nous sommes un couple actuellement en australie pour un an. Nous projetons de nous arrêter environ deux mois et demi en Asie du sud est avant le retour en France.
nous n'avons pas encore pris nos billets retour mais notre visa se finit le 1er octobre en Australie, ce séjour concernerait donc la période de fin septembre à mi décembre.
Nous souhaitons si possible découvrir les pays suivant : Thailande, Laos, Vietnam et Cambodge.
Nous souhaiterions avoir vos avis sur le choix d'itinéraire entre ces 4 pays ( par exemple arrivée bangkok, départ hanoi, ou inversement ), puis quels endroits à voir absolument ( beaux paysages, rencontre avec les locaux, en évitant le tourisme de masse ) et enfin si certaines personnes ont fait le même type de voyage, quel est le budget approximatif à prévoir ( sac à dos, bus, train et logement pas cher )
merci d'avance pour votre aide en espérant que nos questions aient des réponses.
Commencer par le Vietnam car il faut froid dans le nord fin-novembre-début décembre (plus brouillards en Haute Région)
Au Vietnam à part sur les grands axes, les bus publics sont une galère et il n'y a que 4 lignes de train: Saigon-Hanoi, Hanoi-Haiphong, Hanoi-Langson et Hanoi-Sapa (les trains de nuit couchettes molles sont très pratiques car vous gagnez des jours de visite)
Ceci dit, vous donner un itinéraire est très difficile ! Cela dépend de ce qui vous interesse ; plages ?, Trekkings ? Monuments historiques ? Evidemment, il y a quelques "Incontournables, notemment les temples d'Angkor -des "vieilles pierres" comme le disait un membre, mais c'est époustouflant ! 😏 ) et la baie d'Halong (où il faut savoir où "mettre les pieds" question jonques)
Le problème est que le Laos et la Vietnam sont parallèles Nord-Sud donc il faut zigzaguer d'un pays à l'autre si on veut tout voir
EN GROS, je dirais (mais les avis peuvent être partagés évidemment)
Arriver à Hanoi (1 jour)
Halong (2 jours)
La Haute Région (5-7 jours)
Sapa-Dien Bien Phu
Entrer au Laos par DBP
Le Nord Laos avec Luang Prabang (5-7 jours)
Le Centre du Laos
Re-rentrer au Vietnam par Shavannaket-Hue
Hue 2 jours
Bus de jour Hue-Danang-Hoi An (3-5 jours)
Descendre sur Saigon (train de nuit ou mieux avion)
Le delta du Mékong (3-4 jours)
Passer au Cambodge
Phom Penh (2 jours, c'est très sympa , )
Les temples d'Angkor (3 jours minimum)
Bus Siem Reap -Bangkok
La Thailande
Pour faire ça, il vous faut un visa vietnamien entrées multiples (pas besoin de visa pour les autres pays, ils vous le donnent quand vs y entrez) ; voir tous les postes sur la lettre d'invitation pour le visa Vietnam à l'arrivée à Hanoi (LETTRE NON VALABLE SI VOUS RENTREZ AU VIETNAM NON PAR UN VOL INTERNATIONAL)(acampge)
Pour le logement pas cher, ce n'est pas un problème, on trouve partout des petits hôtels de routards à $10 (intérieur des pays) -$15 (grandes villes). On y mange pour pas cher non plus ($2-6) et au Vietnam, les trains de nuit sont bon marché aussi (Hanoi-Sapa en couchettes molles $60 AR)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je suis aller l'anne derniere en asie du sud est, nous sommes restes 4 mois en tout, nous avons visite juste trois pays, la Thailande, le Laos et le Cambodge, et tout depend de ce que vous rechercher mais pour nous quatre mois pour visiter 3 pays on etait a la limite tres courts, bien sur sa depend es que tu recherches comme je di, il i a des gens que en un mois visiten les 4 pays, mais en mon opinion, ne voient pas grand choce mise apart les temples d'Angkor, la baie d'Along , Luang prabang et les belles plages thais...
Nous on a depense environs 1500e par mois a deux, avec transports, logement, nourriture et activites, on a voyage simple mais sans se priver pour autant, sa depend de vous, et de es que vous aller faire lavas...
si vous fouiez le tourisme de masse je vous conseillere le nord du laos et le cambodge ( mise a part Siem Reap, tres touristique , mais inconturnable) et a eviter Sihanoukville blande de touristes
Nous on a pas zigzage, on a faite pays par pays en commençant par le sud de la thailande et en remontant jusqu'au le nord, nord Laos en descendant jusqu'a le sud puis le Cambodge, mais ce sure que si vous voulez faire le Vietnam du nord au sud il est plut etre milleur de zigzager...
Une fois ton choix faite sur les pays si tu veut m ecrire en prive je pourrais te donner quelques endroits pas trop touristiques, notament au Laos et au Cambodge...
Bon choix et bon trip a vous!!
L'ocasion il faut la chercher, ne pas attendre que elle arrive...
merci larsay pour tes renseignements qui nous seront très utiles, et désolé pour le temps de réponse mais c'est pas facile de trouver internet de partout en australie!!
du coup on pense arriver a hanoi et partir de bangkok comme tu l'a suggéré. le mieux effectivement sera de zigzaguer entre vietnam et laos pour gagner du temps.
avez vous des coins coup de coeur au niveau des paysages et des régions chaleureuses a faire partager?
pour la thailande, est ce que ca vaut le coup de passer du temps dans le nord?
nous aimerions quand meme voir des jolies plages et/ou des iles. quels coins sympas vous nous recommanderiez en sud- thailande et quels coins sont a éviter?....( les iles phi phi par exemple on l'air belles mais surbookées)
merci pour tes indications. C'est vrai que c'est court 2 mois et demi pour découvrir ces 4 pays mais pour le coup nous pouvons pas rester plus longtemps faute de temps et de budget car nous rentrerons d'un an en australie. nous profitons justement de ce long trajet pour s'arrêter en asie. c'est pour ses raisons d'ailleurs de court séjour, que nous demandions de l'aide car pas facile d'organiser un voyage si court.
Nous aimerions quand même voir ces 4 pays sans je pense s'attarder dans les coins qui ne valent pas vraiment le coup ^par exemple je sais pas nord thailande? ou autres?.
nous aimerons voir de beaux paysages, aller à la rencontre du peuple dans des villages chaleureux et passer dans les coins touristiques que pour les incontournables! puis biensûr voir de belles plages ou iles mais sans s'y attarder non plus (ce n'est pas notre but de voyage)
J'aurais grand plaisir à vous faire partager mes infos sur le sujet, mais je vais encore me faire agresser d'une manière insultante et mal élevée par un certains nombres d'énergumènes bien connus sur ce forum qui prensent qu'ils sont les seuls à avoir vu des beaux sites (et, le pire, ils sont persuadés qu'ils les ont tous vus) et pour qui la contradition doit absolument être faite sur un ton désagréable. D'ailleurs, ils ne vous donneront AUCUNE info TRES PRECISE sur comment aller où ils sont allés, où y coucher, y manger, y trouver un guide local, louer une moto, etc.; seule les intéresse de semer la zizanie, et pour ça; ils sont très forts ! Donc, RV en MP
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.