Pas de carte d'entrée/sortie reçue à la frontière chinoise
by Demimonde
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous,
Je suis en ce moment en Chine, et les voyageurs rencontres au cours de mon periple ont tous rempli une carte d'entree / sortie lors de leur passage a l'immigration, dont ils conservent precieusement la partie "sortie", a remettre aux services de l'immigration lors de la sortie du territoire chinois.
Hors, j'ai passe la frontiere a Hekou en provenance du Vietnam le 23 juillet, et on ne m'a pas donne cette carte... et les fonctionnaires du Public Security Bureau a Kunming n'ont pas l'air de savoir de quoi je parle.
Je voudrais savoir si cela va me poser probleme lors de ma sortie de Chine (avion au depart de Hong-Kong), et s'il faut que je rectifie ma situation avant de tenter ma sortie.
Est-ce que l'un d'entre vous s'est deja retrouve dans cette situation?
Ou possede une connaissance appronfondie des procedures d'immigration chinoises?
Merci d'avance de votre aide!
il n y a pas de carte d'entrée a presenter a part ton tempon sur ton passeport!
il te faut juste remplir une carte de sortie juste avant de passer le controle avant ton depart. et ce papier est disponible avant le passage des frontieres.
il te faut juste remplir une carte de sortie juste avant de passer le controle avant ton depart. et ce papier est disponible avant le passage des frontieres.
Bonsoir,
Je ne connais pas l'existence de cette carte, mais ca peut etre nouveau.....
Michel
Je ne connais pas l'existence de cette carte, mais ca peut etre nouveau.....
Michel
il te faut juste remplir une carte de sortie juste avant de passer le controle avant ton depart. et ce papier est disponible avant le passage des frontieres.
je confirme, je reside en chine depuis 8 ans et apres plus d'une centaine d'alle/retour HK/Mainland j'ai toujours eu a remplir ce document.
je confirme, je reside en chine depuis 8 ans et apres plus d'une centaine d'alle/retour HK/Mainland j'ai toujours eu a remplir ce document.
Bonjour,
Une carte de débarquement à remplir, oui... Mais un volet à conserver, ça ne me dit rien...
Michel
Une carte de débarquement à remplir, oui... Mais un volet à conserver, ça ne me dit rien...
Michel
Bonjour,
Je confirme les propos de Yagao. J'ai rempli une carte arrival/departure, avec volet "departure" détachable, en avril dernier.
J'avais fait état des "importantes notices" figurant au verso de la departure card sur ce forum, notamment l'obligation de s'enregistrer au BSP dans les 24 ou 48 h si on ne loge pas en hotel/guesthouse, exigence nouvelle pour moi (tout au moins dans un passé récent).
Au recto il est marqué " retain this card in your possession, failure to do so may delay your departure", déclaration qui peut inquiéter.
Le seul intérêt, selon moi, à avoir cette carte à l'arrivée est d'avoir avec soi les 5 "important notices". Je ne vois pas en quoi celà pourrait retarder le départ car outre les renseignements personnels, cette carte ne demande que la réf. du vol, train ou bateau pour le retour. Elle n'est pas tamponnée à l'arrivée (et semble-t-il pas toujours réclamée).
Le volet détachable ne m'a pas servi, en effet AF/KLM n'ayant pas assuré le vol retour CTU/AMS je suis rentré par Air China et ai rempli à nouveau une departure card à l'embarquement à Beijing (T3).
Donc pas de souci .
Cordialement
Daniel
Je confirme les propos de Yagao. J'ai rempli une carte arrival/departure, avec volet "departure" détachable, en avril dernier.
J'avais fait état des "importantes notices" figurant au verso de la departure card sur ce forum, notamment l'obligation de s'enregistrer au BSP dans les 24 ou 48 h si on ne loge pas en hotel/guesthouse, exigence nouvelle pour moi (tout au moins dans un passé récent).
Au recto il est marqué " retain this card in your possession, failure to do so may delay your departure", déclaration qui peut inquiéter.
Le seul intérêt, selon moi, à avoir cette carte à l'arrivée est d'avoir avec soi les 5 "important notices". Je ne vois pas en quoi celà pourrait retarder le départ car outre les renseignements personnels, cette carte ne demande que la réf. du vol, train ou bateau pour le retour. Elle n'est pas tamponnée à l'arrivée (et semble-t-il pas toujours réclamée).
Le volet détachable ne m'a pas servi, en effet AF/KLM n'ayant pas assuré le vol retour CTU/AMS je suis rentré par Air China et ai rempli à nouveau une departure card à l'embarquement à Beijing (T3).
Donc pas de souci .
Cordialement
Daniel
Effectivement depuis un an la carte comporte 2 volets, un pour l'entree et un pour la sortie. A Hekou ils doivent encore avoir les anciens modeles 😉
L'avantage de cette carte est de fluidifier le depart des voyageurs (surtout ceux sans stylos 😉 )
Pas de probleme, tu trouveras a la frontiere des cartes de sortie a remplir (pour ceux qui auraient perdu la leur entre autre) 😉
PS: Dahuilan pourquoi remplir une nouvelle carte ? il te suffit de mettre ton vol retour lor du depart ou de le modifier sur la carte si tu as changer de vol 😉😉
PS: Dahuilan pourquoi remplir une nouvelle carte ? il te suffit de mettre ton vol retour lor du depart ou de le modifier sur la carte si tu as changer de vol 😉😉
"Ne croyez pas en ce qu'ils disent. Croyez en ce qu'ils font." "Bu yao xiang xing ta men suo xiang de, yao xiang xing ta men suo shuo de."
