Trouver un guide pour visiter le Sud algérien?
by Jacquestarn
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
Nous sommes un groupe de 3 véhicules 4x4, et sommes à la recherche d'un guide accompagnateur qui voyagerait dans un de nos véhicules.
Le départ est fixé aux alentours du 1 novembre 2010.
D'avance merci pour tous les renseignements que vous pourrez nous donner.
Bonjour
Avez-vous déjà établi votre circuit ? Et quid pour la prise en charge obligatoire pour l'obtention de vos visas (85 €/visa) ?
Selon les dernières informations, il y a des restrictions dans l'extrême sud (région Tam & Djanet) imposées par les militaires. Ca peut changer d'ici là, mais rien n'est certain !
Pour info, je vis une grande partie de l'année au Sahara.
LILI
Avez-vous déjà établi votre circuit ? Et quid pour la prise en charge obligatoire pour l'obtention de vos visas (85 €/visa) ?
Selon les dernières informations, il y a des restrictions dans l'extrême sud (région Tam & Djanet) imposées par les militaires. Ca peut changer d'ici là, mais rien n'est certain !
Pour info, je vis une grande partie de l'année au Sahara.
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
En réponse à Lili
Notre projet, à préciser s'il semble réalisable, serait d'arriver en
> Algérie par Taleb Larbi et descendre vers Djanet avec
> détour par le Tassili des N'ajjers. De Djanet,
> rejoindre Tamanrasset par la piste directe ( Sérouenout) ou par le sud (
> Monts Gautier et Tassili du Hoggar).
Ensuite, mais cela ne paraît pas possible du moins actuellement serait de rejoindre Gao, en partant de Tamanrasset, par Tin-Missao, BBM et Tessalit.
Pour la partie Malienne, nous avons fait l'an dernier la connaissance d'un guide à GAO.
Jacques
Il va falloir être à l'affût des informations, avant de vous y rendre, puisque l'interdiction touche justement cette région entre Djanet et Tam.... Ailleurs ce n'est pas la peine d'y songer vue certains problèmes plus bas...vers le Niger, Mali, ...
Tu peux trouver des articles de presse algérienne qui en parlent... sur Internet... Les agences de tourisme du sud, sont catastrophées...
LILI
Tu peux trouver des articles de presse algérienne qui en parlent... sur Internet... Les agences de tourisme du sud, sont catastrophées...
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
salut jac
oui tu peut trouve des bon guide au sud algerie qui counais tous les place.
pour ton circuit est tres jolie.
Taleb Larbi et descendre vers Djanet avec détour par le Tassili des N'ajjers. De Djanet,
rejoindre Tamanrasset par la piste directe ( Sérouenout) ou par le sud . Monts Gautier et Tassili du Hoggar).tu peut faire cette circuit.
mes la rejoindre Gao, en partant de Tamanrasset, par Tin-Missao, BBM et Tessalit. un peut dificil.
a bientot.
bonjour ,
ya bcoup des guides et agance qui proposes ce service de guide qui voyage dans un de vos 4x4 , mais , pour le programme , pour le moment je pense , que la région de monts Gautier n'es pas ouvert au voyageurs .
compte au mali vous pouvez entrer au mali par le post de tinzaouten mieux , pour rejoindre votre guide malien labas et allez a gao .
j'espere pour vous un bon voyage .
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - la situation devient très critique, tant au niveau de la sécurité qu'au niveau des autorisations....
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - la situation devient très critique, tant au niveau de la sécurité qu'au niveau des autorisations....
LILI
J'en suis bien conscient. Encore une mauvaise nouvelle pour nos amis Algériens. Jacques
LILI
J'en suis bien conscient. Encore une mauvaise nouvelle pour nos amis Algériens. Jacques
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - LILI
"Oui, apparement c le même Groupe Libéré par les Maliens pr les Beaux Yeux des Français ( en échange de l agent de la DSTE Français)…….Maintenait il recommencent les massacres des Algériens…..😠"
"Oui, apparement c le même Groupe Libéré par les Maliens pr les Beaux Yeux des Français ( en échange de l agent de la DSTE Français)…….Maintenait il recommencent les massacres des Algériens…..😠"
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Je peux te fournir les coordonnés de quelques agences algériennes qui font le sud si tu veux
bonjour ben pour le guide au sud algerien il faut descendre jusqu'au villes du porte du desert vous avez ghardaia ou el golea et meme jusqu'a tamenrasset là vous pourrez trouver votre guide et vous marchandez le tarif.
