Je vais avoir un temps de correspondance (en provenance de Oulan Bator) de 11h a Pekin fin juin 2009. Je voudrais savoir si je serais autorisée à sortir de l'aéroport sans visa. Et si oui, que puis-je faire en environ 8h pour tuer le temps ( et profiter of course!). Quel moyen pour me rendre de l'aéroport a Pekin? Merci d'avance.
Onze heures de transit à Pékin: sortir de l'aéroport sans visa?
by YoenBalade
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Bonjour,
Je vais avoir un temps de correspondance (en provenance de Oulan Bator) de 11h a Pekin fin juin 2009. Je voudrais savoir si je serais autorisée à sortir de l'aéroport sans visa. Et si oui, que puis-je faire en environ 8h pour tuer le temps ( et profiter of course!). Quel moyen pour me rendre de l'aéroport a Pekin? Merci d'avance.
Je vais avoir un temps de correspondance (en provenance de Oulan Bator) de 11h a Pekin fin juin 2009. Je voudrais savoir si je serais autorisée à sortir de l'aéroport sans visa. Et si oui, que puis-je faire en environ 8h pour tuer le temps ( et profiter of course!). Quel moyen pour me rendre de l'aéroport a Pekin? Merci d'avance.
Bonjour,
J'ai fait la même chose que toi cet été 2008, Oulan Bator-Pékin, transit à Pékin et Pékin-Paris
A la sortie de l'avion, les formalités sont longues, après plusieurs contrôles, in fine la Police chinoise te fait obligatoirement un visa de transit de 1 jour (soit 24 heures précises) pour accéder au bon terminal (en principe tu prends une ligne de métro interne à l'aéroport) et reprendre ton vol suivant, il n'y pas de zone de transit international
Nous avons juste eu le temps de ne pas nous perdre dans l'aéroport, de manger dans une chaine de fast food chinoise et de sortir de l'aéroport à l'air libre (c'était suffoquant et plein de smog) pour dire que l'on avait mis un pied en Chine Rien que l'aéroport en lui même c'est déjà tout un programme, nous n'avons pas essayé une visite au-delà, il y a bien des taxis
En gros tu as 3-4 heures à meubler
Bon voyage
Ernest Geay
PS : La Mongolie c'est fantastique
J'ai fait la même chose que toi cet été 2008, Oulan Bator-Pékin, transit à Pékin et Pékin-Paris
A la sortie de l'avion, les formalités sont longues, après plusieurs contrôles, in fine la Police chinoise te fait obligatoirement un visa de transit de 1 jour (soit 24 heures précises) pour accéder au bon terminal (en principe tu prends une ligne de métro interne à l'aéroport) et reprendre ton vol suivant, il n'y pas de zone de transit international
Nous avons juste eu le temps de ne pas nous perdre dans l'aéroport, de manger dans une chaine de fast food chinoise et de sortir de l'aéroport à l'air libre (c'était suffoquant et plein de smog) pour dire que l'on avait mis un pied en Chine Rien que l'aéroport en lui même c'est déjà tout un programme, nous n'avons pas essayé une visite au-delà, il y a bien des taxis
En gros tu as 3-4 heures à meubler
Bon voyage
Ernest Geay
PS : La Mongolie c'est fantastique
Mille merci pour ta réponse très claire et très précise. As tu voyagé sur Air China? Si oui, est ce si spartiate en matiere de services et inconfortable que ce que j'ai pu lire?
A noter ( pour ceux que cela pourraient interessés) que je pars de Francfort car cela me coute moi cher que de Paris de 300 euros. Bon j'habite dans l'Est, ca aide pour faire ce choix mais bon....
PS: qu'as tu fait en Mongolie?
Re,
JE me fais une autre reflexion. Si j'ai le temps au retour, je m'inquiète donc pour l'aller car je n'ai que 3 heures de transit.... D'autres infos?
JE me fais une autre reflexion. Si j'ai le temps au retour, je m'inquiète donc pour l'aller car je n'ai que 3 heures de transit.... D'autres infos?
Ne pas confondre Air China (China mainland) et China Airlines qui est une compagnie de Taiwan.
Air China offre un service trois etoiles, Generalement des B737 d'excellent niveau et un service bien au dessus de ce qu'on trouve en Europe. La ponctualité est excellente.
Le seul probleme est qu'en faisant des reservations depuis la Chine, ils n'acceptent pas les cartes de credit etrangeres. Il faut payer en Cash avant le depart... (Mais si les reservations sont faites par un agent de voyage depuis l'étranger, tout est OK.).
Les services dans les aéroports sont sous-traités, et donc de qualité variable... mais une fois à bord, c'est parfait. propre...
On sert des repas Chinois avec des bonbons au boeuf salé, mais on peut demander les bonbons aux petits pois sucrés. Ca vaut la peine d'essayer...
