Circuler en Thaïlande
by ACVigneresse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je me demandais ce qu'il en était de circuler en voiture en Thaïlande.
J'ai lu dans les guides que c'était fortement déconseillé. avez-vous des expériences allant dans ce sens ? 🙁
Est-il facile de louer une voiture ? Coût ?
Est-ce périlleux dans tout le pays ou surtout vers Bangkok ?
ACV
Salut😉
on roule à gauche la bas et la prioritée est au plus gros et/ou au plus présser!!!!
c'est déconseillé car en cas d'accident, les touristes sont toujours en tord (dans le sens ou, en fait, faudra payer si tu veux t'arranger à l'amiable étant donné que ton permis n'est pas valable la bas)
De plus, vu la circulation à Bangkok (tres dense) et que le code de la route n'est pas respecté🤪 vaut mieux pas tenter le coup!!!!!
Apres dans les androits ou il y a moins de circulation pourquoi pas!!!
mais franchement vu le prix des transports en commun et des taxis je ne le ferai pas!!!
Tu peux louer une moto pour te balader mais c'est pareil!!!!
En fait tu peux faire ce que tu veux mais faut pas avoir d'accident😄😏😏!!!!
A+
En fait tu peux faire ce que tu veux mais faut pas avoir d'accident😄😏😏!!!!
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Je me demandais ce qu'il en était de circuler en voiture en Thaïlande.
J'ai lu dans les guides que c'était fortement déconseillé. avez-vous des expériences allant dans ce sens ? 🙁
Est-il facile de louer une voiture ? Coût ?
Est-ce périlleux dans tout le pays ou surtout vers Bangkok ?
Salut,
j'ai conduis plusieurs fois en Thailande, en moto, en vélo, en voiture. Un permis de conduire international est indispensable, tu peux conduire légalement avec ceci sans problèmes. Là où ç'est plus difficile, c'est concernant le code de conduite suivi par les usagers, .....il n'est quasiment pas suivi. Comme dis précédemment, les priorités sont aux plus gros, et aux plus pressés. Bref, si tu veux passer, tu forçes, c'est tout. Attention aux conducteurs venant d'en face, ils dépassent volontiers, en passant les lignes continues et les doubles lignes, il faut donc conduire très prudemment, avoir des yeux partout. Hier un accident a eu lieu à Phuket sur la route reliant Chalong à Kata, un camion citerne d'eau a dépassé les lignes, a percuté un pick up venant d'en face, le pick up a à son tour renversé une femme sur sa motocyclette qui se trouvait derrière, elle a perdu la vie. Le conducteur du camion citerne s'est enfui. Des accidents, j'en ai eu beaucoup, à Koh Samui, c'est un Australien bourrée au whisky qui m'est rentré dedans à 5 h du matin, j'allais à l'aéroport, lui rentrait se coucher, j'étais sur ma voie, lui s'est fait déportée. Sans casque le gars, sans assurance, bref... Une autre fois c'est en moto, j'ai été recousu au genoux. Et des accidents, j'en ai vu beaucoup, encore récemment à Pagong, un refus de donner la priorité, une femme et son enfant sont tombés de la motocyclette, heureusement rien. L'autre fois, à Nai Harn, un européen est tombé de sa moto à cause d'un nid de poule sur la route... Bref, c'est très souvent, la première cause de mortalité chez les touristes à Phuket, c'est les accidents de la route. Pour ce qui est des locations, oui, tu peux trouver facilement, également à Bkk. Le trafic à Bangkok est une horreur, bien que cela se soit amélioré depuis la mise en place des transports en commun comme le métro et le BST. Mais pour passer des vacances tranquilles à Bkk, je déconseille, et je conseille les transports en commun. Louer une voiture c'est bien pour découvrir certains endroits éloignés et avoir une indépendance.
A plus.
Salut,
j'ai conduis plusieurs fois en Thailande, en moto, en vélo, en voiture. Un permis de conduire international est indispensable, tu peux conduire légalement avec ceci sans problèmes. Là où ç'est plus difficile, c'est concernant le code de conduite suivi par les usagers, .....il n'est quasiment pas suivi. Comme dis précédemment, les priorités sont aux plus gros, et aux plus pressés. Bref, si tu veux passer, tu forçes, c'est tout. Attention aux conducteurs venant d'en face, ils dépassent volontiers, en passant les lignes continues et les doubles lignes, il faut donc conduire très prudemment, avoir des yeux partout. Hier un accident a eu lieu à Phuket sur la route reliant Chalong à Kata, un camion citerne d'eau a dépassé les lignes, a percuté un pick up venant d'en face, le pick up a à son tour renversé une femme sur sa motocyclette qui se trouvait derrière, elle a perdu la vie. Le conducteur du camion citerne s'est enfui. Des accidents, j'en ai eu beaucoup, à Koh Samui, c'est un Australien bourrée au whisky qui m'est rentré dedans à 5 h du matin, j'allais à l'aéroport, lui rentrait se coucher, j'étais sur ma voie, lui s'est fait déportée. Sans casque le gars, sans assurance, bref... Une autre fois c'est en moto, j'ai été recousu au genoux. Et des accidents, j'en ai vu beaucoup, encore récemment à Pagong, un refus de donner la priorité, une femme et son enfant sont tombés de la motocyclette, heureusement rien. L'autre fois, à Nai Harn, un européen est tombé de sa moto à cause d'un nid de poule sur la route... Bref, c'est très souvent, la première cause de mortalité chez les touristes à Phuket, c'est les accidents de la route. Pour ce qui est des locations, oui, tu peux trouver facilement, également à Bkk. Le trafic à Bangkok est une horreur, bien que cela se soit amélioré depuis la mise en place des transports en commun comme le métro et le BST. Mais pour passer des vacances tranquilles à Bkk, je déconseille, et je conseille les transports en commun. Louer une voiture c'est bien pour découvrir certains endroits éloignés et avoir une indépendance.
A plus.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Tout dépend où en Thaïlande. Comme l'a dit Salsa, il y a énormément d'accidents notament en raison de l'ignorance du code de la route par les Thaïs... et par certains touristes aussi! J'ai failli me faire renverser hier par une énooooorme touriste sur son scooter alors que je traversais la route sur un passage pour piétons. Sans parler de l'alcool!
Ceci dit, si tu visites des coins plus reculés, ça peut être bien de louer une voiture. A Bkk en aucun cas car tu as les transports publics et les taxis qui sont bon marchés.
Les prix vont de 700 bahts à 3000 bahts en moyenne par jour selon le type de voiture et le lieu de location. Les prix sont en général dégressifs en fonction de la durée de location. Mais si tu n'as jamais conduit à gauche, tu risques d'être un peu surpris, notament pour changer les vitesses (avec la main gauche) ou lorsque tu arrives dans un giratoire.
En tout les cas je te conseille la plus grande prudence car s'il t'arrive quoi que ce soit, tu seras responsable aux yeux du policier.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
j'ajouterai que si tu loues, vérifie bien l'état du véhicule avant de le conduire, et n'hésites pas à faire remarquer les petites bosses et autres petits problèmes que l'on pourra peut être t'en donner la responsabilité à la restitution.
Vérifie aussi si il y a une assurance "chang neung", c'est à dire tout compris. Il reste néanmoins une franchise qui t'es imputable en cas d'accident.
Salut.
Salut.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Ok merci du conseil. On prendra le bus, le train voir l'avion (entre Chiang Rai et bangkok par exemple) si ce n'est pas trop cher. Et puis le taxi pour aller sur les sites éloignés des villes.
ACV
Pas très encourageant tout ça ! Je crois qu'on va s'abstenir...Merci quand même pour les infos.
Mais par curiosité, ça consiste en quoi le permis international ? Un papier à se procurer où ?
ACV
Le permis international est un papier délivré gratuitement par la sous préfecture la plus proche de ton domicile, il te suffit juste de ton permis national et une photo d'identité, et si tu es chanceuse comme moi, 20 minutes plus tard tu sort avec ton jolie permis international, attention celui ci n'est valable que trois ans.
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Petite question, en France le permis de conduire n'est-il qu'en français ou y a-t-il plusieurs langues?
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Petite question, en France le permis de conduire n'est-il qu'en français ou y a-t-il plusieurs langues?
Bonne question, je viens de regarder en première page c'est en 11 langues + en français bien sur disant dans ces langues ""permis de conduire"" modèle des communautés Européennes . Le reste sur les autres pages en français .
Bonne question, je viens de regarder en première page c'est en 11 langues + en français bien sur disant dans ces langues ""permis de conduire"" modèle des communautés Européennes . Le reste sur les autres pages en français .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Donc s'il y a les infos en anglais, pourquoi faire un permis international?
