Bourgogne: route des Grands Crus entre Dijon et Beaune (France)
by Isaber
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, j'aimerais beaucoup faire la route des grands crus entre Dijon et Beaune. Je crois qu'on l'appelle aussi la cote d"or ou la cote de Beaune? Je crois aussi qu'elle porte le no. 74 et qu'elle totalise 82 km??? Est ce exact? Ma question principale est: Existe-il un bus qui fait cette route? ou un train? Je n'ai pas vraiment les moyens ni le désir de louer une voiture. Merci
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Juste une petite précision .....
La Côte d'Or est un département français ou se trouve en grande partie les différents crus de Bourgogne ...... et la Côte de Beaune est un des vignobles qui regroupe certains de ces plus grands crus, comme Volnay, Pommard, Beaune, ( qui sont d'ailleurs autant de villages .... ) etc ..... comme peut l'être la Côte de Nuits, autre grand vignoble ....
Pour le reste, je n'ai pas de réponse mais faire la route des vins sans voiture me semble difficile, tout du moins au début, car au bout de la dizième cave celà commence à être compliqué ...... et je sais de quoi je parle ....... 😏
La Côte d'Or est un département français ou se trouve en grande partie les différents crus de Bourgogne ...... et la Côte de Beaune est un des vignobles qui regroupe certains de ces plus grands crus, comme Volnay, Pommard, Beaune, ( qui sont d'ailleurs autant de villages .... ) etc ..... comme peut l'être la Côte de Nuits, autre grand vignoble ....
Pour le reste, je n'ai pas de réponse mais faire la route des vins sans voiture me semble difficile, tout du moins au début, car au bout de la dizième cave celà commence à être compliqué ...... et je sais de quoi je parle ....... 😏
Merci. J'ai une question qui peut te paraitre un peu stupide, mais... un vignoble englobe plusieurs villages et plusieurs producteurs? Donc, je pourrais visiter un seul vignoble et voir plusieurs vignerons et surtout plusieurs dégustations!!! Lequel des vignoble me conseilles-tu, la côte de nuits ou la côte de Beaune?
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Non, ce n'est pas stupide car le vignoble français est assez complexe et crois moi, beaucoup de mes compatriotes n'y comprennent pas grand chose non plus ...... donc oui, un vignoble englobe plusieurs villages et plusieurs producteurs, et je peux encore te compliquer la tâche en te disant que par exemple la Côte de Nuits est divisé en plusieurs " crus " et " clos " divers ou appellations toutes simples comme " Côtes de nuits " tout simplement, mais avec de multiples producteurs différents ..... 🤪 mais l'inverse peut également être vrai ...... gloups, tu me suis ..... ? 😉
L'important dans un grand vignoble, c'est d'abord le terroir ..... donc les Côtes de Nuits et les Côtes de Beaune sont considérées comme de grands terroirs, mais aprés il faut également compter avec la main du vinificateur qui élaborera le nectar désiré ...... et on peut dire que maintenant l'année, ou millésime, est moindre par rapport à la technique de vinification ......
Te conseiller un vignoble plutôt qu'un autre ..... tout celà est affaire de goût et de vieillissement, alors fait toi plaisir en t'arrêtant dans un de ces fameux villages comme Nuits St Georges, Clos Vougeot, Volnay, Romanée, etc ..... et là tu auras déjà l'occasion de goûter à de grands vins, même si ce seront des vins jeunes ...... et puis si tu peux te ballader dans un vignoble et rencontrer les gens qui élaborent ces vins et discuter un peu avec eux avant de déguster, ce serait super ...... 🙂
Bon voyage et n'oublie pas qu'il faut boire avec modération ...... enfin c'est ce qu'on dit ..... 😏😉
L'important dans un grand vignoble, c'est d'abord le terroir ..... donc les Côtes de Nuits et les Côtes de Beaune sont considérées comme de grands terroirs, mais aprés il faut également compter avec la main du vinificateur qui élaborera le nectar désiré ...... et on peut dire que maintenant l'année, ou millésime, est moindre par rapport à la technique de vinification ......
Te conseiller un vignoble plutôt qu'un autre ..... tout celà est affaire de goût et de vieillissement, alors fait toi plaisir en t'arrêtant dans un de ces fameux villages comme Nuits St Georges, Clos Vougeot, Volnay, Romanée, etc ..... et là tu auras déjà l'occasion de goûter à de grands vins, même si ce seront des vins jeunes ...... et puis si tu peux te ballader dans un vignoble et rencontrer les gens qui élaborent ces vins et discuter un peu avec eux avant de déguster, ce serait super ...... 🙂
Bon voyage et n'oublie pas qu'il faut boire avec modération ...... enfin c'est ce qu'on dit ..... 😏😉
Essaye de faire la route en stop, les bourguignons sont hyper-sympa, meme sans visiter tous les vignobles, la vue de la route est trés agreable, le mieux est de le faire fin septembre, pendant les vendanges.
A Beaune, visite les caves Patriarche, il y a quelques années, j'ai payé 10FRF(1, 50€) pour la visite et dégustation sans limite des plus grands crus..Super ...
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Xavier.
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Merci beaucoup pour vos bons tuyaux!!! Je vais tenter de m'y retrouver avant mon départ, le 9 mai. Faire la route en stop... bonne idée, je n'y avais même pas penser! Pour ce qui est des caves du patriarche, je les ferai pour sûr, boire sans limite de ce nectar divin... j'adore!!! Sinon, quelqu'un sait-il combien il en coute pour visiter un vignoble avec dégustation? Je me doute que les prix peuvent varier d'un à L'autre, mais un approximatif?
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bonjour isaber,
j'ai lu les quelques courriers précédents et je voudrais y mettre mon petit grain de sel.
Pour ce qui est des caves et propriétés, tu n'auras pas de soucis, on ne fait pas 500m sans en voir une (j'exagère à peine!). Les villages en sont littéralement truffés et c'est super! Pour les choix, pour t'y retrouver un peu, essaye de partir d'un guide sans t'y tenir absolument. Le vin c'est quand même une question de gout personnel. Par contre, tu peux repérer des gens qui travaillent bien, y compris sur de mauvaises années.
Sur les dégustations, tu verras les vignerons bourguignons sont vraiment sympas et pas radins. Tu dégustes à volonté, en tout cas hors saison touristique d'été, et gratuitement : fais gaffe! on sort vite un peu étourdi🤪.
Personnellement, une dégustation payante je pense que c'est à fuir.
Sinon en dehors du vin, n'oublie pas de faire un tour à Beaune, superbe petite ville (pleines de caves!!! aussi.)
bon séjour.
laurent.
Tu peux déguster dans la plupart des vignobles gratuitement, aprés il y a une dégustation gratuite à but commerciale, au cave patriarche, tu peux déguster les plus grands crus (avec modération), il y a vente sur place, mais les vendeurs n'interviennent qu'à ta demande, on ne se sent pas obligé d'acheter...
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salut Isaber, tu as eu de bons conseils ici. Je peux juste rajouter puisque tu le demandais qu'il existe un bus local (le 44) qui part de Dijon et passe par la route des grands crus. (en passant il n'y a que 45km entre Dijon et Beaune). tu peux voir les horaires ici avec d'autres bus.
http://www.cotedor.fr/jahia/webdav/site/cg_21/shared/documents/horaires%20lignes%20transco/horaires_Transco.pdf
Il y a aussi un petit train qui part de Chambolle Musigny et qui fait un circuit dans les vignes et une dégustation possible au retour. http://chambolle-musigny.chez-alice.fr/train.html (il y a aussi plein de photos)
En plus de Beaune, n'oublie pas de faire un tour dans le centre de ma belle ville de Dijon si tu as le temps. Si tu aimes l'architecture et l'histoire tu vas être servie et pas besoin de voiture! Bienvenue en Côte d'Or! :-)
Il y a aussi un petit train qui part de Chambolle Musigny et qui fait un circuit dans les vignes et une dégustation possible au retour. http://chambolle-musigny.chez-alice.fr/train.html (il y a aussi plein de photos)
En plus de Beaune, n'oublie pas de faire un tour dans le centre de ma belle ville de Dijon si tu as le temps. Si tu aimes l'architecture et l'histoire tu vas être servie et pas besoin de voiture! Bienvenue en Côte d'Or! :-)
corinne.
Wow génial, merci beaucoup, bon coup de main!!! Le bus passe par nuits st-georges que je voulais justement voir!!! Et bien sûr que je passerai plusieurs heures dans ta ville!!! Elle semble tout à fait magnifique. Combien de temps crois tu que je devrais y consacrer? Ce que nous aimons faire c'est: flâner dans des quartiers historiques et pittoresques, en ragardant la belle architecture autour de nous. Une promenade dans les parcs ou au bord de l'eau en prenant une petite bière ou du vin. Les rues pìétonnes et animées... Nous aimerions aussi aller dans des caves à vins... (si tu peux m'en suggérer quelques unes"!) Donc 1/2 journée? Une journée? Est il aiser de ce déplacer d'une pace à l'autre à pied? ou devrons nous prendre le transport en commun.
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Ravie de t'aider! :-)
Le mieux à faire si tu veux voir l'essentiel c'est d'aller à l'un des offices du tourisme (un pas loin de la gare en allant sur la place Darcy) et l'autre que j'adore car il est dans un endroit très particulier rue des Forges... tu demandes "le parcours de la chouette" qui coute 2euros. c'est une petit livre qui, à l'aide de petits triangles dorés avec l'effigie de la chouette que tu trouves par terre et qui forment un parcours fléché te montrent tous les principaux monuments de Dijon.
Quand tu trouves une grosse plaque dorée avec la chouette tu lis dans le livret ce que tu vois juste en face, église, hotel particulier.... tout le monde adore! ils le font dans plein de langues.
Si tu veux tout voir dans le détail, il y a de quoi faire et une journée ne suffira pas mais je pense que tu peux faire ce parcours en 1/2 journée. Si tu aimes les parcs, ne rate pas le jardin Darcy et son ours blanc (statue de Pompon), le parc de la Colombière, le jardin botanique près de la gare et j'en oublie surement. il y a aussi le lac Kir et non, son nom ne vient pas de la boisson cassis/vin blanc aligoté mais du nom du maire de Dijon dans les années soixante (le chanoine Félix Kir) qui a donné son nom à cet apéritif et aussi au lac qu'il a fait construire Le lac fait 4 km de tour et est très agréable en été nous avons nous aussi comme Paris, Dijon-plage ;-) Depuis le lac tu peux aussi suivre "la coulée verte" qui longe l'Ouche jusqu'au centre de Dijon.
Et n'oublie d'aller poser ta main (gauche) sur la chouette sculptée qui est située sur un des murs de notre Dame (à gauche quand tu es face à l'église) dans la rue de la chouette justement et fais un voeu!
Si tu veux te reposer en continuant à voir Dijon, prends la navette "diviaciti" qui est gratuite et qui fait le tour de du centre. Elle n'est pas du tout destinée aux touristes que très peu osent prendre alors c'est l'idéal quand on a mal aux pieds ou qu'on veut gagner du temps. Je la prends très souvent et je n'oublie pas de dire bonjour quand je monte dedans car elle est petite et que les gens ont pris l'habitude.
Pour les caves à vins franchement je ne sais pas. Il y a quelquechose au 6 rue de la Chouette d'après cityvox dijon mais je n'en sais pas plus.
bonne chance :-)
coco
corinne.
J'espère que tu dégustes autant les co^tes de Provence mais tu as raison le kir Dijonnais a un autre goût que le pastis, et les vins de Bourgogne sont super bons, donc nous irons à la dégustation, et en profiterons pour leur donner les bonnes adresses pour qu'ils viennent chez nous Eh oui! il faut bien que tput le monde travaille........😉😉😉😏😎
Bonjour,
Je passe sur Beaune en debut aout avec ma copine et j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un a des conseils et ou des contacts pour cette jolie ville. Nous y serons que 2 petites journees mais nous voulons vraiment visiter quelques caves/ vignobles. Notre probleme est que nous sommes comme plusieurs voyageurs dependants du SNCF... donc il faudrait avoir quelque chose pas trop loin du centre-ville de Beaune. Nous cherchons donc pour de bonnes adresses, si possible pas des endroits HYPER touristiques.. genre Patriarche, et nous cherchons aussi une bonne adresse ou dormir pour un budget moyen.. b&b, chambres d'hote... nous attendons vos precieux conseils!!!
Merci Mat
Merci Mat
Mathieu
Bonjour, j'aimerais beaucoup faire la route des grands crus entre Dijon et Beaune. Je crois qu'on l'appelle aussi la cote d"or ou la cote de Beaune? Je crois aussi qu'elle porte le no. 74 et qu'elle totalise 82 km??? Est ce exact? Ma question principale est: Existe-il un bus qui fait cette route? ou un train? Je n'ai pas vraiment les moyens ni le désir de louer une voiture. Merci
La RN74 est une route nationale (comme son nom l'indique 😉 ) qui permet effectivement de faire le trajet entre Dijon et Beaune. Mais si tu veux profiter du coin, mieux vaut suivre la "Route des Grands Crus" qui est parallèle, à 1 km l'Ouest et passe au milieu des vignes. Je connais bien, mes parents habitent un village entre ces 2 route. 🙂 Il y a des bus régionaux (ça s'appelait Transco avant, mais je ne me souviens plus du nouveau nom, désolé) qui suivent ces 2 routes, avec des fréquences de ~1 par heure. Mais le mieux est encore je pense de louer un vélo à partir de Marsannay-la-Côte (1er village au Sud de Dijon où commencent les vignobles), en direction de Beaune. Je dis bien "en direction" parce que je ne sais pas si tu arriveras au bout. 🤪
La RN74 est une route nationale (comme son nom l'indique 😉 ) qui permet effectivement de faire le trajet entre Dijon et Beaune. Mais si tu veux profiter du coin, mieux vaut suivre la "Route des Grands Crus" qui est parallèle, à 1 km l'Ouest et passe au milieu des vignes. Je connais bien, mes parents habitent un village entre ces 2 route. 🙂 Il y a des bus régionaux (ça s'appelait Transco avant, mais je ne me souviens plus du nouveau nom, désolé) qui suivent ces 2 routes, avec des fréquences de ~1 par heure. Mais le mieux est encore je pense de louer un vélo à partir de Marsannay-la-Côte (1er village au Sud de Dijon où commencent les vignobles), en direction de Beaune. Je dis bien "en direction" parce que je ne sais pas si tu arriveras au bout. 🤪
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est ce qu un bus fait la route des grands crus... je nai pas vraiment envi de me taper 50 km de velo, nous ne sommes pas tres en forme..... Je ne veux pas non plus louer de voiture... en tout cas pas sil est possible de faire la route en bus... Connais tu le no du bus... plus haut on m a nonner le '' mais il passe vraiment pas souvent....
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Bon, en fait les bus de Côte d'Or s'appellent toujours TRANSCO (j'avais confondu avec les bus dijonnais STRD qui s'appellent maintenant Divia).
Il y a un PDF avec les arrêts et les horaires ici :
http://www.cotedor.fr/jahia/Jahia/accueil/pid/113/cache/bypass?article=3967
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salut Peanut, je ne sais pas si ton lien va beaucoup aider isaber vu que ça donne le même résultat que le mien 😉 Tes parents sont d'où?
Désolée isaber, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des bus plus fréquents que le "44".😕
Désolée isaber, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des bus plus fréquents que le "44".😕
corinne.
désolée Massiue mais je ne connais pas beaucoup Beaune, il faudra vraiment que j'y aille faire un tour bientôt.
Je sais que l'hotel "le Grillon" a une bonne cote.
Si tu lis l'anglais il y a quelques idées sur ce post d'un forum américain: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=2&tid=34796032
Si tu as des questions sur Dijon n'hésite pas! 🙂
Si tu lis l'anglais il y a quelques idées sur ce post d'un forum américain: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=2&tid=34796032
Si tu as des questions sur Dijon n'hésite pas! 🙂
corinne.
salut Peanut, je ne sais pas si ton lien va beaucoup aider isaber vu que ça donne le même résultat que le mien 😉 Tes parents sont d'où?
Désolée isaber, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des bus plus fréquents que le "44".😕
Désolé, j'ai pas lu en détail toutes les réponses. 😊 Mes parents (et moi avant 😉) habitent à Couchey. Et avant on habitait à Marsannay-la-Côte.
Désolée isaber, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des bus plus fréquents que le "44".😕
Désolé, j'ai pas lu en détail toutes les réponses. 😊 Mes parents (et moi avant 😉) habitent à Couchey. Et avant on habitait à Marsannay-la-Côte.
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Au fait, j'y pense, il y a aussi un TER (train régional) qui fait Dijon-Nuits Saint Georges.
(je ne connais pas les autres gares où il s'arrête)
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In France, I’ve always lived in Essonne (91), around Bures-sur-Yvette / Les Ulis / Gif / Orsay, etc. I *hate* it—way too quiet, empty streets, and zero activities that suit me. There’s not a single proper bar in any of the surrounding towns, just PMU tobacco shops, and nightlife is nonexistent.
I went to Hossegor once with friends—great vibe, nightlife, bars, beach, etc. But I’m guessing it’s *super* expensive to buy a place there, close to the action (and I’m not even sure if it’s a nice place to live overall).
