Aguas Calientes et Ollantaytambo (Pérou)
by Poupsworld
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Coucou...
Ns partons au Pérou fin mai. Après qqs jours à Cusco, direction Machu Piccu..Que me conseillez-vs?
Aller directement en train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes ou faire un break d'1 nuit à Allantaytambo?
Ns comptons séjourner 1 nuit à Aguas Calientes afin d'accéder au Machu Piccu tôt le matin...
Merci d'avance pour vos précieux conseils...
Salut,
à mon avis, si tu veux dormir une nuit à Aguas Calientes pour être tôt le matin au Macchu Picchu (et tu as raison !), tu n'as pas besoin de faire une nuit à Ollantaytambo.
Par contre visiter le site de cette dernière, oui il faut le faire, car il est très beau.
A mon avis les horaires des billets de train vont peut être te donner des indications.
a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Merci Jean-Pascal :)
En arrivant, penses-tu que 3 nuits sur Cusco ne soient pas trop long?
Est-ce préférable de faire l'aller retour Cusco-Aguas Calientes ou de partir direct sur Puno au départ de Ollantaytambo??Merci merci
Bonjour,
En arrivant, penses-tu que 3 nuits sur Cusco ne soient pas trop long?
Oh non ! Déjà il faut s'acclimater à l'altitude, et ensuite il y a plein de belles (trés) belles choses à voir à Cusco.
Est-ce préférable de faire l'aller retour Cusco-Aguas Calientes ou de partir direct sur Puno au départ de Ollantaytambo??
Regarde la carte, Ollantaytambo est pratiquement un cul de sac, il vaut mieux revenir sur Cusco pour ensuite aller à Puno (plus facile au niveau transport). a+
En arrivant, penses-tu que 3 nuits sur Cusco ne soient pas trop long?
Oh non ! Déjà il faut s'acclimater à l'altitude, et ensuite il y a plein de belles (trés) belles choses à voir à Cusco.
Est-ce préférable de faire l'aller retour Cusco-Aguas Calientes ou de partir direct sur Puno au départ de Ollantaytambo??
Regarde la carte, Ollantaytambo est pratiquement un cul de sac, il vaut mieux revenir sur Cusco pour ensuite aller à Puno (plus facile au niveau transport). a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Ok pour Cusco ...
Puno, tu y séjournerais 1 ou 2 nuits ??
Pr t'y rendre tu privilégies le train ou un taxi privé?
Merci bcp pr ton aide...
Qd y es-tu allé au Pérou? Tu connais l'Asie également??
Qd y es-tu allé au Pérou? Tu connais l'Asie également??
Puno à mon avis ne vaut que pour le Lac Titicaca.
J'y avais séjourné deux nuits, mais entre les deux j'avais dormi sur une ile.
J'ai fait un carnet de voyage. Regarde le cela pourra, je pense, t'aider.
Cusco/Puno : Il y a aussi un bus qui fait la liaison dans la journée et qui en plus s'arrête sur des lieux à visiter.
a+
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3 jours à Cusco c'est un minimum, avec ses ruines environnantes.
Ensuite, consacrez un jour au trio Chinchero-Moray-Salineras, puis un second jour pour Pisac et Ollantaytambo.
Lors de ce second jour, prenez le dernier train vers Aguas Calientes, à 19h.
Pour le retour, il vous suffira de prendre un colectivo (mini-van partagé) direction Cusco (10-15 soles par personne).
En tout, 6 jours. Un minimum pour le trio Cusco-Vallée sacrée-Machu Picchu à mon sens
Pour faire Cusco-Puno, je vous recommande le bus de nuit de la compagnie Cruz del Sur qui part de Cusco en fin de soirée et qui arrive à Puno un peu moins de 6h plus tard. Ainsi, votre temps est optimisé. Prenez les couchettes «VIP» pour une bonne nuit de sommeil.
A Puno, utilisez le premier jour pour visiter un peu la ville (rien de particulier) et pour planifier une excursion de 2j/1n sur les îles du Titicaca (Amantani et Taquile… et les satanées Uros).
Tu trouveras plus de détails sur ces endroits sur mon blog (voir signature)
Pour le retour, il vous suffira de prendre un colectivo (mini-van partagé) direction Cusco (10-15 soles par personne).
En tout, 6 jours. Un minimum pour le trio Cusco-Vallée sacrée-Machu Picchu à mon sens
Pour faire Cusco-Puno, je vous recommande le bus de nuit de la compagnie Cruz del Sur qui part de Cusco en fin de soirée et qui arrive à Puno un peu moins de 6h plus tard. Ainsi, votre temps est optimisé. Prenez les couchettes «VIP» pour une bonne nuit de sommeil.
A Puno, utilisez le premier jour pour visiter un peu la ville (rien de particulier) et pour planifier une excursion de 2j/1n sur les îles du Titicaca (Amantani et Taquile… et les satanées Uros).
Tu trouveras plus de détails sur ces endroits sur mon blog (voir signature)
Mon blog perso consacré à mes voyages et au tourisme en général : http://www.globalement.com
Bonsoir,
Contrairement à une idée répandue, je ne crois pas opportun de passer la nuit à Aguas Calientes. Ceux qui le font, c'est en principe pour arriver au lever de soleil (hypothétique en cas de ciel couvert) et avant les foules, mais au mois de mai, ce n'est pas encore la haute saison touristique. Aguas Calientes est une ville encaissée, sans charme, hyper-touristique avec tous les mauvais côtés que cela comporte, notamment au niveau du rapport qualité prix calamiteux des hébergements.
Ce que nous avions fait et qui s'est avéré être une bonne solution: passer deux nuits à Ollantaytambo, une ville beaucoup plus intéressante, car elle a conservé un fort caractère inca, notamment avec sa forteresse, à visiter absolument, le matin de préférence. Nous avons pris un train vers 6 heures, et sommes rentrés à Ollanta vers 18h, ce qui nous a laissé beaucoup de temps sur le site du Machu Picchu.
En ce qui concerne Cuzco, nous y sommes restés trois jours en tout, et franchement il y avait une journée de trop. L'acclimatation, elle peut aussi très bien se faire en parcourant la Vallée Sacrée (Chichero, Pisac, etc.).
Quant au trajet Cuzco - Puno, tu peux prendre le bus touristique Inka Express. Certes, la formule est évidemment très touristique, mais c'est le seul moyen en dehors du taxi fort onéreux ou la location de voiture, de voir les sites intéressants sur le parcours, comme la magnifique église recouverte de fresques d'Andahuaylillas ou le temple inca de Raqchi.
Bon voyage! 🙂
Contrairement à une idée répandue, je ne crois pas opportun de passer la nuit à Aguas Calientes. Ceux qui le font, c'est en principe pour arriver au lever de soleil (hypothétique en cas de ciel couvert) et avant les foules, mais au mois de mai, ce n'est pas encore la haute saison touristique. Aguas Calientes est une ville encaissée, sans charme, hyper-touristique avec tous les mauvais côtés que cela comporte, notamment au niveau du rapport qualité prix calamiteux des hébergements.
Ce que nous avions fait et qui s'est avéré être une bonne solution: passer deux nuits à Ollantaytambo, une ville beaucoup plus intéressante, car elle a conservé un fort caractère inca, notamment avec sa forteresse, à visiter absolument, le matin de préférence. Nous avons pris un train vers 6 heures, et sommes rentrés à Ollanta vers 18h, ce qui nous a laissé beaucoup de temps sur le site du Machu Picchu.
En ce qui concerne Cuzco, nous y sommes restés trois jours en tout, et franchement il y avait une journée de trop. L'acclimatation, elle peut aussi très bien se faire en parcourant la Vallée Sacrée (Chichero, Pisac, etc.).
Quant au trajet Cuzco - Puno, tu peux prendre le bus touristique Inka Express. Certes, la formule est évidemment très touristique, mais c'est le seul moyen en dehors du taxi fort onéreux ou la location de voiture, de voir les sites intéressants sur le parcours, comme la magnifique église recouverte de fresques d'Andahuaylillas ou le temple inca de Raqchi.
Bon voyage! 🙂
Tout à fait, c'est un site magnifique et peu encombré. Sur la route il y a aussi un superbe village, Atuncilla où il faut s'arrêter. Mais ce n'est pas à Puno !
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On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Le Machu Picchu est «plein» tout au long de l'année.
L'avantage d'arriver tôt le matin : – Moins de touristes donc plus facile d'observer les ruines – Les photos sont plus belles – Ça donne suffisamment de temps pour faire la Montaña (je recommande) ou le Huayna Picchu – Au niveau de la météo, qui est très variable, plus vous arrivez tôt, plus vous avez de chance d'avoir du beau temps. Perso quand j'y suis allé, il s'est mis à pleuvoir dès 10h… j'étais content d'être arrivé à 6h du matin!
Après, c'est vrai Aguas Calientes et peu intéressante et plus chère que la moyenne. Ollantaytambo est superbe!
Trois jours à Cusco pour moi c'est le minimum. J'en ai passé 5 et je ne me suis pas ennuyé. Après c'est très personnel, si comme moi la culture et l'histoire inca vous fascine, il y a de quoi faire/voir!
Si vous avez le temps, le bus touristique est vraiment pas mal. J'avais fait le parcours avec Wonder Peru et je ne regrette pas les 55 dollars. Maintenant, si vous êtes serré au niveau du temps, le bus de nuit Cruz del Sur est la meilleure option.
L'avantage d'arriver tôt le matin : – Moins de touristes donc plus facile d'observer les ruines – Les photos sont plus belles – Ça donne suffisamment de temps pour faire la Montaña (je recommande) ou le Huayna Picchu – Au niveau de la météo, qui est très variable, plus vous arrivez tôt, plus vous avez de chance d'avoir du beau temps. Perso quand j'y suis allé, il s'est mis à pleuvoir dès 10h… j'étais content d'être arrivé à 6h du matin!
Après, c'est vrai Aguas Calientes et peu intéressante et plus chère que la moyenne. Ollantaytambo est superbe!
Trois jours à Cusco pour moi c'est le minimum. J'en ai passé 5 et je ne me suis pas ennuyé. Après c'est très personnel, si comme moi la culture et l'histoire inca vous fascine, il y a de quoi faire/voir!
Si vous avez le temps, le bus touristique est vraiment pas mal. J'avais fait le parcours avec Wonder Peru et je ne regrette pas les 55 dollars. Maintenant, si vous êtes serré au niveau du temps, le bus de nuit Cruz del Sur est la meilleure option.
Mon blog perso consacré à mes voyages et au tourisme en général : http://www.globalement.com
Bonjour,
Nous étions sur place dès 8 heures fin novembre, en venant d'Ollantaytamlbo, il n'y avait pas une foule démesurée et la lumière était très belle. En revanche le temps s'était détérioré en milieu de journée. Tout ceci est très aléatoire, à chacun ses expériences, mais la nôtre fut très satisfaisante. Et quand nous avons vu l'ambiance qui régnait à Aguas Calientes, une ville plutôt sale, nous n'avons pas regretté notre choix! Je souhaite un bon choix à Poupsworld 😉

Le site de la citadelle à 10 heures du matin.
Nous étions sur place dès 8 heures fin novembre, en venant d'Ollantaytamlbo, il n'y avait pas une foule démesurée et la lumière était très belle. En revanche le temps s'était détérioré en milieu de journée. Tout ceci est très aléatoire, à chacun ses expériences, mais la nôtre fut très satisfaisante. Et quand nous avons vu l'ambiance qui régnait à Aguas Calientes, une ville plutôt sale, nous n'avons pas regretté notre choix! Je souhaite un bon choix à Poupsworld 😉

Le site de la citadelle à 10 heures du matin.
Contrairement à une idée répandue, je ne crois pas opportun de passer la nuit à Aguas Calientes. Ceux qui le font, c'est en principe pour arriver au lever de soleil (hypothétique en cas de ciel couvert) et avant les foules
Il y a du vrai (surtout sur la ville d'Aguas Calientes) mais de ma petite expérience, quand nous sommes arrivés au plus tôt le matin nous avons eu le MP avec sa brume comme je me l'imaginai puis ensuite le soleil. Cela a été magique ! De plus il avait une sensation de calme car il y avait peu de monde. Sur le coup de 10-11h, quand les tours opérateurs sont arrivés et les gens des trains du matin ce n'était plus pareil. Quel que soit le choix, le MP reste magique. a+
Il y a du vrai (surtout sur la ville d'Aguas Calientes) mais de ma petite expérience, quand nous sommes arrivés au plus tôt le matin nous avons eu le MP avec sa brume comme je me l'imaginai puis ensuite le soleil. Cela a été magique ! De plus il avait une sensation de calme car il y avait peu de monde. Sur le coup de 10-11h, quand les tours opérateurs sont arrivés et les gens des trains du matin ce n'était plus pareil. Quel que soit le choix, le MP reste magique. a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Merci Side :)
Maintenant, j'hésite entre 2 choix pour le sens de mon parcours...
Partir de Cusco en avion pour rejoindre Arequipa ou aller en bus à Punco et faire la boucle en sens inverse...
Qu'en penses-tu?
Bonsoir,
Il me parait plus logique de faire Cuzco/Puno en bus et depuis Puno, de prendre un vol pour Arequipa si tu ne souhaites pas reprendre de bus.
Sauf qu'il n'y a pas de liaison directe Puno(Juliaca)-Arequipa 😛
Et s'il y en avait une, le gain de temps serait minimal car il faut se rendre à l'aéroport, puis de l'aéroport d'AQP au centre, attendre…
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Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)





