Circuit le long de la côte entre Alger et Oran (en transport en commun)
by Poto
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Quels conseils avisés donneriez-vous pour un séjour entre le 15 octobre et début novembre.
Rien n'est encore arrêté mais il est fort probable que ce sera un aller-retour sur Alger.
Les dates par rapport au climat sont-elles convenables sachant que nous n'irons pas dans le sud du pays. On envisage un circuit plus ou moins le long de la côte entre Alger et Oran.
Quels endroit recommanderiez-vous plus particulièrement? Nous voyageons en couple, en utilisant de préférence les transports en commun, allons dans des hôtels plutôt simples mais propres.
Bref, tous les conseils pratiques et de visites dans le secteur évoqué sont bienvenus.
Merci à tous.
bonsoir Poto
....juste une question , pourquoi l’Algérie ?
cdlt
cdlt
vive les martyrs de 54
Bonjour,
Pour visiter la côte nord de l'Algérie, tout devrait se faire assez facilement. Mes conseils : - Pour y aller à l'automne, commencez vos formalités tout de suite : il peut arriver que le visa soit refusé, et si vous devez faire une autre demande, l'accord tardif risque ensuite de ne plus vous permettre de trouver de vols à bas prix. - Vérifiez d'abord la date de validité de votre passeport. - Demandez à votre assurance un justificatif valable pour l'Algérie, ou bien souscrivez une assurance spécifique pour ce voyage, elle vous sera demandée au consulat. - Si c'est pour un voyage court, ne vous formalisez pas trop sur les justificatifs de revenus, pour mes demandes je n'ai même pas eu besoin de les fournir, il est possible que le consulat ne vous les demande même pas (mais mieux vaut avoir quelque-chose à présenter au cas où). - Arriver à Alger vous permet de choisir parmi différentes compagnies d'avion. Air Algérie est la compagnie nationale. Elle rencontre un grand nombre de critiques, un peu comme Air France vis à vis des français, il parait que les vols sont souvent en retard, ça n'est pas forcément une catastrophe quand on a le temps de faire du tourisme. - Les grandes villes du nord de l'Algérie sont plus chères que celles plus au sud, mais tout de même en général bien moins chères que les villes du bord de mer en France. - Réserver le même hôtel à Alger pour la nuit de votre arrivée et pour celle précédant votre retour vous permettra d'avoir un justificatif pour obtenir le visa pour la totalité de la durée de votre séjour. - Avec votre réservation d'hôtel, allez au consulat demander votre visa (à payer en espèces). - C'est préférable de ne réserver votre billet d'avion qu'après avoir obtenu votre visa. - Pour les nuits autres que départ et arrivée, si vous préférez tout organiser à l'avance, vous pouvez, mais sinon en n'étant pas trop exigeants vous trouverez des hôtels assez facilement. - N'amenez pas de jumelles pour regarder les paysages, il est interdit d'amener ce genre d'appareil en Algérie, elles vous seraient confisquées à l'aéroport. - Il y a peu d'arnaques, en particulier chez les commerçants. Sauf certains taxis qui profitent des touristes qui n'ont pas encore l'habitude. - Vous aurez peu d'endroits où vous pourrez utiliser la Carte Bancaire, il est préférable d'avoir des espèces. Vous devrez les changer en arrivant (pas de possibilité officielle de changer avant d'être dans le pays, sauf arrangement privé avec des algériens). Il y a toujours des discussions entre utiliser les bureaux de change officiels (dans l'aéroport ou dans les banques), ou le change dans la rue (2 fois plus avantageux, en principe complètement interdit, mais tout de même très utilisé). - Les trains sont peu chers par rapport à la France. - Les cars sont très peu chers, beaucoup moins que les trains. C'est un peu plus difficile pour les trouver, pour savoir où sont les arrêts. - Les grands taxis sont encore moins chers que les cars. La façon de conduire fait parfois un peu peur. - Les trams et bus sont très peu chers. - Les taxis ont un peu plus tendance à avoir des prix plus élevés, mieux vaut se renseigner avant pour savoir à peu près combien ça coûte afin de payer le juste prix. - Se promener à pied est tout à fait possible. - Vous pouvez visiter par vous-mêmes, l'accueil est en général très bon presque partout. Si vous voulez visiter des mosquées, pour les plus grandes en principe un accueil des étrangers et une visite au moins partielle sont organisés. Pour les petites mosquées de quartier, certains imams apprécient beaucoup d'expliquer leur pratique et de faire visiter aux étrangers, d'autres sont plus rigoureux, ou méfiants, ou tiennent au respect du lieu et n'acceptent pas les visites de curiosité. - Comme dans la plupart des pays, évitez de prendre en photo les personnels ou équipements militaires. - Certains endroits sont interdits, par exemple quand nous sommes allés nous promener sur le port de pêche d'Oran, nous avons trouvé une telle zone, mais en demandant aux gardes, ils nous ont proposé de passer par un autre poste, où un responsable nous a donné l'autorisation d'aller sur les quais, nous avons pu discuter avec les petits pêcheurs, aller sur les bateaux de certains d'entre eux. - Les musées sont un bon moyen de découvrir certains aspects du pays.
Pour visiter la côte nord de l'Algérie, tout devrait se faire assez facilement. Mes conseils : - Pour y aller à l'automne, commencez vos formalités tout de suite : il peut arriver que le visa soit refusé, et si vous devez faire une autre demande, l'accord tardif risque ensuite de ne plus vous permettre de trouver de vols à bas prix. - Vérifiez d'abord la date de validité de votre passeport. - Demandez à votre assurance un justificatif valable pour l'Algérie, ou bien souscrivez une assurance spécifique pour ce voyage, elle vous sera demandée au consulat. - Si c'est pour un voyage court, ne vous formalisez pas trop sur les justificatifs de revenus, pour mes demandes je n'ai même pas eu besoin de les fournir, il est possible que le consulat ne vous les demande même pas (mais mieux vaut avoir quelque-chose à présenter au cas où). - Arriver à Alger vous permet de choisir parmi différentes compagnies d'avion. Air Algérie est la compagnie nationale. Elle rencontre un grand nombre de critiques, un peu comme Air France vis à vis des français, il parait que les vols sont souvent en retard, ça n'est pas forcément une catastrophe quand on a le temps de faire du tourisme. - Les grandes villes du nord de l'Algérie sont plus chères que celles plus au sud, mais tout de même en général bien moins chères que les villes du bord de mer en France. - Réserver le même hôtel à Alger pour la nuit de votre arrivée et pour celle précédant votre retour vous permettra d'avoir un justificatif pour obtenir le visa pour la totalité de la durée de votre séjour. - Avec votre réservation d'hôtel, allez au consulat demander votre visa (à payer en espèces). - C'est préférable de ne réserver votre billet d'avion qu'après avoir obtenu votre visa. - Pour les nuits autres que départ et arrivée, si vous préférez tout organiser à l'avance, vous pouvez, mais sinon en n'étant pas trop exigeants vous trouverez des hôtels assez facilement. - N'amenez pas de jumelles pour regarder les paysages, il est interdit d'amener ce genre d'appareil en Algérie, elles vous seraient confisquées à l'aéroport. - Il y a peu d'arnaques, en particulier chez les commerçants. Sauf certains taxis qui profitent des touristes qui n'ont pas encore l'habitude. - Vous aurez peu d'endroits où vous pourrez utiliser la Carte Bancaire, il est préférable d'avoir des espèces. Vous devrez les changer en arrivant (pas de possibilité officielle de changer avant d'être dans le pays, sauf arrangement privé avec des algériens). Il y a toujours des discussions entre utiliser les bureaux de change officiels (dans l'aéroport ou dans les banques), ou le change dans la rue (2 fois plus avantageux, en principe complètement interdit, mais tout de même très utilisé). - Les trains sont peu chers par rapport à la France. - Les cars sont très peu chers, beaucoup moins que les trains. C'est un peu plus difficile pour les trouver, pour savoir où sont les arrêts. - Les grands taxis sont encore moins chers que les cars. La façon de conduire fait parfois un peu peur. - Les trams et bus sont très peu chers. - Les taxis ont un peu plus tendance à avoir des prix plus élevés, mieux vaut se renseigner avant pour savoir à peu près combien ça coûte afin de payer le juste prix. - Se promener à pied est tout à fait possible. - Vous pouvez visiter par vous-mêmes, l'accueil est en général très bon presque partout. Si vous voulez visiter des mosquées, pour les plus grandes en principe un accueil des étrangers et une visite au moins partielle sont organisés. Pour les petites mosquées de quartier, certains imams apprécient beaucoup d'expliquer leur pratique et de faire visiter aux étrangers, d'autres sont plus rigoureux, ou méfiants, ou tiennent au respect du lieu et n'acceptent pas les visites de curiosité. - Comme dans la plupart des pays, évitez de prendre en photo les personnels ou équipements militaires. - Certains endroits sont interdits, par exemple quand nous sommes allés nous promener sur le port de pêche d'Oran, nous avons trouvé une telle zone, mais en demandant aux gardes, ils nous ont proposé de passer par un autre poste, où un responsable nous a donné l'autorisation d'aller sur les quais, nous avons pu discuter avec les petits pêcheurs, aller sur les bateaux de certains d'entre eux. - Les musées sont un bon moyen de découvrir certains aspects du pays.
Bernard
Bonjour,
Tres bonne idée de voyager en Algerie en Automne. (température clémente) Vous pouvez vous rendre à Oran en avion avec Air Algerie en moins d'une heure pour seulement 25€ c'est la meilleure solution, même si le voyage en train et en voiture sur autoroute sont également des bonnes solutions
je vous conseil de vous rendre à Tlemcen à deux heures de routes d'Oran c'est une magnifique ville. vous pourriez reprendre un vol depuis Tlemcen pour Alger pour une vingtaine d'euros.
Bon voyage.
Tres bonne idée de voyager en Algerie en Automne. (température clémente) Vous pouvez vous rendre à Oran en avion avec Air Algerie en moins d'une heure pour seulement 25€ c'est la meilleure solution, même si le voyage en train et en voiture sur autoroute sont également des bonnes solutions
je vous conseil de vous rendre à Tlemcen à deux heures de routes d'Oran c'est une magnifique ville. vous pourriez reprendre un vol depuis Tlemcen pour Alger pour une vingtaine d'euros.
Bon voyage.
Merci pour ce condensé de tous les guides touristiques possibles, que je plussoie.
...bon voyage Poto, ta réponse me suffit et revient nous voir en nous racontons ton voyage
Cdlt
Cdlt
vive les martyrs de 54
Bonjour Bernard.
Cela fait longtemps que je désire visité au moins une partie du nord de l'Algérie.
Je ne voyage que d'une seule façon.
Soit j'estime que la proximité du pays me permet de m'y rendre avec mon bon vieux camping-car Volkswagen Transporter T 3, soit je loue une voiture à l'arrivée.
Plusieurs relations m'ont confirmé que le tourisme en Algérie se développe considérablement et que mon mode de voyage était devenu possible.
Etant en Algarve et Andalousie courant Octobre, donc voici mon projet :
- prendre un ferry d'Almeria à Gazhouet (ou Oran) avec mon VW
- ensuite "itinéré" le long de la côte et l'intérieur immédiat.
Ensuite retour à Gazahouet- Amléria et Algésiras d'où je prendrai pour la nième fois le ferry pour le Maroc.
Tous conseils seront les bienvenus.
Merci à tous
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In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!




