Hi there,
For our trip to Chile in November, we rented a car from Europcar for our stop in San Pedro de Atacama. We’ll pick up the car at Calama Airport and return it to the agency in San Pedro. We made the reservation through Rentalcars.
The problem is, I just noticed on the booking that it says in the "what you’ll need when picking up the vehicle" section:
"Credit card: The card must have sufficient available funds to cover the excess/deposit (which will be blocked on the card for the duration of the rental)."
And then it’s written in red: "Cash payments and debit cards are not accepted."
The thing is, we don’t have a credit card—just debit cards (which, by the way, is the case for most people; we just mistakenly call them "credit cards" when they’re actually "debit cards").
I’ve seen cases where the rental company forced people to purchase additional insurance if they didn’t provide a credit card for the deposit, but that was in European countries, and I haven’t found much info about Chile.
Has anyone else run into this issue with Europcar in Calama?
Do you know if they can refuse to give us the car if we don’t have a credit card for the deposit? Just to note, the rental payment has already been debited, and we’ve opted for the "Full Protection" insurance offered by Rentalcars.
If they force us to take extra insurance, will it be something beyond this full protection?
Thanks for any insights...
Bonjour,
Il n'est jamais trop tard pour rendre compte de son voyage. Le confinement me laisse enfin du temps pour le faire.
Je suis parti le 17 août 2017 et je suis rentré le 7 février 2018. Entre temps, je suis allé en Argentine par cargo puis une fois sur ce continent, j'ai visité l'Uruguay, l'Argentine et le Chili.
Durant tout ce voyage, j'ai tenu un carnet journalier.
Je me propose de vous le livrer.
Bonjour,
Une hausse des tarifs de transport en début du mois a provoqué de nombreuses manifestations plus ou moins spontanées dans le métro de Santiago.
Le phénomène a pris de l'ampleur et des pillages de grandes surfaces ont maintenant eu lieu aussi.
L'État d'Urgence a été déclaré, pour le moment, UNIQUEMENT EN CE QUI CONCERNE LA RÉGION MÉTROPOLITAINE, càd Santiago et les environs immédiats.
Mais. des manifestations ont actuellement lieu dans d'autres villes du Chili et la situation pourrait empirer encore.
La situation s'est fort dégradée ces dernières heures.
Restez particulièrement attentifs.
Bonne chance.
Thierry
Une hausse des tarifs de transport en début du mois a provoqué de nombreuses manifestations plus ou moins spontanées dans le métro de Santiago.
Le phénomène a pris de l'ampleur et des pillages de grandes surfaces ont maintenant eu lieu aussi.
L'État d'Urgence a été déclaré, pour le moment, UNIQUEMENT EN CE QUI CONCERNE LA RÉGION MÉTROPOLITAINE, càd Santiago et les environs immédiats.
Mais. des manifestations ont actuellement lieu dans d'autres villes du Chili et la situation pourrait empirer encore.
La situation s'est fort dégradée ces dernières heures.
Restez particulièrement attentifs.
Bonne chance.
Thierry
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Bonjour à tous,
Je vais passer des vacances en famille au Pérou et quelques jours dans la cordière blanche.
Nous désirons faire quelques bivouacs. Nous hésitons à emmener le notre pour pour quelques jours seulement.
Connaissez-vous des 'agences' qui loueraient du matériel de qualité?
Amicalement Eric
Je vais passer des vacances en famille au Pérou et quelques jours dans la cordière blanche.
Nous désirons faire quelques bivouacs. Nous hésitons à emmener le notre pour pour quelques jours seulement.
Connaissez-vous des 'agences' qui loueraient du matériel de qualité?
Amicalement Eric
Bonjour , nous partons mon mari et moi très bientôt au Pérou pour plusieurs semaines ; y a t il quelqu un qui aurait loué très récemment une voiture à Chachapoyas ?
Les forums que j’ai lu sont trop anciens !
Merci
Solange Varenne
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hello,
For our trip in September 2025 from mid-September to early October (3 weeks), we’ve planned 8 days in San Pedro, then a transit night in Santiago, 8 days in Chilean Patagonia, and 3 days for Santiago/Valparaíso before heading back. Is it possible to easily explore with a rental car from a lodge based in Puerto Natales, including visiting Torres del Paine National Park? Or does that mean too much driving in a day, or would it be better to plan an overnight stay in the park or nearby?
We applied for our international driver’s permit in January 2025 for September, hoping to get it in time—I checked the forum about this. Regarding the car rental, do we really need a credit card (not debit) in the main driver’s name for the deposit?
How far in advance should we book entry tickets to the national parks for this period?
Best regards,
Odile
For our trip in September 2025 from mid-September to early October (3 weeks), we’ve planned 8 days in San Pedro, then a transit night in Santiago, 8 days in Chilean Patagonia, and 3 days for Santiago/Valparaíso before heading back. Is it possible to easily explore with a rental car from a lodge based in Puerto Natales, including visiting Torres del Paine National Park? Or does that mean too much driving in a day, or would it be better to plan an overnight stay in the park or nearby?
