Du Cap à la Namibie pour deux filles seules?
by Valiscrap
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je souhaite partir retrouver ma fille étudiante en Afrique du sud en janvier prochain et celà pour un séjour de deux semaines au Cap.
J'hésite sur l'organisation à visiter la côte en direction de Port Elisabeth ou à partir vers la frontière de la Namibie.
L'idée serait de voyager soit en bus soit en réservant une voiture, de pouvoir voir le maximum de choses mais sans stress vu que je serais éventuellement la seule à conduire et d'être en sécurité sur les routes car nous serons deux filles seules (mais ma fille vit à Johannesburg depuis déjà 5 mois et a acquis quelques règles de sécurité).
Quels conseils pourriez vous me donner, notamment sur la réservation de voitures, la distance et l'état des routes vers la Namibie (ainsi que l'intérêt avant d'y arriver) et le type d'hébergements que je peux réserver à un budget le plus raisonnable possible.
Merci beaucoup de vos conseils.
Bonjour,
Tu parles d'un séjour de deux semaines au Cap mais combien de temps pensez-vous consacrer à une des deux options de route?
Vers Port Elisabeth c'est envisageable en transport en commun dont le Bas Bus (http://www.bazbus.com/) qui vous conduira de d'un backpacker à l'autre. Plus difficile vers le nord et la Namibie. De plus, d'un point de vue touristique classique la côte vers PE est bien plus riche.
Si tu le souhaites, je développerai en fonction du temps dont vous disposez.
Vers Port Elisabeth c'est envisageable en transport en commun dont le Bas Bus (http://www.bazbus.com/) qui vous conduira de d'un backpacker à l'autre. Plus difficile vers le nord et la Namibie. De plus, d'un point de vue touristique classique la côte vers PE est bien plus riche.
Si tu le souhaites, je développerai en fonction du temps dont vous disposez.
Bonjour,
Je suis en Amerique Central pour le moment et je serai en Afrique du Sud pour 3 mois a partir du 19 novembre afin de continue mon Tour du Monde. J aimerai savoir votre itineraire, les choses que vous avez visiter et si cela est chere pour quelqu un de seul ( louer une voiture ) et ce n est pas trop lourd la route seul ou vaut mieux se joindre a d autre personnes si possible.
Merci
Je suis en Amerique Central pour le moment et je serai en Afrique du Sud pour 3 mois a partir du 19 novembre afin de continue mon Tour du Monde. J aimerai savoir votre itineraire, les choses que vous avez visiter et si cela est chere pour quelqu un de seul ( louer une voiture ) et ce n est pas trop lourd la route seul ou vaut mieux se joindre a d autre personnes si possible.
Merci
Bonjour Nicolas,
Tu seras en Afrique du sud avant moi mais en fonction des réservations que je vais faire dans les prochains jours, je viendrais donner des infos. Après la réponse de Voyagou, celà me confirme qu'il vaut mieux aller vers Port Elisabeth et se consacrer à cette côte et à l'intérieur des terres dans ce périmètre. Bon voyage
Tu seras en Afrique du sud avant moi mais en fonction des réservations que je vais faire dans les prochains jours, je viendrais donner des infos. Après la réponse de Voyagou, celà me confirme qu'il vaut mieux aller vers Port Elisabeth et se consacrer à cette côte et à l'intérieur des terres dans ce périmètre. Bon voyage
Bonjour et merci de ton message,
En fait celà me confirme que la côte entre le Cap et la Namibie n'est pas ce qu'il y a de plus intéressant et que deux semaines sont insuffisantes
pour découvrir à la fois la région du Cap et la frontière namibienne. La Namibie sera donc pour une autre fois !
Je crois donc que je vais me consacrer à la côte entre le Cap et George et voir s'il y a aussi des endroits à découvrir à l'intérieur des terres. J'ai un
peu peur de ne pas me sentir " assez" en Afrique sur la côte.
Je souhaite aussi prendre le temps de faire de la marche, y-a-t-il des sentiers de randonnée qui soient en sécurité ?
Je suis preneuse d'adresses pour nous loger sans trop dépenser (type auberge de jeunesse), par contre j'ai peur de l'affluence des touristes sud af
en janvier, est-ce que nous risquons d'avoir du mal à trouver ?
Merci des infos que tu pourras me donner en la matière.
La Namibie sera donc pour une autre fois !
Oui, c'est un autre voyage, et quel voyage!
et voir s'il y a aussi des endroits à découvrir à l'intérieur des terres Il faudra errer dans le Karoo (et pour deux filles, ne pas manquer Prince Albert qui dispense d'excellentes patisseries locales😉)
J'ai un peu peur de ne pas me sentir " assez" en Afrique sur la côte. C'est exact, pour cela, il faudrait aller jusqu'au Kwazulu Natal ou à ... Johannesburg (mais pour ta fille, bonjour les vacances🙁). En tout état de cause et sous de multiples aspects ce pays est très différent de l'idée qu'on se fait en général de l'"Afrique" (et de ce qu'elle est majoritairement). Mais c'est aussi ce qui en fait l'intérêt particulier.
Je souhaite aussi prendre le temps de faire de la marche, y-a-t-il des sentiers de randonnée qui soient en sécurité ? Dans cette partie du pays, les risques sont très en deça de ce que vit ta fille à Johannesburg. On peut marcher partout, dans les parcs ou pas. Un lieu parmi tant d'autres: http://www.sanparks.org/parks/garden_route/
Je suis preneuse d'adresses pour nous loger sans trop dépenser (type auberge de jeunesse), Réfères-toi au site évoqué dans mon premier message pour les liaisons et à celui-là pour les "auberges de jeunesse" http://www.coastingafrica.com/
par contre j'ai peur de l'affluence des touristes sud af en janvier, est-ce que nous risquons d'avoir du mal à trouver ? Ce n'est pas spécialement le genre de tourisme que les locaux pratiquent mais il y aura effectivement plus d'étudiants sud africains dans les backpackers. Sur le site évoqué ci-dessus tu peux réserver en ligne.
Vous pourriez aussi louer une petite voiture (20€/jour) qui vous donnera une plus grande autonomie tant pour trouver un hébergement libre et qui vous convienne que pour rallier les différents points d'intérêt dont sinon vous devrez organiser la visite avec les hébergeurs à des conditions de prix et de souplesse moins favorables. C'est ce que je ferais.
et voir s'il y a aussi des endroits à découvrir à l'intérieur des terres Il faudra errer dans le Karoo (et pour deux filles, ne pas manquer Prince Albert qui dispense d'excellentes patisseries locales😉)
J'ai un peu peur de ne pas me sentir " assez" en Afrique sur la côte. C'est exact, pour cela, il faudrait aller jusqu'au Kwazulu Natal ou à ... Johannesburg (mais pour ta fille, bonjour les vacances🙁). En tout état de cause et sous de multiples aspects ce pays est très différent de l'idée qu'on se fait en général de l'"Afrique" (et de ce qu'elle est majoritairement). Mais c'est aussi ce qui en fait l'intérêt particulier.
Je souhaite aussi prendre le temps de faire de la marche, y-a-t-il des sentiers de randonnée qui soient en sécurité ? Dans cette partie du pays, les risques sont très en deça de ce que vit ta fille à Johannesburg. On peut marcher partout, dans les parcs ou pas. Un lieu parmi tant d'autres: http://www.sanparks.org/parks/garden_route/
Je suis preneuse d'adresses pour nous loger sans trop dépenser (type auberge de jeunesse), Réfères-toi au site évoqué dans mon premier message pour les liaisons et à celui-là pour les "auberges de jeunesse" http://www.coastingafrica.com/
par contre j'ai peur de l'affluence des touristes sud af en janvier, est-ce que nous risquons d'avoir du mal à trouver ? Ce n'est pas spécialement le genre de tourisme que les locaux pratiquent mais il y aura effectivement plus d'étudiants sud africains dans les backpackers. Sur le site évoqué ci-dessus tu peux réserver en ligne.
Vous pourriez aussi louer une petite voiture (20€/jour) qui vous donnera une plus grande autonomie tant pour trouver un hébergement libre et qui vous convienne que pour rallier les différents points d'intérêt dont sinon vous devrez organiser la visite avec les hébergeurs à des conditions de prix et de souplesse moins favorables. C'est ce que je ferais.
Merci de tous ces conseils (sauf pour la patisserie 🤪 ) !
Est-ce qu'en réservant quelques nuits au Cap et en louant une voiture (si je me sors de la conduite à l'anglo saxonne) on peut sans problème ensuite se ballader au gré du vent sur la côte et trouver à se loger sans difficulté ? je préfèrerais en fait pouvoir laisser place à une certaine improvisation qui ne me semble pas problématique dans ce type de séjour et voir au fur et à mesure les endroits qui nous plaisent le plus, afin que l'on puisse décider à deux.
Je n'avais pas notion de prix pour la location d'une voiture mais à celui que tu indiques effectivement ça me paraît très intéressant.
Bon me voilà déjà avec pas mal d'indications pour préparer ce séjour , merci beaucoup.
Oui pour tout, y compris la patisserie.
(pour la conduite à gauche, un petit verre de Brandy (ils en ont d'excellent) and go!)
Bonne préparation, ce sera forcément un très beau voyage.
Bonne préparation, ce sera forcément un très beau voyage.
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This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
hi everyone! I’d like to visit Montreal and the surrounding areas in August, and I’ve got 3 weeks of vacation. I’m traveling alone and will be visiting my daughter, who recently moved there. She’ll be working and only available in the evenings! So I’m torn between spending a week in Montreal, then taking a flight to Cuba, and returning to France from Havana—or staying in Montreal and exploring the nearby areas alone.
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
From FES, I’d like to spend a few days in:
MEKNES
CHEFCHAOUEN
TETOUAN
and then return to FES.
I’m planning this trip in November.
Thanks for your tips!
I just got back from an unforgettable road trip in Madagascar where I drove down the legendary RN7. It connects Tana (the capital) to Tulear.
Since we were traveling as a group of girls, we decided to go with a guide. I’d never done an “organized” trip before, but I have to say we loved this first tailor-made travel experience.
From the highlands of the Red Island
down to the west coast, by the Mozambique Channel.
Vast landscapes as far as the eye can see
Human encounters
Discovering ancestral artisanal know-how
Sunsets over the ochre mountains
Intense, precious moments with my friends
We loved the mountains, visits to artisans, and the parties too ;-)
We used local guides to show us specific spots (like Isalo National Park, where we were able to bivouac)
Hi there,
My friend and I are traveling together between October and November 2025—no exact dates yet.
We’d love to step away from the typical travel agency packages and are hoping to rent a car locally and stay with locals, living with them rather than in a vacation rental.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all