Choix d'une assurance de voyage internationale
by Loicdef
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
je pars avec mon épouse passer 6 mois en amérique latine à partir de novembre 2008 et nous recherchons une bonne assurance voyage.
entre AVI, AVA, globe partner et mondial assistance, nous ne savons que choisir, d'autant que les prix et prestations ne sont pas identiques!
quelqu'un pourrait il nous faire part de son expérience?
merci
Bonsoir
A vérifier, en cas de gros coup dur (parce que c'est quand même là le problème):le plafond de prise en charge des frais médicaux (très important)la présence et la qualité du réseau de correspondants sur place (ce sont eux qui verseront l'avance de frais à l'hôpital (qui peut être conséquente) et qui vous aideront en cas de pépin (juridique par exemple)les modalités et la qualité du rapatriement en France si besoin (équipes médicales, ...) donc le sérieux et l'expérience de la société.
Le remboursement au retour de la consultation de généraliste pour le mal de gorge, c'est à mon avis moins important😉
Je n'ai pas d'expérience vécue en tant qu' "assisté" de l' intervention des sociétés que vous citez. D'autres ici vont je pense nous en donner.
On a toujours pris Europ'assistance, c'est vraiment très bien. Par contre, on est aussi assuré avec sa carte bleue internationale, à partir du moment où on a payé le voyage avec. Se renseigner auprès de sa banque.
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Bonjour,
"on est aussi assuré avec sa carte bleue internationale, à partir du moment où on a payé le voyage avec"
Non, pas besoin d'avoir payé le voyage avec pour l'assistance rapatriement.
Michel
"on est aussi assuré avec sa carte bleue internationale, à partir du moment où on a payé le voyage avec"
Non, pas besoin d'avoir payé le voyage avec pour l'assistance rapatriement.
Michel
exact 😉 et bonsoir tatra
je rappelle qu'il faut aussi réfléchir au plafond de prise en charge des frais médicaux. Il vaut mieux une carte Premier. Parlez en à votre banque...
Bonsoir,
En fait normalement la carte Premier est liée à un seuil de montant de domiciliation de revenus ; que personnellement je n'atteins pas.
Michel
En fait normalement la carte Premier est liée à un seuil de montant de domiciliation de revenus ; que personnellement je n'atteins pas.
Michel
ben oui c'est bien le problème. Tout dépend des rapports avec son banquier 🤪.Si on peut, il faut y penser (excellent rapport qualité/prix pour le voyageur) . Sinon, comme je l'ai dit dans un précédent post, il n'est malheureusement pas possible (d'après mes informations) d' augmenter le plafond des frais médicaux en payant une surcotisation. Alors, il faut comparer les contrats.
Rappelons que les couvertures classiques (des cartes de crédit en particulier) sont limitées à 90 jours. Après, à Europ Assistance, on rentre dans l'assurance temporaire.
....
"Tout dépend des rapports avec son banquier "
La rigidité du mien sur ce point lui a déjà coûté fort cher... 😏 Non, on ne peut pas augmenter le seuil par surcotisation, je ne crois pas.
Michel
"Tout dépend des rapports avec son banquier "
La rigidité du mien sur ce point lui a déjà coûté fort cher... 😏 Non, on ne peut pas augmenter le seuil par surcotisation, je ne crois pas.
Michel
Je suis désolée, mais il faut payer avec sa carte pour bénéficier du rapatriment. On part bientôt en voyage, et le fait d'avoir payé avec notre carte internationale, nous permet d'avoir toutes les assistances.
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Bonjour,
" Je suis désolée, mais il faut payer avec sa carte pour bénéficier du rapatriment"
Faux.
" On part bientôt en voyage, et le fait d'avoir payé avec notre carte internationale, nous permet d'avoir toutes les assistances. "
Encore faux.
Michel
" Je suis désolée, mais il faut payer avec sa carte pour bénéficier du rapatriment"
Faux.
" On part bientôt en voyage, et le fait d'avoir payé avec notre carte internationale, nous permet d'avoir toutes les assistances. "
Encore faux.
Michel
C'est pas du tout faux, on a le contrat sous les yeux et c'est stipulé noir sur blanc. De toute façon, c'est logique, faut bien qu'ils soient payés quelque part. Ils ne vont pas faire de l'assistance gratos...
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Et bien alors vous avez la seule carte visa internationale qui stipule ça. 🙂
C'est faux parce que c'est le fait de détenir la carte qui procure l'assurance rapatriement ; de toutes façons autrement ça ne pourrait pas marcher pour tous les trajets routiers : que faudrait-il avoir payé par carte ? Le carburant ? La voiture ? 😏
Alors j'enfonce un peu le clou : toutes les cartes Visa inernationales françaises comprennent cette assurance rapatriement, sans qu'il soit nécessaire de les avoir utilisées pour payer les billets.
Michel
C'est faux parce que c'est le fait de détenir la carte qui procure l'assurance rapatriement ; de toutes façons autrement ça ne pourrait pas marcher pour tous les trajets routiers : que faudrait-il avoir payé par carte ? Le carburant ? La voiture ? 😏
Alors j'enfonce un peu le clou : toutes les cartes Visa inernationales françaises comprennent cette assurance rapatriement, sans qu'il soit nécessaire de les avoir utilisées pour payer les billets.
Michel
On a téléphoné à la banque, elle nous a dit elle-même qu'il fallait payer avec pour être assuré. Maintenant, si vous avez plusieurs cartes bleues, ça change rien, il faudra utiliser l'assurance qui correspond à la carte qui a été utilisée.
Bref, on changera rien à cette idée, la banque, je pense, est mieux à même de nous répondre que quiconque sur ce forum !
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Bonjour encore,
" On a téléphoné à la banque, elle nous a dit elle-même qu'il fallait payer avec pour être assuré. Maintenant, si vous avez plusieurs cartes bleues, ça change rien, il faudra utiliser l'assurance qui correspond à la carte qui a été utilisée."
Et bien, quoiqu'ouverte le dimanche, elle vous a raconté des bobards. 😏
Les assurances annulation et bagages, oui, sont subordonnées au fait d'avoir payé par carte ; les assurances rapatriement, non.
"Bref, on changera rien à cette idée, la banque, je pense, est mieux à même de nous répondre que quiconque sur ce forum !"
Justement, les banques ne connaissent rien aux produits associés aux cartes qu'elles distribuent.
Allez sur le site qui convient, et faites le test - il faut le numéro de la carte.
Michel
" On a téléphoné à la banque, elle nous a dit elle-même qu'il fallait payer avec pour être assuré. Maintenant, si vous avez plusieurs cartes bleues, ça change rien, il faudra utiliser l'assurance qui correspond à la carte qui a été utilisée."
Et bien, quoiqu'ouverte le dimanche, elle vous a raconté des bobards. 😏
Les assurances annulation et bagages, oui, sont subordonnées au fait d'avoir payé par carte ; les assurances rapatriement, non.
"Bref, on changera rien à cette idée, la banque, je pense, est mieux à même de nous répondre que quiconque sur ce forum !"
Justement, les banques ne connaissent rien aux produits associés aux cartes qu'elles distribuent.
Allez sur le site qui convient, et faites le test - il faut le numéro de la carte.
Michel
Bonjour Madame
Du calme....Je ne voudrais pas vous vexer, mais je confirme ce que dit tatra: Vous avez tort.
vous mélangez probablement l'assurance invalidité-décès assurée par Gras Savoye qui nécessite le réglement du voyage avec la carte, et l'assistance (prise en charge des frais médicaux, rapatriement) Europ Assistance qui intervient sans obligation de réglement avec la carte.
Vous pouvez trouver les conditions pour la Visa standard par exemple ici http://jeunes.societegenerale.fr/...otice_Bleue_Visa.pdf
et les conditions pour la carte premier ici http://www.particuliers.credit-du-nord.fr/...rte_visa_premier.pdf
et bien sûr sur le site dont vous a parlé tatra, , avec votre numéro de carte
Si vous avez encore un doute, plutôt qu'appeller votre agence bancaire (qui ne fait que vendre le produit), je vous conseille de contacter directement Europ Assistance.
et les conditions pour la carte premier ici http://www.particuliers.credit-du-nord.fr/...rte_visa_premier.pdf
et bien sûr sur le site dont vous a parlé tatra, , avec votre numéro de carte
Si vous avez encore un doute, plutôt qu'appeller votre agence bancaire (qui ne fait que vendre le produit), je vous conseille de contacter directement Europ Assistance.
Notre banque est alliée avec Europ'Assistance, donc on a toutes les garanties, mais elle stipule (bien que fermée le dimanche ! Et même le samedi ! lol)
qu'il faut payer avec. Donc, ça peut peut-être dépendre des banques.
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Re.... 😠🤪😄
" mais elle stipule (bien que fermée le dimanche ! Et même le samedi ! lol) qu'il faut payer avec."
Soit on vous a dit des bêtises, soit vous avez mal compris.
"Donc, ça peut peut-être dépendre des banques."
Non.
Michel
" mais elle stipule (bien que fermée le dimanche ! Et même le samedi ! lol) qu'il faut payer avec."
Soit on vous a dit des bêtises, soit vous avez mal compris.
"Donc, ça peut peut-être dépendre des banques."
Non.
Michel
Re....
" Je persiste et signe...."
Vous avez le droit de persister dans l'erreur si vous voulez, mais essayez au moins de ne tromper personne sur Vf.
Et juste pour rire, vous pouvez m'expliquer ce qu'il faut payer avec la carte pour que l'assurance assistance rapatriement fonctionne pour un voyage en voiture à l'étranger ? 😏
Michel
" Je persiste et signe...."
Vous avez le droit de persister dans l'erreur si vous voulez, mais essayez au moins de ne tromper personne sur Vf.
Et juste pour rire, vous pouvez m'expliquer ce qu'il faut payer avec la carte pour que l'assurance assistance rapatriement fonctionne pour un voyage en voiture à l'étranger ? 😏
Michel
Et puisque vous disiez avoir le contrat noir sur blanc sous les yeux, recopiez donc les quelques lignes qui selon vous disent cela, qu'on tire ça au clair.
Michel
Michel
Votre banque n'est pas "alliée" (?) avec Europ Assistance, elle vend des cartes bleues et est associée de la SAS Carte Bleue, qui a signé un contrat avec Europ Assistance pour la fourniture de prestations d'assistance. Ce contrat est sur un des liens que je vous ai fournis.
Ou alors votre carte Visa est étrangère...
Je vais effectivement appeler Europ'Assistance. La banque m'a affirmé ce fait, maintenant si j'ai tort, mea culpa. Ou alors ma banque voulait-elle que je paye avec eux ? J'en sais rien, je commence à avoir des doutes...
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Je pense plutôt que votre conseiller bancaire a fait la confusion classique entre assurance et assistance.
Holà Michel,
Renseignes toi auprès de ta banque car la mienne (BNP) ne m'a pas fait de prob pour la carte visa premier. Dèp que jâi parlé de mon voyage ma conseillère me l'a de suite proposé sans faire état de mes revenus.
Bonne organisation de ton voyage...moi je par dans 8 jours ! 😉 Isbane
Renseignes toi auprès de ta banque car la mienne (BNP) ne m'a pas fait de prob pour la carte visa premier. Dèp que jâi parlé de mon voyage ma conseillère me l'a de suite proposé sans faire état de mes revenus.
Bonne organisation de ton voyage...moi je par dans 8 jours ! 😉 Isbane
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What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!