Les hotesses sont charmantes avec les étrangers.
Pas de soucis.
Thank you. Paul
Merci pour ta réponse. Ca me rassure. Bien que le confort ne soit pas le facteur essentiel, c'est pas mal quand meme de savoir que la compagnie est sympa.
Par contre qu'en est il de mes temps de transit ( 3 heures a l'aller, 11 h au retour). Est ce trop court pour l'aller ou suffisant, et pour le retour, aurais je le temps de sortir de l'aéroport me dégourdir les papattes et "voir" en express une ou deux place de Pékin?
C'est difficile. mais en 11 heures, c'est quand meme possible. Ca fait presque une journée.
L'aéroport est situé en périphérie de la ville, il y a une autoroute qui est quelquefois encombrée, et elle arrive dans des quartiers peu intéressants pour une visite. Il ne faut pas oublier de commencer par une photo du poste de péage dans le style classique Chinois, ca mettra le chauffeur de taxi en colère si on ouvre la portiere, mais c'est le premier souvenir à rapporter. 11 heures moins 1h30 pour les controles et bagages, puis au retour, 2 heures pour l'enregistrement, ca laisse donc 8H30.
Il faut laisser les bagages à la consigne de l'aéroport, c'est simple, rapide et bon marché. Tout de suite en face de la reprise des baggages, il y a des petits kiosques ou l'on vend a tres bon marché des cartes SIM pour telephone portable au forfait. La carte coute 15 Dollars et pour un forfait de $10, on peut telephoner localement pas mal d'heures. Ca marche dans tous les telephones GSM débloqués. Les jeunes filles qui vendent ca n'ont pas besoin de parler un mot, elles savent ce que veulent les etrangers. L'obtention du numero dure moins de deux minutes. Il y a deux ou trois services, "China Mobile" est parfait... les autres aussi probablement aussi. Je connais des confreres journalistes qui achetent ca par correspondance a l'avance chez "Panda Mobile", ca va encore plus vite. (mais ca coute pas loin de 80 US$ et ca demande un peu plus d'organisation.
Ensuite. Il faut aller au sous sol de l'aéroport ou les taxis sont reservés aux employés locaux, (pas au niveau 1 réservés aux touristes ou la file d'attente est un peu longue.) il faut alors discuter d'un forfait qui inclura la "drum tower", "Wan FuJin" (le quartier Latin de Beijing, pour l'heure du repas qu'on mangera dans la rue.), la "place Tien Anmen", le mausolée de "Mao Zedong" (au pas de course sans toutefois attirer l'attention). puis les trois principaux batiments autour de la place. Le prix des taxis "au forfait" sont ridiculement bas comparés aux taxis de mon pays. On reserve le taxi a la journée, c'est plus simple.
Il faut avoir demandé à un ami écrivant Chinois d'écrire de manière précise ce qu'on demande au taxi... Un itineraire exact, en indiquant qu'on l'appellera avec le telephone portable a la sortie de chaque micro-visite. On lui demande d'ecrire "en Yuans", le prix offert, et si c'est trop cher, on va voir le suivant... Ils ont l'habitude. Il donnera alors en echange de l'accord une carte avec son numéro de telephone mobile, , on fait un essai et c'est parti. Ne rien payer d'avance. Lui montrer qu'on prend une photo de sa plaque, et a l'interieur du taxi une photo de sa licence qui est bien affichée avec la photo du conducteur sur le tableau de bord.
J'ai déjà essayé dans un autre message d'ecrire en Chinois, mais ce site Internet a tout transformé en signes incompréhensibles...
Ne pas utiliser le "Pin'Yin", car il n'y a que les érudits qui le comprennent. Il faut savoir trois mots de "Po Ton Goi", le Chinois de la rue. En lisant la phonétique c'est tres tres facile. (arret, descendre, attendre, oui, non, pas partir, merci, content, pas content.). Si il y a le moindre probleme, retour aeroport...
Avec un peu plus de recherches, on trouve a réserver a l'avance un guide multilingue qui vous attendra a l'aéroport et vous escortera pour l'ensemble de la tournée. Je ne sais pas ou trouver ca, mais ca existe. D'habitude, ce sont les concierges d'hotels qui organisent ca comme ca... Je n'ai rien inventé!
Les formalités d'aéroport sont souvent assez longues, mais il m'est arrivé d'arriver en dernière minute et qu'un employé compréhensif alerte son chef qui m'escorte pour activer les controles... (Si l'avoin est d��jà parti, ca sera plus difficile.)... Les Chinois sont formidablement aimables et acceptent un petit pourboire discret, ca met de l'huile dans tous les rouages.
Bon... je connais bien tout ca, j'ai habité quelques années a Beijing. Apprenez a comprendre les Chinois et ils vous adoreront.
L'aéroport est situé en périphérie de la ville, il y a une autoroute qui est quelquefois encombrée, et elle arrive dans des quartiers peu intéressants pour une visite. Il ne faut pas oublier de commencer par une photo du poste de péage dans le style classique Chinois, ca mettra le chauffeur de taxi en colère si on ouvre la portiere, mais c'est le premier souvenir à rapporter. 11 heures moins 1h30 pour les controles et bagages, puis au retour, 2 heures pour l'enregistrement, ca laisse donc 8H30.
Il faut laisser les bagages à la consigne de l'aéroport, c'est simple, rapide et bon marché. Tout de suite en face de la reprise des baggages, il y a des petits kiosques ou l'on vend a tres bon marché des cartes SIM pour telephone portable au forfait. La carte coute 15 Dollars et pour un forfait de $10, on peut telephoner localement pas mal d'heures. Ca marche dans tous les telephones GSM débloqués. Les jeunes filles qui vendent ca n'ont pas besoin de parler un mot, elles savent ce que veulent les etrangers. L'obtention du numero dure moins de deux minutes. Il y a deux ou trois services, "China Mobile" est parfait... les autres aussi probablement aussi. Je connais des confreres journalistes qui achetent ca par correspondance a l'avance chez "Panda Mobile", ca va encore plus vite. (mais ca coute pas loin de 80 US$ et ca demande un peu plus d'organisation.
Ensuite. Il faut aller au sous sol de l'aéroport ou les taxis sont reservés aux employés locaux, (pas au niveau 1 réservés aux touristes ou la file d'attente est un peu longue.) il faut alors discuter d'un forfait qui inclura la "drum tower", "Wan FuJin" (le quartier Latin de Beijing, pour l'heure du repas qu'on mangera dans la rue.), la "place Tien Anmen", le mausolée de "Mao Zedong" (au pas de course sans toutefois attirer l'attention). puis les trois principaux batiments autour de la place. Le prix des taxis "au forfait" sont ridiculement bas comparés aux taxis de mon pays. On reserve le taxi a la journée, c'est plus simple.
Il faut avoir demandé à un ami écrivant Chinois d'écrire de manière précise ce qu'on demande au taxi... Un itineraire exact, en indiquant qu'on l'appellera avec le telephone portable a la sortie de chaque micro-visite. On lui demande d'ecrire "en Yuans", le prix offert, et si c'est trop cher, on va voir le suivant... Ils ont l'habitude. Il donnera alors en echange de l'accord une carte avec son numéro de telephone mobile, , on fait un essai et c'est parti. Ne rien payer d'avance. Lui montrer qu'on prend une photo de sa plaque, et a l'interieur du taxi une photo de sa licence qui est bien affichée avec la photo du conducteur sur le tableau de bord.
J'ai déjà essayé dans un autre message d'ecrire en Chinois, mais ce site Internet a tout transformé en signes incompréhensibles...
Ne pas utiliser le "Pin'Yin", car il n'y a que les érudits qui le comprennent. Il faut savoir trois mots de "Po Ton Goi", le Chinois de la rue. En lisant la phonétique c'est tres tres facile. (arret, descendre, attendre, oui, non, pas partir, merci, content, pas content.). Si il y a le moindre probleme, retour aeroport...
Avec un peu plus de recherches, on trouve a réserver a l'avance un guide multilingue qui vous attendra a l'aéroport et vous escortera pour l'ensemble de la tournée. Je ne sais pas ou trouver ca, mais ca existe. D'habitude, ce sont les concierges d'hotels qui organisent ca comme ca... Je n'ai rien inventé!
Les formalités d'aéroport sont souvent assez longues, mais il m'est arrivé d'arriver en dernière minute et qu'un employé compréhensif alerte son chef qui m'escorte pour activer les controles... (Si l'avoin est d��jà parti, ca sera plus difficile.)... Les Chinois sont formidablement aimables et acceptent un petit pourboire discret, ca met de l'huile dans tous les rouages.
Bon... je connais bien tout ca, j'ai habité quelques années a Beijing. Apprenez a comprendre les Chinois et ils vous adoreront.
Thank you. Paul
bonjour Monsieur
merci de votre réponse si complète pensez vous qu'a ce jour il soit encore possible de sortir pour quelques heures de l'aéroport de Pékin ma durée d'escale est de 10 heures environ, et cette ballade en taxi ou avec un guide me tente vraiment.
Certains disent qu'il y aun bureau pour obtenir un "visa de transit" d'autres disent que sans visa de tourisme pas de sortie pourriez vous me préciser celà svp.
Je pars dans 2 semaines pour Manille par Air China avec une escale de 7h30 du Mati a 18h00..
Que me conseillé vous de faire je suis tenter de visiter un peu tout de même..
fran68
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Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Thanks for your help, Petra
Thanks for your help, Petra
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl