Cartouche de gaz MSR bouteille rouge
by Domichti
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour
à part chez décathlon, sur la route où trouve t on des cartouches de gaz MSR bouteille rouge. Peut on les remplacer par une autre marque coleman primus? merci.Dominique
« L'avenir appartient aux audacieux, il appartient à ceux qui cherchent,
qui prennent des risques...
qui assument le risque de tomber et qui se relèvent toujours de leurs épreuves
Raymond Vincent
Bonjour
les Coleman et Primus ont le même filetage, tu peux donc les mettre à la place.
à+
François
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Voyage à vélo en 2017 Asie centrale (Pamir) puis Corée et Japon : http://resilience-a-velo.over-blog.com/
merci pour les 2 conseils car chez décathlon le vendeur ne savait pas.De plus je ne savais pas qu'il fallait secouer la bouteille avant l'emploi.Mais à part décathlon quand je serai en voyage en france où pourrai je en acheter?Dominique
« L'avenir appartient aux audacieux, il appartient à ceux qui cherchent,
qui prennent des risques...
qui assument le risque de tomber et qui se relèvent toujours de leurs épreuves
Raymond Vincent
rebonjour Les cartouches tu pourras en trouvees dans les magasins de sport, une cartouche de 270 g va te duree environ 15 jours pour 10mn par jour de fonctionnement.Moi pour 2 mois de rando 3 cartouches utilises.le rechaud a gaz le plus pratique est le super fly de MSR .Le réchaud Superfly est le seul réchaud MULTI-MOUNT compatible avec toutes les cartouches du marché Campinggaz, Coleman, Primus, MSR).
A travers la France 2007
La grange Yamaska
Je ne pensais pas que pour 15 jours une seule bouteille suffisait, j'étais partie sur 3.Tant mieux ce sera moins lourd .Merci
« L'avenir appartient aux audacieux, il appartient à ceux qui cherchent,
qui prennent des risques...
qui assument le risque de tomber et qui se relèvent toujours de leurs épreuves
Raymond Vincent
il existe aussi des adaptateurs pour fixer des cartouches Camping Gaz sur des réchauds à filetage (comme ceux-ci en vente sur cyclo-randonnee.fr en bas de page ou chez Vieux);
il m'est déjà arrivé dans certains villages en france de ne rencontrer que des cartouches Camping Gaz en vente;
il m'est déjà arrivé dans certains villages en france de ne rencontrer que des cartouches Camping Gaz en vente;
pour alléger le vélo, commencez par le cycliste
C'est pas trop compliqué de connaitre la durée d'une bouteille de gaz, grosso modo, ca donne :
On trouve les bouteilles en 3 tailles Une petite bouteille (100g) : 1h Une moyenne bouteille (200g) : 2h Une grande bouteille (400g) : 4h
Après ca, tu comptes le nombre de jour de repas, ce que tu vas faire cuire et la durée de la cuisson (pâte, riz, thé...), et voila 🙂
On trouve les bouteilles en 3 tailles Une petite bouteille (100g) : 1h Une moyenne bouteille (200g) : 2h Une grande bouteille (400g) : 4h
Après ca, tu comptes le nombre de jour de repas, ce que tu vas faire cuire et la durée de la cuisson (pâte, riz, thé...), et voila 🙂
Je remonte le sujet...
On en fait quoi après?
On en fait quoi après?
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
très bonne question, on ne sait pas toujours quoi en faire après.
en principe le magazin qui t'en vend une doit t'en reprendre une vide. donc en voyage tu fais un roulement.
mais ceci n'est que théorique; de plus on n'a pas toujours finie la bouteille pile poile au moment d'en acheter une autre.
en principe aussi les déchetteries te les reprennent; mais souvent il fat être "résident", ce qui par définition, n'est pas le cas du grand voyageur que tu es!
il y a aussi les maisons de la propreté: très rares, et seulement dans les grandes villes.
bref, pas facile de s'en débarasser proprement: y'en a toujours des vides qui trainent!
cordialement,
mais ceci n'est que théorique; de plus on n'a pas toujours finie la bouteille pile poile au moment d'en acheter une autre.
en principe aussi les déchetteries te les reprennent; mais souvent il fat être "résident", ce qui par définition, n'est pas le cas du grand voyageur que tu es!
il y a aussi les maisons de la propreté: très rares, et seulement dans les grandes villes.
bref, pas facile de s'en débarasser proprement: y'en a toujours des vides qui trainent!
cordialement,
Le magasin, ça marche pas.
La déchetterie ça marche pas aussi, j'ai essayé hier, alors que je suis résident.
Maisons de la propreté connait pas?
Maisons de la propreté connait pas?
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
Chouette...
Je crois que je vais m'équiper d'un réchaud à essence!
Je crois que je vais m'équiper d'un réchaud à essence!
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
c'est vrai que c'est un vrai problème.
j'étais persuadé que les boutiques qui en vendaient devaient en reprendre, et s'assurer du bon traitement de celles-ci.
après recherche je m'apercois que les maisons de la propreté ça n'existe pas à proprement parler; je croyais que c'était un organisme existant dans toutes les villes, mais en fait c'est propre à nancy:
http://www.nancy.fr/environnement/dechet/html/dechet.php
Mais j'ose esperer que des organismes similaires existent dans les grandes villes de france.
je viens d'envoyer un mail à la maison de la propreté de nancy pour leur poser la question. s'ils me répondent, je vous tiendrai au courant
j'étais persuadé que les boutiques qui en vendaient devaient en reprendre, et s'assurer du bon traitement de celles-ci.
après recherche je m'apercois que les maisons de la propreté ça n'existe pas à proprement parler; je croyais que c'était un organisme existant dans toutes les villes, mais en fait c'est propre à nancy:
http://www.nancy.fr/environnement/dechet/html/dechet.php
Mais j'ose esperer que des organismes similaires existent dans les grandes villes de france.
je viens d'envoyer un mail à la maison de la propreté de nancy pour leur poser la question. s'ils me répondent, je vous tiendrai au courant
en France on trouve surtout les camping gaz donc effectivement se procurer l'adaptateur permettant de brancher un réchaud à vis sur une cartouche camping-gaz(voir "au vieux campeur")
mais parfois là où j'ai trouvé des camping gaz j'ai trouvé des cartouches à vis(MSr, Coleman etc.) voici ou j'ai trouvé des cartouches de camping gaz lors de mes randonnées Grande surface Carrefour, Intermarché, Castorama etc. petit supermarché de ville camping épiceries boulangerie quincaillerie droguerie magasin de sport papeterie
effectivement toutes sortes de magasins peuvent être relais camping-gaz.
moi une grande cartouche me fait 15 jour ; petit-déjeuner(1 cuisson), déjeuner(1 cuisson), dîner(1 cuisson)
en Europe c'est vraiment ce qu'il y a de plus pratique et surtout la puissance calorique du gaz est supérieure à tous les autres combustibles
Peut-être à la morte saison on a plus de mal à en trouver.
je suis très content de mon petit camping gaz de randonnée(le modèle pliant), il a tenu un an de cuisson jour après jour
quand à comment s'en débarrasser mais comme n'importe quelle boite de conserve ; dans la poubelle
mais parfois là où j'ai trouvé des camping gaz j'ai trouvé des cartouches à vis(MSr, Coleman etc.) voici ou j'ai trouvé des cartouches de camping gaz lors de mes randonnées Grande surface Carrefour, Intermarché, Castorama etc. petit supermarché de ville camping épiceries boulangerie quincaillerie droguerie magasin de sport papeterie
effectivement toutes sortes de magasins peuvent être relais camping-gaz.
moi une grande cartouche me fait 15 jour ; petit-déjeuner(1 cuisson), déjeuner(1 cuisson), dîner(1 cuisson)
en Europe c'est vraiment ce qu'il y a de plus pratique et surtout la puissance calorique du gaz est supérieure à tous les autres combustibles
Peut-être à la morte saison on a plus de mal à en trouver.
je suis très content de mon petit camping gaz de randonnée(le modèle pliant), il a tenu un an de cuisson jour après jour
quand à comment s'en débarrasser mais comme n'importe quelle boite de conserve ; dans la poubelle
quand à comment s'en débarrasser mais comme n'importe quelle boite de conserve ; dans la poubelle
Lu sur la bouteille: déposer les cartouches vides dans un endroit sûr....
Lu sur la bouteille: déposer les cartouches vides dans un endroit sûr....
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
Je re-remonte le sujet: qu'avez-ous fait des vôtres? Ne me dites pas que je suis le seul à avoir acheté ce type de réchaud!🙁
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
Pour savoir quoi faire de nos bouteilles de gaz vides que personne ne veut, il faut poser la question à Nicolas qui nous trouvera une réponse adaptée d'un coup de baguette magique.
Sinon plus sérieusement, je place mes dechets dans la première poubelle venue.
J'ai le Super fly de MSR et aucun probleme pour trouver les bouteilles car il prend toutes les marques à valves. Je ne vois pas pour le moment l'interet de l'adaptateur camping gaz. après deux ou trois magasins, je trouve toujours le modèle voulu. De toute façon j'ai toujours deux bouteilles, une en utilisation et une en reserve, ce qui me donne le temps pour avoir une recharge.
Sinon plus sérieusement, je place mes dechets dans la première poubelle venue.
J'ai le Super fly de MSR et aucun probleme pour trouver les bouteilles car il prend toutes les marques à valves. Je ne vois pas pour le moment l'interet de l'adaptateur camping gaz. après deux ou trois magasins, je trouve toujours le modèle voulu. De toute façon j'ai toujours deux bouteilles, une en utilisation et une en reserve, ce qui me donne le temps pour avoir une recharge.
Rien ne sert d'aller vite, il faut arriver à point.
Du moment que j'avance, je sais où je vais ... . Devant!
Pour moi, les cartouches à valve, c'est idem les cartouches à percer : compression avec un gros caillou pour réduire le volume dans les bagages puis poubelle "verte" (celle qui accepte les emballages métalliques).
Quant à l'adaptateur, il permet d'avoir un réchaud ultra léger quand nécessaire et que l'on est autonome en gaz (haute montagne en ce qui me concerne) et d'emporter l'adaptateur quand l'approvisionnement en gaz est plus aléatoire (voyage). Un ensemble réchaud "light" + adaptateur peut-être plus léger que le MSR Superfly (avec le Primus MicronStove Ti par exemple)
Pierre
Quant à l'adaptateur, il permet d'avoir un réchaud ultra léger quand nécessaire et que l'on est autonome en gaz (haute montagne en ce qui me concerne) et d'emporter l'adaptateur quand l'approvisionnement en gaz est plus aléatoire (voyage). Un ensemble réchaud "light" + adaptateur peut-être plus léger que le MSR Superfly (avec le Primus MicronStove Ti par exemple)
Pierre
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
je précise que le modèle dont je suis vraiment content pour ses dimensions une fois plié, son poids et sa solidité est le "twister" de camping gaz
il se vend soit seul dans une boîte qui sert à le ranger quand on ne s'en sert pas soit dans une popote dans lequel on le range
pour la popote la poignée-pince n'est pas terrible
l'allume gaz intégré marche mal donc ne pas compter dessus
en général j'ai 2 petites cartouches qui se logent toutes 2 dans la popote
j'apprécie aussi le trépied(trouvé au vieux campeur) qui vient se fixer à la base de la cartouche et qui assure une stabilité tout terrain
ce trépied est produit par une autre marque de réchaud
et aussi l'indispensable pare-vent 6 panneaux en aluminium (vieux campeur)
il se vend soit seul dans une boîte qui sert à le ranger quand on ne s'en sert pas soit dans une popote dans lequel on le range
pour la popote la poignée-pince n'est pas terrible
l'allume gaz intégré marche mal donc ne pas compter dessus
en général j'ai 2 petites cartouches qui se logent toutes 2 dans la popote
j'apprécie aussi le trépied(trouvé au vieux campeur) qui vient se fixer à la base de la cartouche et qui assure une stabilité tout terrain
ce trépied est produit par une autre marque de réchaud
et aussi l'indispensable pare-vent 6 panneaux en aluminium (vieux campeur)
Pour moi, les cartouches à valve, c'est idem les cartouches à percer : compression avec un gros caillou pour réduire le volume dans les bagages puis poubelle "verte" (celle qui accepte les emballages métalliques).
J'avoue jamais n'y avoir penser. T'es le 2e que j'entends dire qu'il fait cela. Avec la petite différence, c'est que l'autre personne perce au piolet, couteau... la cartouche avant de l'écraser, pour être sur qu'il n'y a plus de gaz.
J'avoue jamais n'y avoir penser. T'es le 2e que j'entends dire qu'il fait cela. Avec la petite différence, c'est que l'autre personne perce au piolet, couteau... la cartouche avant de l'écraser, pour être sur qu'il n'y a plus de gaz.
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Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!