When I came back to France, I spent 3 months in Paris because I thought it would obviously be the closest to what I was looking for. I still have horrible memories of it—it haunted me so much that I had to escape the capital in a hurry... And I was (I think?) in one of the best neighborhoods for my tastes: Belleville.
So here I am, going in circles because I don’t know enough about French cities. All my friends love quiet, small provincial towns or even living alone in the mountains.
A couple told me about Montreuil, but they were there a long time ago, so I don’t know what it’s like now. They said there was activity, that the city was pretty big, and that there was a good nightlife scene (bars, nightclubs, all kinds of outings), plus the metro (which would make it easy to get to Paris or for people to come to Montreuil from Paris).
So, for now, Montreuil is my only option, but I’m scared and would love other opinions (on Montreuil and other possibilities).
Sorry for the novel, but this is *really* important to me—my future depends on it, in a way ^^'
Thanks so much for reading and for any help you can give!
Hello,
At the beginning of June, we’ll be spending a few days in Sardinia. We’ve decided to return via a detour through Corsica and want to make the crossing from Santa Teresa di Gallura to Bonifacio (2 people and 1 car). There are currently two companies, Moby Lines and Ichnusa Lines, that operate this route. Unfortunately, we don’t know either of them at all. The prices and crossing times are pretty much the same, and we’d like to choose the most reliable one (punctuality/risk of cancellation for a booked crossing) and, if possible, the more comfortable of the two. Could you share your thoughts on either company to help us decide? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Have a great day.
Hi everyone,
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
Hi,
We’re heading to Corsica at the end of July, and after a 4-night stay in Zonza, I’d like to head toward Cargèse or Porto to visit the Calanques de Piana. What’s the actual travel time? Maps says 2h40/3h, but I’m wondering if that’s really accurate.
How long does it take to get back to Ajaccio Airport afterward?
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I saw that the first tram from Pont du Garigliano leaves at 5:15 AM, and by taking the RER B at Cité Universitaire afterward, I’d arrive at Roissy at 6:30 AM—2 hours before my international flight.
Is this doable, or not? If anyone’s done this before, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re about to finalize a booking for late July near the Pink Granite Coast. We’re wondering about the traffic jams that could make our trip miserable, given how famous the place is—we’re excited to see it too. Could it get pretty bad?
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
In June 2020, my wife and I will be visiting Brittany and Normandy. We’d especially love to explore villages that aren’t part of the usual tourist routes. We enjoy traveling off the beaten path.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
Hello everyone,
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Hi there,
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
Hi everyone,
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
Hi,
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
Hi everyone,
We’ve wanted to visit Alsace for a long time to see the famous and well-known "Christmas markets."
Apart from the one in Strasbourg, could you give us some tips on other markets (Sélestat, Colmar, Mulhouse)?
Also, any recommendations for hotels, restaurants, or things to see, etc.?
I know my question is a bit "basic," but we really need some expert advice.
Thanks in advance to all.
Hi there,
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
How do I get to ibis budget coeur orly from the Metro Line 14 Orly station on foot
We’ll be back from a river cruise with a stop in Strasbourg for just the afternoon and evening. We’d like to spend the afternoon in either Colmar or Kaysersberg and then return to Strasbourg for dinner and a stroll afterward. I’d love your advice on which spot—Colmar or Kaysersberg—you’d recommend. I’ve noticed there’s a bus line 145 that runs from Colmar to Kaysersberg, taking about 40 minutes and costing around 5 €.
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Hi there,
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
Hi
Does anyone know a reliable and affordable shuttle service from Roissy airport to Lille train station?
I know there are TGVs, but we’d like to avoid a long wait at Roissy station.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
BD
Hi there,
We’re heading to Forcalquier as a couple and would love to explore the Valensole area, including the Verdon Gorge, etc. We’ll be there for 5 days, so I’d like to put together a little rundown of things to see, plus the best tips—what to avoid, what to recommend, restaurants, and so on.
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone, after a stay in the South and one in the North, I’m planning a mini road trip in Corsica (Bastia-Bastia) in June to explore places I haven’t seen yet. Since we’re heading to the mountains later this year, we’ve deliberately skipped the Corsican mountains. Could you share your thoughts and, most importantly, suggest things to see? We love nature, reasonable hikes, peaceful spots, and small villages. No cities. No boat excursions (yes, that includes Piana and Scandola). We already know the area between Bastia and Calvi.
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure




