BOYVAN
Passage frontière Etats-Unis/Canada en voiture
by Boyvan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
nous projetons un voyage avec nos trois enfants 12, 2 ans et 9 mois sur Montreal via New york
new York Montreal est ce faisable en juillet en voiture ?
le passage des frontières est-il jouable avec des enfants ? pas envie d'y passer trois heures avec deux bébés ...
est -il possible de louer une voiture à new york, de sejourner au canada 12 jours et de la rendre à new york ?
Merci de votre aide
BOYVAN
BOYVAN
BOYVAN
Bonjour aussi 🤪,
NY-Montreal est fesable a toutes periodes. les voitures de locations sont confortables et climatisees, aucun probleme.
le temps que tu passeras a la frontiere dependra du l'officier de l'immigration, personne peut t'assurer que tu y passeras juste 5 minutes ou bien 3 heures. C'est tres alleatoire mais en general si tout est en regle, ca va assez vite.
Il est possible avec une voiture louee au Canada de sejourner aux USA, ca depend des loueurs et de leurs assurances, il faut le preciser lors de la location.
Bon voyage.
NY-Montreal est fesable a toutes periodes. les voitures de locations sont confortables et climatisees, aucun probleme.
le temps que tu passeras a la frontiere dependra du l'officier de l'immigration, personne peut t'assurer que tu y passeras juste 5 minutes ou bien 3 heures. C'est tres alleatoire mais en general si tout est en regle, ca va assez vite.
Il est possible avec une voiture louee au Canada de sejourner aux USA, ca depend des loueurs et de leurs assurances, il faut le preciser lors de la location.
Bon voyage.
Audrey
Si tu passes la frontière dans le charmant village de Stanstead les douaniers très cools ne se préoccuperont pas de toi !
Bon, je reconnais : 1) que ce n'est pas la route la plus directe entre NY et Montréal puisque c'est en Estrie 2) que j'ai peut-être eu de la chance le jour où j'y suis passée
Pardon pour cette info qui ne va pas t'être d'une aide capitale, c'est juste que j'ai sans doute envie d'être ailleurs 🙂 !
Dolma
Bon, je reconnais : 1) que ce n'est pas la route la plus directe entre NY et Montréal puisque c'est en Estrie 2) que j'ai peut-être eu de la chance le jour où j'y suis passée
Pardon pour cette info qui ne va pas t'être d'une aide capitale, c'est juste que j'ai sans doute envie d'être ailleurs 🙂 !
Dolma
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
Bonjour,
Réponses à vos questions...
1et 2. Oui..., mais, juillet est la haute saison et à partir du 15 juillet, il y a beaucoup de Canadiens qui partent en vacances aux USA et qui forcément rentrent au Canada. Donc, oui il peut y avoir de l'attente sur aux postes frontières Champlain (USA) - Lacolle (Qc).
Les Américains aussi voyagent de part et d'autre de la frontière.
Comme vos papiers, les vôtres, ceux des enfants (et ceux de la voiture) seront en règle, vous n'aurez rien à vous reprocher si vous devez attendre un peu. Pis dites-vous que les autorités prévoient des effectifs en conséquence pour cette période. Cette attente possible, même probable, ne devrait pas être un obstacle à venir ici.
3. Oui. Des amies de Povence ont fait un long circuit ici en 2005 et la voiture avait été prise et rendue à NYC.
Entrer au Canada depuis l' I-91 (Vermont) est une option et surtout vous ferait voyager dans les Cantons-de-l'Est, une des belles régions du Qc. Ensuite les autoroutes 55 et 10 vous mèneront à Mtl ou directement à Québec par la 55 et la 20. C'est à vous de voir avec l'aide des cartes détaillées des états américains de New York et du Vermont et du Québec pour tracer votre circuit.
Réponses à vos questions...
1et 2. Oui..., mais, juillet est la haute saison et à partir du 15 juillet, il y a beaucoup de Canadiens qui partent en vacances aux USA et qui forcément rentrent au Canada. Donc, oui il peut y avoir de l'attente sur aux postes frontières Champlain (USA) - Lacolle (Qc).
Les Américains aussi voyagent de part et d'autre de la frontière.
Comme vos papiers, les vôtres, ceux des enfants (et ceux de la voiture) seront en règle, vous n'aurez rien à vous reprocher si vous devez attendre un peu. Pis dites-vous que les autorités prévoient des effectifs en conséquence pour cette période. Cette attente possible, même probable, ne devrait pas être un obstacle à venir ici.
3. Oui. Des amies de Povence ont fait un long circuit ici en 2005 et la voiture avait été prise et rendue à NYC.
Entrer au Canada depuis l' I-91 (Vermont) est une option et surtout vous ferait voyager dans les Cantons-de-l'Est, une des belles régions du Qc. Ensuite les autoroutes 55 et 10 vous mèneront à Mtl ou directement à Québec par la 55 et la 20. C'est à vous de voir avec l'aide des cartes détaillées des états américains de New York et du Vermont et du Québec pour tracer votre circuit.
