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Nos médecins nous conseillent... site santé English translation pending
by Lotusbleue · 2004-06-05 · 6 replies
Nous nous posons parfois des questions du style :

Pourquoi les médecins ont des avis si différents par rapport à d'autres quant à la médication des futurs voyageurs, en parcourant le site du ministère de la santé, je suis tombée sur ça :
http://www.sante.gouv.fr/

Recommandations sanitaires pour les voyageurs 2003 (à l'attention des professionnels de santé) BEH n° 26- 27/ 2003 117

Deux critères interviennent dans l'établissement d'un programme de vaccinations destiné à un voyageur. Le premier de ces critères est l'obligation administrative qui correspond plus à la protection du pays contre un risque infectieux venant de l'extérieur qu'aux risques encourus par le voyageur. Les risques réels encourus par le voyageur constituent, quant à eux, le second critère et varient en fonction de plusieurs paramètres : la situation sanitaire du pays visité ; les conditions et la durée du séjour ; les caractéristiques propres du voyageur, en particulier l'âge et aussi le statut vaccinal antérieur.

Le choix de la prophylaxie médicamenteuse tient compte des zones visitées (classées en groupe 1, 2 et 3 selon la fréquence de la résistance à la chloroquine et au proguanil, le groupe 0 correspondant à un risque nul de paludisme), de la durée du voyage et aussi de la personne : l'âge, les antécédents pathologiques, une intolérance aux antipaludiques, une possible interaction médicamenteuse, une grossesse (ou son éventualité). Quelque soit l'antipaludique choisi, il est conseillé de prendre ce médicament au cours d'un repas. Aucun antipaludique n'étant toujours parfaitement toléré, il peut être admissible, dans une zone à très faible transmission et correctement médicalisée, d'avoir recours à la seule protection contre les moustiques. La répartition des zones de résistance de Plasmodium falciparum : la chimiorésistance peut être appréciée de façon quantitative par l'étude in vivo ou in vitro, ou par le génotypage des souches responsables d'accès, auprès d'échantillons de populations non immunes vivant en zone d'endémie ou de voyageurs non chimioprophylactisés. 2.2.3.1 - Cas général Pays du groupe 0 : zones sans paludisme, pas de chimioprophylaxie Afrique : Lesotho, Libye, Ile de la Réunion, Ile Sainte Hélène, Seychelles, Tunisie. Amérique : toutes les villes et Antigua et Barbuda, Antilles néerlandaises, Bahamas, Barbade, Bermudes, Canada, Chili, Cuba, Dominique, Etats- Unis, Guadeloupe, Grenade, Iles Caïmans, IIes Malouines, Iles Vierges, Jamaïque, Martinique, Porto- Rico, Sainte- Lucie, Trinidad et Tobago, Uruguay. Asie : toutes les villes et Brunei, Georgie, Guam, HongKong, îles Christmas, îles Cook, Japon, Kazakhstan, Kirghizistan, Macao, Maldives, Mongolie, Singapour, Taiwan. Europe : tous les pays (y compris Açores, Canaries, Chypre, Fédération de Russie, Etats Baltes, Ukraine, Belarus et Turquie d'Europe). Proche et Moyen Orient : toutes les villes et Bahreïn, Israël, Jordanie, Koweït, Liban, Qatar. Océanie : toutes les villes et Australie, Fidji, Hawaï, Mariannes, Marshall, Micronésie, Nouvelle- Calédonie, Nouvelle- Zélande, île de Pâques, Polynésie française, Samoa, Tonga, Tuvalu, Wallis et Futuna, Kiribati, Cook, Samoa occidentales, Nive, Nauru, Palau. Cas particulier des zones de transmission faible Compte tenu de la faiblesse de la transmission dans ces pays, il est admissible de ne pas prendre de chimioprophylaxie, quelle que soit la durée du séjour. Il est cependant indispensable d'être en mesure, dans les mois qui suivent le retour, de consulter en urgence en cas de fièvre. Afrique : Algérie, Cap- Vert, Egypte, Maroc, Ile Maurice Asie : Arménie, Azerbaïdjan, Corée du Sud, Corée du Nord, Ouzbékistan, Turkménistan. Proche et Moyen Orient : Emirats arabes unis, Oman, Syrie, Turquie Pour tous les autres pays, il est nécessaire de prendre une chimioprophylaxie adaptée à la zone visitée.

