Choisir entre Zion National Park et Cedar Breaks National Monument
by Evadtebo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
Voilà un bout de notre road trip au mois d'août . Nous sommes 5 avec un monospace.
-Le 4 août New York /Los Angeles rècuperer la voiture chez "dollar" et nuit le quartier boulevard hollywood .
-Autoroute pour Tucson : 3 nuits et Visite de la région .
-Le mercredi 8 route pur le nord visite de "Petrified Forest" .nous dormons à Gallup "Festival indien" à cette période .
-Le jeudi 9 visite du "Canyon de Chelly " . Le soir nous dormons chez un Navajos entre Chinle et "Monument Valley ".
-Le vendredi 10 et samedi 11 nous dormons à Blanding (beaucoup moins chère que Moab) . Visite de Monument Valley le matin .Ensuite route touristique 261 et 95 l'après -midi . Le soir Blanding . Le samedi prendre la route de Moab à gauche 2 petites routes et sites :"Needles overlook" et "Needles visitor center" et " à droite church rock" . le soir , retour
-Le dimanche 12 route pour Moab , nous dormons à Green River, j'hésite ce jour là aussi pour visiter en fin de journée "Arches" ou "Canyonlands" moins de monde semble t-il ? et magnifique point de vue à "Dead Horse Point State Park".
-Le lundi 13 : très belle route 24 et 12 par "Capitol Reef" et autre sites, nous dormons à Tropic .
-Le mardi 14 : randonnée à Bryce Canyon . Nous dormons à Cedar City .
-Le mercredi 15 : Hésitation.Beaucoup de monde au mois d'août à Zion , chaleur moite et parc qui demande de faire de grandes randonnées pour bien l'apprécier. Je me demande s'il serait pas mieux de faire plutôt ce petit parc "Cedar city " à 3000 m d'altitude : falaises , panoramas et prairies fleuries en été.Ce parc me parait très beau et frais .
Le soir nous dormons à Mesquite Nevada.Le lendemain Las Vegas et "Grand Canyon en hélicoptère le vendredi matin. Ensuite jusqu'au 23 août"Death valley" , "Sequoia" et San Francisco.Retour à Paris
Je demande avis et conseil au connaisseurs.Merci
Dominique
Bonjour,
Je trouvais Zion beaucoup plus spectaculaire que Cedar Breaks, mais j'aime bien randonner. l existe quelques randonnees faciles a Zion, non seulement des randonnees plus difficiles.
A Petrified Forest NP, il faut randonner un peu afin de voir les plus vastes concentrations de bois petrifies parce que des touristes en ont vole pas mal pres des parkings.😠 Maintenant il existe des controles aux sorties du park.
Je trouvais Zion beaucoup plus spectaculaire que Cedar Breaks, mais j'aime bien randonner. l existe quelques randonnees faciles a Zion, non seulement des randonnees plus difficiles.
A Petrified Forest NP, il faut randonner un peu afin de voir les plus vastes concentrations de bois petrifies parce que des touristes en ont vole pas mal pres des parkings.😠 Maintenant il existe des controles aux sorties du park.
Bonsoir Aquilegia:
-Je ne penser pas que c'était dangereux de randonnée dans ce parc , ils ne fracturent pas les voitures quand même ?.Merci pour le renseignement . j'ai 3 grands adolescents avec nous ont ne va pas se faire attaquer j'espère (cela ne rappelle l'est de la Turquie ). Après 4 h de route.Nous devons arrivée par l'entrée sud du parc et randonné 2 fois 1 h environs dans cette partie . Ensuite sortie nord et route pour Gallup. -Je pense qu'il doit avoir beaucoup de monde à ZION au mois d'août et les navettes . Cela risque d'enlever la magie de la beauté des lieux ?
-Je ne penser pas que c'était dangereux de randonnée dans ce parc , ils ne fracturent pas les voitures quand même ?.Merci pour le renseignement . j'ai 3 grands adolescents avec nous ont ne va pas se faire attaquer j'espère (cela ne rappelle l'est de la Turquie ). Après 4 h de route.Nous devons arrivée par l'entrée sud du parc et randonné 2 fois 1 h environs dans cette partie . Ensuite sortie nord et route pour Gallup. -Je pense qu'il doit avoir beaucoup de monde à ZION au mois d'août et les navettes . Cela risque d'enlever la magie de la beauté des lieux ?
Dominique
Rebonsoir
c'est les bois pétrifies que les touristes volent . J'avais mal compris. ce n'est pas grave
Pourtant l'amende est très élevé au états-unis pour ça d'après ce que j'ai lu dans mon guide.
Dominique
Bonsoir,
Avis perso n'ayant pas encore fait Cedar Breaks NM mais ai fait Bryce et Zion. Comme vous le dites, Cedar Breaks est en altitude et quelques prairies fleuries sont présentes. Pour le reste, ça ressemble de près à Bryce Canyon mais en bien plus petit et moins spectaculaire. Vous risquerez donc d'être un peu déçu en le visitant après Bryce.
A Zion, on peut faire de petite randonnée pour avoir un bon aperçu du parc:
- Canyon Overlook à faire tôt le matin et très facile - Riverside Walk et un bout des Narrows (vous faites demi-tour quand vous voulez)
et bien d'autres en vous aidant de ce guide: www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/
Ou alors, lancez-vous dans de plus grande randonnée si vous le sentez et avez la forme physique qui va bien.
De Bryce à Zion, vous emprunterez la Scenic 9, route magnifique à ne pas manquer entre Mount Carmel Junction et Springdale !
Oui il y a du monde à Zion mais en partant tôt le matin, c'est moins contraignant.
Entre Bryce et Zion, un petit arrêt à Red Canyon si votre planning le permet.
Et enfin, si vous dormez à Cedar City, rien ne vous empêche peut être de faire les points de vues à Cedar Breaks en traversant sur votre route. Niveau rando il n'y en a qu'une de mémoire.
PS: votre planning semble chargé et peut être trop rapide. Si vous l'exposez clairement, on pourrait en discuter.
Avis perso n'ayant pas encore fait Cedar Breaks NM mais ai fait Bryce et Zion. Comme vous le dites, Cedar Breaks est en altitude et quelques prairies fleuries sont présentes. Pour le reste, ça ressemble de près à Bryce Canyon mais en bien plus petit et moins spectaculaire. Vous risquerez donc d'être un peu déçu en le visitant après Bryce.
A Zion, on peut faire de petite randonnée pour avoir un bon aperçu du parc:
- Canyon Overlook à faire tôt le matin et très facile - Riverside Walk et un bout des Narrows (vous faites demi-tour quand vous voulez)
et bien d'autres en vous aidant de ce guide: www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/
Ou alors, lancez-vous dans de plus grande randonnée si vous le sentez et avez la forme physique qui va bien.
De Bryce à Zion, vous emprunterez la Scenic 9, route magnifique à ne pas manquer entre Mount Carmel Junction et Springdale !
Oui il y a du monde à Zion mais en partant tôt le matin, c'est moins contraignant.
Entre Bryce et Zion, un petit arrêt à Red Canyon si votre planning le permet.
Et enfin, si vous dormez à Cedar City, rien ne vous empêche peut être de faire les points de vues à Cedar Breaks en traversant sur votre route. Niveau rando il n'y en a qu'une de mémoire.
PS: votre planning semble chargé et peut être trop rapide. Si vous l'exposez clairement, on pourrait en discuter.
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Il n'y a rien de comparable entre Zion et Cedar breaks.
Surtout apres avoir vu Bryce Canyon ! Cedar breaks offre quelques beaux points de vues certe mais en 1 heure vous avez vu ce qu'il y avait a voir.
Zion est un park magnifique avec aussi des randonnes tres faciles. Evitez the Narrows qui en aout doit ressembler aux heures d'affluence dans le metro parisien ou Angel landing a moins d'arriver de tres bonne heure au lever du jour ou meme avant. De toute facon il faudra arriver de tres bonne heure pour pouvoir en profiter et trouver une place de parking.
Malheureusement Kolob Canyons, qui est une partie de Zion Park accessible par la I-15, beaucoup moins visite que Zion sera ferme pour travaux.
Malheureusement Kolob Canyons, qui est une partie de Zion Park accessible par la I-15, beaucoup moins visite que Zion sera ferme pour travaux.
Beautiful Oregon.
La news pour Kolob Canyon est tombée hier. Déçu car était prévu en septembre ... plante B à trouver ...
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Bonjour Dominique, il y a une seule rando à Cedar breaks, et c'est vrai que c'est un mini Bryce canyon. Maintenant, tu peux y aller et associer cette rando à un moment détente dans un vrai paysage de montagnes, lacs et grand air. En effet c'est situé à plus de 3000m d'altitude.
A Zion, il y a une petite balade de 2kms, Canyon overlook trail, avant le tunnel en venant de l'est, qui est très jolie avec une grimpette assez douce, mais très fréquentée. Donc là aussi y être très tôt, d'autant qu'il est difficile de s'y garer.
Bestiole à Cedar Breaks en juin 2016

Bestiole à Cedar Breaks en juin 2016

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Mince ... ça commence ... j'avais pas vu pour Kolob Canyon
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Pire. La loose 🤪
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hello Arnaud
nous y serons également du 5 au 7 octobre........ bouhhhhh çà tombe mal...
mais j'ai vu que pour Kolob canyon on pouvait rejoindre Kolob arch par le sud au départ de Virgin, via hop valley trail...... wait and see
bonne soirée Sonia
mais j'ai vu que pour Kolob canyon on pouvait rejoindre Kolob arch par le sud au départ de Virgin, via hop valley trail...... wait and see
bonne soirée Sonia
Oui mais 15 miles, 24km. Comme on randonne beaucoup avant / après, on avait prévu le basique Taylor Creek Trail Trail et Timber Creek.
Bon, on va surement tenter the subway !!!
Bon, on va surement tenter the subway !!!
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BRAVO si tu tentes le Subway, mais pas pour moi : serpents d'eau - grosses difficultés - il faut un permis - et limité à 80 personnes par jour.....
y'a plus qu'à espérer que les travaux avancent plus vite que prévu!!!!!! Sonia
y'a plus qu'à espérer que les travaux avancent plus vite que prévu!!!!!! Sonia
Il y a deux chemins pour The Subway. http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/leftfork.cfm
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BRAVO si tu tentes le Subway, mais pas pour moi : serpents d'eau - grosses difficultés - il faut un permis - et limité à 80 personnes par jour.....
y'a plus qu'à espérer que les travaux avancent plus vite que prévu!!!!!! Sonia
7 mois de travaux prévu à partir du 1er mai
y'a plus qu'à espérer que les travaux avancent plus vite que prévu!!!!!! Sonia
7 mois de travaux prévu à partir du 1er mai
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Merci Arnaud pour ton site .
Merci Frede et Antoine pour les photos
Après vos avis nous allons garder "ZION" . 6 / 7 heures de randonnée à partir du matin après 85 minutes de route .C'est pas mal pour voir quelques beaux points de vue .
Dans les parcs et celui là : peut-ont manger librement en respectant la nature . Y a t-il des airs de pique nique .
Dominique
On peut pique niquer partout à condition de ramasser ses déchets, c'est le minimum comme chez nous.
A Zion, il y a un air de pique nique près du visitor center, sinon sur les trails, on s'installe comme on peut, où on veut.
A Zion, il y a un air de pique nique près du visitor center, sinon sur les trails, on s'installe comme on peut, où on veut.
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Zion, c'est sûr qu'il faut randonner car rester au fond de la vallée n'est pas terrible. J'ai essayé Angel's Landing et comptais bien aller au bout. A Scout's Lookout, qui est très beau, j'ai repris mon souffle avant d'attaquer la partie vertigineuse, je me suis lancé, ai fait 10 mètres puis immédiatement demi-tour. Mon humble avis est qu'il faut être suicidaire ou inconscient pour continuer. J'avais lu que c'est vertigineux, mais c'est tout simplement super dangereux, même avec les chaînes (qui parfois sont inexistantes). J'ai l'impression que vu le nombre de gens de toutes sortes, enfants, vieux et citadins en chaussures de tennis, qui se lancent sans même ralentir une seconde dans l'ascension finale, c'est plus l'inconscience et la naïveté qui prévalent.
Bonjour
Cet avis subjectif ( forcément) me semble irrationnel. La frustration de ne pas avoir eu l'opportunité et/ou la persévérance d'aller jusqu'au bout? Dommage! quelle vue! Moins impressionnante que celle depuis Observation Point, je vous l'accorde.
Par contre la description style 'horror movie" de la montée finale d'Angel's Landing est à mille lieues de la réalité objective. On imagine déjà des corps tombants par dizaines, le long des falaises de ce trail maudit.🤪
Oui, forcément, il y a un risque - c'est très clairement expliqué dans tout bon guide et avec la pancarte d'avertissement au début du dernier 1/2 mile. Si on respecte les règles de base (3 appuis par exemple) le risque est quasi infinitésimal. Seul moment un peu délicat les croisements montée/descente avec des gens un peu apeurés. Les rassurer, sourire, leur laisser un peu plus de place, aide grandement à leur sérénité.
Je ne suis ni naïf, ni inconscient, par contre je suis vieux .... Un dernier détail: je souffre du vertige et j'ai déjà du mal à me hisser au sommet d'un pissenlit.
Alain
Cet avis subjectif ( forcément) me semble irrationnel. La frustration de ne pas avoir eu l'opportunité et/ou la persévérance d'aller jusqu'au bout? Dommage! quelle vue! Moins impressionnante que celle depuis Observation Point, je vous l'accorde.
Par contre la description style 'horror movie" de la montée finale d'Angel's Landing est à mille lieues de la réalité objective. On imagine déjà des corps tombants par dizaines, le long des falaises de ce trail maudit.🤪
Oui, forcément, il y a un risque - c'est très clairement expliqué dans tout bon guide et avec la pancarte d'avertissement au début du dernier 1/2 mile. Si on respecte les règles de base (3 appuis par exemple) le risque est quasi infinitésimal. Seul moment un peu délicat les croisements montée/descente avec des gens un peu apeurés. Les rassurer, sourire, leur laisser un peu plus de place, aide grandement à leur sérénité.
Je ne suis ni naïf, ni inconscient, par contre je suis vieux .... Un dernier détail: je souffre du vertige et j'ai déjà du mal à me hisser au sommet d'un pissenlit.
Alain
Sur-estimation du danger et effet de groupe ?
Combien y a t'il de mort par an sur AL à Zion ? 2 entre 2009 et 2018 ? Et dans nos Alples, Vosges, Pyrénées ?
LOL désolé, mais votre vision n'est pas objective.
Combien y a t'il de mort par an sur AL à Zion ? 2 entre 2009 et 2018 ? Et dans nos Alples, Vosges, Pyrénées ?
LOL désolé, mais votre vision n'est pas objective.
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Répondez à la question, combien de mort et dans quelle circonstance ?
Interdire l'accès ? SVP, montrez moi des preuves appuyant vos dires ....
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OK et l'interdiction ?
Et comme vous savez lire et faire une recherche dans Google, vous aurez:
1. Compris que c'est depuis l'ouverture du parc en ..... donc ramener au nombre de visiteur, randonneur de AL ça fait peanuts, 115,815,890 visiteurs depuis 1919, soit 0.0000517% des visiteurs sont morts !!!! 2. Lu qu'il y a eu autant de mort sur la rando Emerald Pools que AL, lol, j'espère que vous n'y étiez pas .... panique 🤪 3. Que vous avez plus de chance de mourir écraser par un éléphant en pleine ville, ou en redressant l'applique depuis votre baignoire (cf cloclo).
SVP, n'en rajoutez pas. Votre vision est à mille lieux de la réalité !
Et comme vous savez lire et faire une recherche dans Google, vous aurez:
1. Compris que c'est depuis l'ouverture du parc en ..... donc ramener au nombre de visiteur, randonneur de AL ça fait peanuts, 115,815,890 visiteurs depuis 1919, soit 0.0000517% des visiteurs sont morts !!!! 2. Lu qu'il y a eu autant de mort sur la rando Emerald Pools que AL, lol, j'espère que vous n'y étiez pas .... panique 🤪 3. Que vous avez plus de chance de mourir écraser par un éléphant en pleine ville, ou en redressant l'applique depuis votre baignoire (cf cloclo).
SVP, n'en rajoutez pas. Votre vision est à mille lieux de la réalité !
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Quand vous êtes en porte-à-faux vous répondez n'importe quoi. C'est du niveau de votre discussion: Ouest américain: les meilleurs souvenirs dans les endroits banals
Maintenant faut y aller avec des vieillards et en basket ? Et les enfants ne sont pas les bienvenus ?
Encore du subjectif !
Y a surement des personnes âgées (vieillard est bien puéril comme terme) bien plus en forme que certain jeune de nos jours ! J'ai des BASKET de trail qui accroche plus que certaines chaussures de rando ! Et des milliers d'enfants font cette rando chaque année.
Donc finalement en tant que donneur de leçon / d'alerte, vous êtes bien ridicule ! Bonne continuation hors des sentiers battus !
Maintenant faut y aller avec des vieillards et en basket ? Et les enfants ne sont pas les bienvenus ?
Encore du subjectif !
Y a surement des personnes âgées (vieillard est bien puéril comme terme) bien plus en forme que certain jeune de nos jours ! J'ai des BASKET de trail qui accroche plus que certaines chaussures de rando ! Et des milliers d'enfants font cette rando chaque année.
Donc finalement en tant que donneur de leçon / d'alerte, vous êtes bien ridicule ! Bonne continuation hors des sentiers battus !
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Qu'est ce qui est n'importe quoi dans ma réponse ? C'est un endroit dangereux et le grand public s'y précipite sans conscience du danger. Et en basket pour certains. J'ai regardé défiler les randonneurs environ 1 h 30 donc je sais de quoi je parle. Je n'ai pas retrouvé les sites évoquant une possible fermeture permanente mais j'avais lu que certains le demandaient. Et pas la peine de hurler : je l'ai bel et bien lu et le comprend sans l'approuver.
"Du niveau de ma discussion" sur les endroits banals ? Magnifique! J'ai l'impression d'y avoir fait une réflexion sensée qui a d'ailleurs été partagée par beaucoup de voyageurs expérimentés. Quel mépris.
Le lanceur d'alerte
Le lanceur d'alerte
L'argument est fallacieux 😎
Effet mouton de Panurge? effet leader?
ça, c'est fallacieux
Par contre, l'argument: "j'ai peur, je ne pense pas avoir les capacités", je le reçois, je le comprends et je le respecte. Mais cacher ses propres faiblesses, les "exorciser" et les justifier en essayant d'effrayer inutilement des touristes suffisamment aptes à prendre une décision, non! Traiter les autres de naïfs, d'inconscients voire de meurtriers en puissance (emmener des enfants et des vieillards, incroyable ...) c'est un jugement à la fois partial et totalement incongru.
Alain
Par contre, l'argument: "j'ai peur, je ne pense pas avoir les capacités", je le reçois, je le comprends et je le respecte. Mais cacher ses propres faiblesses, les "exorciser" et les justifier en essayant d'effrayer inutilement des touristes suffisamment aptes à prendre une décision, non! Traiter les autres de naïfs, d'inconscients voire de meurtriers en puissance (emmener des enfants et des vieillards, incroyable ...) c'est un jugement à la fois partial et totalement incongru.
Alain
J'ai peur de ce genre de randonnée même si j'ai passé toutes mes vacances d'été pendant 15 ans à marcher dans les Alpes. Et je partage mon sentiment. Cette randonnée n'est pas à prendre à la légère comme beaucoup le font. Fin de mon intervention. Comme d'habitude quand on ne s'extasie pas, on se fait sauter dessus et mépriser. Ça ne m'empêche pas de contribuer.
Bonjour,
En juin 2016, un Rangers et un senior, local et habitué du parc, nous ont confirmé la dangerosité de certains sentiers.
Angels Landing Trail est fortement déconseillé si on est comme moi sujet au vertiges. Mais le sentier qui occupe le plus les sauveteurs serait , d'après eux, les Narrows, avec le froid, les chutes, les foulures etc et pourtant de très nombreux touristes, même des enfants, le font tous les ans sans souci. Alors, faites ce que vous voulez mais en connaissance de cause. @+ Jean-Jacques
En juin 2016, un Rangers et un senior, local et habitué du parc, nous ont confirmé la dangerosité de certains sentiers.
Angels Landing Trail est fortement déconseillé si on est comme moi sujet au vertiges. Mais le sentier qui occupe le plus les sauveteurs serait , d'après eux, les Narrows, avec le froid, les chutes, les foulures etc et pourtant de très nombreux touristes, même des enfants, le font tous les ans sans souci. Alors, faites ce que vous voulez mais en connaissance de cause. @+ Jean-Jacques
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So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!








