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From France to Mecca by Bike
Assalamu 'alaykum,
Hi everyone,
This thread is to echo some posts I’ve read on this forum while researching a potential bike trip from Annecy to Mecca. I came across several discussions where members mentioned being very interested in cycling to the holy city.
So, God willing, I plan to attempt this journey from January to June next year. The idea is to head to Turkey first, then assess the most reasonable routes based on the geopolitical situation around Palestine and as far as Iraq. Since the Turkish-Syrian border is closed, the only remaining (and I mean *only* remaining) overland option would be to go through Iraqi Kurdistan, Iraq, then Jordan, and finally Saudi Arabia.
That’s the first major challenge of this project. The second is timing. Due to the schedule, I’ll be starting in the middle of winter across Europe and finishing in the peak of summer in Saudi Arabia. If I’d had a choice, I’d have waited a good dozen years—but well, twelve years...
I won’t go into too much detail about the planned route in this post, but here are the broad strokes already set: Annecy to Istanbul. The rest is a bit too far ahead to map out properly. Crossing the Italian border via the Montgenèvre Pass. Straight through northern Italy as quickly as possible (not necessarily very pleasant) to reach Ljubljana. The fastest route through Croatia to spend as much time as possible in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Serbia via the Sandžak region. It crosses the Pešter plateau, which intimidates me at this time of year—its nickname, the "Siberia of the Balkans," says it all... Then Kosovo, North Macedonia, Greece, and Turkey.
I’m open to any advice on this itinerary. The choice was made to pass through as many Muslim-majority regions as possible. In the middle of winter in the Balkans, I don’t feel mentally up to bivouacking alone in that climate. So, I’ll try to find accommodations in mosques or even with locals as much as possible.
That’s the project in a nutshell. The big catch—some of you may have already noticed—is that I’m doing this solo. Yet, this is strongly discouraged by our Prophet—peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. So, I invite anyone interested in joining this project, whether closely or from afar, to reach out and contact me. Any contribution is welcome, whether it’s company for the whole journey (one can always hope!) or just part of it. Advice, contact suggestions, places to stay, and information about Hajj or Umrah are also appreciated.
Thanks for reading this far. I’ll try to check my VoyageForum account from time to time to see if anyone has responded to this thread and will happily reply to your messages and questions.
Take care, Assalamu'alaykum.
Sam

This thread is to echo some posts I’ve read on this forum while researching a potential bike trip from Annecy to Mecca. I came across several discussions where members mentioned being very interested in cycling to the holy city.
So, God willing, I plan to attempt this journey from January to June next year. The idea is to head to Turkey first, then assess the most reasonable routes based on the geopolitical situation around Palestine and as far as Iraq. Since the Turkish-Syrian border is closed, the only remaining (and I mean *only* remaining) overland option would be to go through Iraqi Kurdistan, Iraq, then Jordan, and finally Saudi Arabia.
That’s the first major challenge of this project. The second is timing. Due to the schedule, I’ll be starting in the middle of winter across Europe and finishing in the peak of summer in Saudi Arabia. If I’d had a choice, I’d have waited a good dozen years—but well, twelve years...
I won’t go into too much detail about the planned route in this post, but here are the broad strokes already set: Annecy to Istanbul. The rest is a bit too far ahead to map out properly. Crossing the Italian border via the Montgenèvre Pass. Straight through northern Italy as quickly as possible (not necessarily very pleasant) to reach Ljubljana. The fastest route through Croatia to spend as much time as possible in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Serbia via the Sandžak region. It crosses the Pešter plateau, which intimidates me at this time of year—its nickname, the "Siberia of the Balkans," says it all... Then Kosovo, North Macedonia, Greece, and Turkey.
I’m open to any advice on this itinerary. The choice was made to pass through as many Muslim-majority regions as possible. In the middle of winter in the Balkans, I don’t feel mentally up to bivouacking alone in that climate. So, I’ll try to find accommodations in mosques or even with locals as much as possible.
That’s the project in a nutshell. The big catch—some of you may have already noticed—is that I’m doing this solo. Yet, this is strongly discouraged by our Prophet—peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. So, I invite anyone interested in joining this project, whether closely or from afar, to reach out and contact me. Any contribution is welcome, whether it’s company for the whole journey (one can always hope!) or just part of it. Advice, contact suggestions, places to stay, and information about Hajj or Umrah are also appreciated.
Thanks for reading this far. I’ll try to check my VoyageForum account from time to time to see if anyone has responded to this thread and will happily reply to your messages and questions.
Take care, Assalamu'alaykum.
Sam

Travel companion for France-Bamako in a Mercedes Sprinter
Hello,
I’m planning to leave for Bamako in three to six months.
Here’s my itinerary: Toulouse (France) via Barcelona, Tangier, crossing Morocco to GUERGUERAT, entering Mauritania, Nouakchott up to the GOGUI border (Mali), and arriving in Bamako. I might go through Algeciras depending on costs.
I plan to stop for a week in Nouakchott with family.
I’ll be traveling in a half-loaded Mercedes Sprinter.
For this reason, I’m looking for a travel companion due to my age and health.
I’ve made this crossing several times, including two round trips in 2018.
I’m open to any serious proposals.
Many thanks for this site, which has been a great source of information.
Shuttle from Roissy CDG to Lille train station
Hi
Does anyone know a reliable and affordable shuttle service from Roissy airport to Lille train station?
I know there are TGVs, but we’d like to avoid a long wait at Roissy station.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
BD
Ferry crossing from France or Spain to Morocco
Hi everyone, we’d like to go to Morocco for the first time around April, preferably from France or Spain. Which departure port would you recommend, and for arrival in Morocco, are there any ports that are better? I’ve read that some arrival ports aren’t very safe. Thanks for your advice!
Bike trip: from Carcans Maubuisson to Plaisir (Yvelines)
Monday, August 21, 2023 - Rochefort - Marans
No journal for the first two days. Day 1 - CARCANS-ROYAN Day 2 - ROYAN - ROCHEFORT Tonight I'm in MARANS in the "dry marsh" according to the campsite manager—it’s the first time I’ve heard of a "dry marsh"?!
Photos from the first two days
My gear

The Landes region—nothing extraordinary, but the calm and serenity are nice.

Le Verdon

The wild coast

This marsh isn’t dry, though.
Today is the third day of my trip, and I’m writing to you from a campsite in Marans. I’ve set out to bike from Carcans Maubuisson back to Plaisir. Why Carcans? Because we spent a week there as a family—a great week that lets everyone reconnect for a long stretch. Also, on Saturday, we all headed home—some by car, and me by bike. This journey is about 850 km via bike paths and small cycling roads. It’s not a sporting feat, just a nice long ride for fun. As the old Chinese sage says, "The destination doesn’t matter—it’s the journey that counts." But he also told me, "Traveling is great, but what’s the point if you don’t share it?" You see, this old sage has told me a lot of things—he often keeps me company when I’m biking. Of course, he doesn’t pedal, but we travel in harmony. Sure, he can be a bit annoying sometimes, but we still get along. All this to say I’ve created a group to share my story. I’d be happy to share this experience with you—it’s an adventure for me. On Saturday, I wasn’t sure I’d even leave because I’d been dealing with sciatica for days. Luckily, Juliette, a friend of the old Chinese sage, recommended a lifesaving remedy: Alternately stretching your legs with an elastic band under your foot. Obviously, a jam jar rubber band won’t cut it.
From Marans - The mosquitoes are attacking; time to head back to shelter.
The first two legs took me to Royan and then Rochefort. The Sèvre Niortaise flows nearby, and I followed a canal from La Rochelle. You could say the area is as dry as the marsh, judging by the state of the crops.