Par ailleurs, il est important de savoir que la répartition des zones de résistance de Plasmodium falciparum telle qu'indiquée dans le tableau 1 doit être nuancée en fonction des niveaux de transmission. La connaissance du pays de destination est insuffisante et il faut aussi tenir compte de la région visitée, des conditions de séjour, de la saison, des particularités locales... Par exemple, un séjour en Thaïlande ou au Vietnam mais sans nuitée en zones forestières ne nécessite, a priori, pas de prévention anti- paludique. Il en est de même pour toutes les villes d'Asie (sauf parfois en Inde) ou d'Amérique. De la même façon, le paludisme ne se transmet habituellement pas au- dessus de 1 500 mètres d'altitude en Afrique et de 2 500 mètres en Amérique ou en Asie. Ainsi, d'une manière générale, pour un court séjour touristique ou professionnel (inférieur à sept jours : durée minimum d'incubation du paludisme

La possession d'un médicament de réserve en zone d'endémie palustre peut se justifier lors d'un séjour de plus d'une semaine avec déplacements en zone très isolée mais aussi dans des circonstances qui incitent à ne plus poursuivre la chimioprophylaxie antipaludique, telles que les voyages fréquents et répétés ou une expatriation très prolongée

C'est en séjournant dans les pays à faible niveau d'hygiène que les voyageurs en provenance des pays industrialisés sont le plus exposés au risque de diarrhée. L'incidence est influencée par la saison, la pathologie pré- existante du voyageur et son comportement alimentaire. La prudence recommande d'éviter l'ingestion d'aliments et de boissons à risque (crudités ou aliments cuits consommés froids, même conservés au réfrigérateur, eau locale non embouteillée et glaçons). Il n'y a pas encore de vaccination disponible. La chimioprophylaxie est déconseillée, à l'exception de situations particulières. Le traitement curatif est souvent un auto- traitement pour lequel il est pratique de disposer de médicaments dont on se sera muni avant le départ.

et bien d'autres encore... maintenant je sais pourquoi certains médecins préconisent toutes sortes de traitements et vaccins !

Mon médecin me conseille les vaccins habituels à jour et la savarine et surtout des répulsifs et précautions d'usages car je vais dans une partie du Mékong où il y a énormément d'animaux et d'eaux stagnantes ! Il ne m'a pas conseillé ni l'hép. A ni contre l'encéphalite Jap... quoique comme il dit nous ne sommes pas encore en nov et d'ici là il y aura des avis sanitaires si un danger survenait dans ces pays !!!

Donc, comme le dit LI, il est important de voir avec son médecin et son itinéraire de voyage pour prendre les précautions qui s'imposent.

Si vous partez à l'aveuglette... au hasard des rencontres qu'elles soient humaines ou animales... il est normal que les médecins restent dans la prévention et vous indiquent plusieurs traitements ! Si vous ne savez pas où vous allez, eux savent ce que vous pouvez rencontrez comme maladies !!!

Et puis, je pars du principe qu'il vaut mieux prévenir que guérir... et le trou de la sécu est suffisamment grand pour ne pas en rajouter !

C'est certain que les voyageurs avertis et rôdés ne prennent pas ou plus de traitement, mais pour celui qui se posent des questions et bien, voilà un début de réponse... à étudier avec votre médecin !

Bon voyage !
Passage frontière Liban vers Syrie + hôtel à Beyrouth English translation pending
by Ddpn · 2004-04-23 · 5 replies
De retour d'un petit trip dans la région, voici qqes infos utiles:

Visa Syrien au poste frontière: 28 USD (passeport français). Ils le donnent très rapidement (moins de 15 minutes au total pour le passage frontière).

Visa Liban: Disponible à l'aéroport de Beyrouth (Gratuit pour moins de 48h, 15 EUR pour moins de 15 jours et 30 EUR pour 30 jours)

A la frontière Syrie, Liban, même type de visa et prix qu'à l'aéroport, possibilité de payer en Livres libanaises (25, 000 ou 50, 000)

Hôtel à Beyrouth: Talal's Hotel juste à côté de Charles Helou et du centre ville.
Auto-stop en Europe English translation pending
by Clio · 2004-03-21 · 14 replies
Allô !

Je me demandais si certaines parmi vous ont déjà fait ''du pouce'' seule en Europe, ou encore connaissent quelqu'un qui l'a fait ... et ça s'est bien passé ?

Avez-vous des réserves ? Des conseils ?

Merci.
Découvrir les musiques du monde en voyageant: est-ce réalisable? English translation pending
by Varekai · 2004-03-15 · 8 replies
Bonjour à tous, mélomanes!

Je suis une musicienne passionnée de musique et de découvertes. J'adore la musique du monde entier, et j'ai un rêve depuis longtemps: découvrir les musiques du monde en voyageant. Cependant, ce n'est pas particulièrement évident, tout dépendant des pays, d'entendre des musiques traditionnelles "Live" . Par exemple, dans des pays asiatiques comme la Chine ou l'Inde qui s'ouvrent de plus en plus à l'occident, on peut entendre ce mélange de pop asiatique qui envahit les radios...

Comment repérer les petites réunions de musiciens et y prendre part? Comment découvrir la musique "pure" des pays visités, comment saisir les bonnes opportunités ? Comment réaliser un voyage musical réussi?

J'aimerais avoir des suggestions, des commentaires ou bien des expériences sur le sujet...Que pensez vous de ce genre de voyage? J'avoue que ca fait longtemps que je me demande si un tel voyage est réalisable, et j'aimerais avoir des opinions sur le sujet:)

Merci :)

Lynda, bohémienne urbaine
Egypte en sac à dos English translation pending
by Gribouil · 2004-03-05 · 11 replies
Salut à tous !