"😄..Arrete svp.....Il faut avoir un Guide avant la Vallée du Mzab………si non pas de passage vers le Grand Sud….😉".
"😄..Arrete svp.....Il faut avoir un Guide avant la Vallée du Mzab………si non pas de passage vers le Grand Sud….😉".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
exacte , à mon avis il faut plutôt trouver le guide pour y aller je sais que certains attendent leurs clients a l’aéroport d’Alger ou bien au frontières
"Au Poste Frontalier de Taleb Larbi ( El Oued) pas de sortie pr les étrangers sans Guide…….Car c la porte du Sahara……….Pr les autres Postes ( tous sont dans la partie Nord ) les étrangers peuvent entrer en Algérie , mais il peuvent pas accéder au Sahara sans Guide. Ils seront Stoppés net à la porte du Sahara……".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Attention concernant VF, c'est interdit ! C'est assimilé à de la publicité et donc cela devient payant ici !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Attention concernant VF, c'est interdit ! C'est assimilé à de la publicité et donc cela devient payant ici !
LILI
"Merci de nous le faire rappeler……😉..".
LILI
"Merci de nous le faire rappeler……😉..".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
J'espere que pour vous la situation se calmera d'ici là. Car pour l'instant le tourisme saharien est au bas de l'echelle. Les risque sont present. Et cahcun des etats fait sont effort intermitent. ce qui permet au bandits de se rendre chez l'un ou l'autre...
En tous cas les guides ne manqueront pas car il n'y a pas de demande de leur services.
Cela est revoltant de voir plusieurs etat en 2010 etre à la merci d'une poignée d'hommes. J'espere que les reunions entre ces differents etats aboutirons a un accord qui pourra reprimer dans tous les sens du mots toutes nuissances au populations et a leurs hotes.
Le tourisme est de loin l'economie des peuple du sahara. Le petrole, l'uranium... sont pour les autres.
J'espere que pour vous la situation se calmera d'ici là. Car pour l'instant le tourisme saharien est au bas de l'echelle. Les risque sont present. Et cahcun des etats fait sont effort intermitent. ce qui permet au bandits de se rendre chez l'un ou l'autre...
En tous cas les guides ne manqueront pas car il n'y a pas de demande de leur services.
Cela est revoltant de voir plusieurs etat en 2010 etre à la merci d'une poignée d'hommes. J'espere que les reunions entre ces differents etats aboutirons a un accord qui pourra reprimer dans tous les sens du mots toutes nuissances au populations et a leurs hotes.
Le tourisme est de loin l'economie des peuple du sahara. Le petrole, l'uranium... sont pour les autres.
Merci "Agadez" pour ta réponse, En effet comme tu le dis si bien, c'est vraiment triste que les populations soient en fait prises en otage par les agisssements d'une minorité. Nous restons à l'affut de toutes les informations, avant de prendre une décision. Cordialement, Jacques
Merci "Agadez" pour ta réponse, En effet comme tu le dis si bien, c'est vraiment triste que les populations soient en fait prises en otage par les agisssements d'une minorité. Nous restons à l'affut de toutes les informations, avant de prendre une décision. Cordialement, Jacques
Bonsoir,
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonsoir,
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonjour Abderrahmane, Oui notre projet est toujours d'actualité, mais nous attendons le dernier moment pour nous décider, compte tenu des nombreuses interdictions de circuler dans le grand sud Algérien. Cordialement, Jacques
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonjour Abderrahmane, Oui notre projet est toujours d'actualité, mais nous attendons le dernier moment pour nous décider, compte tenu des nombreuses interdictions de circuler dans le grand sud Algérien. Cordialement, Jacques
Je comprends c'est la meilleure des solutions pour l'instant. Au cas où s'ils vous arrivaient de changer votre parcours je pourrais vous proposez de vous faire visitez la ville d'El oued si vous n'avez jamais mi les pieds, une très belle ville avec un désert très surprenant qui se situe pas très loin de Taleb Larbi.
Cordialement,
Abderrahmane
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I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help