As I mentioned, it’s the third day, and if Jesus rose again on this day, for me it was more like the crucifixion. The scorching heat—only bearable when you’re moving—combined with rough trail conditions, and the old Chinese sage says, "Terrible roads, slow speed, and watch your limbs." I set out to do 60 km but ended up doing 80, and the last 20 were tough. I kept checking the GPS to see how much farther until the campsite. Today: Rochefort to Marans, sticking to the coast until La Rochelle, then no notable towns after that—just a constant canal. But since the sky isn’t too low, it hasn’t gotten lost. I’ve still got plenty of anecdotes to share, but it’s pitch black out, and the mosquitoes are still around. This morning, I counted ten in my tent, all full of my blood. Yesterday, at the end of the leg to Rochefort, I was really looking forward to crossing the Charente using the transporter bridge, but a sneaky GPS conspiracy led me far from it. I ended up crossing the Charente on a completely ordinary bridge, watching the transporter bridge in the distance with disappointment.
End of the first episode. Until tomorrow, if you’d like!
No journal for the first two days. Day 1 - CARCANS-ROYAN Day 2 - ROYAN - ROCHEFORT Tonight I'm in MARANS in the "dry marsh" according to the campsite manager—it’s the first time I’ve heard of a "dry marsh"?!
Photos from the first two days
My gear
The Landes region—nothing extraordinary, but the calm and serenity are nice.

Le Verdon

The wild coast

This marsh isn’t dry, though.
Today is the third day of my trip, and I’m writing to you from a campsite in Marans. I’ve set out to bike from Carcans Maubuisson back to Plaisir. Why Carcans? Because we spent a week there as a family—a great week that lets everyone reconnect for a long stretch. Also, on Saturday, we all headed home—some by car, and me by bike. This journey is about 850 km via bike paths and small cycling roads. It’s not a sporting feat, just a nice long ride for fun. As the old Chinese sage says, "The destination doesn’t matter—it’s the journey that counts." But he also told me, "Traveling is great, but what’s the point if you don’t share it?" You see, this old sage has told me a lot of things—he often keeps me company when I’m biking. Of course, he doesn’t pedal, but we travel in harmony. Sure, he can be a bit annoying sometimes, but we still get along. All this to say I’ve created a group to share my story. I’d be happy to share this experience with you—it’s an adventure for me. On Saturday, I wasn’t sure I’d even leave because I’d been dealing with sciatica for days. Luckily, Juliette, a friend of the old Chinese sage, recommended a lifesaving remedy: Alternately stretching your legs with an elastic band under your foot. Obviously, a jam jar rubber band won’t cut it.
From Marans - The mosquitoes are attacking; time to head back to shelter.
The first two legs took me to Royan and then Rochefort. The Sèvre Niortaise flows nearby, and I followed a canal from La Rochelle. You could say the area is as dry as the marsh, judging by the state of the crops.

As I mentioned, it’s the third day, and if Jesus rose again on this day, for me it was more like the crucifixion. The scorching heat—only bearable when you’re moving—combined with rough trail conditions, and the old Chinese sage says, "Terrible roads, slow speed, and watch your limbs." I set out to do 60 km but ended up doing 80, and the last 20 were tough. I kept checking the GPS to see how much farther until the campsite. Today: Rochefort to Marans, sticking to the coast until La Rochelle, then no notable towns after that—just a constant canal. But since the sky isn’t too low, it hasn’t gotten lost. I’ve still got plenty of anecdotes to share, but it’s pitch black out, and the mosquitoes are still around. This morning, I counted ten in my tent, all full of my blood. Yesterday, at the end of the leg to Rochefort, I was really looking forward to crossing the Charente using the transporter bridge, but a sneaky GPS conspiracy led me far from it. I ended up crossing the Charente on a completely ordinary bridge, watching the transporter bridge in the distance with disappointment.
End of the first episode. Until tomorrow, if you’d like!
Lascaux Caves: Which Replica Should We Visit?
Hi there,
We're really into prehistory and want to visit the cave replica. But there are two—Lascaux 2 and Lascaux 4. What are the differences, and which one should we visit? Plus, there’s also the Prehistory Museum in Les Eyzies. Is that worth checking out too? Thanks for your advice!
We're really into prehistory and want to visit the cave replica. But there are two—Lascaux 2 and Lascaux 4. What are the differences, and which one should we visit? Plus, there’s also the Prehistory Museum in Les Eyzies. Is that worth checking out too? Thanks for your advice!
Getting from Beauvais Airport to Paris
I’m about to land at Beauvais Airport for my first visit to the capital, and I’ll admit I’m a bit lost about the transport options to get to central Paris. Any tips on the best deals for the trip? 🚌🚇
I’d also love to discover some lesser-known spots beyond the must-sees like the Eiffel Tower, Montmartre, and the Louvre. Any suggestions for cool places to visit? 😍
And if I decide to go to Disneyland, do you know if there are any convenient and budget-friendly shared shuttles from the city center? 🎢✨
Thanks in advance for all your tips! 🙏
I’d also love to discover some lesser-known spots beyond the must-sees like the Eiffel Tower, Montmartre, and the Louvre. Any suggestions for cool places to visit? 😍
And if I decide to go to Disneyland, do you know if there are any convenient and budget-friendly shared shuttles from the city center? 🎢✨
Thanks in advance for all your tips! 🙏
Cruise to Fort-de-France on the Costa Fortuna in November 2024
We're leaving from Marseille on the Costa Fortuna on November 22nd, heading to Fort-de-France, then spending 8 days in the Caribbean islands. We'd love to meet some fellow travelers!
Diagonals of France
A lot of water has flowed under the bridges, and many kilometers have rolled by under my wheels since my last post on this forum. I've ridden the 4 diagonals of France, a Paris-Brest-Paris, and crisscrossed the country from one end to the other.
Cycling route from France through Switzerland, Germany via Claudia Augusta and Italy via the Padana
France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria via Claudia Augusta and Italy via the Padana (AIDA) Alta Italia...
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2025-via-augusta/
2024 already done, 2025 in sight
About 2,460 km with the Alps to cross, of course.
Faverges, Annecy, Geneva, Yverdon, Bienne, Bodensee, Danube sources, Ulm, Donauwörth, Augsburg, via Claudia Augusta, Innsbruck, Bolzano, Trento, Nervesa, Treviso, Mestre, Venice; Via AIDA (Alta Italia da attraversare / Padana) Padova, Vicenza, Verona, Brescia, Milan, Novara, Vercelli, Chivasso, Turin, Susa, Mont Cenis Pass, Maurienne, Albertville, Faverges. A fantasy of Glaude’s for n+1 years For 2025? The story is already formatted
To be seen

About 2,460 km with the Alps to cross, of course.
Faverges, Annecy, Geneva, Yverdon, Bienne, Bodensee, Danube sources, Ulm, Donauwörth, Augsburg, via Claudia Augusta, Innsbruck, Bolzano, Trento, Nervesa, Treviso, Mestre, Venice; Via AIDA (Alta Italia da attraversare / Padana) Padova, Vicenza, Verona, Brescia, Milan, Novara, Vercelli, Chivasso, Turin, Susa, Mont Cenis Pass, Maurienne, Albertville, Faverges. A fantasy of Glaude’s for n+1 years For 2025? The story is already formatted
To be seen

Crossing France from North to South in 2024
in 2024, a beautiful ride with Claudio
from Dunkirk to Perpignan or thereabouts
a timeless journey off the beaten path
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2024-dunkerq-perp/

http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2024-dunkerq-perp/

Affordable Airbnb or aparthotel in a nice neighborhood
Hi everyone. I’m planning to spend a few days in Paris with my husband and son for the Agriculture Show in Feb 2025. We’d also like to visit some of the classic sights—Eiffel Tower, Champs-Élysées, Notre-Dame.
I have no idea where to look for an affordable Airbnb or aparthotel in a nice neighborhood. Any tips? Thanks in advance
I have no idea where to look for an affordable Airbnb or aparthotel in a nice neighborhood. Any tips? Thanks in advance
Cruise "The 4 Rivers" with Croisieurope
Have any of you done this cruise? We booked the excursion package—I hope we made the right choice! I hope it’s not too long or too tiring, since we’re 73 and 76. Thanks
First trip to France with kids after 12 years abroad
Hi there,
A sudden family event means I’ll be spending a few days in France alone with my kids in the coming days.
Just to set the scene—I live in Japan, I have two young children (4 and 2 years old), and this is my first time returning to France in 12 years. I’m feeling a little overwhelmed.
My questions: 1/ My kids don’t share my last name. Do I need to have a document proving our parent-child relationship (+ a French translation?) with me?
2/ They have Japanese nationality. Will they be able to go through the same line as me at the airport? (I think I remember there’s an EU nationals line and another for non-EU, but given their age...)
Thanks in advance for your help.
Just to set the scene—I live in Japan, I have two young children (4 and 2 years old), and this is my first time returning to France in 12 years. I’m feeling a little overwhelmed.
My questions: 1/ My kids don’t share my last name. Do I need to have a document proving our parent-child relationship (+ a French translation?) with me?
2/ They have Japanese nationality. Will they be able to go through the same line as me at the airport? (I think I remember there’s an EU nationals line and another for non-EU, but given their age...)
Thanks in advance for your help.
Nomad bus from Montparnasse Station (Paris) to Dreux
Hello, for Nomad bus 77429 to Dreux from Montparnasse Station, where do I catch this bus?
Thanks in advance
Renovating a Peugeot 404 in France (purchased in Algeria)
Hi everyone,
As the owner of a Peugeot 404 in Algeria, I have the opportunity to renovate it in France. My question is whether, administratively, I’m allowed to take my car out in a rusty, worn state and bring it back in great condition—will customs, the technical service, or any other administration have an issue with that?
Thanks in advance for your feedback and insights. Have a great day
As the owner of a Peugeot 404 in Algeria, I have the opportunity to renovate it in France. My question is whether, administratively, I’m allowed to take my car out in a rusty, worn state and bring it back in great condition—will customs, the technical service, or any other administration have an issue with that?
Thanks in advance for your feedback and insights. Have a great day
Trip report: 2,700 km scooter ride from Lacanau-Océan to Névache (Briançon)
From Lacanau Océan to Névache, July 4–13, 2024.
Stopping at roadside markers and signs in towns, on trails. I left home in Corsica, took the boat from L'Ile-Rousse to Sète, then headed up to Lacanau-Océan for the start of the 45th parallel. Destination: north of Briançon, Plampinet (Névache municipality). For more info and photos, check out my FB page "45th Parallel".
I did it solo, on a 125cc scooter, a Honda Forza with no mechanical mods. Under-seat storage, a top case, a bag strapped to the rear seat with bungees, and two side bags that gave out in the first few days due to poor quality.
Used a GPS, smartphone apps like the famous "68°", "my exact location", and "Ventusky" for weather. Plus paper road maps and a travel journal. Various accommodations (camping, B&Bs, a yurt, and staying with friends).
