Bien le bonjour à tous,
voilà, comme le titre l'indique je m'aprete à effectuer ma première randonnée. A vrai dire, je ne sais pas très bien si elle peut être considérée comme "grande randonnée". Je compte partir marcher avec ma copine 3-4 jours en autonomie pour arriver à un lac où nous passerons quelques jours sur place.
Bon la raison de ce post est que, en tant que grand débutant j'ai plusieurs questions à vous poser afin d'avoir des réponses concrètes et personnelles par des habitués.
J'aurai voulu savoir quelle distance pouvons-nous marcher par jour pendant 3-4 jours afin de planifier au mieux l'itinéraire? Sachant que je suis en dernière année d'éducation physique, mon état de forme est plutôt bon grâce aux nombreux sports que je pratique durant ma formation mais aussi en dehors (entre autres football, escalade, squash, foot en salle et natation) et ma copine est également sportive (zumba, abdo-fessier, tennis). De plus, j'ai remarqué, grâce à ma carte, que le dénivelé est vraiment faible. Avec tout ces paramètres est-il possible de faire une "moyenne" par jour de marche? 20 km par jour est audacieux ou au contraire pas beaucoup?
De plus, j'aurai également voulu savoir si c'est une bonne idée d'acheter un sac de couchage double? Nous pourrions emporter celui-ci + un autre sac de couchage simple que l'on déplie pour mettre en couverture? Pensez-vous que, sachant que l'on part fin juin à proximité de la frontière franco-belge, nous aurions assez chaud? ( ma copine a vite froid...)
Je ne veux pas écrire un roman mais si vous pouvez également jeter un coup d'oeilsur cet article, ce serai vraiment sympa:
(Je précise que je ne tiens pas à avoir du matériel haut de gamme mais juste de quoi bien débuter).
Tente: http://fr.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-discovery-2-tunnel-tent-2012-783037?colcode=78303790
Désolé de la longeur du post et je vous remercie d'avance pour vos éclaircissements sur mes questions
20 km par jour, sur du plat, en étant sportif, c'est vraiment tranquille.
La ente que tu envisages me parait exagérément lourde. Plus de 4 kg pour 2 ! Tu peux facilement trouver 2 fois moins lourd, voire 4 fois moins lourd, tout en restant dans des budgets raisonnables.
Ce qui m'amène à te conseiller de bien faire attention au poids de vos sac à dos. L'erreur classique du débutant, c'ets de prenre trop de choses, et des choses bien trop lourdes, donc d'arriver à un sac de 15 ou 20 kg pour une telle rando. Ce qui est bien trop, et peut dégouter.
Un sac de couchage double, je ne vois pas vraiment ce dont il s'agit. En tout cas, en été et en Belgique, un sac de couchage + un autre en couverture par dessus, cela me semble de trop. Cela étant, tout dépend des sacs de couchage que tu as en tête.
un duvet double ? perso on a des duvets jumelables c'est à dire le meme duvet ouverture à droite et l'autre ouverture à gauche
CQFD
n'oublie pas le matelas
si tu ne crains pas un matelas mousse sinon je te conseille les autogonflants (en format 3/4 les pieds depassent mais c'est moins lourd ) http://www.decathlon.fr/F-50646-matelas
n'oublie pas une petite sangle plate pour jumeler tes matelas (pour eviter qu'ils s'ecartent dans la nuit 😉)
je te conseille vraiment de faire attention au poids randonner avec 15/ 20 kg sur le dos ce n'est pas du tout agreable et cela peut te ruiner une premiere experience
pense aussi à l'alimentation c'est sympa de pouvoir manger qq chose de chaud (rechaud gaz ou bois) et de bon
tout en etant leger à porter (on evite les boites de conserves 😉 ) regarde si tu peux reapprovisionner en cours de route
Tout d'abord, je vous remercie pour ces réponses très claires. Je suis content de pouvoir bénéficier de vos conseils.
Donc 20 km c'est une bonne distance si on veut bien prendre le temps de marcher, de s'attarder un peu devant un paysage, un village..
Pour parler du poids du sac à dos, combien pourrais-je porter? (Je mesure 1m78 et 74 kilos). Parce que je pensais que si je prenais la tente de 4kg en questions, plus le matériel nécessaire pour dormir ( matelas, sacs de couchage) je tournerais autours des 10 kilos. Je pensais donc pouvoir rajouter quelques affaire en plus pour arriver à 13 ou 14 et ne m'occuper que du matériel plus "lourd"? Mais nous sommes deux donc ma copine sait aussi transporter des choses (plus légères certes..). J'avais lu (c'est peut être faux, sur internet un trouve tout et n'importe quoi) que le sac à dos devait correspondre à 20% du poids donc là on est dans le bon non? Enfin j'en sais trop rien je suis vraiment débutant donc on me ferai croire n'importe quoi.
Merci de m'avoir trouvé un lien pour une super tente mais c'est directement un autre budget, je suis étudiant et pas beaucoup de moyens. C'est vraiment de la top qualité cette tente pour moi. Donc si je ne sais pas mettre plus de 80 euros pour une tente, je suis condamné à porter du plus lourd je crois. Je pensais aussi à la tente T3 spéciale randonnée de chez Décathlon mais elle tourne aussi dans les mêmes eaux question poids.
Donc les nuits en tente fin juin en Belgique ne sont pas si fraîches que ça? Il nous faudrait un sac de couchage (ou deux que l'on pourrai associer! merci du tuyau) qui correspond à quelle "zone de confort" plus ou moins pour avoir une idée?
Pour la nourriture, le parcours GR (le 125) passe par plusieurs villages où il y a possibilité de faire des provisions donc je pensais faire au jour le jour ( en gardant toujours de la nourriture de secours au cas où...). Vaut-il mieux préparer un stock de départ que l'on écoule au fur et à mesure? Nous avons récupéré un réchaud donc ça c'est déjà bon à fond.
Encore une fois merci de vos réponses et de l'attention que vous portez à mon sujet malgré le fait que je débute dans cette discipline et que donc mes questions doivent être un peu idiotes et logiques pour vous.
bien sur sur le papier on peut porter jusqu'au 1/4 de son poids soit 18,5 kg pour toi
les porteurs nepalais portent d'ailleurs bien plus
mais je peux te garantir que plus le sac est lourd plus c'est penible (d'autant plus que tu n'auras peut etre pas sac haut de gamme hyper confortable ni hyperleger )
ensuite on sous estime toujours le poids de son sac au depart quand tu auras rajouté l'eau (1l egal 1kg) la nourriture , le gaz , le rechaud une casserole .... tu vas etre surpris
essaye peut etre deja de ton mettre dans ton sac sauf la tente et regarde le poids
salut à toi,
peut être un peu tard ma contribution mais voilà quand même .😛
Même si tu pense ne pas avoir un budget elastique pense que si ça te botte c'est de l'investissement !
Une fois que tu auras acheté ta tente , tu en as pour longtemps. Regarde sur E-bay peut-être ton bonheur t'y attends.
Le poids du sac à dos est primordial comme d'autres te l'ont signalés mais aussi la qualité de celui-ci aussi. Je pense aux bretelles et rembourrage de dos.
Et là c'est aussi une question d'investissement.
12 à 14 kg est le max .
Mon mari a suivi une formation de guide de randonnée et c'est le poids qu'il devait avoir pour faire ses examens.( eaux et nourritures comprises )
Quand il a commencé sa formation je me suis dis que j'allais acheté les chaussures les meilleurs marché car ce serait de temps en temps. Le virus m'a contaminée et je dois dire qu'avoir des bottines qui pèse un tonne tu les sens au bout de 4 jours de marche donc là aussi réfléchi bien car après l'achat il te faudra +/- 5 ans avant d'en acheter d'autres ...si tu les uses 😛 qu'elles soit imperméable est tout bénéf surtout si tu penses te rendre dans les fagnes.
Pour ma part après 30 à 35km de rando par jour je ne suis plus de bonne humeur . L'idéal s'est de ne pas dépasser son seuil de plaisir/effort.
En ce qui concerne les nuits : suivant que tu dormiras près de l'eau ou non cela peut changer radicalement ton besoin. Un polar peu faire la différence plutot qu'un sac de couchage trop épais.
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
