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Médina typique à Marrakech et visite aux alentours
by Maururuee
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
nous partons 15 jours à Marrakech le 9 février avec notre fille de 10 ans et j'aimerai lui faire découvrir les beautés du Maroc;
je cherche vos informations sur :
une belle médina typique avec piscine chauffée plein coeur marrakech
idées de balades autour de Marrakech et aller dans le désert , ouerzazate ?
est ce qu'on peut faire de bons massages à Marrakech ?
est ce qu'il vaut mieux louer une voiture ou se faire conduire ?
merci à tous
merci à tous
carpediem
Bonjour
Vous cherchez un riad avec piscine chauffée dans la vieille medina? Je ne sais pas s' il y en a. Je ne crois pas et les piscines sont petites.
Les balades dont on vous parlera très bien ici sont la vallee de l ' Ourika, l' Oukaimeden .... et bien sûr la ville d Essaouira à 2 h de Kech.
Ouerzazat : moi j aime bien ( et votre fille adorera visiter les studios de cinéma et le musée-en plein centre) mais toujours ici on vous dira qu' il n y a rien à voir. Je ne suis pas de cet avis.Ouerzazat est à 4 heures voire 5 de Kech et le paysage pour y aller magnifique.
Le désert: reg à 20 km de Kech ( Agafay) mais ce n est pas ce que vous cherchez je pense. Ou alors Merzouga ou M Hamid qui sont beaucoup plus loin et où je pense que vous devrez consacrer au moins 2 nuits.
Il y a de bons massages dans tous les " grands hôtels " et ailleurs. Google peut vous dire tout cela. Prix similaires à ceux de France souvent.
Quant au moyen de locomotion on vous dira aussi que le bus c ' est super. Je n ' en sais rien . La location de voiture , c' est bien aussi surtout si vous allez hors de la ville. En ville elle n ' est absolument pas utile ( il y a les petits taxis) Il suffit d ' être prudent de d' éviter de conduire la nuit car les routes sont peu éclairées.
Vous pouvez aussi louer un grand taxi. Il faut vous mettre d' accord sur le prix avant.
Le 2 octobre on a pris l'avion à Nantes à 6h55 et 2h et demi plus tard on atterrissait à Marrakech.
A 9h, il faisait déjà 19 degrés, un superbe ciel bleu et on s'apprêtait à découvrir le Maroc.
Bien conseillés par les experts contactés sur les forums, on a pris le bus (4dh) pour aller directement à l'hôtel Toulousain où on avait réservé notre chambre.En attendant que la chambre soit prête, on a pris un excellent petit déjeuner dans le joli patio avant de nous accorder un petit moment de repos et de partir arpenter les rues de la ville. En chemin, on fait le tour du centre artisanal, on découvre tous les petits métiers d'art, le travail du bois, la calligraphie, les bijoutiers, les vanniers... Puis, on aperçoit la mosquée de la Koutoubia, majestueuse et élégante, la plus grande de la ville, nous a-t-on dit! On découvre bientôt la célèbre place Djema El F'Na, plus gande que je l'avais imaginé, colorée, avec ses marchands de fruits secs, de jus d'oranges, ses charmeurs de serpents... Avant de s'aventurer dans le souk, on décide de manger au resto-grill El Bahaj.Très bonnes grillades pour une poignée de dh. Et on se perd dans le souk, il est très facile de s'y perdre, mais on a notre plan, tout va bien.On passe du quartier des babouches à celui de la mercerie, puis celui des bijoutiers, des dinandiers... C'est immense!Il y a des quantités de marchandises de toutes sortes! Fatigués, on prend le bus numéro pour rentrer!
Dès le lendemain, à 9h, la voiture est là, devant l'hôtel et vers 10h on quitte Marrakech pour aller directement voir les cascades d'Ouzoud.Après un petit tour au-dessus des cascades on déjeune au Titrite, très bon et très gentil.Bien retapés on descend voir les cascades, c'est grandiose, c'est magnifique, impressionnant...En remontant, on fait une petite pause dans un bar pour profiter de la vue et souffler un peu.
Nuit au camping Zébra!Très bien!Très propre!
Et après un petit déjeuner pris au soleil, on s'en va voir l'arche d'IMINIFRI.C'est beau aussi mais quand on a vu les cascades, on trouve que c'est plus banal!
Et très on vite on reprend la route 307, route splendide mais plutôt délabrée!Le goudron est souvent absent, les nids de poule sont énormes mais le paysage est exceptionnel!Les arrêts-photos se multiplient!
Après des kilomètres un peu difficiles, on fait notre entrée à Skoura dans la soirée.Il est temps, la nuit tombe déjà... On va aussitôt au gîte de La Palmeraie.On fait la connaissance de toute la famille autour du thé et des amandes du jardin.Un bon tajine, du fromage de chèvre au miel, des grenades du jardin et une bonne nuit... Au petit déjeuner du lendemain, une surprise nous attend, un énorme pain tout chaud, tout croustillant, fait maison, dans le four du jardin...Trop bon...Avec des crêpes-maison en plus....Petit déjeuner pantagruélique!
Après ça, on a besoin de se dépenser, Mohamed nous accompagne aux gorges de Sidi Fla...L'oued Dadès y circule entre les roches noires.C'est vraiment superbe!
L'après-midi, on fait un tour dans la palmeraie, c'est tranquille, c'est beau!
Et le soir, tout le monde est réuni autour d'un grand couscous délicieusement parfumé et servi avec du lait "ribot", du petit lait!C'est un festin! On en profite pour échanger conseils de visite et bonnes adresses avec les vacanciers présents ce soir-là.Ils reviennent de Merzouga et nous disent tout le plaisir qu'ils ont eu dans le désert et au bivouac organisé par l'auberge Camel house.On retient l'adresse...
Après une bonne nuit, un petit déjeuner servi sur la terrasse, face à la montagne, on décide d'aller voir la vallée des amandiers et là encore on est époustouflés par la beauté des paysages, par les couleurs et par les roches.On en prend plein les yeux!
Et le soir, on participe à la préparation du tajine sous les conseils de Ghizlane, espiègle et charmante.Et on est plutôt satisfaits du résultat!
On prend congé de Mohamed et des siens le lendemain, après le petit déjeuner, après avoir dévoré le pain géant de la maison.Mohamed tient absolument à nettoyer la voiture avant notre départ, il nous réserve notre nuit au bivouac, on y sera attendus dans 2 jours, le temps de faire un tour dans les gorges de Dadès.
Belle route pour se rendre dans la vallée du Dadès, route nouvellement bitumée... On s'arrête en bordure de route, dans une petite auberge conseillée sur les forums.Accueil très sympa d'Hassan qui fait le maximum pour nous faire plaisir mais l'auberge est triste et froide.En revanche, le site est splendide.Les " pattes de singes sont surprenantes", les formes sculptées dans les roches par l'érosion sont étonnantes.
Et on quitte les rives du Dadès pour filer vers le désert.La route se fait bien.On est attendus au Camel house.L'accueil est charmant.Le bivouac est prévu et le départ se fait rapidement.On monte chacun sur notre dromadaire, pas très fiers au début et puis on se détend au fil des minutes.On se laisse gagner par la magie du désert, parce que c'est vraiment magique...Une bonne heure de promenade à travers les dunes et on atteint le bivouac, plutôt confortable (on a même des draps)...On prend plaisir à marcher dans le sable d'une finesse extraordinaire et on attend tranquillement le coucher du soleil...Moment magique!Excellent tajine précédé d'une soupe harira et suivi de fruits.Animation, musique berbère!Et bonne nuit de sommeil, au calme!
Le lendemain matin, sitôt levés, on profite du lever du soleil et on regagne la maison d'hôtes pour y petit déjeuner tranquillement avant de reprendre la voiture pour Tinéghir.Cette découverte du désert est un grand moment de ces vacances.
A Tinéghir, on pense aller à Todra-Panorama, jolie auberge qui nous a été conseillée, mais c'est trop cher...On va coucher plus loin dans les gorges, chez Valentine, c'est mignon aussi et les prix sont raisonnables.Notre chambre donne sur la palmeraie, c'est agréable.On fait une belle promenade dans les gorges et même au-delà dans les jardins.C'est très joli aussi!Quelques groupes escaladent les parois des gorges, c'est tout un spectacle!Et promenade dans la palmeraie de Tinéghir.
Sur la route du retour vers Skoura, on fait un crochet vers la vallée des roses!Là encore, les paysages sont extraordinaires, les oueds géants, les anciennes kasbahs ont encore fière allure même si elles sont menacées de disparaître rapidement!
Et on retrouve Skoura, la famille de Mohamed et la palmeraie. Le coucher de soleil depuis la terrasse embrase toute la palmeraie.
Et l'arc en ciel nous a bien épatés aussi!
Et puis c'est le retour à Marrakech pour visiter les incontournables:jardin Majorelle, médersa;médina, palais et à nouveau les souks et encore les souks tous plus colorés les uns que les autres!
Voilà l'essentiel d'un voyage de 2 jolies petites semaines au Maroc. Sitôt fini, j'ai déjà le sentiment d'avoir oublié de parler de tout un tas de choses:le souk, les gens, les couleurs, les odeurs, la vie....MAIS... On sait déjà qu'on y retournera!!
Voir les photos sur la discussion 1er voyage au Maroc
Bien conseillés par les experts contactés sur les forums, on a pris le bus (4dh) pour aller directement à l'hôtel Toulousain où on avait réservé notre chambre.En attendant que la chambre soit prête, on a pris un excellent petit déjeuner dans le joli patio avant de nous accorder un petit moment de repos et de partir arpenter les rues de la ville. En chemin, on fait le tour du centre artisanal, on découvre tous les petits métiers d'art, le travail du bois, la calligraphie, les bijoutiers, les vanniers... Puis, on aperçoit la mosquée de la Koutoubia, majestueuse et élégante, la plus grande de la ville, nous a-t-on dit! On découvre bientôt la célèbre place Djema El F'Na, plus gande que je l'avais imaginé, colorée, avec ses marchands de fruits secs, de jus d'oranges, ses charmeurs de serpents... Avant de s'aventurer dans le souk, on décide de manger au resto-grill El Bahaj.Très bonnes grillades pour une poignée de dh. Et on se perd dans le souk, il est très facile de s'y perdre, mais on a notre plan, tout va bien.On passe du quartier des babouches à celui de la mercerie, puis celui des bijoutiers, des dinandiers... C'est immense!Il y a des quantités de marchandises de toutes sortes! Fatigués, on prend le bus numéro pour rentrer!
Dès le lendemain, à 9h, la voiture est là, devant l'hôtel et vers 10h on quitte Marrakech pour aller directement voir les cascades d'Ouzoud.Après un petit tour au-dessus des cascades on déjeune au Titrite, très bon et très gentil.Bien retapés on descend voir les cascades, c'est grandiose, c'est magnifique, impressionnant...En remontant, on fait une petite pause dans un bar pour profiter de la vue et souffler un peu.
Nuit au camping Zébra!Très bien!Très propre!
Et après un petit déjeuner pris au soleil, on s'en va voir l'arche d'IMINIFRI.C'est beau aussi mais quand on a vu les cascades, on trouve que c'est plus banal!
Et très on vite on reprend la route 307, route splendide mais plutôt délabrée!Le goudron est souvent absent, les nids de poule sont énormes mais le paysage est exceptionnel!Les arrêts-photos se multiplient!
Après des kilomètres un peu difficiles, on fait notre entrée à Skoura dans la soirée.Il est temps, la nuit tombe déjà... On va aussitôt au gîte de La Palmeraie.On fait la connaissance de toute la famille autour du thé et des amandes du jardin.Un bon tajine, du fromage de chèvre au miel, des grenades du jardin et une bonne nuit... Au petit déjeuner du lendemain, une surprise nous attend, un énorme pain tout chaud, tout croustillant, fait maison, dans le four du jardin...Trop bon...Avec des crêpes-maison en plus....Petit déjeuner pantagruélique!
Après ça, on a besoin de se dépenser, Mohamed nous accompagne aux gorges de Sidi Fla...L'oued Dadès y circule entre les roches noires.C'est vraiment superbe!
L'après-midi, on fait un tour dans la palmeraie, c'est tranquille, c'est beau!
Et le soir, tout le monde est réuni autour d'un grand couscous délicieusement parfumé et servi avec du lait "ribot", du petit lait!C'est un festin! On en profite pour échanger conseils de visite et bonnes adresses avec les vacanciers présents ce soir-là.Ils reviennent de Merzouga et nous disent tout le plaisir qu'ils ont eu dans le désert et au bivouac organisé par l'auberge Camel house.On retient l'adresse...
Après une bonne nuit, un petit déjeuner servi sur la terrasse, face à la montagne, on décide d'aller voir la vallée des amandiers et là encore on est époustouflés par la beauté des paysages, par les couleurs et par les roches.On en prend plein les yeux!
Et le soir, on participe à la préparation du tajine sous les conseils de Ghizlane, espiègle et charmante.Et on est plutôt satisfaits du résultat!
On prend congé de Mohamed et des siens le lendemain, après le petit déjeuner, après avoir dévoré le pain géant de la maison.Mohamed tient absolument à nettoyer la voiture avant notre départ, il nous réserve notre nuit au bivouac, on y sera attendus dans 2 jours, le temps de faire un tour dans les gorges de Dadès.
Belle route pour se rendre dans la vallée du Dadès, route nouvellement bitumée... On s'arrête en bordure de route, dans une petite auberge conseillée sur les forums.Accueil très sympa d'Hassan qui fait le maximum pour nous faire plaisir mais l'auberge est triste et froide.En revanche, le site est splendide.Les " pattes de singes sont surprenantes", les formes sculptées dans les roches par l'érosion sont étonnantes.
Et on quitte les rives du Dadès pour filer vers le désert.La route se fait bien.On est attendus au Camel house.L'accueil est charmant.Le bivouac est prévu et le départ se fait rapidement.On monte chacun sur notre dromadaire, pas très fiers au début et puis on se détend au fil des minutes.On se laisse gagner par la magie du désert, parce que c'est vraiment magique...Une bonne heure de promenade à travers les dunes et on atteint le bivouac, plutôt confortable (on a même des draps)...On prend plaisir à marcher dans le sable d'une finesse extraordinaire et on attend tranquillement le coucher du soleil...Moment magique!Excellent tajine précédé d'une soupe harira et suivi de fruits.Animation, musique berbère!Et bonne nuit de sommeil, au calme!
Le lendemain matin, sitôt levés, on profite du lever du soleil et on regagne la maison d'hôtes pour y petit déjeuner tranquillement avant de reprendre la voiture pour Tinéghir.Cette découverte du désert est un grand moment de ces vacances.
A Tinéghir, on pense aller à Todra-Panorama, jolie auberge qui nous a été conseillée, mais c'est trop cher...On va coucher plus loin dans les gorges, chez Valentine, c'est mignon aussi et les prix sont raisonnables.Notre chambre donne sur la palmeraie, c'est agréable.On fait une belle promenade dans les gorges et même au-delà dans les jardins.C'est très joli aussi!Quelques groupes escaladent les parois des gorges, c'est tout un spectacle!Et promenade dans la palmeraie de Tinéghir.
Sur la route du retour vers Skoura, on fait un crochet vers la vallée des roses!Là encore, les paysages sont extraordinaires, les oueds géants, les anciennes kasbahs ont encore fière allure même si elles sont menacées de disparaître rapidement!
Et on retrouve Skoura, la famille de Mohamed et la palmeraie. Le coucher de soleil depuis la terrasse embrase toute la palmeraie.
Et l'arc en ciel nous a bien épatés aussi!
Et puis c'est le retour à Marrakech pour visiter les incontournables:jardin Majorelle, médersa;médina, palais et à nouveau les souks et encore les souks tous plus colorés les uns que les autres!
Voilà l'essentiel d'un voyage de 2 jolies petites semaines au Maroc. Sitôt fini, j'ai déjà le sentiment d'avoir oublié de parler de tout un tas de choses:le souk, les gens, les couleurs, les odeurs, la vie....MAIS... On sait déjà qu'on y retournera!!
Voir les photos sur la discussion 1er voyage au Maroc
Bonjour
Marrakech s'écris Marrakech "kech" est réducteur comme je l'ai vu de"zazatte" pour Ouarzazate que diriez vous si pour Bastia : "Baste" pour Ajaccio : "Ajax" ?
Cordialement
«Voyager sans rencontrer l’autre, ce n’est pas voyager, c’est se déplacer»
Alexandra David Neel
Merci Danielle d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre avec les détails;
alors ça me donne trop envie maintenant;
j'espère qu'en février on aura de belles conditions météo
j'ai plusieurs questions : - combien de temps en bus entre l'aéroport et l'hôtel ? - Quel hôtel avez vous choisi à Marrakech ? - Avez vous fait un hamman ? sinon c'est seulement dans les grands hôtels ? - Où trouver un plan de Marrakech ? quand vous arrivez à l'aéroport ? - Avez vous fait du change ou retrait dans un DAB ? - Avez vous louer une voiture à Marrakech et quel budget s'attendre ? - Avez vous le contact de Mohamed votre guide ? - Etes vous aller à Ouarzazate ?
Merciiii pour tout Cordialement
j'ai plusieurs questions : - combien de temps en bus entre l'aéroport et l'hôtel ? - Quel hôtel avez vous choisi à Marrakech ? - Avez vous fait un hamman ? sinon c'est seulement dans les grands hôtels ? - Où trouver un plan de Marrakech ? quand vous arrivez à l'aéroport ? - Avez vous fait du change ou retrait dans un DAB ? - Avez vous louer une voiture à Marrakech et quel budget s'attendre ? - Avez vous le contact de Mohamed votre guide ? - Etes vous aller à Ouarzazate ?
Merciiii pour tout Cordialement
carpediem
Entre l'aéroport et le centre ville, il faut compter un petit quart d'heure, tout dépend bien sûr de la circulation.
On était descendus à l'hôtel Toulousain, le bus nous avait laissé à 3min de l'hôtel, à pied.Pas de hammam à l'hôtel.
Pour le plan de Marrakech, on utilisait les plans du guide routard. Suffisant pour nous.
On avait pris des euros qu'on échangeant au fil de nos besoins. Premier changé à l'aéroport. Plusieurs bureaux de change dans le grand hall.
On avait réservé notre voiture par mail avant de partir, autour de 20 euros par jour.
Notre guide pour visiter les gorges et les alentours de Skoura, c'était Mohamed, le propriétaire de la kasbah La palmeraie, expérimenté et plein d'humour, originaire de la ville, il est très compétent.
A Ouarzazate, on n'a pas séjourné, on n'a fait que passer.C'est une ville assez grande, mais une ville de passage, nous a-t-il semblé.Pas authentique, mais propre et nette.
Cordialement
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Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!