and isn't asking already-answered questions😉😏😛THANKS

Hey sergio60, The FR1 looks great😎 So for the road, you need to find a guy with a Class D license (or a woman) — try school transport companies or trucking companies, you never know, a little extra cash at the end of the month. Also contact the old-timers in construction trucks, cement mixers, moving companies — they often have the equivalent if they got their license in the military, post an ad somewhere. Yes, for the paint job, it works but it's irreversible. I used window tinting film, but it's not totally opaque, you can still see a bit of the insulation.

The first inspection (gas and electricity) is at Véritas or any other approved center — the DRIRE gives you addresses for your area (sometimes you gotta drive 200 km)

You need to keep the original seats with the original fixtures if you don't want trouble — I reversed the 2 seats in the first row, swapping them left to right, replaced the 2 in the second row with dinette benches, kept the 2 in the third row and boom, dinette and sleeping area. There we go😉 GX47
SE Sergio60 ·
Thanks for your replies, and sorry for asking questions that were already answered in the forum.

Another question: once you've finished the conversion, to take the bus to the DRIRE, you still have the registration under TCP but the bus is already converted—what happens if you get pulled over?

The conversion itself doesn't scare me because I built my house myself and I tinker a lot with my current motorhome, but on the other hand, the administrative side is a bit off-putting—that's why I'm asking these questions 😉

Alright then, see you later
BL Bluerabbit ·
Sergio, I bought a 208 from Gaby and with some negotiation he threw in the ride. I didn't have a truck license either, so he drove it back to Toulouse for me. ++
SE Sergio60 ·
Thanks for the info, I'm going to try it.

Talk soon!😉
SE Sergio60 ·
Hi,

How did you secure the aluminum plates to replace the windows?

Cheers 😉
GX GX47 Regular ·
Hey, I didn't explain that well😊

When you go to the DRIRE, you're in TCP status. When the DRIRE tells you you're good, you're ALWAYS in TCP until you receive the official report from the DRIRE and then go get your registration card changed at the Prefecture.

THE FUNNY PART: is that when the DRIRE tells you OK, they take away your purple card, and LEGALLY you can't move your bus anymore😄 because you're in TCP without a purple card, and the DRIRE doesn't give you (at least not where I am) any certificate or official paperwork!😏 I got my MINES engineer running in circles without getting any solution out of it, "No, we're not giving you the purple card, no, no, I can't issue you paperwork, you just have to say you're leaving here and there's no solution to the problem🤪😛(my math teachers always told me if???😛😇) so you end up in perfect violation cool😎 long live the depths of bureaucracy, and try explaining that to a cop who's had a tough day...😕 better off not getting a ticket... and I almost did, and on top of that I was the one driving on the way back—my dad (70) didn't want to mess with that damn gear shift anymore! and I don't have TCP status (illegal for illegal! that brought back memories of my twenties😄) fortunately the coach has excellent brakes I lifted the rear up and after that nobody was on my tail😉 😏

Go to the DRIRE, ask for a file, talk to them, ask them questions, they like that, normally it's the same person who handles your file from A to Z. If they have any doubt about something, they'll look into it.
SE Sergio60 ·
Thanks, I'll be heading to the DRIRE soon...

Did you seal the windows on your bus? And how?

See you soon😉
PH Philippeg68 ·
Hi Patrick, and thanks for all the info. As for me, I'm continuing my search for a double-decker—max price 23,000 euros. If you have any information, feel free to keep me posted. Also, I own a non-buildable plot of land—can I put my bus there to live year-round? Thanks everyone for your help and good luck! Cheers, Philippe.
GX GX47 Regular ·
I've put black film, Trisodur or Super9 insulation (that aluminum and foam stuff for roofs or motorhomes), and fitted plywood wedged into the joints. But I'm thinking about metal sheeting — I'll check with a body shop.
GX GX47 Regular ·
Yeah, if you move your bus every 3 months minimum and you don't permanently install anything on it, but you'll often have trouble with local authorities and neighbors.
KA Kalifamily ·
Hey everyone, Quick question: Can we register an S53 coach as a heavy vehicle with the DRIRE? And won't there be any problems if we then want to convert it into a motorhome? Thanks for your replies! kalifamily
BY Bybyboxe ·
I've been following this discussion for a while, and honestly no one's really managed to solve the driver's door issue. I went to the DRIRE in Hauts-de-Seine (Nanterre) and ran into an administrator (the technicians are on vacation, coming back Thursday).