In total:
2,700 km total, including 1,800 km from Lacanau to Névache via small, lost-but-so-pleasant backroads. Crappy weather from Sète to Lacanau, then nice conditions.
Estimated fuel consumption: 3 liters per 100 km. No mechanical issues—neither with the scooter nor myself.
One regret: I didn’t take enough time to meet people.
For info...: At nearly 77, I still feel the need to do things differently—like the GTA (Grande Traversée des Alpes 😠, the climb to the metallic globe at Nordkapp, Norway (which I did by sea)😠, the trip to southern Portugal😠, etc. On top of that, after an accident and two major knee surgeries, I can’t hike, bike, trek in the desert, or even walk 1 km on sand. That’s also why I can’t ride a motorcycle with bent legs…
* Feel free to share your thoughts or ask for more details.
Which transport should I take from Drancy to the Grévin Museum (Paris)?
Hi, I need your advice.
I’m heading to Drancy in the Paris region this Friday, on Auguste Blanqui Street—apparently it’s next to a police station.
I’d like to get from there to the Grévin Museum, but I’m not sure how: should I take the bus, RER, tram, or metro? If a kind soul could point me in the right direction and explain what type of transport ticket I need, that’d be great. I’m new to getting around Paris—I’m from the north and not used to it.
Thanks in advance!
Ouverture d'une base Ryanair à Beauvais
En décembre la low cost irlandaise ouvrira une nouvelle base à l'aéroport Paris-Beauvais et proposera ainsi 32 liaisons pour 105 vols hebdomadaires entre Beauvais et 13 pays européens.
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Trois lignes domestiques au départ d'Orly pour Vueling
"La Tribune":
En pleine crise du transport aérien, la filiale low-cost du groupe IAG va ouvrir le 16 octobre les lignes Orly-Marseille, Orly-Brest et Orly-Montpellier; ces deux dernières lignes étant identifiées par Transavia. Cette offre attractive avec des billets à 29 euros TTC reste cantonnée aux week-ends.
Pas sûr qu'Air France et de Transavia aient vu venir le coup. Alors, que le groupe français a décidé de lancer sa filiale low-cost sur le réseau domestique pour remplacer une partie de l'activité de HOP et d'Air France, Vueling, la filiale à bas coûts du groupe IAG, lance cet hiver de nouvelles lignes domestiques au départ de Paris.
Dès ce mardi 22 septembre, les billets seront mis en vente à partir de 29 euros l’aller simple du 16 octobre 2020 à mars 2021. Chaque vol sera direct et les lignes proposeront 2 vols hebdomadaires, les vendredis et dimanches.
« Nous sommes très heureux d’annoncer le lancement de vols domestiques directs reliant Paris-Orly à Montpellier, Marseille et Brest. Cela reflète l’engagement de Vueling en France et l’envie de la compagnie aérienne de répondre à la demande des clients français pour des destinations intra-françaises », a déclaré Charlotte Dumesnil, directrice du développement commercial de Vueling.
En pleine crise du transport aérien, la filiale low-cost du groupe IAG va ouvrir le 16 octobre les lignes Orly-Marseille, Orly-Brest et Orly-Montpellier; ces deux dernières lignes étant identifiées par Transavia. Cette offre attractive avec des billets à 29 euros TTC reste cantonnée aux week-ends.
Pas sûr qu'Air France et de Transavia aient vu venir le coup. Alors, que le groupe français a décidé de lancer sa filiale low-cost sur le réseau domestique pour remplacer une partie de l'activité de HOP et d'Air France, Vueling, la filiale à bas coûts du groupe IAG, lance cet hiver de nouvelles lignes domestiques au départ de Paris.
Dès ce mardi 22 septembre, les billets seront mis en vente à partir de 29 euros l’aller simple du 16 octobre 2020 à mars 2021. Chaque vol sera direct et les lignes proposeront 2 vols hebdomadaires, les vendredis et dimanches.
« Nous sommes très heureux d’annoncer le lancement de vols domestiques directs reliant Paris-Orly à Montpellier, Marseille et Brest. Cela reflète l’engagement de Vueling en France et l’envie de la compagnie aérienne de répondre à la demande des clients français pour des destinations intra-françaises », a déclaré Charlotte Dumesnil, directrice du développement commercial de Vueling.









