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No, I Won’t Be Going Back to China
Hello forum,
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Dans quels pays peut-on devenir propriétaire en son nom?
Bonjour,
Je souhaiterais savoir quelles sont les pays ou l'on peut devenir proprietaire en son nom, c'est a dire sans devoir créer d' entreprise avec des locaux et encore moins mettre un bien immobilier au nom d' un habitant local.
Merci
Je souhaiterais savoir quelles sont les pays ou l'on peut devenir proprietaire en son nom, c'est a dire sans devoir créer d' entreprise avec des locaux et encore moins mettre un bien immobilier au nom d' un habitant local.
Merci
Quitter son pays natal pour découvrir d'autre pays et s'y installer si possible
boujour chres (es) voyageurs (euses)🙂
Moi et mon conjoint avons un reve commun, c'est de partir faire le tour des étas unis ainsi que de l'amérique du central et du sud. Nous voulons visiter tout les pays pour découvrie de nouveaux paysages et de nouvelles cultures. nous vivont présentement a montréal ou le train de la vie est stressante, toujour la meme routine a chaque jour boulot, manger, dormir. Nous voulons donner un nouveau sens a notre vie.
Nous nous possont quelques questions?😎
Est- il possible de se trouver un boulot dans un autre pays Est-il possible de s'installer dans un autre pays quel pays nous devrions éviter car trop dangeureux
merci d'avance pour les infos
Moi et mon conjoint avons un reve commun, c'est de partir faire le tour des étas unis ainsi que de l'amérique du central et du sud. Nous voulons visiter tout les pays pour découvrie de nouveaux paysages et de nouvelles cultures. nous vivont présentement a montréal ou le train de la vie est stressante, toujour la meme routine a chaque jour boulot, manger, dormir. Nous voulons donner un nouveau sens a notre vie.
Nous nous possont quelques questions?😎
Est- il possible de se trouver un boulot dans un autre pays Est-il possible de s'installer dans un autre pays quel pays nous devrions éviter car trop dangeureux
merci d'avance pour les infos