Bonjour,
Nefer a raison : passer de NY à Montréal est plus rapide que l'inverse : les Canadiens étant moins parano que les autres !
Par ailleurs étant déjà aux US, cela vous sera plus facile d' y revenir (le formulaire vert doit rester attaché au passeport) Pour la voiture aucun souci ! ça serait très différent si vous vouliez abandonner la voiture à Montréal ! Aucun loueur n'aime ça !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
La plupart des choses que les gens ont pu dire sont justes. Par contre, côté douanes, personne ne peut garantir le temps que ça prendra, ça dépend de plein de facteurs dont votre tronche et l'humeur du douanier. Les douaniers américains ne sont pas plus paranos que les canadiens, ça dépend de plein de facteurs qui ne sont pas tous prévisibles ni quantifiables. Peu importe par quelle douane vous passerez, la douanier fera son travail: s'il juge qu'il doit vous poser plus de questions, il le fera; s'il juge qu'il peut vous laisser passer sans poser de questions, il le fera. Ça n'a rien à voir avec l'emplacement du poste de douane, les nombre de véhicules faisant la file derrière, ça n'a pas non plus à voir avec la météo.
C'est au douanier de juger s'il doit vous faire confiance ou non.
Pour avoir fait le trajet dans les deux sens très souvent, à différentes heures du jour, à différentes date, à différents endroits, etc..., je n'ai jamais pu faire de liens avec quelques facteurs que ce soit dans ce qui a pu se passer entre le douanier et moi à part peut-être mon attitude et le genre de journée que celui-ci a passé avant mon arrivée.
Bref, soyez relaxe, ne dites pas de conneries, soyez souriant sans exagérer et soyez patient s'il y a beaucoup de véhicules et il n'y aura pas de problèmes! Ça peut prendre 2 minutes comme 3h00, on ne peut le savoir avant d'y passer!
C'est au douanier de juger s'il doit vous faire confiance ou non.
Pour avoir fait le trajet dans les deux sens très souvent, à différentes heures du jour, à différentes date, à différents endroits, etc..., je n'ai jamais pu faire de liens avec quelques facteurs que ce soit dans ce qui a pu se passer entre le douanier et moi à part peut-être mon attitude et le genre de journée que celui-ci a passé avant mon arrivée.
Bref, soyez relaxe, ne dites pas de conneries, soyez souriant sans exagérer et soyez patient s'il y a beaucoup de véhicules et il n'y aura pas de problèmes! Ça peut prendre 2 minutes comme 3h00, on ne peut le savoir avant d'y passer!
On croit que l'on va faire un voyage, mais bientôt c'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait. (Nicolas Bouvier, 1992)
Canada, États-Unis, Mexique, Amérique centrale, Inde, Thaïlande, Cambodge, Égypte, Israël et Jordanie: http://www.fjdelisle.net
Canada, États-Unis, Mexique, Amérique centrale, Inde, Thaïlande, Cambodge, Égypte, Israël et Jordanie: http://www.fjdelisle.net
La plupart des choses que les gens ont pu dire sont justes.
Monsieur est trop bon ! Mais Monsieur a omis un détail : BOYVAN est de ce côté de la flaque, donc son entrée aux US n'est pas du tout la même que l'entrée au Canada, tant du point de vue du type de passeport requis, que de l'éventuel visa US, dans certaines conditions. Alors que pour entrer au Canada, en tourisme, la question du passeport biométrique ne se pose pas (encore?), ainsi que celle du visa !
Monsieur est trop bon ! Mais Monsieur a omis un détail : BOYVAN est de ce côté de la flaque, donc son entrée aux US n'est pas du tout la même que l'entrée au Canada, tant du point de vue du type de passeport requis, que de l'éventuel visa US, dans certaines conditions. Alors que pour entrer au Canada, en tourisme, la question du passeport biométrique ne se pose pas (encore?), ainsi que celle du visa !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Dans la plupart des choses que les gens ont dit sont justes, ça comprend "avoir les papiers en règle".
On croit que l'on va faire un voyage, mais bientôt c'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait. (Nicolas Bouvier, 1992)
Canada, États-Unis, Mexique, Amérique centrale, Inde, Thaïlande, Cambodge, Égypte, Israël et Jordanie: http://www.fjdelisle.net
Canada, États-Unis, Mexique, Amérique centrale, Inde, Thaïlande, Cambodge, Égypte, Israël et Jordanie: http://www.fjdelisle.net
salut,
j'ai pris ma voiture de location à new-york et l'ai rendue à Montréal. Pas de problème mais une taxe d'abondon de 240 euros.
Pour passer la frontière, c'est très particulier. On n'est pas très à l'aise vu le sérieux et la tete des douanniers, ils ne rigolent pas mais c'était en juillet et nous sommes passé moi et mes 2 enfants en 30 mn. 😉😉😉
familyvaillant
Bonjour,
Vous faites allusion sans doute à des frais d'abandon qui sont imposés par les loueurs tandis que les taxes sont imposées par les gouvernements.
Pourquoi éprouver un malaise à franchir une frontière? Avez-vous déjà rencontrés des douaniers qui ne faisaient pas sérieux? Plus sérieux encore les douaniers canadiens porteront une arme, c'est vous dire!
Vous faites allusion sans doute à des frais d'abandon qui sont imposés par les loueurs tandis que les taxes sont imposées par les gouvernements.
Pourquoi éprouver un malaise à franchir une frontière? Avez-vous déjà rencontrés des douaniers qui ne faisaient pas sérieux? Plus sérieux encore les douaniers canadiens porteront une arme, c'est vous dire!
Bonjour,
je n'ai jamais franchi la frontière canado-américaine en bus. Par contre des amis l'ont fait; oui le car attend que les inspecteurs aient fait leurs vérifications d'usage.
Si vos papiers sont tous en règle, vous n'avez rien à craindre; tout va bien se passer. Maintenant c'est quoi des papiers en règle pour une Française débarquant au Canada et se dirigeant vers NYC?
Ça je ne sais pas.
je n'ai jamais franchi la frontière canado-américaine en bus. Par contre des amis l'ont fait; oui le car attend que les inspecteurs aient fait leurs vérifications d'usage.
Si vos papiers sont tous en règle, vous n'avez rien à craindre; tout va bien se passer. Maintenant c'est quoi des papiers en règle pour une Française débarquant au Canada et se dirigeant vers NYC?
Ça je ne sais pas.
Quand tu vas aux États-Unis en bus, le bus s'arrête à l'immigration et les passagers doivent descendre pour présenter leurs papiers. C'est parfois très long, 1 heure et même plus, quand il y a beaucoup de bus.
Si tu es un ressortissant français, apporte 6$ US en comptant pour payer ton visa waiver, il est obligatoire pour toi.
Sinon, c'est comme d'hab, l'agent d'immigration te demandera où tu vas, où tu logeras, combien de temps, prendra tes empreintes et fera ses petites vérifications d'usage.
Si tu es un ressortissant français, apporte 6$ US en comptant pour payer ton visa waiver, il est obligatoire pour toi.
Sinon, c'est comme d'hab, l'agent d'immigration te demandera où tu vas, où tu logeras, combien de temps, prendra tes empreintes et fera ses petites vérifications d'usage.
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Nan le bus va continuer sans ses passagers... 😏 😏 😉
En fait tu vas traverser en tant que piéton. Le car va vous déposer au poste frontière, et vous reprendre de l'autre coté une fois que tous les passagers auront réalisé les formalités d'entrée.
N'oublie pas tes 6 USD... 😉
En fait tu vas traverser en tant que piéton. Le car va vous déposer au poste frontière, et vous reprendre de l'autre coté une fois que tous les passagers auront réalisé les formalités d'entrée.
N'oublie pas tes 6 USD... 😉
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
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Bonjour
Pour avoir passé (en camping car) la frontiere USA/Canada et inversement au retour avec un enfant, demandez une carte d'imigration pour chaque enfant car au passage de la frontiere dans le sens USA /Canada la douaniere etait etonné que notre fils n'aie pas de carte d'immigration et il a fallu expliquer que en sortant des Etats Unis le douanier n'avait pas jugé nécessaire de faire une carte pour notre fils alors agé de 4 ans.
olivier d
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Bonjour,
En lisant votre réponse, qui date un peu, je voulais quand meme vous demander chez qui vous aviez loué votre véhicule pris a NY laissé a Montréal ? Sur le site alamo, par exemple, je n'arrive pas a faire de simulation, des états unis vers un autre pays .
Voyage prévu cet été . D'avance, je vous remercie Bertrand .
En lisant votre réponse, qui date un peu, je voulais quand meme vous demander chez qui vous aviez loué votre véhicule pris a NY laissé a Montréal ? Sur le site alamo, par exemple, je n'arrive pas a faire de simulation, des états unis vers un autre pays .
Voyage prévu cet été . D'avance, je vous remercie Bertrand .
Bonjour,
excusez-moi pour le retard, je n'avais plus d'ordi. J'avais pris hertz et en 2007 pour l'ouest des USA Avis avec en réservation avant avril le GPS ou voiture d'une catégorie supérieure pour le même prix. Aucun soucis que ce soit avis ou hertz.
Bonne route
familyvaillant
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan