Bonjour,
J’ai prévu de faire un voyage en Albanie début septembre pour deux semaines.
Je me demande si ma carte nationale d’identité (française) est valable pour entrer dans le pays.
En effet elle expire le 16.11.2019. J’ai lu sur Internet que les ressortissants de l’Union européenne, se voient accorder un séjour de 90 jours sans nécessité de visa, sur simple présentation de leur passeport valide au moins 3 mois après la date de retour (pour les Suisses, 3 mois après la date d'arrivée en Albanie).
Je demande si cette obligation de 3 mois concerne aussi les cartes d’identité .
Merci de me répondre rapidement car j’ai découvert cela juste au moment de prendre mon billet d’avion et j'ai donc différé mon achat.
Cordialement.
L'ambassade française à Tirana écrit : "Attention : le décret 2013-1188 instaurant un allongement de 5 ans de la validité de la CNIS ne s’applique qu’en France. Pour les autorités albanaises, la validité de votre CNIS s’arrête à la date indiquée sur votre carte.".
Ils ne disent pas là qu'il faille une marge de 90 jours après le retour du voyage, ils disent juste que si la date est dépassé quand on est en Albanie le document n'est plus valable.
Je ne suis pas du tout sûr que cette mention, au demeurant ultra-maladroite - (comment peut-on écrire des trucs pareils ?) s'applique sur cette hypothétique exigence de marge à l'entrée.
Si vous relisez encore mieux, ce n'est pas ce qu'ils écrivent.
Il est très exactement écrit :
"Les ressortissants français sont autorisés à entrer en Albanie sur présentation d’une carte nationale d’identité sécurisée (CNIS) ou un passeport français en cours de validité. Ils peuvent ainsi séjourner 90 jours sur une période de 6 mois en Albanie sans autres formalités.Attention : le décret 2013-1188 instaurant un allongement de 5 ans de la validité de la CNIS ne s’applique qu’en France. Pour les autorités albanaises, la validité de votre CNIS s’arrête à la date indiquée sur votre carte."
Rien dans ce qui est là ne s'oppose à une entrée avec une CNI qui ne dispose pas d'une marge de validité après le retour.
Michel
Oui, autant pour moi, j'avais lu en diagonale. En effet, selon la source officielle (ambassade d'Albanie) c'est pas bon.
En fait c'est cuit car il est dit sur le site de l'ambassade d'Albanie en France
"Visas
Vous n’avez pas besoin d’un visa si :
Vous êtes citoyen français (avec le passport ou la carte d'identité d’une validité de trois mois au-delà de la date prévue pour votre départ de lAlbanie)"
C'est bizarre mais c'est comme ça.🙁
J'attends toutefois des réponses aux messages que j'ai envoyés aux ambassade et consulat.
Merci à tous et bon dimanche.
Il n'y a rien de bizarre car plein de pays dans le monde ont ces exigences de durée de validité.
Pour certains c'est à la date d'arrivée, pour d'autres c'est à la date de départ.
Par exemple un Américain doit avoir un passeport valide au moins encore trois mois après sa date de départ prévue de l'espace Schengen.
Pour en revenir à l'Albanie évidemment que cela s'applique également aux cartes d'identité car il est souvent question de documents d'identité au sens large.
En tout cas c'est ce que dit la base de données IATA sur les exigences réglementaires en matière d'entrées concernant l'Albanie.
Base souvent brandie en tant que bible en la matière sur ce forum.
Et maintenant tu en apportes la preuve concrète.
www.ambasadat.gov.al/...rvices-de-lambassade
Comme je le dis à chaque fois, seule la personne qui contrôle à l'arrivée a la décision.
Il y a eu des cas ponctuels de pays acceptant pourtant la CNI +5 mais pour lesquels l'entrée de voyageurs a posé problème à des postes frontières isolés.
Tu passeras par un aéroport aussi on peut imaginer que le personnel de l'immigration sera au courant si une instruction officielle de leur pays existe quant au +5.
Les trois mois, c'est pensé au cas où on veut une rallonge, ou un autre type de visa ; et ça, c'est seulement possible avec un passeport, pas avec une CNI.
Il n'est pas du tout clair que ce soit aussi "cuit" que vous le dites ; on dira que c'est sujet à interprétation, comme toutes les réglementations, d'ailleurs. 🙂
Michel
En fait c'est cuit car il est dit sur le site de l'ambassade d'Albanie en France
"Visas
Vous n’avez pas besoin d’un visa si :
Vous êtes citoyen français (avec le passport ou la carte d'identité d’une validité de trois mois au-delà de la date prévue pour votre départ de lAlbanie)"
C'est bizarre mais c'est comme ça.🙁
J'attends toutefois des réponses aux messages que j'ai envoyés aux ambassade et consulat.
Merci à tous et bon dimanche.
Pour un ressortissant français la carte d'identité suffit pour l'Albanie. La vôtre expirant en novembre 2019 est tout à fait valable pour tout votre séjour de septembre. Aucun problème. Pas besoin de prolongation ni de passeport ni de visa.
Bonjour à. tous
Le service consulaire de l'ambassade d'Albanie vient de me confirmer que la règle des 3 mois s'applique également aux CNI.
Comme ce pays ne reconnaît pas la prorogation de 5 ans décidée par la France pour les CNI, c'est cuit pour l'Albanie cette année.
Il ne me reste plus qu'à trouver une autre destination.
Merci poir vos contributions et bons voyages.
Pour un ressortissant français la carte d'identité suffit pour l'Albanie. La vôtre expirant en novembre 2019 est tout à fait valable pour tout votre séjour de septembre. Aucun problème. Pas besoin de prolongation ni de passeport ni de visa.
Ils reprennent ce qui est indiqué sur leur site.
Mais après tout ce sont des Albanais, peut être connaissent ils mieux leur propre législation que nous ! 😉
Comme je l'ai écrit dans mon message numéro 12 cette règle existe dans plusieurs pays au monde y compris la France.
Et chaque pays à sa politique.
Amusant pour l'Albanie, les voyageurs Suisse peuvent y entrer avec leurs carte d'identité, uniquement du 15 juin au 15 septembre, le reste de l'année c'est avec le passeport.
Bricolages et malentendus.
D'ailleurs la vraie question est : un ressortissant Suisse, qui entre en Albanie le 10 août pour une semaine, doit-il avoir une carte d'identité valide plus de 90 jours après son départ présumé ? 😏
Michel
On ne voit pas bien la logique de ces mesures à géométrie variable, mais merci de l'information!
Brillant raccourci, isolant un cas particulier qui ne me concerne pas, ma remarque générale demeure. (Personnellement, je ne posais pas de question mais tentais une réponse reposant sur mon expérience.) Erreur de destinataire?
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