Salut à tous,
actuellement en Mongolie où j'ai encore un mois de visa, je compte ensuite passer 2 ou 3 mois en Chine. J'ai envie d'acheter une moto (genre shineway 150) pour traverser le pays jusqu'à la frontière vietnamienne.
Je voudrais savoir si certains l'avaient déjà fait, si le prix est le même qu'en Mongolie (500€ pour une neuve, revente environ moitié prix).
Quelles sont les formalités administratives? La revente est-elle facile?
Enfin, je voudrais savoir si à tout hasard vous connaitriez un bouquin de mécanique moto pour le nul que je suis en la matière? Je vais prendre des cours de chinois (j'ai les bases) pdt qques semaines et j'aimerais savoir un peu comment me débrouiller en cas de pépin.
actuellement en Mongolie où j'ai encore un mois de visa, je compte ensuite passer 2 ou 3 mois en Chine. J'ai envie d'acheter une moto (genre shineway 150) pour traverser le pays jusqu'à la frontière vietnamienne.
Je voudrais savoir si certains l'avaient déjà fait, si le prix est le même qu'en Mongolie (500€ pour une neuve, revente environ moitié prix).
Quelles sont les formalités administratives? La revente est-elle facile?
pour acheter une moto, c est facile, les formalites administratives se limitent a mettre la main dans sa poche et a sortir assez de billets
apres, ca se complique: impossible d'avoir le permis chinois avec un visa touristique. Il est bien sûr interdit de conduire avec un permis étranger, le permis international n'est pas valable. Si par hasard tu obtiens un visa de travail et que tu deviens résident, tu pourras passer le permis. Mais là aussi, rien n'est simple : si les choses ne se sont pas assouplies depuis quelques années (rien ne l indique), le permis que tu obtiendrais ne t autoriserait à conduire que dans la région où tu travailles. Si tu veux pousser ton exploration plus loin, il faudra obtenir une sorte de visa.
Il y a quelques années, les Français qui travaillaient pour une grande entreprise française en Chine avaient pour consigne d'appeler immédiatement un employé chinois de l entreprise chargé de gérer les relations avec la police en cas de contrôle. J'ai cru comprendre que cet employé chinois ne s'ennuyait pas et qu'il y avait du pain sur la planche.
Si tout ça ne te semble pas assez accueillant, ou trop compliqué, zappe la Chine, et le Vietnam par la même occasion. Les règles du jeu sont similaires. Les contrôles semblent moins nombreux et plus permissifs, mails en etant dans une situation totalement illégale, si tu te fais choper, ca peut aussi devenir amusant.
Les choses pourraient se débloquer avec la création de la communauté ASEAN. Il est déjà prévu qu'un permis de conduire valable dans un pays de l'Asean te permettrait de conduire dans tous les pays membres. Il est même prévu que cette possibilité s'étendent en 2015 au Japon, la coree du sud et à la Chine (!!! ce qui m etonne beaucoup mais je l ai lu ici: http://pattayatoday.net/news/latest-edition/thailand-driving-licence-valid-throughout-asean/
ou encore la: http://www.asean.org/news/item/agreement-on-the-recognition-of-domestic-driving-licences-issued-by-asean-countries-kuala-lumpur-9-july-1985)
en attendant, c est tres simple de louer ou acheter une moto en thailande, et meme d y passer le permis:
voir la: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6111226
sur VF j ai lu que c etait aussi possible au cambodge et au laos, ainsi qu en malaisie
bonne balade
Essentiellement exact mais avec des nuances. J'ai un permis de conduire chinois mais jamais eu de visa de travail. Il suffit d'avoir un visa de plus de 90 jours et passer les tests. Mon permis a été émis à Beijing et j'ai conduis un peu partout en Chine.
Il est aussi possible de se procurer un permis de conduire temporaire. Le seul endroit que je connaisse pour ce permis est l'aéroport de Beijing. Arrivant de la Mongolie, ce n'est pas pratique.
En fait, à mon avis, le principale problème sera de se procurer une plaque d'immatriculation.
Ok merci à tous pour vos réponses.
J'ai quand même pas mal de retours contradictoires. Un italien dans la guest house ou je suis m'a dit qu'ont pouvait prendre un permis de moins de 90jours. Care joind ce que tu dis Louis.
Un autre allemand m'a dit aujourd'hui qu'il fallait sans doute revendre la moto à l'endroit où on l'a acheté.
Enfin, un ami qui habite en Chine pense qu'il faut carrément repasser le permis
Bref, je ne sais pas trop quoi en penser!
Eric Massiet du Biest, un francais, vient de relier Paris à Pékin (arrivé début août), avec un groupe de motards.
Maintenant il est sur le chemin du retour, il est actuellement en Mongolie.
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Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
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Do a loop.
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tout est dans le titre: me rendant prochainement a Krabi, et désirant louer un scooter pour quelques semaines, mais lisant des commentaires de risques d'arnaques en tout genre, je m'adresse a vous pour savoir ou et comment (lire ''la bonne facon'') de louer un scooter.
Merci de vos réponses et conseils.
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I’m currently planning a 9-day route starting from Marrakech with my husband. We land on the morning of June 13th—so soon! 😊
And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
We’ve rented two Royal Enfield 450s.
This is our first motorcycle trip in Morocco. I got my license two years ago with the dream of taking this kind of trip, and here we are! ✌️😍
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day.
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Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15)
Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34)
Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe)
Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h)
Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45)
Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45)
Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20)
Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22)
Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43)
End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
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Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
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I’m really keen on a motorcycle trip to Morocco, specifically the Middle Atlas. Does anyone have any info or tips on this idea? Planning to go in September or October...
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Christine