Je suis ravie de faire maintenant partie de ce forum de discussion 😉

Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà voyagé en Egypte par lui même avec les moyens de transport locaux et sans passer par une agence ?

Avec mon ami, nous aimerions juste prendre le vol pour Le Caire et les 2 premières nuits puis faire notre voyage nous-même sur place pour combiner viste et plongées à notre rythme. Beaucoup nous le déconseille. Qu'en pensez-vous ??

Merci d'avance !

A bientôt !

Gribouille.
Aller en Turquie en camping-car English translation pending
by Lacloute · 2004-01-28 · 15 replies
nous pensons partir en vacances 5 semaines en Turquie cet été en Camping car à partir de Lyon.

Ou prendre le ferry (venise, brindisi ou ancône) Quel chaleur fait-il en été sur la côte et à l'intérieur du pays? Où camper(campings, camping sauvage, à la ferme, sur la plage...) Quel est le prix du Gas oil la-bàs quel est l'état des routes et le prix des autoroutes(de icel à ankara) Ou vaut-il mieux débarquer, quel circuit peut on faire pour avoir un aperçu de ce pays. Merci pour les infos
Trajet en Turquie English translation pending
by Sahara · 2004-01-21 · 3 replies
Bonjour tout le monde,

je souhaiterais partir en Turquie du 24 avril au 6 juin cette année avec un cousin. Nous cherchons des idées de trajet sachant que nous ferions l'aller-retour de Paris en avion pour profiter des 6 semaines entières. Si notre trajet ne fait pas une boucle, savez-vous d'où nous pouvons reprendre l'avion à l'Est de la Turquie pour le retour ?

D'autre part, nous voudrions voir Istanbul, la côte Sud-Ouest et les montagnes du Nord-Est. Y a-t-il d'autres lieux incontournables ?

Quel est le moyen le plus économique et sympa de se déplacer en Turquie ?

Nous souhaiterions aussi passer 8-10 jours dans un village pour vivre un peu au rythme des habitants. Où trouver les villages les plus accueillants ?

J'ai entendu parler d'habitats troglodytes exceptionnels. Savez-vous où je peux les trouver ?

Merci pour tout !

Guillaume
Liban en voiture English translation pending
by Hans · 2004-01-03 · 7 replies
Bonjour, je souhaite me rendre au Liban via la Syrie avec mon vehicule personnel.

On m a dit qu il etait impossible de rentrer au Liban avec un vehicule diesel quelque soit son age, ainsi qu avec une voiture essence de + de 5 ans .Avez vous des infos a ce sujet ainsi que sur le montant des taxes a payer pour la voiture essence .

Merci d avance . Hans
Arg-e-Bam....... English translation pending
by Alan · 2003-12-30 · 13 replies
Un de mes nombreux rêves de voyageur était d'enmener ma princesse cueillir des roses à Ispahan et d'aller les effeuiller dans les ruelles de la cité de Arg-e-Bam, tout là bas aux confins du désert, juste avant la frontière avec le Baluchistan.....tout un voyage déjà par les mots....

C'était une cité mythique et la citadelle de Bam, avec ses murs de boue, surplombait la vieille ville avec ses maisons construites autour d'une cour centrale et dont les murs sont un mélande de boue et de paille, on la disait la plus belle ville de terre au monde et elle avait résisté à bien des tremblements de terre déjà.....

Le destin une nouvelle fois s'en est mêlé, on parle maintenant de 50 000 morts, et les couchers de soleil ne seront plus jamais pareils, c'est toute une histoire qui disparaît et des coutumes qui ne seront plus retranscrites, bien des anciens ayant disparus à tout jamais....

Je suis sur que certains d'entre nous sont allés voir ce lieu et ce serait rendre hommage aux disparus que de nous raconter votre voyage avec une simple anecdote, rien que pour montrer que l'on est solidaire avec leur malheur, ne serait ce que par quelques mots.....

Merci,
Voyage en 4X4 en Afrique de l'Ouest English translation pending
by Adele · 2003-11-22 · 2 replies
bonjour,

je voudrais parcourir le Mali, Burkina, Togo, Bénin, Guinée... et je me pose diverses questions d'ordre pratique :

a quel prix minimum peut-on louer un 4X4 de bonne qualité (comment s'assurer de cette qualité?), les stations essence sont-elles fréquentes (combien coûte un plein?), où et à quel prix faire réparer la voiture si elle tombe en panne etc...

comment payer les choses courantes et les grosses sommes (travellers chèques? liquide...oui, mais est-ce facile d'en retirer?) Y'a t'il des pièges et des arnaques, voire des dangers à éviter???

Je compte sur les plus expérimentés pour m'aider... Merci!!!!!
Présence d'un guide obligatoire en Syrie? English translation pending
by Jo22 · 2003-11-13 · 21 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Un gros souci : nous projettons un voyage en Syrie avec un groupe d'amis (printemps 2004) et l'on nous apprend que le gouvernement syrien impose depuis peu la présence d'un guide. L'un d'entre vous a-t-il entendu parler de cela ?? Le visa collectif pourrait-il y être pour quelque chose ? (auquel cas le visa individuel permettrait de déroger à la règle ???)

A défaut de réponse, savez-vous à qui il faut s'adresser pour obtenir une info fiable (nous ne sommes pas vraiment amateur des mauvaises surprises à l'arrivée, quand il est trop tard pour rebrousser chemin).

Merci !

🏴‍☠️
Voyage humanitaire en Asie du Sud-Est English translation pending
by Wizzwip · 2003-10-17 · 22 replies
🙂 Salut à tous ! Je cherche des associations humanitaires pour partir en Asie du Sud Est de début mai à fin novembre 2004. J'aimerais aider des enfants en difficulté. Merci
Best of des destinations English translation pending
by Douya · 2003-09-24 · 33 replies
Petite pensee que j'ai en surfant un peu partout dans ce forum, quand on regarde le nombre de discussions et messages postes sur les destinations, l'Asie du Sud-Est et l'Afrique sont largement en tete talones par l'Europe et l'Asie du Sud.

J'ai le sentiment que c'est representatif des choix des voyageurs que nous sommes. 😎

Donc pour eviter la foule et les bains a touristes, il n'y a plus qu'a chercher la destination qui n'a aucune question sur ce forum ! 😏

Bon, c'etait ma reflexion du soir apres une overdose de boulot. Reflexion a 2 balles, basee sur aucune etude scientifique !

Bonne soiree a tous

Douya
Se rendre en Syrie au départ de France English translation pending
by Hans · 2003-09-20 · 8 replies
Bonjour, je cherche par ceux qui l' ont vécu des infos pratiques en particulier sur la Syrie pour 1 voyage -Avril /Mai-en voiture depuis la region lyonnaise via l ' ex Yougoslavie, la Grece .l ' Est de la Turquie, la Syrie, puis continuation sur le Liban et -ou- Israel puis retour par la Turquie, Grece ...avec une partie en ferry depuis la Grece ou la Yougo sur l Italie, ou alors directement en ferry depuis Haifa(Israel ) sur Patras. En particulier : pbs aux frontieres (temps d attente, bakchiches..), possibilitees de campement en Syrie, "pieges" eventuels....etc .

Merci davance . Hans
Suggestions de films - puisque l'on ne peut pas voyager tout le temps... English translation pending
by Numerobis · 2002-12-06 · 125 replies
Voici quelques films qui permettent de voyager un peu alors que le budget se fait trop restreint

Baraka de R. Fricke, un incontournable

Kundun de scorsese, pour les amateurs du Tibet

Little Buddha de Bertoluci, conseillé par un boudhiste (Pettit Boudha)

Ulysse's Gaze de Theopoulos, pour ceux qui aiment les voyages intiatiques (Le Regard d'Ulysse)

A River Run's Throught it de Redford, pour les paysages et la simplicité (La Rivière du 6ème Jour)

3 Seasons de Bui, encore pour la beauté de la simplicité, mais version vietnamiène cette fois (Trois saisons)

la liste pourrait encore être longue, mais je dois vous laisser un peu de place pour me faire une suite...
Megacom SIM card, how does it work?
by Attila · 2026-06-06 · 67 replies
Hi there,

I’ve never bought a SIM card abroad or even used prepaid cards in France...

So I’m wondering how it all works?

You buy a SIM card and pop it into your phone. Okay, so far so good... 😏

But after that?

I can’t find the price of prepaid cards or how they work with MegaCom.

If someone could give me a step-by-step guide... 😊

Thanks! 🙂
South Africa in safari mode: February/March 2026
by Holigirl · 2026-04-17 · 171 replies
Hi everyone,

With my girlfriend Christelle, we’ve chosen South Africa for our first trip to Southern Africa, focusing on safaris—after a long debate with a Cape Town/Kruger combo. But that would’ve meant cutting out St Lucia, which would’ve been harder to fit into another trip. And St Lucia—thanks to Michel and all those travel journals—we really wanted to go there.

So our 11-night itinerary ended up like this, mostly shaped by school holidays: - 3 nights in St Lucia - 1 night in Hluhluwe - 1 night at Mkhaya Game Reserve (Eswatini) - 1 night at Hlane Royal National Park (Eswatini) - 3 nights in Kruger (Berg en Dal / Satara / Tamboti) - 1 night at Shindzela Tented Camp in the Timbavati private reserve - 1 final night in Kruger at Lower Sabie

All of this in the off-season and rainy season, just a month after catastrophic floods that killed over 150 people and seriously damaged Kruger’s infrastructure.

I’ll jump straight to St Lucia and skip the loooong journey to get there (with a layover in Frankfurt, landing in Johannesburg, a domestic flight to Durban, and the rest by rental SUV—First Car Rental, perfect, no complaints).

To motivate readers—especially some familiar faces here—I’ll drop in a first photo.

Back in Tunisia (live account)
by Sinforosa · 2026-04-11 · 58 replies
Hi there,

On this forum, I shared my first trip to Tunisia from mid-February to early March (
https://voyageforum.com/forum/impressions-tunisiennes-en-direct-d11460662/), a stay I enjoyed so much that six weeks later, I’m back in Tunisia for a full 15 days (I return on April 27).

This time, I landed in Monastir on a direct flight from Nice, again with Tunisair. We left about ten minutes late, and the flight lasted around 1 hour 30 minutes. A meal was served on board (cucumber salad with Edam-like cheese, carrots, and two small portions of dishes I couldn’t identify—semolina with peppers, olives, and parsley, two small rolls, a square of processed cheese, and a chocolate cake). It’s worth noting because it’s not common on flights this short.

In February, France and Tunisia were in the same time zone, but now Tunisia is one hour behind. This time difference and the flight duration work perfectly for a short 15-day trip since it takes me a few days to adjust to jet lag.

Luckily, I’d asked my hotel about the taxi fare from the airport because the drivers (there were several around me) didn’t hesitate to quote outrageous prices. The actual fare is 20 dinars, but one asked for 120 dinars. I refused, and another offered 60 dinars. I replied, "That’s too expensive—I’ll take the metro!" (Having tried the Tunis metro, I had no desire to repeat the experience in Monastir with a suitcase!). I started walking toward the metro, and one of the drivers caught up with me, saying, "20 dinars is fine!" I’ll skip the details, but the negotiation took a little while. When I arrived at the hotel, I told the receptionist someone had asked for 120 dinars. He put his hands to his head and said, "They’re awful!" He remembered our phone call two days earlier when I’d booked (he’s the one who told me I could take the metro).

The Mezri Hotel isn’t expensive. I got a sea-view room for 75 dinars (22 €). (I’d booked a balcony room for 90 dinars but wouldn’t have had time to enjoy it.) It’s well-located but noisy because there’s no double glazing. The receptionist is a very kind older gentleman. He called a friend whose wife is from Tozeur to find out if I should take a bus or a *louage* tomorrow and what time.

I arrived at the hotel around 7:00 PM and had time to stroll along the corniche to the ribat. Despite some run-down buildings, the seaside seemed livelier and cheerier than Sousse’s.

Monastir is the hometown of former president Bourguiba. I passed his mausoleum by taxi. There are Tunisian flags along the avenue by the sea because every year on April 6—the anniversary of Habib Bourguiba’s death—the president of the Republic visits the Bourguiba Mausoleum in Monastir to pay respects.

The taxi driver mentioned other Tunisian presidents. He complained about rising prices and insecurity, blaming President Kaïs Saïed (I’d already heard that security was better under Ben Ali).

At the end of my stay, I’ll take time to explore Monastir, but tomorrow morning, I’m off to Tozeur—a long bus ride awaits me.





TO BE CONTINUED....
From Mexico to the Wonderful Chiapas
by Phil31600 · 2026-03-24 · 49 replies


This one-month trip, from January 18 to February 17, 2026, allowed us to visit Mexico City and travel through the states of Puebla, Oaxaca, and Chiapas. We mainly used buses (ADO company) for medium and long distances and colectivos or taxis (or Uber) for shorter trips. Before leaving, I had contacted several people on the ground: Harry, a Vendéan settled in Oaxaca offering, among other things, discoveries of artisan villages or the Monte Albán site, and Oscar in Comitán de Domínguez. I’ll come back to our meeting with Oscar, who runs a local agency (CVL Travel Turismo Alternativo & Corre la voz) and owns a very pleasant hostel, a real highlight of our trip. Our journey took place in 8 stages on a loop starting from Mexico City. The connections between each were made by day or night buses depending on the trip duration. I had booked our seats in advance, either directly on the ADO company’s website or through booking platforms depending on the rates offered. Note that by planning ahead, I was able to benefit from very interesting "Early Booking" rates. There are several comfort classes. For all our trips, I had booked seats in Primera class buses, except for two in GL (Grand Luxe) class. The rates are very reasonable, and the buses turned out to be comfortable or even very comfortable (only the basic seat recline might surprise you).

Our itinerary and number of days per stage: Stage 1 – Mexico City: 4 days Stage 2 – Puebla: 2 days Stage 3 – Oaxaca: 4 days Stage 4 – San Agustinillo: 4 days Stage 5 – San Cristóbal de las Casas: 3 days Stage 6 – Comitán de Domínguez: 6 days Stage 7 – Palenque: 4 days Stage 8 – Mexico City: 2 days If I were to do it again, I’d remove one day from Palenque and add it either to Puebla or San Cristóbal to visit nearby sites or villages, or to San Agustinillo to enjoy one more day by the Pacific Ocean.

Stage 1: Mexico City (2,200 m / 9.2 million inhabitants) We arrived in the Mexican capital around 10:00 PM. The simplified customs process was very quick. After exchanging some money at the airport, we took a taxi to our youth hostel. We got around the capital on foot, of course, but also by metro. Signs are very rare, and we took the train in the wrong direction several times. After a few mistakes, we systematically asked on the platform if we were going the right way. The metro is very affordable. You need to get a rechargeable card (the Tarjeta de Movilidad Integrada) and top it up as needed. This card (less than 1 €) isn’t personal, so there’s no need to get one per person.

Mexico City: Day 1.



Visits and walks of the day (note: many museums are closed on Mondays): The Zócalo or Constitution Square: it’s one of the most beautiful, largest (195m x 240m), and oldest squares in the world. This is where Cortés decided to build the center of the new Spanish city on the site of the former Tenochtitlan market. Stones from the pyramids were used to pave the esplanade and build the surrounding colonial churches and buildings. During our visit, the huge square was covered with (resin) cacti, the theme of the temporary exhibition at the time. Indeed, temporary events or exhibitions take place here throughout the year. It’s also the endpoint for many protest marches.











The cathedral: it’s sinking by one centimeter per year despite massive stabilization work (the collapse of many Mexican buildings—30 cm/year—is due to groundwater pumping). It was built starting in 1571 and completed in... 1813. The modest remains of the Templo Mayor (exterior view): they have high symbolic value, as this monument was the most important in the Mexica Empire.

We then walked through the streets of the historic center to the Santísima Church, unfortunately closed for renovation work. Next, we took the metro to visit one of Mexico’s most important pilgrimage sites: the Insigne y Nacional Basílicas de Santa María de Guadalupe, as well as the Capilla del Cerrito on the hill. The first, dating from the colonial era, is really leaning a lot.



The second, shaped like a rotunda, is very impressive from the inside.



In the basement, there’s a sacred tunic where, in 1531, an image of the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared. A real mystery for scientists, the garment has never deteriorated since that date. Slow-moving conveyor belts allow pilgrims to admire it, preventing crowds from gathering in front of the image for hours. Well thought out!

From the top of the Capilla del Cerrito, you get beautiful views of huge Mexico City.

Qatar Airways: cancellation and incomplete rescheduling
by Japanboy64 · 2026-03-17 · 30 replies
So, even before starting my explanation, I’d like to introduce myself since this is my first post on the forum :) I’m Jérôme, a huge Asia enthusiast, and I’m currently in the process of moving to Japan with my family in 2028.

Now, onto the topic :)

We’re a family of four traveling together to Seoul, with two separate bookings.

Our original itinerary was: Madrid → Doha → Seoul (March 23–24)

The issue is that our entire outbound flight was canceled, and the airline simply rescheduled the Madrid → Doha leg. Now we’re left with an incomplete journey, with no solution to reach our final destination (Seoul).

Since then:

- Can’t modify flights online (technical error every time) - Can’t get help via chat or WhatsApp - Phone support is unreachable, and the usual French number isn’t working right now

We don’t want a refund. We just want to be rerouted to Seoul, as our original ticket promised.

We’re flexible:

- On dates (we can leave on March 21 or 22 instead of the 23rd) - On the itinerary (different layovers if needed)

Have any of you dealt with this before? Do you know how to unlock a booking in this case or get a rerouting? We’re considering going straight to the airport to resolve it at the Qatar Airways counter....

Thanks so much for your help! 😊
Bright red and a headache
by UnaMilanese · 2025-11-22 · 71 replies
Hello 🙂

I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.

Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.

A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.

"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"

I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.

But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.

Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.

Catherine
Planning 3 weeks in Sulawesi
by Chefetmaman · 2025-10-15 · 9 replies
My kids are dreaming of discovering Indonesia this summer—they’ll be celebrating their 15th and 20th birthdays! For the occasion, I was thinking of Sulawesi, a bit farther from Bali’s crowds.

I usually plan my trips myself, but I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to transportation and logistics. We’d be there for about 18 days.

I’ve looked into guided tours, but the prices are pretty high. North or south for 3 weeks? Anyone have any firsthand experience to share?
September 2025 Contest Discussion: World Signs
by Attila · 2025-09-02 · 88 replies
For the contest, it's here !
3 weeks in Bali in 2025
by FamilleUS · 2025-08-22 · 57 replies
We’ve read it all about Bali: mass tourism, non-stop parties, ferry disasters, the kingdom of “Instagrammers,” pollution, “Bali belly”... But luckily, this island isn’t just about Kuta’s beaches and the Lempuyang Temple.

Sure, it’s not as exotic or off-the-beaten-path as other Indonesian islands (the Moluccas, Timor, Flores...), but we spent 3 weeks there and loved it!

Our (planned) itinerary in 7 stops: - Ubud (4 nights) - Sidemen (2 nights) - Gili Meno (3 nights) - Amed (2 nights) - Pemuteran (4 nights) - Munduk (2 nights) - Jatiluwih (2 nights)



We booked our accommodations in advance, and for the rest (drivers, activities...), we took it day by day with help from the homestays (making sure to contact them a few days ahead via WhatsApp).

In the end, it’s an “easy” destination, very affordable, and one that’s managed to keep a certain authenticity.

One-week itinerary for Luxor and Aswan
by Balata · 2025-07-23 · 14 replies
Hello, We’d like to spend a week in Luxor and Aswan in February. I’d asked a tour operator to organize the trip for us, but I think it’s way too expensive for what’s included. So I’m going to try to plan it myself, and with your help if you don’t mind. We’re 76 and 77 years old and in good shape, but I doubt we’ll be getting up at 6 a.m. every day. I bought a paper guidebook, but I haven’t read it all yet. We arrive on a Saturday at 5 p.m. and leave the following Saturday at 6 p.m. Here’s what I’d like to do: The first three days in Luxor: - Valley of the Kings: 3 tombs + Seti I and Ramses VI, and Hatshepsut; see the Colossi of Memnon along the way. Ramesseum??? First question: How much time do we need for this? I can’t figure it out. Can we see anything else the same day without feeling overwhelmed or too tired?