We applied for our international driver’s permit in January 2025 for September, hoping to get it in time—I checked the forum about this. Regarding the car rental, do we really need a credit card (not debit) in the main driver’s name for the deposit?
How far in advance should we book entry tickets to the national parks for this period?
Best regards,
Odile
Bonjour à tous,
Je suis actuellement en train de préparer un voyage de 2 à 3 semaines en Amérique Latine. Nous hésitons encore mais ca sera certainement le Pérou. Nous serons 3, ma femme notre fille (qui aura 4 ans) et moi.
Nous ne voulons pas de grand hotel ..., nous c'est minimum de confort, rencontre et dépaysement.😉
L'itinéraire n'est pas encore défini mais dans les grandes lignes : - Lima - Paracas - Iles Ballestas - Nazca - Arequipa - Puno - Ile de Taquile - Cusco - Agua Caliente - Retour Cusco - retour Lima depuis Cusco
Alors pour cela je me suis fait aidé par une agence de voyage local ...
Par contre je trouve ca super cher, 1500 €/pers (donc x3), avec bien entendu les nuits d'hotel comprisent, les transferts en bus ou avec chauffeur, certains guides et entrées ...
Je me demande si ca ne reviendrai pas moins cher de me débrouiller par moi même. Est il possible d'adapter le voyage avec une voiture de location ? faire du airbnb (ou chez habitant) ...???
De plus avec une petite de 4 ans ca risque d'être compliqué des x heur en bus ...
Voila je prends toute information car nous souhaitons être les plus autonome possible. Merci
Je suis actuellement en train de préparer un voyage de 2 à 3 semaines en Amérique Latine. Nous hésitons encore mais ca sera certainement le Pérou. Nous serons 3, ma femme notre fille (qui aura 4 ans) et moi.
Nous ne voulons pas de grand hotel ..., nous c'est minimum de confort, rencontre et dépaysement.😉
L'itinéraire n'est pas encore défini mais dans les grandes lignes : - Lima - Paracas - Iles Ballestas - Nazca - Arequipa - Puno - Ile de Taquile - Cusco - Agua Caliente - Retour Cusco - retour Lima depuis Cusco
Alors pour cela je me suis fait aidé par une agence de voyage local ...
Par contre je trouve ca super cher, 1500 €/pers (donc x3), avec bien entendu les nuits d'hotel comprisent, les transferts en bus ou avec chauffeur, certains guides et entrées ...
Je me demande si ca ne reviendrai pas moins cher de me débrouiller par moi même. Est il possible d'adapter le voyage avec une voiture de location ? faire du airbnb (ou chez habitant) ...???
De plus avec une petite de 4 ans ca risque d'être compliqué des x heur en bus ...
Voila je prends toute information car nous souhaitons être les plus autonome possible. Merci
Bonjour peut on traverser la frontière entre bolivie et chili .
Je souhaite prendre une voiture à lima et la rendre à Santiago.... est ce possible ou restriction par pays ?
Merci bcp
bonjour à tous
je compte me rendre au chili en janvier février . y a t'il des problèmes de sécurité en ce moment compte tenu des évènements actuels; est ce que ça craint, ?
je précise que je voyage seul en voiture de location essentiellement dans le pays profond et peu dans les grandes villes;
merci à tous
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Easter Island in January for 8 days.
We’d love any tips—
-bike or scooter rental?
-hikes on foot
-activities like kayaking or snorkeling
-must-visit spots
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Chile and Argentina for 4 weeks (Atacama Desert, Easter Island, and Chilean and Argentine Patagonia).
For Patagonia, our itinerary (rental car) is as follows:
1 night in Puerto Natales
2 nights in Torres del Paine.
Then we’ll drive back up to El Chaltén, where we’ll spend 3 nights (fingers crossed the weather lets us do the two hikes we’ve planned). After that, we’re off to El Calafate for 2 nights (Perito Moreno Glacier). Our last day and night in Argentina will be spent at an estancia (Nibepo Aike). This is where I’m wondering: We have to drive in one day from the estancia (1.5 hours of dirt road from El Calafate) all the way to Punta Arenas. On paper, it seems doable. But what’s it like in reality? Is it too long? Thanks for your thoughts and advice—I hope I’ve been clear. Pilar
Then we’ll drive back up to El Chaltén, where we’ll spend 3 nights (fingers crossed the weather lets us do the two hikes we’ve planned). After that, we’re off to El Calafate for 2 nights (Perito Moreno Glacier). Our last day and night in Argentina will be spent at an estancia (Nibepo Aike). This is where I’m wondering: We have to drive in one day from the estancia (1.5 hours of dirt road from El Calafate) all the way to Punta Arenas. On paper, it seems doable. But what’s it like in reality? Is it too long? Thanks for your thoughts and advice—I hope I’ve been clear. Pilar
Hello,
I’ve planned a 3.5-week trip to Chile in February/March 2025, with the goal of driving the Carretera Austral from Puerto Montt to Caleta Tortel in a rented 4x4. The itinerary is set, accommodations are booked, and the 4x4 is reserved. We could still tweak things a bit, but it’s getting harder to find available lodging in some spots.
Here’s the planned route: - 1 night in Puerto Montt on arrival day - 2 nights in Castro (Chiloé Island) - 2 nights near Ensenada - 1 night in Horniporén - 1 night in Chaitén - 3 nights in Puyuhuapi - 2 nights in Coyhaique - 3 nights between Puerto Bertrand and Cochrane - 2 nights in Caleta Tortel - 3 nights in Puerto Guadal - 1 night in Chile Chico (to take the ferry across the lake) - 1 night in Villa Cerro Castillo before flying out from Balmaceda
I have a few questions about the activities we’d like to do:
The **Marble Caves**: I’d love an option that lets us "go inside" them. From what I’ve read, this depends on the water level, wind, and type of boat. Any tips or advice? We’d like to do an **excursion to see condors**. We were thinking of doing this while in Coyhaique (we’re staying 2 nights). Has anyone done this? With which agency? We’re spending 3 nights between Puerto Bertrand and Cochrane. The idea is to **explore the vast Patagonia Park and its wildlife**. But I’m not sure where to start. Any recommendations for day hikes or itineraries? I read somewhere that you can do a day trip with a guide that includes a boat ride on Lake Cochrane, but I can’t find the booking info. An agency for **glacier exploration** (we were thinking of **Lake Leones Glacier**). I contacted Ruta León but haven’t heard back. Any agencies to recommend?
Thanks so much! Pascale
I’ve planned a 3.5-week trip to Chile in February/March 2025, with the goal of driving the Carretera Austral from Puerto Montt to Caleta Tortel in a rented 4x4. The itinerary is set, accommodations are booked, and the 4x4 is reserved. We could still tweak things a bit, but it’s getting harder to find available lodging in some spots.
Here’s the planned route: - 1 night in Puerto Montt on arrival day - 2 nights in Castro (Chiloé Island) - 2 nights near Ensenada - 1 night in Horniporén - 1 night in Chaitén - 3 nights in Puyuhuapi - 2 nights in Coyhaique - 3 nights between Puerto Bertrand and Cochrane - 2 nights in Caleta Tortel - 3 nights in Puerto Guadal - 1 night in Chile Chico (to take the ferry across the lake) - 1 night in Villa Cerro Castillo before flying out from Balmaceda
I have a few questions about the activities we’d like to do:
The **Marble Caves**: I’d love an option that lets us "go inside" them. From what I’ve read, this depends on the water level, wind, and type of boat. Any tips or advice? We’d like to do an **excursion to see condors**. We were thinking of doing this while in Coyhaique (we’re staying 2 nights). Has anyone done this? With which agency? We’re spending 3 nights between Puerto Bertrand and Cochrane. The idea is to **explore the vast Patagonia Park and its wildlife**. But I’m not sure where to start. Any recommendations for day hikes or itineraries? I read somewhere that you can do a day trip with a guide that includes a boat ride on Lake Cochrane, but I can’t find the booking info. An agency for **glacier exploration** (we were thinking of **Lake Leones Glacier**). I contacted Ruta León but haven’t heard back. Any agencies to recommend?
Thanks so much! Pascale
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to southern Chile in November. Here's our tentative itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in Santiago, then a flight the next day to Balmaceda where we'll pick up a rental car to reach Coyhaique.
Day 3: Walk in the Coyhaique National Reserve, then continue to Puerto Chacabuco. Return to Coyhaique for the second night.
Day 4: Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo for a hike in the national park. Continue to Puerto Tranquilo and stay there for 3 nights.
Day 5: Boat tour on Laguna San Rafael.
Day 6: Day trip to Monte San Valentin Glacier.
Day 7: Excursion to the Marble Chapels, then drive to Puerto Guadal. We'll stay there for 3 nights.
Day 8: Walk along Lago Carrera and return to Puerto Guadal.
Day 9: Rio Baker Valley and, if possible, a glacier excursion.
Day 10: Drive to Cochrane and hike in Tamango National Reserve. We'll stay 2 nights in Cochrane.
Day 11: Walk in the Chacabuco Valley.
Day 12: Drive to Caleta Tortel. We'll stay there for 2 nights.
Day 13: Cruise in the Rio Baker delta.
Day 14: Return to Cochrane.
Day 15: Return to Balmaceda in two stages.
Day 16: Continue the return journey.
Day 17: Return the rental car and head back to Santiago.
After this, we're also planning to explore northern Santiago. I'll post about that part once I have a clearer idea of the route.
What do you think of this itinerary? Is it doable in 17 days? Thanks in advance for your tips and recommendations. martine
After this, we're also planning to explore northern Santiago. I'll post about that part once I have a clearer idea of the route.
What do you think of this itinerary? Is it doable in 17 days? Thanks in advance for your tips and recommendations. martine
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Hi there,
I’m about to fulfill a dream that includes a trip to Patagonia between October and December 2026. I’ll be traveling solo.
My plan: - Take a boat from Puerto Montt to Puerto Natales (4-5 days) - Torres del Paine National Park (2-3 days) - Bus from Puerto Natales to Ushuaïa (1-2 days) - Exploring around Ushuaïa (3-4 days) - Cruise from Ushuaïa to Punta Arenas (Oct 31 - Nov 4) - Rent a vehicle and head back up to Puerto Montt by around December 10, which is about 35 days total, via Los Glaciares, El Chaltén, Patagonia NP, Caleta Tortel, Villa O’Higgins, Puerto Río Tranquilo, Bahía Exploradores, Cerro Castillo NP, Coyhaique, Queulat NP, Chaitén, Pumalín NP, and Hornopirén NP.
My goal is to enjoy nature and do some hiking.
I’ll be in Torres del Paine around October 20—is the weather manageable for day hikes at that time?
30-35 days from Punta Arenas to Puerto Montt? That’s about 3,600 km. Is this timeframe doable to enjoy the scenery without rushing? If I arrive in the north earlier, it’s no big deal—I’ll just explore more spots above Puerto Montt.
Now, about the vehicle... I’m torn between a car + tent (regular car with a tent on top) and a small van. Is this enough for the Carretera Austral or unpaved roads? Or would a 4x4 be better? I’m not an experienced 4x4 driver—I’ve only driven occasionally to give the main driver a break on easy sections. A van is tempting for the comfort. Are there any rental options for slightly modified cars or ones where you can sleep, like a Kangoo?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on my itinerary and advice on the vehicle!
I’m about to fulfill a dream that includes a trip to Patagonia between October and December 2026. I’ll be traveling solo.
My plan: - Take a boat from Puerto Montt to Puerto Natales (4-5 days) - Torres del Paine National Park (2-3 days) - Bus from Puerto Natales to Ushuaïa (1-2 days) - Exploring around Ushuaïa (3-4 days) - Cruise from Ushuaïa to Punta Arenas (Oct 31 - Nov 4) - Rent a vehicle and head back up to Puerto Montt by around December 10, which is about 35 days total, via Los Glaciares, El Chaltén, Patagonia NP, Caleta Tortel, Villa O’Higgins, Puerto Río Tranquilo, Bahía Exploradores, Cerro Castillo NP, Coyhaique, Queulat NP, Chaitén, Pumalín NP, and Hornopirén NP.
My goal is to enjoy nature and do some hiking.
I’ll be in Torres del Paine around October 20—is the weather manageable for day hikes at that time?
30-35 days from Punta Arenas to Puerto Montt? That’s about 3,600 km. Is this timeframe doable to enjoy the scenery without rushing? If I arrive in the north earlier, it’s no big deal—I’ll just explore more spots above Puerto Montt.
Now, about the vehicle... I’m torn between a car + tent (regular car with a tent on top) and a small van. Is this enough for the Carretera Austral or unpaved roads? Or would a 4x4 be better? I’m not an experienced 4x4 driver—I’ve only driven occasionally to give the main driver a break on easy sections. A van is tempting for the comfort. Are there any rental options for slightly modified cars or ones where you can sleep, like a Kangoo?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on my itinerary and advice on the vehicle!
Hi! We’re planning to spend a month (February or March 2026) in southern Chile, starting from Santiago (Lake District, Torres del Paine Park, Punta Arenas).
Can we do this itinerary by car, or do we need to take internal flights?
Has anyone done this trip and can give us some tips?
Thanks!
Fabienne and Jérôme
Bonjour,
Je prépare un séjour en Patagonie pour 2021. Pour organiser mes différents points de chute, il faut en même temps prévoir les déplacements que nous ferons majoritairement en bus.
Y a-t'il un site fiable donnant les trajets bus au Chili et Argentine ?
Les locations voitures existent-elles que dans les grandes villes ou peut-on en trouver à Chaiten au Chili par exemple ?
Merci Milaure
Nous venons de revenir du chili un peu fatigués par le rythme mais c'était un voyage exceptionnel!!! Arrivée à Santiago puis départ pour Puerto Natales pour aller aux glaciers (bateau) et au Parc Torres del Paine. A Puerto Natales, le temps ne nous permettait pas de faire la balade en bateau aux glaciers prévue le premier jour mais notre guide nous a emmené à la grotte du Milaudon ce qui nous a permis de faire le lendemain très tôt le parc national et de revenir pour prendre le bateau à15h30 . Donc, on a tout fait avec le beau temps et c'était magnifique! Retour à Santiago puis Valparaiso. Enfin San Pedro de Atacama et ses merveilles.Terminer par 3 jours à l'île de Pâques est parfait car cela permet de se reposer tout en visitant les sites magnifiques et même de se baigner dans une eau chaude😎
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons au Chili - Bolivie - Ile de Pâques en février 2020. Nous aurons 8 jours dans la région de SPA & Sud Lipez avant de retourner à Santiago puis sur l'ïle de Pâques.