While waiting for more info, he gave me some documents that spell out the points to respect and the documents you need to provide. But definitely check section 3.5.1 (emergency exits):

"A DOOR ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE PROVIDING DIRECT ACCESS TO THE DRIVER'S CAB IS OPTIONAL"

I think the real issue is whether the driver's left window has the right surface area for an emergency exit—2700cm² minimum with no dimension less than 45 cm.

I haven't found a coach myself yet, but I'm thinking about going for an FR1 or VanHool ACRON. On a tight budget though, it's not easy to find.

For those who've already passed all these tests—did you have to follow the same technical requirements? Hope this document helps everyone. Cheers!
TO Tolr ·
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum.... I have a quick question for you: could someone give me the steps for converting a livestock truck into a motorhome or campervan? Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
MA Marco80000 ·
I'm looking for documentation on paint to protect the chassis of the 211
LE Leforezien ·
Hi Bybyboxe

I think you're making a smart choice heading toward an FR1: I've driven one and it's fantastic! As I was telling Patrick26, the driver's door seems to be an unavoidable requirement for registering a coach as a 'campervan' on your registration document. For anyone reading this, take the time to check with your local DRIRE: the more information we have, the more we can share it, and the better we'll all know where we stand.

The Lyon DRIRE tells me that you can't register a coach as a commercial vehicle ('PL') with a VASP mention: could those of you with reliable information help clarify this for us?

In the meantime, to spark some inspiration, here's the link to Treffen, the only gathering (to my knowledge) of converted camper coaches in Europe

http://www.wohnbus.ch/treffen/Wohnbus2005/BilderIsabelle/index.htm

See you soon!
LM Lmse ·
Hi, I'm discovering this forum and reaching out for some help. I work with an association that's creating a mobile Rrom radio station set up in a bus. It's a Renault S53 in good condition, low mileage, no seats and classified as a heavy vehicle. The goal is to install a living space, a radio studio and a small control room. Each section would be separated by wooden partitions with large plexiglass windows (so we can communicate between rooms and keep the light in).

For you, would this kind of setup be easy to get approved by the authorities? Since there's a living space, we need water reserves. Can they be stored in the holds?

Actually, I only have a few questions right now since I'm just starting to plan the setup. So your advice would be really valuable. Could you tell me what the important points to consider are?

Thank you in advance.
PH Philippeg68 ·
Hi "GX47" (so what do they call you?), thanks for your tip. I'll check with the town hall to see if that's possible, but right now I really need to find my bus—already spent several hours online and right now I'm still coming up empty, but "I'll have it one day, I'll have it" alright, back to it. Good luck to everyone, and thanks again. See you, Philippe.
BY Bybyboxe ·
Hey leforezien, I think you misread my message. The driver door is optional, so it's not mandatory (source: official DRIRE Nanterre documents + phone confirmation). As for your Lyon story, I reckon you ran into a junior trainee who had no clue. Why would they approve VASP motorhomes all across France but not in Lyon? You say you've driven FR1s—how much do they consume? Because we've talked about S53s (23 liters/100km) but not the bigger ones. That still counts toward the budget anyway. To sum it up: anyone with problems with the driver door, just call DRIRE NANTERRE at 01 56 38 02 61. I don't see why the other DRIRE offices would have different rules. Cheers everyone.
GX GX47 Regular ·
Hey "GX47" (by the way, what's your actual name?)

GX😏😏😏
LE Leforezien ·
Hi Bybyboxe I've already had the documents you posted online in hand; the issue is that they date from 1999-2000 and things have apparently changed since then, unfortunately for us! I'm not claiming to have the definitive answer to our question, I'm just pointing out that you can get different takes depending on the DRIRE of one department or another, with people being more or less aware of this driver-cab issue. I'll still check with the Nanterre side. The FR1's fuel consumption varies depending on the route you take, your driving style, and the load you're carrying...it can range from 25L for an empty highway trip at a relaxed pace to 35L+ in town fully loaded. Plan for an average of 30L and I think you'll be fine. Consumption is higher than a good old S53 (which is to the coach what the 504 diesel is to the car) but the comfort is incomparable in terms of driving and living space (insulation, AC, large storage compartments). When traveling with a full group, you come out OK. See you soon

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