- Karnak Temple: Should we start with it or with Luxor Temple? How much time for both? Sound and light show in the evening? Or just Luxor Temple illuminated? Can the Avenue of Sphinxes be seen separately?

- Valley of the Nobles (2 combined tickets), Artisans’ Village, and Medinet Habu: Same question—how much time? Can we see anything else?

No one ever talks about lunch or going back to visit in the afternoon. Is it too hot? I saw there are one or two small restaurants near the temples—do you know any? Or is it better to go back to Luxor?

What’s a fair price for a taxi for a day like this? We’ll probably stay on the East Bank.

- Day 4: Then we’d like to go to Aswan, stopping at Edfu and Kom Ombo along the way. I’ve seen prices around 140 € for a private car with a driver.

- Day 5: Unfortunately, no matter how I rearrange the days, we’ll only have one day for Abu Simbel. I’ve seen prices around 140–150 €. I don’t plan on getting up at 3 a.m.—what time should we leave so it’s not too bad? We won’t have much time to explore Aswan after two days on the road plus a third to return to Luxor.

- Day 6: Philae Temple—I’ve read a lot of comments saying it’s a madhouse to get the boat. How much should we pay to avoid haggling for hours??? How much time for the visit? Return to Luxor—I was tempted to take the train, but so far I’ve only seen options very early in the morning. The price is also around 150 €. - Day 7: In Luxor, since our flight leaves at 6 p.m., I thought we’d visit the Luxor Museum. Does this itinerary seem reasonable? Is there another way to organize it? Of course, if you know drivers who offer good rates, I’m interested—but I want a good driver who doesn’t drive too fast, a car with AC and in good condition for the long trips (we’re not 20 anymore). Thanks for reading this far, and all your advice is welcome! Annaïck
Middle East Conflict and Flights to the USA
by Patrick91230 · 2025-06-23 · 31 replies
Hi,

My friend is supposed to leave on June 26th for Philadelphia. American Airlines called him last night to ask him to cancel or postpone his flight because they’re canceling around a hundred flights from Europe, mainly due to fears of retaliatory attacks after the bombings in Iran. Their offer is either to postpone with compensation (the amount would be known once he accepts) or to cancel completely with a refund and the standard compensation for flights departing from Europe. The airline gave him until 24 hours before departure to decide. Otherwise, he can still go to the airport for now with no obligation to board since he’s traveling alone—they’re prioritizing families in case of overbooking due to some flight cancellations. The same goes for the return flight. In short, it’s total chaos. We’re waiting until tonight or tomorrow to decide whether to cancel outright.
West USA Road Trip August 2022
by Mitch341 · 2025-05-16 · 79 replies
Hello everyone,

I’m starting a travel journal about the amazing round trip I took in August 2022 with a big circuit through the US West.

Here’s what I posted on another travel forum back when VoyageForum hadn’t yet regained its freedom. 😉

Hello!

We got back yesterday in the middle of the afternoon, and here’s a quick first take on the 2022 round trip.

Has America changed? You could say that, yeah. For better? For worse? Who knows. A massive circuit—nearly 8,000 kilometers, actually around 5,000–6,000 miles.

Round-trip flights went smoothly, except for Air France on the way back, which let a rather large dog in the cabin with an owner who let it roam around the plane. Cool, Air France... Outrageous!

The rough itinerary: Salt Lake City. Jackson Hole–Grand Teton. Yellowstone. Cody. Rock Springs. Moab–Arches–Canyonlands. Monument Valley. Grand Canyon. Bryce Canyon. Zion Park. Las Vegas. Death Valley. Mammoth Lakes. Tioga Road. Mariposa. Yosemite Valley. San Francisco.

Tourists on site—a sociological study:

Italians: Always nice but just as loud as ever! Hispanics: Same as the Italians, just a different language. Germans: *Ein, zwei, ach mein Gott!* Order and discipline! Americans: Still no manners whatsoever. Pathetic. I’m only talking about the tourists, not the locals who work there. Quebecers: Pure joy! English-speaking Canadians: Same as the Americans. Asians: For the Japanese, it’s perfect. But the others from the Middle Kingdom... Let’s not start a war over this. There’s already Ukraine going on. And yet... Israelis: Still no manners. The Kibbutz kids are the bane of this country. French: Some excellent, some very good, some good, and some... not much.

Note that tourists in the northern part of the trip were much better behaved than those in the south. "Hello," "Goodbye," offering a hand? Etc. Few Asians in Grand Teton and Yellowstone. Lots of locals. The same goes for hotel staff in the northern part—more attentive. Really cool!