Nous arrivons à l'aéroport de Calama puis pensions faire 4 jours à SPA pour faire les différents sites puis 4 jours en Bolivie avec une agence (obligatoire a priori). Que me conseillez-vous ? De louer une voiture pour visiter les sites de SPA ou de le faire avec des tours organisés ? Si location de voiture, faut-il la louer à Calama ou à SPA ? Sachant que nous ne pourrons pas l'utiliser pendant l'excursion bolivienne ?
merci pour vos conseils Eva
Nous partons au Chili - Bolivie - Ile de Pâques en février 2020. Nous aurons 8 jours dans la région de SPA & Sud Lipez avant de retourner à Santiago puis sur l'ïle de Pâques.
Nous arrivons à l'aéroport de Calama puis pensions faire 4 jours à SPA pour faire les différents sites puis 4 jours en Bolivie avec une agence (obligatoire a priori). Que me conseillez-vous ? De louer une voiture pour visiter les sites de SPA ou de le faire avec des tours organisés ? Si location de voiture, faut-il la louer à Calama ou à SPA ? Sachant que nous ne pourrons pas l'utiliser pendant l'excursion bolivienne ?
merci pour vos conseils Eva
Je suis au Pérou cuzco je pars après demain pour le Machu Picchu
Je me pose des questions pour la suite
J avais réservé à puno puis Copacabana la Paz et Uyuni
Mais je suis sceptique
La Paz ça ne me tente plus sauf peut être sucré
Et sur le lac j aimerai avoir une jolie expérience , certains vont dans des îles où ils vivent chez l habitant
Je peux annuler les réservations
Merci de vos précieux conseils
Bonjour à tous,
Nous sommes un couple de retraités qui envisage de visiter le nord du Pérou (après avoir découvert le Sud en 2014) en individuel et si possible, sans passer par agence. Nous avons fait une première ébauche de circuit qui pourrait être le suivant :
Jour 1 et 2 Lima puis bus de nuit sur Chiclayo. Là, nous aimerions louer une voiture pour être autonome Jour 3 visite des environs de Chiclayo – Nuit Chiclayo Jour 4 Route sur Bagua Grande par Cutervo – Nuit Bagua Grande Jour 5 Continuation sur Chachapoyas Jour 6 Chachapoyas – 2 nuits Jour 7 Route sur Cajamarca Jour 8 Cajamarca – Kuelap – 2 nuits à Cajamarca Jour 9 Retour sur Chiclayo – restitution du véhicule – Nuit Chiclayo Jour 10 Bus sur Trujillo (3h30) Jour 11 Trujillo – Chan Chan – Huaca Esmeralda … - 2 nuits Trujillo Jour 12 Bus sur Chimbote (2h30) – Location de voiture - Départ sur Huaraz par Casma – Nuit à Huaraz Jour 13 Canon del Pato – Nuit Huaraz (2) Jour 14 Retour sur Chimbote – Restitution du véhicule – nuit Chimbote Jour 15 Chimbote/Lima en bus (7 h) – Nuit à Lima Jour 16 Location de voiture à Lima – trajet sur Tarma – nuit Tarma Jour 17 Route sur Huancayo – nuit Huancayo Jour 18 Route sur San Vicente de Canete Jour 19 Journée plage – 2 nuits à San Vicente Jour 20 Route sur Lima – restitution du véhicule – Nuit Lima Jour 21 Lima / Pisco en bus ou avion ? Jour 22 Réserve naturelle de Paracas – Islas Ballestas – nuit Pisco Jour 23 Pisco / Nazca en bus ou avion ? Jour 24 et 25 Nazca – Ica – 3 nuits à Nazca Jour 26 Nazca/Lima en avion ou bus ? Jour 27 et 28 Lima Jour 29 Retour sur Paris
Selon vous, est-ce réaliste ? Si oui, quelle est la meilleure période pour ce périple ? Nous avions pensé à mai.
Merci de vos conseils avisés.
martine
Nous sommes un couple de retraités qui envisage de visiter le nord du Pérou (après avoir découvert le Sud en 2014) en individuel et si possible, sans passer par agence. Nous avons fait une première ébauche de circuit qui pourrait être le suivant :
Jour 1 et 2 Lima puis bus de nuit sur Chiclayo. Là, nous aimerions louer une voiture pour être autonome Jour 3 visite des environs de Chiclayo – Nuit Chiclayo Jour 4 Route sur Bagua Grande par Cutervo – Nuit Bagua Grande Jour 5 Continuation sur Chachapoyas Jour 6 Chachapoyas – 2 nuits Jour 7 Route sur Cajamarca Jour 8 Cajamarca – Kuelap – 2 nuits à Cajamarca Jour 9 Retour sur Chiclayo – restitution du véhicule – Nuit Chiclayo Jour 10 Bus sur Trujillo (3h30) Jour 11 Trujillo – Chan Chan – Huaca Esmeralda … - 2 nuits Trujillo Jour 12 Bus sur Chimbote (2h30) – Location de voiture - Départ sur Huaraz par Casma – Nuit à Huaraz Jour 13 Canon del Pato – Nuit Huaraz (2) Jour 14 Retour sur Chimbote – Restitution du véhicule – nuit Chimbote Jour 15 Chimbote/Lima en bus (7 h) – Nuit à Lima Jour 16 Location de voiture à Lima – trajet sur Tarma – nuit Tarma Jour 17 Route sur Huancayo – nuit Huancayo Jour 18 Route sur San Vicente de Canete Jour 19 Journée plage – 2 nuits à San Vicente Jour 20 Route sur Lima – restitution du véhicule – Nuit Lima Jour 21 Lima / Pisco en bus ou avion ? Jour 22 Réserve naturelle de Paracas – Islas Ballestas – nuit Pisco Jour 23 Pisco / Nazca en bus ou avion ? Jour 24 et 25 Nazca – Ica – 3 nuits à Nazca Jour 26 Nazca/Lima en avion ou bus ? Jour 27 et 28 Lima Jour 29 Retour sur Paris
Selon vous, est-ce réaliste ? Si oui, quelle est la meilleure période pour ce périple ? Nous avions pensé à mai.
Merci de vos conseils avisés.
martine
Bonjour,
Nous sommes 2 amies et nous projetons un voyage au Chili fin octobre / novembre, nous avons décidé de nous concentrer sur le nord du pays.
Avant de réserver les billets d'avion, nous souhaiterions avoir vos avis sur notre itinéraire afin de savoir combien de jours environ il faudrait prévoir sur place.
Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire :
- Santiago : 1 nuit - Vol Santiago -> Calama - San Pedro de Atacama : 4 ou 5 nuits Nous allons louer une voiture et faire le maximum de visites par nous-mêmes (sauf les geysers el tatio où nous prendrons une excursion) - Excursion Salar Uyuni Bolivie : 4 jours 3 nuits Ensuite, nous souhaitons faire un circuit dans le nord en voiture de location, l'itinéraire n'est pas encore au point : - Iquique ou Pica : 1 ou 2 nuits (ça serait pour se reposer un peu) - Arica : 1 ou 2 nuits - Putre : au minimum 2 nuits Combien de temps prévoir sur place ? Nous souhaitons faire le parc Lauca et le Salar de Surire, vaut-il mieux le faire avec une excursion ? Je suis preneuse de toutes vos suggestions de visites dans le coin. - Retour sur Arica et vol Arica -> Santiago - A voir si nous aurons le temps d'ajouter une étape à Valparaiso (en bus depuis Santiago) - Santiago : 1 nuit - Retour en France
Pour la voiture de location, est-ce qu'il vaut mieux louer une seule voiture durant tout le voyage (prise du véhicule à Calama et retour à Arica avant de reprendre l'avion vers Santiago) ou alors laisser la première avant l'excursion en Bolivie (pour ne pas payer inutilement les 3 jours lorsqu'on sera en Bolivie) et en reprendre une ensuite ?
Merci d'avance pour toutes vos réponses, conseils, remarques.
Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire :
- Santiago : 1 nuit - Vol Santiago -> Calama - San Pedro de Atacama : 4 ou 5 nuits Nous allons louer une voiture et faire le maximum de visites par nous-mêmes (sauf les geysers el tatio où nous prendrons une excursion) - Excursion Salar Uyuni Bolivie : 4 jours 3 nuits Ensuite, nous souhaitons faire un circuit dans le nord en voiture de location, l'itinéraire n'est pas encore au point : - Iquique ou Pica : 1 ou 2 nuits (ça serait pour se reposer un peu) - Arica : 1 ou 2 nuits - Putre : au minimum 2 nuits Combien de temps prévoir sur place ? Nous souhaitons faire le parc Lauca et le Salar de Surire, vaut-il mieux le faire avec une excursion ? Je suis preneuse de toutes vos suggestions de visites dans le coin. - Retour sur Arica et vol Arica -> Santiago - A voir si nous aurons le temps d'ajouter une étape à Valparaiso (en bus depuis Santiago) - Santiago : 1 nuit - Retour en France
Pour la voiture de location, est-ce qu'il vaut mieux louer une seule voiture durant tout le voyage (prise du véhicule à Calama et retour à Arica avant de reprendre l'avion vers Santiago) ou alors laisser la première avant l'excursion en Bolivie (pour ne pas payer inutilement les 3 jours lorsqu'on sera en Bolivie) et en reprendre une ensuite ?
Merci d'avance pour toutes vos réponses, conseils, remarques.
A few friends and I are planning to explore the northern shore of Lake Titicaca, making stops using local buses or collectivos. The route starts in Huancane, passes through places like Moho and Conima (on the Peruvian side), then crosses the border and continues into Bolivia via spots like Escoma, Ancoraines, Achacachi, and Huarina. I can’t find any info on transportation between these towns. It also seems there are no listed hotels or other types of accommodations.
Personally, I’ve already visited several places on the southern shore of the lake.
Questions: Is this less touristy route along the northern shore—compared to the southern route via Unguyo and Copacabana—worth it? Are there buses that cover the northern shore in both Peru and Bolivia? What accommodations do you know of along this route? Alternatively, is it possible to rent a car in Puno to circle the entire lake, and which reliable agencies would you recommend? Thanks for your suggestions! 😉
Personally, I’ve already visited several places on the southern shore of the lake.
Questions: Is this less touristy route along the northern shore—compared to the southern route via Unguyo and Copacabana—worth it? Are there buses that cover the northern shore in both Peru and Bolivia? What accommodations do you know of along this route? Alternatively, is it possible to rent a car in Puno to circle the entire lake, and which reliable agencies would you recommend? Thanks for your suggestions! 😉
Hi there,
I’m planning to visit the Cotahuasi area in a few months.
I’d like to know which bus companies operate the Arequipa to Cotahuasi route and which ones are the safest in terms of avoiding accidents.
Is the road passable if we rent a car to get there?
Has anyone reading this traveled by car to this destination?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hi everyone,
After a lot of hesitation due to the season, I finally booked my tickets to Lima from June 30 to March 11—I’ll be crossing my fingers for the weather!
We’re planning the classic southern loop with a rental car, either the whole thing or part of it.
I’ve got a ton of questions:
Is it possible to drive to the Salinas y Aguada Blanca Reserve with our own vehicle?
Is the road to Cusco (the 34 E) in good condition?
Is it better to return via Andahuaylas, Pampachiri, Nazca? Or through Ayacucho toward Paracas?
I’m also hesitating about heading to the Cordillera Blanca and pushing on to Trujillo and Chan Chan because of the weather. The other option would be to spend a week or 10 days in northern Chile, which I think is amazing...
So, if you’ve got any tips or suggestions?
So, if you’ve got any tips or suggestions?
Hello,
How good it feels to be back on this forum!!!!
Today, we started looking into traveling in April 2026, either to Chile or Argentina. It’s our first trip to South America. I’ve only been to French Guiana once, about ten years ago, for the space center. In recent years, we’ve usually gone to Asia during the spring holidays.
Based on the flight tickets I’ve found, two arrival and departure options are available: - Arriving in Buenos Aires and departing from Salvador de Bahia. - Arriving in Santiago, Chile, and still departing from Salvador de Bahia.
We’re considering flying business class on the outbound flight so we arrive a bit more rested. The travel class might influence our choice between itinerary A or B.
We’d like to spend two days at Iguazu Falls (both the Argentine and Brazilian sides), which explains the departure from Brazil.
Initially, we thought about arriving in Buenos Aires and staying in Argentina before heading to Iguazu. However, the itinerary forces us to go back through Buenos Aires.
We love nature. The El Calafate region seems to offer beautiful, easily accessible landscapes. Maybe there’s another area we should prioritize.
Here are two itineraries—what do you think? I know it’s short, but we can’t add any more days. We’ll have to make it work.
Option A: D1(Sat): Flight from France to Buenos Aires – arrival at 9:55 PM. D2(Sun): Visit Buenos Aires D3(Mon): Visit Buenos Aires. D4(Tue): Flight from Buenos Aires to El Calafate – 3.5-hour flight – arrival around midday. D4(Tue) – until D11(Tue) – visit the El Calafate region: El Calafate / 121km / El Chaltén / 12km / Mount Fitz Roy / 4km / Cerro Torre Mountain / 132km / Perito Moreno Glacier / 57km / El Calafate. D11(Tue): Flight to Buenos Aires D12(Wed): Morning flight to Iguazu (Argentine side) – flight at 6:40 AM or 8:10 AM – 2-hour flight. D13(Thu): Half-day on the Brazilian side – flight around 7:00 PM to Salvador de Bahia. D14(Fri): Visit Salvador de Bahia (downtown) D15(Sat): Morning visit + midday departure for the airport – flight at 5:45 PM from Salvador de Bahia D16(Sun): Arrival in France.
This itinerary forces us to pass through Buenos Aires twice.
Option B: D0(Fri): Flight from France to Santiago, Chile – departure at 11:20 PM from CDG. D1(Sat): Arrival at 7:45 AM in Santiago, Chile – hotel + city visit. D2(Sun): Visit Santiago, Chile D3(Mon): Departure for Puerto Natales, Punta Arenas, or El Calafate – to be decided. There’s about a 3-hour flight. We need to check the drop-off fees if we pick up the car in Chile and return it in Argentina – see ADEL RENT A CAR. D3(Mon) – until D10(Mon) – visit the El Calafate region: El Calafate / 121km / El Chaltén / 12km / Mount Fitz Roy / 4km / Cerro Torre Mountain / 132km / Perito Moreno Glacier / 57km / El Calafate. D10(Mon): 3.5-hour flight + visit Buenos Aires. D11(Tue): Visit Buenos Aires D12(Wed): Morning flight to Iguazu (Argentine side) – flight at 6:40 AM or 8:10 AM – 2-hour flight. D13(Thu): Half-day on the Brazilian side – flight around 7:00 PM to Salvador de Bahia. D14(Fri): Visit Salvador de Bahia (downtown) D15(Sat): Morning visit + midday departure for the airport – flight at 5:45 PM from Salvador de Bahia D16(Sun): Arrival in France.
The end of the itinerary is the same. This option avoids passing through Buenos Aires twice. Thanks for your feedback.
Today, we started looking into traveling in April 2026, either to Chile or Argentina. It’s our first trip to South America. I’ve only been to French Guiana once, about ten years ago, for the space center. In recent years, we’ve usually gone to Asia during the spring holidays.
Based on the flight tickets I’ve found, two arrival and departure options are available: - Arriving in Buenos Aires and departing from Salvador de Bahia. - Arriving in Santiago, Chile, and still departing from Salvador de Bahia.
We’re considering flying business class on the outbound flight so we arrive a bit more rested. The travel class might influence our choice between itinerary A or B.
We’d like to spend two days at Iguazu Falls (both the Argentine and Brazilian sides), which explains the departure from Brazil.
Initially, we thought about arriving in Buenos Aires and staying in Argentina before heading to Iguazu. However, the itinerary forces us to go back through Buenos Aires.
We love nature. The El Calafate region seems to offer beautiful, easily accessible landscapes. Maybe there’s another area we should prioritize.
Here are two itineraries—what do you think? I know it’s short, but we can’t add any more days. We’ll have to make it work.
Option A: D1(Sat): Flight from France to Buenos Aires – arrival at 9:55 PM. D2(Sun): Visit Buenos Aires D3(Mon): Visit Buenos Aires. D4(Tue): Flight from Buenos Aires to El Calafate – 3.5-hour flight – arrival around midday. D4(Tue) – until D11(Tue) – visit the El Calafate region: El Calafate / 121km / El Chaltén / 12km / Mount Fitz Roy / 4km / Cerro Torre Mountain / 132km / Perito Moreno Glacier / 57km / El Calafate. D11(Tue): Flight to Buenos Aires D12(Wed): Morning flight to Iguazu (Argentine side) – flight at 6:40 AM or 8:10 AM – 2-hour flight. D13(Thu): Half-day on the Brazilian side – flight around 7:00 PM to Salvador de Bahia. D14(Fri): Visit Salvador de Bahia (downtown) D15(Sat): Morning visit + midday departure for the airport – flight at 5:45 PM from Salvador de Bahia D16(Sun): Arrival in France.
This itinerary forces us to pass through Buenos Aires twice.
Option B: D0(Fri): Flight from France to Santiago, Chile – departure at 11:20 PM from CDG. D1(Sat): Arrival at 7:45 AM in Santiago, Chile – hotel + city visit. D2(Sun): Visit Santiago, Chile D3(Mon): Departure for Puerto Natales, Punta Arenas, or El Calafate – to be decided. There’s about a 3-hour flight. We need to check the drop-off fees if we pick up the car in Chile and return it in Argentina – see ADEL RENT A CAR. D3(Mon) – until D10(Mon) – visit the El Calafate region: El Calafate / 121km / El Chaltén / 12km / Mount Fitz Roy / 4km / Cerro Torre Mountain / 132km / Perito Moreno Glacier / 57km / El Calafate. D10(Mon): 3.5-hour flight + visit Buenos Aires. D11(Tue): Visit Buenos Aires D12(Wed): Morning flight to Iguazu (Argentine side) – flight at 6:40 AM or 8:10 AM – 2-hour flight. D13(Thu): Half-day on the Brazilian side – flight around 7:00 PM to Salvador de Bahia. D14(Fri): Visit Salvador de Bahia (downtown) D15(Sat): Morning visit + midday departure for the airport – flight at 5:45 PM from Salvador de Bahia D16(Sun): Arrival in France.
The end of the itinerary is the same. This option avoids passing through Buenos Aires twice. Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Patagonia and Chile at the end of March. I’m looking for a pretty chill itinerary that isn’t too tiring for health reasons, but still a nice trip...
To avoid spending three weeks in the somewhat chilly Patagonia, we’re planning to head up to Valparaíso and the Atacama Desert. Here’s the itinerary:
Arrival in Buenos Aires
Flight to El Calafate (4 nights)
Bus to Puerto Natales (1 night)
Torres del Paine (4 nights)
Santiago (1 night) (flight from Puerto Natales)
Valparaíso (4 nights)
San Pedro de Atacama (5 nights)
Santiago (1 night) then flight to Paris
I’m wondering whether it’s worth going all the way to Ushuaia. Sure, it’s a legendary destination, but is it as impressive as El Calafate and Torres del Paine?
The other option would be to cut one night from Torres del Paine, Valparaíso, and San Pedro, and spend 3 nights in Ushuaia instead.
Also, I’m a bit confused about whether an international driver’s permit is required to drive in Argentina and Chile. I’ve applied for one, but the processing times are really long, and I probably won’t have it before I leave...
Thanks for your feedback,
Marc