Bonjour,
J'avais rempli la departure card en même temps que l'arrival card avec la ref. du vol retour prévu (vol annulé 3 jours avant le retour). Dans le passé, j'ai dû refaire ma carte sur demande de fonctionnaires zélés qui n'aiment pas les ratures ou le chiffre 7 avec une barre horizontale alors j'évite de me trouver à nouveau dans une telle situation afin de ne pas faire la queue 2 fois.
Cordialement
Daniel
J'avais rempli la departure card en même temps que l'arrival card avec la ref. du vol retour prévu (vol annulé 3 jours avant le retour). Dans le passé, j'ai dû refaire ma carte sur demande de fonctionnaires zélés qui n'aiment pas les ratures ou le chiffre 7 avec une barre horizontale alors j'évite de me trouver à nouveau dans une telle situation afin de ne pas faire la queue 2 fois.
Cordialement
Daniel
Ben t'as pas eu de chance ! Normalement c'est le 4 qu'ils n'aiment pas 😉
"Ne croyez pas en ce qu'ils disent. Croyez en ce qu'ils font." "Bu yao xiang xing ta men suo xiang de, yao xiang xing ta men suo shuo de."
Bonjour,
Quasimment le même formulaire (departure card) que celui que j'ai rempli à quelques détails près: departure au lieu de departture, train au lieu de tran, ... bravo pour le traducteur il manque la case à cocher à coté de male/female. Les inscriptions male/female en chinois sont très mal positionnées.
Je ne vois toujours pas l'intérêt qu'il y a à avoir ce document(renseigné) pendant toute la durée du séjour
Cordialement
Quasimment le même formulaire (departure card) que celui que j'ai rempli à quelques détails près: departure au lieu de departture, train au lieu de tran, ... bravo pour le traducteur il manque la case à cocher à coté de male/female. Les inscriptions male/female en chinois sont très mal positionnées.
Je ne vois toujours pas l'intérêt qu'il y a à avoir ce document(renseigné) pendant toute la durée du séjour
Cordialement
外国人入境卡 请交边防检查官员查验
ARRIVAL CARD For immigration clearance
姓 名
Family name __ Given name __
国籍 护照号码
Nationality __ Passport No. __
在华住址 男 女
Intended address in China __ Male Female
出生日期 年Year 月Month 日Day 入境事由(只能填写一项)Purpose of visit (One only)
Date of birth |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
签证号码 会议/商务 访问 观光/休闲
Visa No __ Conference/Business Visit Sightseeing
签证签发地 探亲访友 就业 学习
Place of visa Issuance __ Visiting friends or relatives Employment Study
航班号/船名/车次 返回常住地 定居 其它
Flight No./Ship’s name/Tran No.__ Return home Settle down Others
以上申明真实准确。
I hereby declare that the statement given above is true an accurate.
签名 Signature __
ARRIVAL CARD: 外国人入境卡请交边防检查官员查验 ARRIVÉE carte pour l'immigration 姓名 Nom de famille __ Prénom __ 国籍护照号码 Nationalité __ Numéro du passeport __ 在华住址男女 Destiné adresse en Chine __ Hommes Femmes 出生日期年月Année Mois Jour日入境事由(只能填写一项) But de la visite (une seule) Date de naissance |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__| 签证号码会议/商务访问观光/休闲 Visa n ° __ Conférence / visite d'affaires Découvrez Paris 签证签发地探亲访友就业学习 Lieu de délivrance des visas __ rendre visite à des amis ou des parents d'études emploi 航班号/船名/车次返回常住地定居其它 No de vol / Ship 's nom / Tran No.__ Retour s'installer autres 以上申明真实准确. Je déclare par la présente que la déclaration faite ci-dessus est un véritable précis. 签名Signature __
ARRIVAL CARD: 外国人入境卡请交边防检查官员查验 ARRIVÉE carte pour l'immigration 姓名 Nom de famille __ Prénom __ 国籍护照号码 Nationalité __ Numéro du passeport __ 在华住址男女 Destiné adresse en Chine __ Hommes Femmes 出生日期年月Année Mois Jour日入境事由(只能填写一项) But de la visite (une seule) Date de naissance |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__| 签证号码会议/商务访问观光/休闲 Visa n ° __ Conférence / visite d'affaires Découvrez Paris 签证签发地探亲访友就业学习 Lieu de délivrance des visas __ rendre visite à des amis ou des parents d'études emploi 航班号/船名/车次返回常住地定居其它 No de vol / Ship 's nom / Tran No.__ Retour s'installer autres 以上申明真实准确. Je déclare par la présente que la déclaration faite ci-dessus est un véritable précis. 签名Signature __
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