On the other hand, we were pretty surprised not to encounter any African-American locals in Montana, Wyoming, Utah, or even Arizona—whether tourists or employees. It’s quite striking, to be honest.

The Hotels:

Holiday Inn - 206 South West Temple, Salt Lake City, UT 84101, United States. A modern but soulless hotel. Basically, a place to pass through. Minimal breakfast.

Miller Park Lodge - 155 North Jackson Street - Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Not a hotel but a luxury motel. 750 € for two nights!! No breakfast. Huge room where you could hold a tea dance!! Well-located. No staff. Only room of the month-long stay that was fully redone during those two days.

Best Western Weston Inn. 103 Gibbon Avenue, West Yellowstone, MT 59758 Well-located, not far from the park entrance. Minimal breakfast. Friendly staff. Room refreshed every two days.

Best Western Sunset Inn. 1601 8th St, Cody, 82414-4134 Very good. Quiet. Good breakfast. Friendly staff.

Baymont by Wyndham 2717 Dewar Drive, Rock Springs, WY 82901 Very good. Quiet. Good breakfast. Friendly staff. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene!

Wingate by Wyndham Moab. 126 South Highway 191, Moab, 84532 End of the "family" hotels. Start of the tourist hotels. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

Hampton Inn Kayenta. US Highway 160, Kayenta, AZ 86033, United States A stopover hotel run by the Navajos. Friendly staff wearing masks. Lots of people. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

La Quinta by Wyndham Williams. 1100 Cataract Lake Rd, Williams, AZ 86046, United States Finally, Route 66 for 500 meters! The staff is there. Nothing more. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

BEST WESTERN PLUS Ruby's Inn. 26 South Main Street, Bryce Canyon City, UT 84764, United States A factory!!! Great Hispanic or Romanian staff! A liquor store in the hotel! Awesome! Very good breakfast, but go early because the crowd—and the jerks—are there! Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene!

BEST WESTERN Casino Royale - 3411 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Strip, Las Vegas Good hotel at a reasonable price. No breakfast, but Denny’s is next door. Quiet hotel despite the casino. Friendly staff. No memory of seeing any pets!

Shilo Inn Mammoth Lake. 2963 Main Street, Mammoth Lake Disastrous! Ineffective security system. Fire doors propped open with wooden wedges. Tiny breakfast room. No staff in the room. Tables not cleaned. Minimal breakfast. Gross pool. Rooms need work. No, the whole hotel needs to be redone. They say they’re renovating. They’d be better off tearing it down. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Very bad memory. Apparently, there’s supposed to be staff in this hotel.

Quality Inn Yosemite Valley Gateway. 4994 Bullion Street, Mariposa, CA 95338 Hotel or motel? Booking should clean up its listings! No room refresh! Minimal breakfast. The staff is there. Nothing more.

Comfort Inn by the Bay. 775 Van Ness Avenue, Marina District, San Francisco No room refresh in four days! Minimal breakfast. Friendly and helpful staff. Well-located. Depends on what for, but well-located.

And then there are those who steal apples from the breakfast to put in their bags in the morning, those who fill up their famous US water bottles with orange juice from the breakfast pump, those who don’t clear their tables—I could go on. And also, those who don’t say hello or respond to a greeting!

Met some super nice French people (in the northern parks)! They’ll recognize themselves!

And the magic phrase that opens doors with Americans: "Do you speak French? OK, good!" Laughter guaranteed!

Don’t try that with Asians who run souvenir shops in big cities—they have no sense of humor unless it’s about the color of the green bill.

The park rangers are always available! Great!

And 5,000 photos to sort and organize, plus a few hours of dashcam videos!

See you soon.

Until the next update...
Is crossing Iran to Pakistan safe?
by Julie09400 · 2025-04-17 · 85 replies
Hi there,

We’d like to travel overland from Turkey to India in our converted van, but there are very few options these days. Crossing Iran seems risky and not particularly safe. Has anyone here done it? If so, which route did you take to minimize safety concerns?

Thanks for your replies, Julie 😎
What are the criteria that make you choose one destination over another?
by Attila · 2025-03-02 · 182 replies
Hi there,

The title might be a bit long, but I hope it’s completely understandable!

When it comes to choosing your next trip, what tips the scales in favor of Eritrea over Ibiza?

Why pick Canada over French Polynesia?

The price? A magazine or TV report, a travel journal, an Instagram ad? Ease of travel? Minimal time difference? The country that has the most in common with all the trip participants? Activities? Relaxation? The desire to push your limits?

A photo?



What else, I wonder...

Personally, I often prioritize simple destinations (no administrative hassles), where I’m not at risk (nothing extraordinary like getting kidnapped by Daesh or ending up in a jail cell because the current geopolitics aren’t favorable to my passport, etc.), and where I can drive.

Wide-open natural spaces are more my thing than urban anthills.

Finally, I try not to spend three days on a plane to reach my destination, and I aim for a maximum budget of 3500 € (for 3 weeks) in comfortable conditions—that means charming hotels, good meals, etc.

What about you?🙂
So where are they and what are they doing?
by Jojoone1 · 2025-01-31 · 648 replies
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.

VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.

Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.

Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?

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