Début 2008 je revenais d'un fabuleux voyage en Birmanie.
Cinq ans après je pensais y retourner, mais horreur et damnation que vois-je sur le forum ? des gens qui galèrent pour trouver une chambre à un prix décent. Lorsque j'y étais nous payions la double 12$ ! Je lis que maintenant il faut mettre plus du double !
N'est ce le cas que dans les endroits phares ? Ou est ce partout comme ça ?
Est ce que cela deviendrait un pays asiatique "inabordable" ? Parce que vous imaginez le budget qu'il faut si l on voyage seul et que la chambre coûte 30$ ?
Lors de mon passage au Lac Inlé nous pouvions choisir le tour que nous voulions faire et nous étions les seules à descendre le lac plus bas que les tours qui vont de stand flottant en stand flottant pour que vous achetiez un truc. Est ce que maintenant tout le monde fait le tour que nous avions fait ?
Est ce qu il y a tout de pleins de nouvelles constructions ?
Bref est ce un tourisme de masse qui "s'abat" sur le Myanmar ?
Et dernière question : à quoi tout cela est-il dû ? La junte a t elle lâché du lest à ce point ? Tout ceux qui étaient contre d'aller visiter ce pays à cause de ladite junte, ont-ils tourné leur veste ?
Merci bcp pour les info car je suis un peu désarçonnée.
Vivement un retour de la junte aux vieilles habitudes pour préserver l'authenticité...
Sinon, la loi de l'offre (limitée) et de la demande (forte) s'applique aussi en Birmanie.
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
Début 2008 je revenais d'un fabuleux voyage en Birmanie.
Cinq ans après je pensais y retourner, mais horreur et damnation que vois-je sur le forum ? des gens qui galèrent pour trouver une chambre à un prix décent. Lorsque j'y étais nous payions la double 12$ ! Je lis que maintenant il faut mettre plus du double !
N'est ce le cas que dans les endroits phares ? Ou est ce partout comme ça ?
En cinq ans, la situation de ce pays a changé et un pseudo gouvernement démocratique dirige le pays, alors que l'on sait que les militaires sont toujours au pouvoir. En ce qui concerne les tarifs des hôtels des augmentations drastiques de l'ordre 50 à 100% ont eu lieu et d'autres sont prévues cette année.
Est ce que cela deviendrait un pays asiatique "inabordable" ? Parce que vous imaginez le budget qu'il faut si l on voyage seul et que la chambre coûte 30$ ?
Et oui, 30$ est un minimum si l'on désire une chambre single avec sdb attenante. A mon avis, il vaut mieux compter avec 35$ ...
Lors de mon passage au Lac Inlé nous pouvions choisir le tour que nous voulions faire et nous étions les seules à descendre le lac plus bas que les tours qui vont de stand flottant en stand flottant pour que vous achetiez un truc. Est ce que maintenant tout le monde fait le tour que nous avions fait ?
Est ce qu il y a tout de pleins de nouvelles constructions ?
Fini la belle vie, toute seule au milieu du lac. Il y a du monde partout, l'engouement des touristes pour ce pays a changé la donne.
Bref est ce un tourisme de masse qui "s'abat" sur le Myanmar ?
Je n'irai pas jusque là, vu les prix pratiqués. La haute saison qui s'étend de mi-novembre à fin février voit arriver une nouvelle sorte de voyageurs, des retraités au revenu confortable et qui désirent un beau voyage, confortable et dans de bonnes conditions. Des agence de voyage ayant pignon sur rue font leur beurre en offrant des prestations haut de gamme à ces touristes.
Et dernière question : à quoi tout cela est-il dû ? La junte a t elle lâché du lest à ce point ? Tout ceux qui étaient contre d'aller visiter ce pays à cause de ladite junte, ont-ils tourné leur veste ?
Cela est dû, en particulier, au fait que le nouveau gouvernement fait croire que la Birmanie est devenu une démocratique et cela attire non seulement les touristes, mais également les investisseurs de tout poil désirant s'implanter dans ce pays où presque tout manque.
La junte en tant que telle n'existe plus puisque des élections soi-disant démocratiques ont eu lieu en février 2011, que la Dame a été libérée et que le pays n'est plus dirigé par le général Than Shwe mais par Thein Sein, homme politique, mais surtout ancien général "défroqué".
Pour finir, si la question birmane t'intéresse, je te suggère le site de : www.irrawaddy.org, ainsi que www.altsean.org
Tu sera édifiée sur ce qui se passe réellement dans ce pays.
Oui, c'est devenu assez cher.
Avant, c'était " pas bien " d'aller en Birmanie. On soutenait la junte si on y allait.
Pas trop de touristes, pas trop d'hôtels ni de restos.
Les tarifs étaient un peu plus chers qu'ailleurs en Asie, mais ça restait défendable.
Aujourd'hui, c'est devenu le Mont Saint Michel.
A moins d'être atteint d'une maladie incurable à effet foudroyant et de vouloir absolument voir la Birmanie, le mieux est d'attendre pour y aller.
Les habitants ne vont pas changer, les pagodes ne vont pas changer, certains coins vont peut - être même s'améliorer.
Aucune raison de se précipiter.
A moins d'être retraité, fébrile, n'ayant pas vraiment confiance dans l'avenir des 6 prochaines années.
Il n'y a pas le feu au lac, les gogos veulent en avoir pour leur argent.
Pourquoi pas ?
Cette boulimie de l'autenthique coûte trop cher pour moi.
Si le plaisir c'est de dire "j'ai connu Yangon, il y a 1 ans, il y avait peu d'embouteillages et il n'y avait pas d'éclairage le soir, ". Bof ... Bof.... ( * ).
De toute façon, il y a DEJA des embouteillages à Rangoon (je suis rentrée hier...) mais je pense que si en effet les pagodes ne vont pas partir, la grâce et la gentillesse des habitants risque de se ternir quand ils auront été comme leurs voisins écoeurés par le comportement de certains touristes et un peu contaminés aussi par l'attrait du gain.
Certains enfants demandent des bonbons, un cadeau, de l'argent, comme les mamans qui attendent près des sites touristiques. C'est dommage mais inévitable.
Depuis deux ans les tarifs ont bien augmenté et il paraît que ça va continuer... Il semble que même pour les professionnels du tourisme, ça soit devenu Dallas. On peut attendre bien sûr que l'engouement retombe; ça peut paraître sage mais que trouvera-t-on alors?
Certains enfants demandent des bonbons, un cadeau, de l'argent, comme les mamans qui attendent près des sites touristiques. C'est dommage mais inévitable.
C'était déjà le cas en 2000 lors de mon premier voyage dans ce pays 😉 au moins quelque chose qui n'a pas changé, hein !
Pour info, il y a des embouteillages à Yangon depuis 6 ou 7 ans.Et parfois il y en avait quand il y avait des déplacements de militaires. Mais c'était très rare. Dans les rues on ne voyait aucun policier, et il devait y avoir un ou 2 feux rouges.
Votre question " On peut attendre bien sûr que l'engouement retombe; ça peut paraître sage, mais que trouvera -t - on alors ? "
Sivotre voyage est une course pour arriver avant le changement, je comprend que vous soyez prêt ( te ) à metttre le paquet pour ne pas voir grand chose.
A part dir " quand je suis allé à Yangon ..................mais il paraît que depuis ça a vachement changé........"
De toute façon ça a changé et ceux qui font que cela change encore plus vite, ce sont des gens comme vous. Prêts à payer cher pour avoir la sensation " d'un peu d'authenticité ".
Allez - y quand vous voulez.
Je préfère attendre. Je pense même que ça sera plus sympa dans quelques années.
Reportage qui vient de se terminer et que j'espère aura su apporter des réponses et des éclairages aux voyageurs sur ce qui se passe en Birmanie depuis les élections de 2011. Excellent !
Reportage qui vient de se terminer et que j'espère aura su apporter des réponses et des éclairages aux voyageurs sur ce qui se passe en Birmanie depuis les élections de 2011. Excellent !
Figurez - vous qu'il y a une douzaine d'années, il n'y avait aucun policier en uniforme dans les rues de Yangon et il y avait très peu de militaires / policiers à l'aéroport de Yangon.
Faîtes - moi la grâce d'essayer d'avoir un peu de discernement.
Quand j'écris qu'il n'y avait pas de policiers dans les rues, je pense " policier en uniforme ".
A Yangon et dans les grandes villes, il y a une douzaine d'années, il n'y avait pas de flics en uniforme et quasiment pas de militaires. Seulement un feu rouge sur la route de l'aéroport.
Puis, au fur et à mesure de l'orientation " démocratique " du pays, les premiers flics en uniforme sont apparus.
Les flics en uniforme, la police des frontières en uniforme à l'aéroport, les douaniers en uniforme, c'est, bizaremment une des manifestations visible de l'instauration d'un régime à tendance démocratique.
Cette vidéo est inaccessible sur votre territoire bla bla bla...pour des droits de diffusion concédés à France Télévisions...
ça sert à quoi que je paye BILLAG si je ne peux même pas regarder les programmes que je veux sur le net?!
En suisse on est très fort pour lancer des initiatives à la con style "préservons le territoire" alors que la plupart des gens n'est même pas propriétaire et on est même pas capable de lancer une initiative populaire "Arrêtons le racket de BILLAG"!
ouais c'est ça...
J'écoute pas jean-charles simon...Je regarde pas Box office et les séries à la con...
c'est exactement 470,40 (462 balles c'est pour ceux qui ont assez de pognon pour payer en une seule fois la redevance...) Et dire qu'en France et en Italie ils se plaignent de la redevance alors qu'ils la divisent par 4 ou 5 par rapport à la notre! 🤪
A cela t'ajoutes la taxe du téléréseau...30 balles par mois...ça te fais 360.-...en gros en Suisse, plus précisément je paye 830 francs suisses pour avoir les chaines basiques radio/télé! 🤪
Ah ah ah !!!!!!! Je ris toute seule devant mon écran....
Qui eu cru qu'une réflexion sur la Birmanie puisse tout d'un coup devenir un coup de gueule contre Billag !
Trop, trop drôle !
Enfin, c'est vrai que ça fort ennuyeux de payer tout ça pour ne même pas pouvoir voir le programme que l on veut.
Mais là n'était pas la question.
Bonne journée à tout le monde
Oui, mais en fin de compte je n'ai pas vu mon reportage sur la Birmanie de France 5 ! 😠😠😠
Je ne sais pas comment elle fait Adonya d'être en Suisse et de pouvoir visionner cette vidéo!! Il y a un truc qui ne joue pas!!! 😠😠
Oui, mais en fin de compte je n'ai pas vu mon reportage sur la Birmanie de France 5 !
Je ne sais pas comment elle fait Adonya d'être en Suisse et de pouvoir visionner cette vidéo!! Il y a un truc qui ne joue pas!!!
Oups ! Sorry, j'ai regardé ce documentaire sur France-5 et pas sur la vidéo 😊
Malheureusement, je ne savais pas que les replays de la TV français ne pouvaient être visionnées depuis la Suisse. J'espère que tu me pardonneras 😉
Vivement un retour de la junte aux vieilles habitudes pour préserver l'authenticité...
Si c'est une plaisanterie, elle est de fort mauvais goût !😕 même si l'actuel gouvernement est constitué de certains de ses ex-membres 😠
C'est pas une plaisanterie, c'est de l'ironie. L'ironie a également un pouvoir de dénonciation afin de souligner l'absurde. Il faut savoir ligne entre les lignes 😉
Jusqu'ici, les militaires distribuaient (=se faisaisent payer) les rares concessions de logement et autres services touristiques;Maintenant, la demande a explosé mais l'offre n'a pas eu le temps de s'adapter;Dans 2 à 3 ans, la libéralisation du marché et donc la concurrence finiront par arranger les choses.
La Terre ne nous appartient pas: Nous l'empruntons à nos enfants
De toute façon, la "junte" est toujours présente et elle y est bien ... pas de changement notoire. Et on s'en aperçoit dès que l'on se détache un peu des zones touristiques avec leurs "indics" policiers qui vous "sautent" carrément dessus quand vous arrivez. Ensuite, on a droit a des controles de passeports repétitifs allant même à la confiscation du passeport jusqu'au moment ou vous repartez ... et sans compter le service immigration qui vient ensuite en parallèle.
Dans 2 à 3 ans, la libéralisation du marché et donc la concurrence finiront par arranger les choses.
Bonjour,
Je ne crois pas que ça va changer de si tôt...
Le tourisme est au mains de la junte, ce qui veut dire qu'actuellement les hôteliers "indépendants" subissent des pressions et parfois du "racket" légal, comme vous l'évoquez dans votre point 1.
Pour faire simple, ça ne sera pas demain qu'on verra une "réelle" dérèglementation des prix de la part des "indépendants" bien que la demande est fortement supérieure à l'offre...Ils doivent appliquer les prix que la "junte" les imposent d'appliquer, car sinon la junte ne s'en mettrai plus plein les poches...La junte trouvera toujours l'astuce d'imposer ou de taxer l'indépendant tandis que ceux de la junte en seront exemptés.
Pas du tout de problème quand on est dans des zones touristiques inlé bagan mandalay mais dès que vous allez dans des zones autorisées disons tolérées mais non touristiques là vous sentez la pression dont je vous parle
Vous faîtes certainement partie de ces personnes " hyper sensibles " qui sont capables de détecter des policiers fictifs et des agents de renseignements omniprésents partout.🙂
Pourriez vous me dire dans quelles " zones " non touristiques vous avez ressenti cette " pression "...
😎
Impatient de vous lire.😎
je n'ai pas inventé les controles des passeports intempestifs et la confiscation du passeport jusqu'au moment ou l'on quitte la zone par les policiers toujours en civil et aussi le service immigration toujours aussi en civil.
Leur carte mentionant leur véritable identité est toujours dans leur poche quand vous la demandez.
Zone arakan entre Ngapali et Gwa par exemple
Zone du delta entre autre...en dessous Pathein
Disons que c'est connu que la région d'Arakan est une région sensible et interdite aux "touristes"
Certes ça un petit peu changé depuis 2011...mais dans les faits...En Birmanie il existe encore des Zones "interdites aux touristes"
Donc c'est normal que vous y avez subi des contrôles qui ne sont pas dignes d'un pays où la libre circulation est la règle...Normalement vous ne deviez pas vous y trouver...
Oui, vous avez raison, je n'ai jamais eu l'impression d'être suivie et ennuyée par la police durant ces dix dernières années, mais il faut admettre que, depuis les incidents entre boudhistes et musulmans près de Sittwé et également à Pégu, les contrôles se font plus nombreux, et donc la route menant de Yangoon à Mawlemine est contrôlée, alors qu'en 2012 il n'y avait aucun problème pour se déplacer dans cette région.
...mais dans les faits...En Birmanie il existe encore des Zones "interdites aux touristes"
oui, bof, juste plus de la moitié du pays. Bref, c'est pas un scoop...🤪
pourquoi des guillemets ?
Parce-que justement des personnes comme Gerdan y sont allé nonobstant de l'interdiction aux touristes...
C'était pour mettre en exergue le côté officiel et officieux de la pratique...
Et pour ceux que cela intéresse, les dernières informations de Ananda :
Zones autorisées ou fermées aux touristes (vérifié en mars 2013)
Importante mise à jour des zones autorisées en mars 2013.
Sittwe et Mrauk U sont de nouveau ouverts.
Attention, certaines zones sont ouvertes pour la 1er fois, il conviendra de valider en pratique, si l'accès est réellement possible ou pas.
Il y a souvent au Myanmar un écart entre ce qui est théoriquement possible et la pratique.
Mogkok :
fermé - pas possible pour les touristes.
Etat Kaya :
Loikaw est ouvert sans autorisation (le reste de l'état est fermé). Les villages au sud sont accessibles sous réserve d'autorisation.
Nord état Karen
Than Taung Gyi : Uniquement la ville de Than Taung Gyi, ouvert sous réserve de guide et autorisation, pas de nuitée possible. Le reste du nord de l'état est fermé.
Zone frontalière Thailande
- Etat Karen : fermé (aucun passe droit possible pour cette région)
Moulmein à Dawei :
- passage routier, bus, train de Moulmein à Dawei ouvert.
De l'est du lac Inle jusqu'à la frontière Thaï
: fermée (Tachileck, Kentung sont accessibles en avion).
- Trajet Tachileck -Kentung en voiture :
- avec une voiture de location Thai vous pouvez rejoindre kentung par la route (uniquement avant 16H..)
- si l'avion intérieur Heho Kentung s'arrête à Tachileck (terminus pour x raison...), il est possible de faire le trajet Tachilek Kentung en voiture, mais uniquement avant 16h, autrement il faut dormir à Tachileck.
Bhamo :
en théorie ouvert, mais pas d'accès sur Myitchina, situation très tendue.
Sittwe Mrauk U Vesali Mahamuni :
de nouveau ouvert
Nagaland :
En général fermé, sous réserve d'autorisation peut éventuellement etre ouvert.
Route Bagan Mrauk-U
Ouverte sous réserve d'autorisation préalable.
Pyay - Ngapali par la route :
ouvert.
Mais route épouvantable
Nord de l'état Chin :
- Route Bagan Hakka Falam - Ditthim - frontière Indienne - Kalay et retour sur Mandalay, ouverte sous réserve d'une autorisation spéciale et de la présence d'un guide.
Mindat (sud état Chin):
- ouvert pour Mindat Kampellet (qui implique une taxe locale journalière par personne de 15 USD)
Au delà de Mindat (Matupi) :
ouvert, avec une demande d'autorisation spéciale, la route Matupi - Hakka est également possible avec autorisation spéciale.
Mongla à la frontière Chinoise (depuis Kentung) est fermée
- Putao : accès sous autorisation spéciale.
- Nay Pyi Taw est toujours (théoriquement) fermé pour les touristes.
- Lewe et Tatkon (Mandalay region) sont fermés aux touristes
- Région autour de Mytchina : Situation très dangereuse, à fortement déconseiller
- Entre Lashio et Muse (frontière Chinoise) : sous réserve d'autorisation préalable - peu probable en ce moment.
- Mytchina par avion : ouvert pas d'autorisation a demander, possible en train également, cependant la situation est dangereuse sur Myitchina
- Homalin (nord Sagaille) : ouvert sous réserve d'autorisation et guide.
- Hispaw : village ouvert, zone de trek autour soumise en théorie à autorisation.
Certaines zones sont plus ou moins ouvertes, certains routes également.
Mars 2013
Et pourtant, durant tous mes voyages dans ce pays, je n'ai jamais ressenti cette pression malgré des voyages il y a plus de 15 ans. Par contre, à cette époque, c'était plutôt un sentiment de suspicion qui planait et il était très difficile de "parler" avec les gens.😕
Je suis assez étonné par la manière dont vous traitez ceux qui émettent un avis différent du votre.😐
J'ai un point de vue différent du votre, donc, automatiquement je ne suis "jamais sorti du triangle de l'autoroute touristique". 🙁
Un peu crétin comme raisonnement, mais si ça vous satisfait, pourquoi pas...🤪
Je vous invite à revoir quelques cours de géométrie.😉
Yangon, Pathein, Lekkohon, Set se, Hpa An, Mandalay, Inle, Kakku, Mrauk U, Ngapali Chaung Tha, Ngwe Saung, Bagan, Pakoku, Moulmein forment certainement pas une figure géométrique.
Mais certainement pas un triangle.
C'est une partie des destinations dans lesquelles nous sommes allés.😎
J'espère que dans votre réponse vous écrirez moins de bêtises.😕 Ce n'est peut - être pas gagné...😎
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Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
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I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon