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Bonjour, nous sommes en escale à Toronto pour une durée de 11h. Est il possible d'aller visiter les chutes du Niagara et revenir dans ce laps de temps en louant une voiture à l'aéroport ?
Merci pour vos réponses
Toronto - Niagara Falls
by Bobo31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour.
Pearson est au sud ouest de Toronto, plutôt du coté de NF, à 1h30 des chutes(attention aux bouchons)
Je dirais que 11h est donc largement suffisant pour aller VOIR les chutes.
Disons 2H maxi maxi pour sortir de l'avion, prendre la voiture, 2 h au retour en se gardant une marge de sécurité (faire le plein)
Ca laisse donc 2h mini à NIAGARA. Largement le temps de voir les chutes, et que les chutes.
Pour gagner du temps, prenez la carte d'un grand loueur (hertz avis) pour que vos infos soient déjà connues et que vs ne perdiez pas de temps à la rédaction du contrat.
Je dirais que 11h est donc largement suffisant pour aller VOIR les chutes.
Disons 2H maxi maxi pour sortir de l'avion, prendre la voiture, 2 h au retour en se gardant une marge de sécurité (faire le plein)
Ca laisse donc 2h mini à NIAGARA. Largement le temps de voir les chutes, et que les chutes.
Pour gagner du temps, prenez la carte d'un grand loueur (hertz avis) pour que vos infos soient déjà connues et que vs ne perdiez pas de temps à la rédaction du contrat.
Merci, on va faire ça le lundi 11/08. On essaiera d'éviter les bouchons.
Merci encore
Bonjour
Je ne sais pas si vs venez à TORONTO par un vol international ou national. Si c'est un national, et que vs n'avez pas besoin de recupere vos valises, c'est beaucoup plus rapide.
Pour la voiture, resrvez avant pour perdre le moins de temps possible.
Je ne sais pas si vs venez à TORONTO par un vol international ou national. Si c'est un national, et que vs n'avez pas besoin de recupere vos valises, c'est beaucoup plus rapide.
Pour la voiture, resrvez avant pour perdre le moins de temps possible.
Nous sommes de passage entre Montréal et NY. Ce dois être un vol national et nous aurons sûrement enregistré les bagages des le départ direct pour NY
Amplement de temps.
Attention quand même: le tracé le plus rapide suggéré par Google (01:12:00 au moment de la rédaction de ces lignes) fait passer par la 407 ETR la seule autoroute totalement électronique dans tout le Canada; cela signifie que les frais de péage + frais d'administration vous seront refilés par le loueur.
Attention quand même: le tracé le plus rapide suggéré par Google (01:12:00 au moment de la rédaction de ces lignes) fait passer par la 407 ETR la seule autoroute totalement électronique dans tout le Canada; cela signifie que les frais de péage + frais d'administration vous seront refilés par le loueur.
Ça veut dire quoi refiler par le loueur ? Ça ne se paye pas sur place avec des péages ?
Qu'est que sont les frais d'administration ?
Tu as un itinéraire à me proposer ? Je ne suis pas contre les péages si ça nous donne un trajet plus rapide.
Tu peux m'expliquer comment ça se passe pour cette fameuse autoroute et ce que je dois faire avec mon loueur ?
Merci
Bobo31
"How does billing work if I drive on 407 ETR in a rental car? If a rental car goes on 407 ETR, the rental car company (as the owner of the vehicle) will be sent a bill. It is completely up to the car rental company to decide how to bill the toll charges and/or their additional administrative fees to the user of the vehicle."
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2228678;search_string=Ontario%20407 ... un lien qui remonte à 2008, donc les prix doivent être ajustés à ceux d'aujourd'hui (je n'ai jamais eu à utiliser la 407; mais en Floride pour m'être engagé sur une voie rapide sans transpondeur, ce fut 0.90$ + 25,00$).
Alors aucun péage pour ralentir la circulation. Les taux varient selon le moment où on emprunte la voie rapide. L'agence ne pourra donc vous dire que le montant des frais d'administration qui comme d'habitude seront beaucoup plus élevés que ceux du péage.
Peut-être qu'on vous offrira un transbondeur chez le locateur.
Pourquoi ne pas contacter l'ami Jadorry?
Lisedenise, experte sur Toronto a aussi écrit dans le même lien: Jamais de blocage, une très bonne vitesse, tout ça valait les sous dépensés pour y circuler surtout qu'au tout début, lors de l'ouverture de la route, c'était gratuit😛 !
Ça vaut le coup surtoutentre deux avions.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2228678;search_string=Ontario%20407 ... un lien qui remonte à 2008, donc les prix doivent être ajustés à ceux d'aujourd'hui (je n'ai jamais eu à utiliser la 407; mais en Floride pour m'être engagé sur une voie rapide sans transpondeur, ce fut 0.90$ + 25,00$).
Alors aucun péage pour ralentir la circulation. Les taux varient selon le moment où on emprunte la voie rapide. L'agence ne pourra donc vous dire que le montant des frais d'administration qui comme d'habitude seront beaucoup plus élevés que ceux du péage.
Peut-être qu'on vous offrira un transbondeur chez le locateur.
Pourquoi ne pas contacter l'ami Jadorry?
Lisedenise, experte sur Toronto a aussi écrit dans le même lien: Jamais de blocage, une très bonne vitesse, tout ça valait les sous dépensés pour y circuler surtout qu'au tout début, lors de l'ouverture de la route, c'était gratuit😛 !
Ça vaut le coup surtoutentre deux avions.
Bonjour
1° j'ai pris la 407 il y a 4 semaines en venant de ALGONQUIN pour me rendre à NF, entre la 400 et la QEW.
Je n'ai rien vu de particulier pour le péage.
27 DE PEARSON, on peut prendre la 427 pour rejoindre la QEW
1° j'ai pris la 407 il y a 4 semaines en venant de ALGONQUIN pour me rendre à NF, entre la 400 et la QEW.
Je n'ai rien vu de particulier pour le péage.
27 DE PEARSON, on peut prendre la 427 pour rejoindre la QEW
Tu n'as rien vu de particulier ?
C'est a dire ?
Vu ou pas vu de kiosque de péage et//ou pas vu de caméra pour lire les plaques ou....?
Si tu avais un véhicule loué , tu seras sûrement débité par le loueur éventuellement .
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoroute_407_(Ontario)
C'est a dire ?
Vu ou pas vu de kiosque de péage et//ou pas vu de caméra pour lire les plaques ou....?
Si tu avais un véhicule loué , tu seras sûrement débité par le loueur éventuellement .
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoroute_407_(Ontario)
Bonjour Jean Pierre,
Tiens nous au courant des suites, je devrais y passer l'été prochain!
@ nos amis Canadiens : il y en a d'autres routes à péages automatiques dans cette région ?
Cordialement, Caussat
Tiens nous au courant des suites, je devrais y passer l'été prochain!
@ nos amis Canadiens : il y en a d'autres routes à péages automatiques dans cette région ?
Cordialement, Caussat
Bonjour Jean Pierre,
Tiens nous au courant des suites, je devrais y passer l'été prochain!
@ nos amis Canadiens : il y en a d'autres routes à péages automatiques dans cette région ?
Cordialement, Caussat
Pas à ma connaissance , c'est le seul dont j'ai entendu parler . C'est très très rare au Canada. Ce serais le seul et je n'en serais pas surpris
Tiens nous au courant des suites, je devrais y passer l'été prochain!
@ nos amis Canadiens : il y en a d'autres routes à péages automatiques dans cette région ?
Cordialement, Caussat
Pas à ma connaissance , c'est le seul dont j'ai entendu parler . C'est très très rare au Canada. Ce serais le seul et je n'en serais pas surpris
Merci pour cette réponse rapide. Selon le coût de la prestation loueur, je regarderai s'il y a un itinéraire l'évitant, alors!
Re
Je n'ai rien vu de particulier, mais je viens d'approfondir mon itineraire, et je ne devrais avoir pris la 407 que tres peu de temps : entre la 400, et la 427 qui m'a mené à la QEW.
Donc j'ai rien vu, peut etre car il n'y avait pas de portique de photos.
Pour le paiment, ca sera difficile à voir car j'avais une voiture equipée d'un TOLL PASS, que j'ai utilisé à NYC, puis à CHICAGO. J'attends d'ailleurs la facture de HERTZ.
Je n'ai rien vu de particulier, mais je viens d'approfondir mon itineraire, et je ne devrais avoir pris la 407 que tres peu de temps : entre la 400, et la 427 qui m'a mené à la QEW.
Donc j'ai rien vu, peut etre car il n'y avait pas de portique de photos.
Pour le paiment, ca sera difficile à voir car j'avais une voiture equipée d'un TOLL PASS, que j'ai utilisé à NYC, puis à CHICAGO. J'attends d'ailleurs la facture de HERTZ.
Salut
Comme dit plus haut, j'attends maintenant de HERTZ la facuration des divers péages des ponts de NYC, et des autoroutes de CHICAGO.
Je vs tiens au courant.
Jean Pierre, il est possible d'éviter le toll pass à Chicago ?
J'avoue qu'à Miami cette semaine ça a été assez galère (j'envisage même d'acheter un sun pass pour les prochaines fois). Le problème est de payer pour toute la location alors qu'on n'en a besoin qu'une fois ou deux 🤪
Le Toll Pass américain ne serais pas utile au Canada à mon avis , le temps que ta plaque soit identifiée lors de ton passage au Canada ( si ça se fait ? ) ça prendra du temps avant d'avoir la facture .
Re
Il y a quelques routes qui sont payantes vers CHICAGO, et il est toujours possible de les eviter.
En venant de l'est, il y a la 80/90, qui vient de TOLEDO. On l'evite en prenant la 94. Perso c'est la 94 que je prends en venant de DETROIT (c'est le plus logique d'ailleurs) En venant de PITTSBURGH, je suis passé par la 30 (fort Wayne) c'etait plus sympa.
Ca devient plus compliqué car à partir de GARY, la 80 devient 80/94 est devient gratuite. En fait, j'exagere car on reste toujours sur la 94 et on rentre sur CHICAGO gratuitement... Mais il y a pas mal de circulation, plus que sur la 90. L'autre interet de la 90 est qu'on arrive sur CHICAGO par la 41 (Lakeshoredrive) le bord du lac et c'est tres joli( enfin, pas au debut, uniquement quand on arrive au bord du lac)
En allant du Nord au sud, il y a la 294, qui devient ensuite 94, qui mene au WISCONSIN. On peut l'eviter, mais c'est tres long, en prenant la 41 au niveau du Chicago Botanic Garden.
A partir d'O Hare, la 90 devient payante en allant sur l'est.
En fait, les péages sont tellement peu cher que je ne m'en occupe pas. Je branche le toll pass et je roule.
Bref, je vais prendre une aspirine.
Il y a quelques routes qui sont payantes vers CHICAGO, et il est toujours possible de les eviter.
En venant de l'est, il y a la 80/90, qui vient de TOLEDO. On l'evite en prenant la 94. Perso c'est la 94 que je prends en venant de DETROIT (c'est le plus logique d'ailleurs) En venant de PITTSBURGH, je suis passé par la 30 (fort Wayne) c'etait plus sympa.
Ca devient plus compliqué car à partir de GARY, la 80 devient 80/94 est devient gratuite. En fait, j'exagere car on reste toujours sur la 94 et on rentre sur CHICAGO gratuitement... Mais il y a pas mal de circulation, plus que sur la 90. L'autre interet de la 90 est qu'on arrive sur CHICAGO par la 41 (Lakeshoredrive) le bord du lac et c'est tres joli( enfin, pas au debut, uniquement quand on arrive au bord du lac)
En allant du Nord au sud, il y a la 294, qui devient ensuite 94, qui mene au WISCONSIN. On peut l'eviter, mais c'est tres long, en prenant la 41 au niveau du Chicago Botanic Garden.
A partir d'O Hare, la 90 devient payante en allant sur l'est.
En fait, les péages sont tellement peu cher que je ne m'en occupe pas. Je branche le toll pass et je roule.
Bref, je vais prendre une aspirine.
Merci pour cette réponse et bonne "Bayer" (si j'ai bien retenu comment nos amis Canadiens dénomment l'aspirine) 😉
En fait pour les péages et comme en Floride, ce n'est pas tant le prix du péage qui me gène (souvent dérisoire) que le fait de devoir payer le pass pour l'ensemble de la location alors que je n'en ai besoin qu'une ou deux fois ! Mais je le reconnais, se sont des économies "presque" inutiles !
En fait pour les péages et comme en Floride, ce n'est pas tant le prix du péage qui me gène (souvent dérisoire) que le fait de devoir payer le pass pour l'ensemble de la location alors que je n'en ai besoin qu'une ou deux fois ! Mais je le reconnais, se sont des économies "presque" inutiles !
Re
C'est vrai que par rapport aux prix des péages, le cout de facturation de l'appareil apparait tres exageré (ceci dit, il y a quand même du travail pour le loueur ).
Il me semble que chez HERTZ, ce n'est facturé que pour les jours ou le transpondeur est reellement utilisé, par pour toute la location. (faut que je verifie quand je recevrais le debit.
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse