Toujours dans ma préparation de voyage pour cet été, nous pensons à ne pas séjourner sur Ouarzazate mais plutôt passer une nuit à Nkoub. Je pense que ce sera plus sympa.
Mais voila je ne sais si le car passe et s'arrête dans cette ville.
Pour ceux qui l'ont fait merci de vos retours, car j'ai un peut du mal à planifier.
Tu as été voir sur le site du bus que tu vas prendre ? Tu trouveras certainement toutes les étapes .
Sinon passer une nuit à Nkob semble une bonne idée , mais peut être ta fille auras t'elle envie de s'arrêter dans une ville pour faire un tour le soir ?
Il n'y a que supratours qui donne des infos, mais je crois en ayant essayé pleins de combinaisons qu'ils passent par la N10 au nord sdu jbel sharho et non non la N12 au sud pas grave donc on verra pour un truc dans la vallée du dades.
il y a skoura, boulmane dades ..et Kelaa m'gouna et la vallée des roses !!!( mais en été je ne sais pas) mais si tu peux me conseiller un hébergement éventuellement !! je prends.
Faire un tour le soir NAnnnn!!!! même en Europe elle ne fait pas car, il faut se lever tôt pour profiter.
Les hebergements que je connais seraient difficilement accessibles à pied .
Mais il me semblait que tu avais décidé de prendre un bus de nuit pour ne pas souffrir de la chaleur , si c'est possible ce serait nettement mieux .
Quand je dis sortir le soir , c'est faire un tour dans les souks et aller manger ensuite à la fraîche .
Moi aussi je me lève tôt , je n'aime pas trop traîner le matin , mais decouvrir tranquille une petite ville le soir je ne dit pas non, surtout avec la chaleur c'est le meilleur moment .
Justement j'ai regardé pour les bus ! c'est le départ à 13h de ouazazate et cela m'embête car il y en a d'autres surement mais sans savoir je ne peux planifier l’hébergement.
Car j'aurais voulu décoller de marrakech à 12 H ou 13 h... arriver à ouarzazate à 17 h et aller dormir à skoura ou kelaa m'gouna.
Pour le bus de nuit le seul que j'ai vu (sur internet) c'est merzouga-meknes/fes et je prendrais.
Pour sortir le soir je ne sais pas si dans le sud les commerces sont ouverts le soir dans les villages et je ne sais pas non plus à quelle heure le soleil se couche fin juillet. Mais on verra si elle ne m'épuise pas trop!
Si tu arrives à Ouarzazate vers 17 heures , comment compte tu rejoindre un Hebergement à Skoura sauf si le bus t'y dépose bien sûr' oublie Kelaa M'gouna , autant rester à Ouarzazate.
Tout est ouvert tard le soir au Maroc , surtout lorsqu'il fait chaud .
encore une petite question pour toi
Tu as déjà atterri à rabat avec bagage en soute ?
Penses tu réalisable d'arriver à 17h05 et prendre un train pour marrakech à 17h45 ou 19h45
A ton avis dans ce cas 1ère ou ,2nd classe ? en journée ce serait 1ère pour la clim
Arrivée au mieux à 22h10 sinon 00h10
A plus de minuit on peut encore se rendre sur la place Jma elfna ?
Je n'ai jamais atterri à Rabat , juste à Casa et de fait je ne peux pas te répondre .
Mais il me semble que ce seras plutôt le deuxième train .
Pour jeema el fna ce seras encore animé à minuit , nous sommes en ete .
Bon , lache prise un peu et prend les choses comme elles arrivent, sinon tu vas te mettre en mode " j'angoisse 😕" ....
Bonne soirée
Non, le bus supratours que fait le trajet Marrakech-Merzouga ne passe pas par N'Kob.
Il passe par Ouarzazate, Tineghir, Tinejdad, Er Rachidia, Erfoud, Rissani, Merzouga (avec d'autres arrêts sur cette route).
Si tu passes une nuit sur cette route, tu n'est pas obligée de partir de Marrakech avec Supratour. Il y a énormément de bus qui vont de Marrakech à ErRachidia. L'intérêt de supratours, c'est qu'il est le seul à aller à Merzouga.
Comme arrêts faciles sur cette route (sans avoir besoin de faire des km après la descente du bus), il y a Kelaa m'Gouna, Tineghir, Goulmima (Hannah a des bons plans je crois ;-) ).
Il y aussi Skoura, sauf avec Supratours (qui ne s'y arrête pas).
Pour la vallée du Dades, il faut prendre une navette près de la mosquée à Boumalne. Je n'en connais pas bien le fonctionnement. Je sais qu'il y en a facilement vers midi-14h les jours de souk (encore que, en été, je sais pas. et ça peut être assez galère pour revenir de la vallée vers Boumalne si tu ne pars pas tôt le matin où il y a de nombreux grands taxis et fourgons qui sillonnent dans la vallée).
Impossible si tu atterris à 17h de prendre le train de 17h 45
Si tu arrives à Marrakech à 00h10, le temps de te rendre en medina et à ton hôtel, c'est râté pour la Place Jemaa El Fna
Les bus CTM s'arrête à Skoura , mais je n'ai pas les horaires ; il y a un bureau CTM à Skoura dans un hôtel-restaurant (où on mange très bien ( ah leur fromage de chèvre, j'en rêve) ; le bus fait un stop là
Sinon , de Ouarzazate à Skoura, tu peux prendre un taxi collectif pas cher s'il est partagé , si vous le prenez pour vous seules , ce doit être de mémoire dans les 100/120 dhs ( après négociation )
Ne pas faire de fixation sur Supratours; il y a une multitude de transports au Maroc ; se renseigner au fur et à mesure auprès des aubergistes !
Soyez cool ; il y a toujours des solutions et les gens vous renseigneront
A part Marrakech, inutile de réserver : il y a toujours plus de places que de clients, surtout en été! Laissez vous aller......On ne peut pas organiser un voyage au maroc entièrement depuis la France
Ben non Murielle je n'ai pas de bons plans à Goulmima .
Ah zut !
J'ai souvenir d'une discussion à ce sujet, ouverte par un-e habitué-e habitué-e de ce forum, et je croyais me rappeler que c'était toi...
Bon. Je viens de faire quelques recherches, et je ne retrouve plus trace de cette discussion (enthousiaste et enthousiasmante dans mon souvenir - ça m'avait donné envie d'y aller !)... ben j'ai dû rêvé ! pppfff :-/
Je te remercie pour ces précisions.
Je reconnais ma fixette sur supratours mais ce sont les seuls avec lesquels on à l'info sur internet
Et c'est vrai que je me cale que sur leurs horaires c'est un peut con 🤪
Pour l'hôtel j'ai choisi l'ibis gare .... pas très glamour mais pratique. Parce que galérer à minuit dans une ville que je ne connais pas ......ça va m'exciter!😠
Et concernant les réservations cela me rassure ... cela permettra d'être plus Zen
Je prends les devants car je n'ai pas envie de passer des heures à chercher le transport du lendemain.
Ne te prends pas la tête sur ce trajet-là (de Marrakech à Rissani). Tu trouves des moyens de transports en commun en permanence. Si un bus viens de partir, il y en a un autre dans l'heure, voire la demi-heure (et sans parler des grands taxis) !
Je voyage presque toujours en transports en commun au Maroc, et ce trajet-là ne pose aucun problème (contrairement à d'autres).
Quant aux résa d'hébergement, idem : il y aura pas foule de ce côté-là en plein été. Perso, Par sécu, j'appelle le matin pour le soir. ça suffit toujours (même à Marrakech depuis quelques années).
Tu as juste 3 points de vigilance à avoir en tête :
-il y a un seul bus (supratours) de Rissani à Merzouga (vers 19h ~ 19h30 à Rissani)
-ne pas t'étonner que les transports en commun passent par Er Rachidia, alors qu'il y a une route directe de Tinejdad à Erfoud (un seul bus/par jour passe par ce raccourci, dans l'après-midi je crois).
-les taxis ne se remplissent pas vite en pleine journée en été.
C'était moi dans mon carnet de mai peut être , mais au niveau Hebergement pas de bon plans j'étais chez un copain .
voyageforum.com/...ouf-soleil-d7509885/
La visite du Ksar et de cette belle palmeraie c'est sur que c'est un lieu tranquille que j'aime beaucoup .
Bises
Ah ouf ! ça me rassure, je délire pas totalement ;-)
Mais oui, c'est vrai que ça ne dit rien sur les hébergements.
Il n'y a rien sur les hebergements , mais je me rappelle ce couple qui lavait dans la palmeraie et c'était le mari qui effectuait cette tâche, que du bonheur 😉😉
Je désire me rendre a Marrakech ou ailleur avec ma moitié et je suis déja allé au Cameroun par le biais d'une association et c'etais génial car pas le truc…
Je prépare un voyage de 7 jours à Marrakech pour participer à un camp sportif et je voyagerai uniquement avec un sac à dos cabine standard. J'aimerais…
Mi-mai: en arrivant (seul, donc, "petit taxi"?) à l'aéroport de Marrakech vers 16h30, est-il conseillé de prendre un taxi à l'aéroport (coût?) ou bien est-il…
Préambule:. Il ne s’agit pas ici de faire de la retape pour une nouvelle activité professionnelle mais de relater, sous la pression de Vfistes impatients…
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.