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Où aller en Indonésie? English translation pending
by Shaiia · 2004-01-12 · 33 replies
Bonjour,

Je pars 7 semaines en Indonésie cet été.

J'avais prévu un grand tour : Sumatra (entre 15 et 20 jours), Bornéo (rapidement), Sulawesi et les petites îles entre Sulawesi et Lombok (10 jours), Lombok (5 jours), Bali (pas sûr) et Java (10 jours). Tout ça en bateau, train, bus, camionette, vélo, etc

Auriez-vous des infos sur les conditions de voyage, notamment entre les îles (pas envie de me faire attaquer par un bateau pirate !)?

Eventuellement, si vous avez de bons plans Guest House, ça m'intéresse aussi.

Merci d'avance

Shaiia
Le Transsibérien, extraits de carnets de route, seconde partie English translation pending
by Loopkin · 2003-12-22 · 11 replies
Samedi 13/09/03, Irkoutsk, 15:30 LOC, 10:30 MOS J'attends le bus de 16h30 pour Listvianka. J'ai manqué le précédent à cause d'une erreur de débutant relative au décalage horaire. J'avais fini par trouver au centre ville un cyber-café, où j'envoyais tranquillement mes premiers mails d'une série que je prévoyais longue, quand j'ai vu l'heure sur l'ordinateur. J'ai tout d'abord pensé que, comme d'habitude, il n'étais pas à l'heure du lieu dans lequel nous nous trouvions lui et moi, mais j'ai alors immédiatement pensé à ce qui vient naturellement suite à une telle réflexion: j'avais changé de fuseau horaire, et j'avais oublié de donner à manger à ma montre une heure de plus. La cinquième depuis Moscou. J'en suis quitte pour prendre le prochain bus, seule conséquence de cette erreur. J'ai donc une heure d'attente en sus à dépenser dans cette gare routière. J'en profite pour observer, et je me retrouve plongé quatre ans en arrière, à la gare routière de Bernaoul. J'ai trop pris l'habitude de resserrer l'écriture, si bien que j'oublie de sauter de nouveau les lignes, quand bien même j'ai acheté un nouveau cahier, flambant neuf, que je réserve pour plus tard. Pour changer mon billet de car, ce ne fut pas une mince affaire. Je me serais cru dans une parodie particulièrement caricaturée. Après avoir fait une première queue, importante, et souvent anarchique, notamment ignorée de certaines vieilles babaïagas à l'air mauvais, quand ce fut mon tour, je me suis fait renvoyer dans mes vingt deux par la caissière, qui m'a dit que les remboursements, c'était la caisse d'à côté. J'ai eu beau lui expliquer que je venais de faire la queue, et que c'était injuste, elle n'en eut, évidemment, cure. La nouvelle queue fut en tout point identique à la première. Ensuite, pour le remboursement, outre les vingt cinq pour cent de frais d'annulation, il a fallu que la caissière remplisse un immense cahier, sur lequel elle devait noter mes noms, prénoms, et patronymes. Je lui ai donné mon passeport, mais elle a fini par se décourager. Ensuite, elle m'a remboursé, lentement, alors que je lui avais bien précisé que je voulais juste prendre le bus d'après. Derrière, ça poussait comme dans un mirage 2000 qui met la post-combustion. Rien que des fait routiniers, au final. J'ai hésité à les relater sur ce cahier, tant ce genre de scènes est banal ici. Avant cet incident somme toute mineur, j'ai visité la ville qui a un certain charme. Les maisons sont de vieilles bâtisses toutes de bois construites, très joliment décorées, mais elles mériteraient un coupe de restauration. Il y a de belles églises, sans trop d'or, pour une fois, peintes avec beaucoup de goût. Le grand marché central est également charmant, véritablement authentique. Avant cela, j'ai réussi à acheter mon billet de train de Ulan Udé à Vladivostok. Départ d'Ulan Ude mardi après midi. En attendant, je vais essayer de visiter le Baïkal, et d'aller par un moyen ou un autre de l'autre côté, en Bouriatie, jusqu'à sa capitale, Ulan Udé. Ce soir, je serai donc à Listvianka, village situé au bord du mythique Lac, et j'espère trouver un petit hôtel sympathique où me poser un peu. Je vais essayer de me laver, et de laver quelques habits.
Pourquoi voyagez-vous en routard? English translation pending
by Ouais · 2003-12-10 · 46 replies
Depuis que je suis membre de ce forum (cela remonte quand meme😎!) tout le monde voyage en "routard", mais pourquoi tout le monde veut voyager en "routard"? Est ce un moyen de s'évader? Est ce un moyen de pouvoir dire en rentrant a la maison: j'ai dormi pour 6 sous et j'ai depensé 10 sous pendant tout le séjour en vous fesant passer pour un héros? Est ce une raison économique?Est un moyen de ce prouver quelques choses? Ou sont les limites du mot "routard", quand et comment devient-on "routard"? Que definissez-vous dans le terme "routard"?

Toutes ces questions me trotent dans la tete, c'est confus, je ne dis jamais que je voyage en routard car je ne sais pas quelle est le mode d'emploi pour le devenir, j'espere avoir une petite lumiere dans vos reponses a+ et bon vent😉!!

julien
Patagonie en hiver? English translation pending
by Ingapirca · 2003-12-04 · 13 replies
Hola todos!!

Je prévois de partir en Argentine et au Chili de juillet à septembre prochain et je me demande s'il est raisonnable de ma part d'envisager de visiter la Patagonie pendant cette période-la ou si je dois me contenter uniquement de la partie Nord de ces pays. Ce n'est pas forcément parce que je crainds le froid mais j'aimerais savoir si les lignes de bus sont maintenues et certains hôtels ouverts en Patagonie et en Terre de Feu à cette période, de même si le ferry assure la liaison entre Puerto Montt et Puerto Natales au Chili...

Quelqu'un y étant allé en hiver pourrait-il me faire part de son expérience?

Muchas gracias!
Sponsors.... English translation pending
by Alan · 2003-05-31 · 31 replies
Oui, c'est un peu bizarre le nombre de voyageurs qui veulent maintenant se faire sponsoriser. Vous me direz pour un voyage humanitaire ou peut être aller chercher des gens en difficulté quelquepart....non, même pas, juste pour se payer le luxe de voyager à moindre frais, et je ne sais pas vous, mais je trouve celà un peu énervant !

Un de nos amis voyageurs, bien connu sur ce forum et que j'apprécie pour ses judicieuses remarques, nous dit qu'il faut ne compter que sur soi même et que c'est là la base de l'aventure, et je le rejoins entièrement car autrement pourquoi ne pas demander à nos gouvernants de créer une allocation voyage profitable à tous, c'est un peu exagéré mais il n'y a pas de raison que certains obtiennent des aides de soi disants sponsors, et que d'autres ne goutent jamais aux joies du voyage sous prétexte qu'ils n'ont pas d'argent.

La préparation d'un voyage c'est aussi le financement il est vrai, mais quelle plus grande joie que le fruit de son labeur pour pouvoir partir....enfin. Déjà avec les moyens de communications actuels, il est aisé de relier n'importe quel point du globe, mais si en plus on peut partir à n'importe quel moment grâce à je ne sais quel généreux mécène, ou se trouve alors la recherche du plaisir de pouvoir partir un jour pour sa destination tant révée.

Qu'en pensez vous ?
16 days with family in La Gomera (Canary Islands)
by Pagaljavab · 2026-08-14 · 45 replies
Preamble: Why La Gomera?

When we started looking for a summer destination a few months ago, our first criterion was to avoid extreme heat and heatwaves. We had already been to Norway two years ago and are considering going back in the future for other occasions. So, we had some fun asking ChatGPT which destinations enjoyed a mild climate during the summer without going too far. Among the list provided by the AI were the Canary Islands... The idea of a place we wouldn’t have thought of first, both not too far away and exotic enough, appealed to us: “Hmm, why not?”

This destination had never really attracted me, though Magali was a bit more interested. Five years earlier, COVID had caused a short break in my professional activity, and I had planned a trip because the flight price was attractive, and I was looking for a destination different from what usually appeals to me, more than out of deep interest. From a distance and with a social judgment I acknowledge (it’s not great, but it’s not completely wrong), I had the image of a destination for party-goers enjoying the sun without the slightest interest in local culture, with concrete coastlines and denatured landscapes—everything I detest the most. Still, I had done some quick research on the different islands and spotted Lanzarote for its beautiful volcanic landscapes, hiking trails, beaches, and the impression of a good balance between activity and fewer crowds than Tenerife or Gran Canaria. Then I dropped the idea of going, without ever reconsidering traveling to the Canaries...

Until now! Because we started researching the different islands of the archipelago to see which ones might appeal to us the most. It was La Gomera, the third smallest island of the archipelago, more praised for its hiking trails and preserved nature than for its beaches, away from mass tourism (fifty times fewer tourists than Tenerife) but still a bit more developed than its wild neighbor El Hierro, that caught our attention. Contrary to what might be suggested later, I’m not at all addicted to AI, but I use it from time to time to synthesize quick research or simply for experimentation. Since ChatGPT had started anticipating my tastes lately as if it had become my buddy (often successfully, sometimes off the mark), I asked which Canary Island would suit me best for a trip with my family. The tool answered first with... La Gomera. So, I tested it and teased it a bit to see if this suggestion was well-founded, as the method sometimes makes it contradict itself. But no luck: “You’d appreciate the wild nature of El Hierro, but with family, you’ll find little activity for the kids. You won’t like the touristy vibe of the big islands like Tenerife, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, and Fuerteventura. You could consider La Palma, but it’s really La Gomera that will suit you best, based on your interests and the criteria given.” So, we dug deeper into our research and were convinced without a shadow of a doubt that this island was the one waiting for us.

Without knowing it, we had Canarians in our circle who revealed their origins when they heard about our travel plans. One from Tenerife insisted we’d be better off choosing Tenerife (obviously...) because it also has preserved spots and that La Gomera, “you can explore it in two or three days, you’ll get bored quickly...” The other, a colleague from Gran Canaria who had never visited La Gomera, still recommended it without hesitation because it turned out her parents had just gone there on vacation: they loved it and had encountered few tourists. She also tended to think this destination was usually the subject of short stays, but according to what her parents told her, taking your time there was also a great idea. However, in our research, the idea that La Gomera is an island you can explore in three or four days max kept coming up. So, we considered combining its visit with La Palma or El Hierro, the other two that caught our eye. But hopping between islands by ferry represents a significant budget for non-Canarians, even more so for a family of four. Then, scrutinizing Google Maps, it seemed obvious that two weeks were too short to discover two islands as they deserve, and that there seemed to be plenty to see in La Gomera, given its very unique culture. After all, we read that some people spend several months a year there, others never even leave... Finally, these landscapes and this atmosphere, which seemed to us a mix of Europe, North Africa, and Latin America, tempted us. So, it would be two weeks in La Gomera, deal!

La Gomera is therefore the second... well, the third smallest island of the Canaries since La Graciosa was recently recognized as a fully inhabited island. It has the shape of a rough circle about 20 to 25 kilometers in diameter and has just over 20,000 inhabitants, half of them in its capital, San Sebastián de la Gomera, the only real town. Like its Canarian sisters, La Gomera is a volcanic formation that rose about 10 million years ago. The island is very mountainous and rugged, covered with red and black rocky landscapes. Geological activity has shaped, between the sprawling massifs that end in steep cliffs in the ocean, six coastal valleys with tropical vegetation that have favored human settlement. They divide the island like slices of a cake; from the north clockwise: the agricultural Vallehermoso, the rustic Agulo, the green, humid, and fertile Hermigua, the sunny capital San Sebastián de la Gomera, the southern and isolated Alajeró-Santiago, and the seaside Valle Gran Rey. They constitute the six municipalities (more like cantons to our French understanding) of the territory. The large solidified magma massifs that shape the heart of the island have created a large depression more protected from the sun at its center, allowing the growth of a vast laurel forest, today grouped within the Garajonay National Park, La Gomera’s green lung, which has earned it the status of a World Biosphere Reserve. Its completely European appearance contrasts sharply with the rocky and tropical landscapes of the rest of the island. Thus, the climate varies greatly from one point to another on the island: in summer, you can quickly go from a dry and sunny valley at 35°C to a humid forest area at altitude at 18°C.

La Gomera was populated late. As with the rest of the Canaries, human presence is thought to have begun about 2,000 years ago. Groups of animist Berbers, probably fleeing persecution, gradually populated the archipelago, especially the western islands and La Gomera, becoming its small aboriginal population: the Guanches (or later Gomeros). The animist and pastoral civilization of the Guanches thrived until the Spanish takeover in the 15th century, which, after a short period of harmony and mixing with the indigenous people, suddenly ended in bloodshed... La Gomera later became the “Columbus Island” after Christopher Columbus’s stopover, increasing the blending of populations. In the 20th century, many Gomeros emigrated to Cuba and other Latin American countries in search of a better life, bringing back a mix of cultures and traits quite palpable in today’s Gomeran culture. It is, however, in La Gomera that the vestiges of Guanche culture seem to have left the most traces, in the language, gastronomy, social practices... Moreover, most Gomeros, especially in remote villages, have a particular identifiable type and proudly claim their ancestral roots, even making La Gomera a bit exotic in the eyes of other Canarians.

Perhaps that’s why it has never really wanted to develop its tourist infrastructure too much. If we set aside the tourists who visit for the day by bus or boat from Tenerife on a marked itinerary (and whom we ultimately rarely encounter), La Gomera has remained a hidden gem, a destination focused on nature discovery that attracts hikers, nature-loving divers, and scientists for its fauna and flora, and to a lesser extent, beachgoers who don’t seek overly developed coastlines. Tourist activity is therefore limited. Roughly speaking, you’ll find a majority of Spaniards, including a substantial number of residents from other Canary Islands, many Germans who have a particular fondness for La Gomera and spend long stays there or own second homes, to the point that the German cultural footprint is clearly noticeable in some places (it’s said to be Angela Merkel’s favorite holiday spot), and still quite a few French. The presence of other nationalities seemed negligible to us. Most travelers come mainly for hiking, but it’s also a prime spot for whale watching. Additionally, the seaside resorts of La Gomera—San Sebastián, Santiago, and especially Valle Gran Rey—are well-known destinations for hippies, especially German ones, ranging from chic boho hippies to old-school hippies who’ve been there for decades, quite similar to those you’d meet in India in Goa, Rishikesh, or Paharganj. Thus, practices like naturism, vegetarianism, and local organic production are quite well established in some areas.

Some practical info: - The round-trip flight from Paris to Tenerife cost us 365 € per person (outbound with Transavia, return with EasyJet), including checked luggage and three seats reserved side by side. - We chose two bases to explore the island: one week in Valle Gran Rey, reputed to be the most pleasant of the three seaside resorts, and one week in Hermigua, more mountainous and close to the natural park. We booked two houses with balconies and views: the first at 120 € per night, the second at 99 €. - The round-trip ferry between Tenerife and La Gomera cost us 270 € with the company Baleària Canarias, including discounts for children aged 4 and 12, but I don’t have the exact details. It was a bit cheaper than with the other company, Fred Olsen. - Finally, we rented a car through the agency Cicar for 360 € for 16 days, which comes to 22.50 € per day. - Apart from that, we didn’t plan anything and decided the day before or even the morning of what we wanted to do. We didn’t invest in any paper guide on the Canaries, as information on La Gomera was scarce, but we used the very comprehensive site La Gomera Travel, a travel guide published by the Canary Islands Tourism Council, a real goldmine of almost exhaustive information on the island.

Alright, off we go for 16 days of adventure discovering La Gomera!



And we start the trip with music!

We start the trip with music!
Off on an adventure in Namibia!
by Bibouns51 · 2026-08-18 · 173 replies
April 11 – Day 1

It was winter, a winter with beautiful weather, A season that only exists in the southwest of America, I remember very well what I told you that morning A month ago... A century ago, an eternity ago... We’ll go... wherever you want, whenever you want...

Well, yeah, back from our adventure in our enchanting American West just a month ago, we’re already taking a bite out of one of its lesser-known competitors. "Flo, if you had to pick just one reason to justify your love for the U.S., what would it be?" The greasy, dripping burgers? No, I don’t think I’m going out on a limb by saying it’d be the wide-open spaces... And that’s exactly what our new quest is taking us to—a land on the other side of the globe where the horizon also seems endless, where silence tastes like salty wind and sand, where freedom is measured in kilometers of desert tracks, where the GPS is mostly there to confirm you’re lost in the middle of nowhere... Add to that magic formula the fact that you’ll see more zebras, giraffes, wildebeest, and elephants than people per square kilometer, and you can imagine us setting foot in Southern Africa for the first time, more precisely at the small airport in Windhoek, capital of... of...? Brush up on your geography, damn it! We’re landing in Namibia!!!



To be honest, Namibian landscapes have been flirting with me for ages. So how did I resist this island of temptation for so long? First, the budget. Let’s just say that for the same amount of effort (and kidneys), the bank lets you choose two other adventures almost anywhere else on the planet. Then there were my girls. Yeah, back then, they were too little to dose up on Malarone, the only malaria remedy at the time... Long story short, ten years later, all the planets have aligned. First, I won the Euromillions! Well, almost... Let’s just say my girls are now old enough... not to take Malarone, but to stop following me on all my adventures! Jackpot! "Flo, how about a little two-person caprice, just the two of us, tackling the Namibian tracks?"



As we landed on the runway, first wow effect: The horizon is immense. It’s flat as can be, incredibly flat... So much flat space! Did I mention it was flat?... Looking into the distance, it feels like your gaze could circle the Earth without hitting a single obstacle—until you end up staring at your own backside. "Oh, what a nice view!" Well, it’s the first time I’ve seen my butt from this angle! Touching moment... Sorry, I’m rambling—must be the exhaustion from the three-flight marathon we just powered through via Ethiopia and South Africa... And yet, no time to philosophize about my anatomy. As usual, we want to rack up our first kilometers to be front and center at dawn tomorrow. After wrapping up the tedious Namibian immigration formalities and meeting the 4x4 that’ll be our companion day and night for the next fifteen days, we’re off! We’re not exactly fresh, but we’re ready to tackle the next five hundred kilometers in night mode, cruise control set due south! Just outside Windhoek, the local wildlife—a jackal—welcomes us with a smile: "Welcome to Namibia!" That’s what it said! Honest... Okay, first endless straight road, first flaming sunset, first corrugated dirt track, first Milky Way with zero light pollution... You get it—it’s definitely the day of firsts... First night camping, too, in the big trunk of our Toyota Fortuner parked by the side of the track... The real adventure, the kind that smells under the arms, can finally begin...

The 2026 Southwest USA Road Trip
by Mitch341 · 2026-08-28 · 75 replies
Hi everyone, we're back from a DIY USA road trip we organized from July 31, 2026, to August 26, 2026.

The destination: The Southwest USA, including Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. Roughly 7,000 kilometers covered.

The car: A Chevrolet Equinox for two, rented through BSP Auto and Avis. Inside, we had 2 suitcases, a travel bag, two carry-on bags, a Walmart cooler, photo gear, and water bottles (a 40-pack).

The route: Dallas DFW, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Alpine, El Paso, Tucson, Sedona, Albuquerque, Amarillo, and back to Dallas to finish with a departure from DFW.

The travelers: Two seniors well advanced in years (73 and 75) but still active (nothing too physically demanding—to stay alive and fund our trips), fully independent physically, though a bit less so mentally. Big USA fans, a country where anything is possible. More walkers than hikers, preferring 3-star hotels over roadside motels, Italian restaurants over US food, frequent stops for photos, museums over nothing, naps over forced marches. Not too whiny, just enough to stay French in the land of the "great Satan," as they say. Not great with languages—street English (but handy), and my Spanish is non-existent except for: "Hola! Una cerveza por favor!" That’s about it. My wife understands everything but refuses to speak.

The cost of the road trip: Around 12,000 €, including AF flights, the car, gas, gifts, visits, and everything else. Well managed, since we’d budgeted 13,500 € initially.

The positive side: A delight, with those endless open roads. Museums to discover. The realization of the Hispanic presence and its important history in this part of America. Lovely locals. Tourists who were more or less friendly. A terrible Texan accent that was hard to understand. Gas stations that were like real stores, with prepared food, alcohol sold in Arizona and New Mexico, and employees who were always up for a laugh!

The negative side: The heat throughout the trip... 43°C in Dallas at the end. Impossible to walk the streets. Lots of homeless people in downtown Dallas. Hotel breakfasts that were always the same. You get used to it.

So, it was positive overall, but the concept is starting to wear us out. We might rethink the DIY road trip model for next time. If the man upstairs grants us more time.

Next up, we’ll wait for the first batch of sorted photos to go through the wringer.

See you soon.
Off on an adventure in Réunion!
by Bibouns51 · 2026-09-07 · 31 replies
Week 1 - July 2026

Traveling with just one spare pair of underwear, considering a hot shower a miracle, never staying in the same place too long by sleeping wherever night catches us, taking whatever local, improbable, and rickety transport we can find—this is the DNA of us wanderers. Except this time, the script for our movie is going to be a whole different genre. On paper, the destination doesn’t exactly scream epic adventure: Réunion! And what’s more... we won’t be two, or four, or even ten. We’ll be a solid thirty. All from the same family. Yes, thirty. At this point, it’s not just a trip—it’s a summer camp on the move! Why inflict this on such a peaceful island? Because my brother decided to get married there with his lovely bride. A great idea, you might say... especially when it involves relocating the equivalent of a small Ardennes village 10,000 kilometers from home for three weeks! So who’s stepping up to be the guide and wave the little flag?



So, for an exceptional trip, exceptional stories! Don’t worry, the debates at the supermarket over whether to choose plain chips or roast chicken chips, the beach picnics washed down with ti’ punch, and other rougail sausages to digest by the pool will only make it into the family archives. Here, I’ll stick to the tales of our beautiful escapes, the ones where we explore the wild corners of this little volcanic rock planted in the middle of the Indian Ocean. So where exactly are we headed?



For the first week—the subject of this first installment—we’re taking it easy. We’ll start by rediscovering the coastline, from the Souffleur in Saint-Leu to the Hermitage lagoon, before a little trip to the Cirque de Cilaos and its legendary road with 400 turns, just to get our legs warmed up.













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