En Suisse, les nouveaux permis de conduire, format carte de crédit, ont la mention "permis de conduire" dans les 4 langues nationales plus l'anglais. Le reste est constitué d'une photo du titulaire, de ses coordonnées (nom, prénom, date de naissance, lieu d'origine), du numéro de permis et des catégories pour lesquelles le permis est valable. Le truc intelligent c'est que les catégories sont imagées (moto, voiture, camion, remorque, etc...) ce qui le rend compréhensible dans n'importe quelle langue. Résultat, depuis que j'ai ce permis je n'ai jamais utilisé de permis international et je n'ai jamais eu de problème où que ce soit (Europe, USA, Asie), ni pour louer un véhicule ni lors de contrôles de police (fréquents!).
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Donc s'il y a les infos en anglais, pourquoi faire un permis international?
En Suisse, les nouveaux permis de conduire, format carte de crédit, ont la mention "permis de conduire" dans les 4 langues nationales plus l'anglais. Le reste est constitué d'une photo du titulaire, de ses coordonnées (nom, prénom, date de naissance, lieu d'origine), du numéro de permis et des catégories pour lesquelles le permis est valable. Le truc intelligent c'est que les catégories sont imagées (moto, voiture, camion, remorque, etc...) ce qui le rend compréhensible dans n'importe quelle langue. Résultat, depuis que j'ai ce permis je n'ai jamais utilisé de permis international et je n'ai jamais eu de problème où que ce soit (Europe, USA, Asie), ni pour louer un véhicule ni lors de contrôles de police (fréquents!).
Oui tu as raison dans ta logique, mais c'est ainsi vaut mieux pour nous français d'avoir le permis international .
Oui tu as raison dans ta logique, mais c'est ainsi vaut mieux pour nous français d'avoir le permis international .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Remarque, puisque c'est gratuit, pourquoi pas. C'est juste un peu plus de paperasse et un peu moins d'écologie...
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Sage decision😉
c'est plus simple et beaucoup moins risqué!!! surtout que ça serai dommage de se pourrir des vacances pour une histoire d'accident de la route ou tu sera responsable quoi qui l'arrive🤪!!!
Les transport sont tres bon marché meme pour l'avion (par rapport aux prix pratiqués en Europe)
De plus, pour l'avion, pas besoin de s'y prendre vraiment à l'avance!!! du jour au lendemain ou au pir surlendemain une agence de voyage te trouvera des billets pour la destination de ton choix!!!
A+ et bon voyage😎
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
c'est une regle internationale et réciproque ( un peu comme les visas de tourisme), ce n'est pas une question d'anglais ( notamment dans les pays a écriture cyrillique ou arabe )
de meme qu'un thai ne peut conduire en France avec un permis thai mais probablement avec un permis international ( souvent délivré par les Automobile club dans certains pays), tu est censé rouler avec un permis international, en Thailande a moins que comme beaucoup tu aies obtenu un permis thai
La regle est encore plus vraie pour les motos - surtout en France ou la législation francaise est plutot compliquée ( 3 permis suivant la cylindrée), sans parler des poids lourds, bus, camping car, véhicules utilitaires, voitures avec remorques, ...
les regles sont encore plus contraignantes dans d'autres pays comme au Vietnam. Et en Arabie Saoudite par ex, je doute que tu puisse louer une voiture sans chauffeur a l'aéroport !
de meme qu'un thai ne peut conduire en France avec un permis thai mais probablement avec un permis international ( souvent délivré par les Automobile club dans certains pays), tu est censé rouler avec un permis international, en Thailande a moins que comme beaucoup tu aies obtenu un permis thai
La regle est encore plus vraie pour les motos - surtout en France ou la législation francaise est plutot compliquée ( 3 permis suivant la cylindrée), sans parler des poids lourds, bus, camping car, véhicules utilitaires, voitures avec remorques, ...
les regles sont encore plus contraignantes dans d'autres pays comme au Vietnam. Et en Arabie Saoudite par ex, je doute que tu puisse louer une voiture sans chauffeur a l'aéroport !
Re-salut! Je ne vais pas faire ici un cours de droit international privé (ni publique d'ailleurs!) car ce n'est certainement pas le lieu mais je peux t'affirmer que ce n'est pas une règle internationale réciproque (ni pour les visas d'ailleurs). Comme je l'ai dit, un Suisse peut rouler en Thaïlande de manière tout à fait légale, pour autant qu'il soit munis du nouveau permis de conduire suisse pour la bonne catégorie évidemment, alors que l'inverse n'est pas vrai. Idem pour les visas. Un Suisse peut venir en Thaïlande 30 jours sans visa alors que l'inverse n'est pas vrai.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Re-salut! Je ne vais pas faire ici un cours de droit international privé (ni publique d'ailleurs!) car ce n'est certainement pas le lieu mais je peux t'affirmer que ce n'est pas une règle internationale réciproque (ni pour les visas d'ailleurs). Comme je l'ai dit, un Suisse peut rouler en Thaïlande de manière tout à fait légale, pour autant qu'il soit munis du nouveau permis de conduire suisse pour la bonne catégorie évidemment, alors que l'inverse n'est pas vrai. Idem pour les visas. Un Suisse peut venir en Thaïlande 30 jours sans visa alors que l'inverse n'est pas vrai.
Salut,
l'ambassade de France à Bkk m'a fait savoir qu'il était nécessaire d'avoir un permis international pour conduire en Thailande. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est du permis de conduire suisse, (que je n'ai plus depuis 2002) pour conduire en Thailande, mais je pense que si il est indispensable pour le permis français, il doit l'être également pour le suisse. A mon avis perso., c'est juste une dérogation à bien plaire des autorités thais sur le terrain (contrôle de police p.ex.) qui accepte les permis nationaux, le permis de conduire suisse comme français sont donc acceptés sans trop de problèmes. Moi j'ai fais le permis int. parce que c'était gratuit et que je me disais que comme cela aussi, ça pouvait m'éviter de me faire soutirer quelque argent lors d'un contrôle policier zélé sous ce pretexte, car je crois, à tort ou à raison, que selon la loi le permis international est le seul permis accepté pour des conducteurs étrangers.
Cependant dans les faits, sur le terrain, comme je l'ai dis, cela peut en être autrement, sinon ce serait un manque à gagner pour les loueurs de véhicule en Th. et aussi une grosse gêne pour les nombreux touristes. Par contre, en Suisse et en France, lorsqu'une personne est nouvellement établie dans le pays, elle doit prendre le permis de conduire de son pays d'adoption dans un délai d'un an. Pour certains détenteurs de permis nationaux figurant sur une liste précise de pays, il est demandé de passer soit la théorie seule, soit la théorie et la pratique, pour obtenir le permis de conduire du pays où l'on va résider. P.ex., pour un citoyen Thailandais désirant le permis de conduire suisse, il lui est demandé de passer juste la pratique.
Salut.
Salut,
l'ambassade de France à Bkk m'a fait savoir qu'il était nécessaire d'avoir un permis international pour conduire en Thailande. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est du permis de conduire suisse, (que je n'ai plus depuis 2002) pour conduire en Thailande, mais je pense que si il est indispensable pour le permis français, il doit l'être également pour le suisse. A mon avis perso., c'est juste une dérogation à bien plaire des autorités thais sur le terrain (contrôle de police p.ex.) qui accepte les permis nationaux, le permis de conduire suisse comme français sont donc acceptés sans trop de problèmes. Moi j'ai fais le permis int. parce que c'était gratuit et que je me disais que comme cela aussi, ça pouvait m'éviter de me faire soutirer quelque argent lors d'un contrôle policier zélé sous ce pretexte, car je crois, à tort ou à raison, que selon la loi le permis international est le seul permis accepté pour des conducteurs étrangers.
Cependant dans les faits, sur le terrain, comme je l'ai dis, cela peut en être autrement, sinon ce serait un manque à gagner pour les loueurs de véhicule en Th. et aussi une grosse gêne pour les nombreux touristes. Par contre, en Suisse et en France, lorsqu'une personne est nouvellement établie dans le pays, elle doit prendre le permis de conduire de son pays d'adoption dans un délai d'un an. Pour certains détenteurs de permis nationaux figurant sur une liste précise de pays, il est demandé de passer soit la théorie seule, soit la théorie et la pratique, pour obtenir le permis de conduire du pays où l'on va résider. P.ex., pour un citoyen Thailandais désirant le permis de conduire suisse, il lui est demandé de passer juste la pratique.
Salut.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
en Indonésie p.ex.c'est un pretexte pour soutirer de l'argent.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1060106;#1060106
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1060106;#1060106
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Plusieurs points me semblent devoir être précisés.
La Suisse ne fait pas partie de l'Europe, politiquement parlant j'entend. Ce qui est donc valable pour un français ne l'est pas forcément pour un Suisse et réciproquement. Un exemple, pour l'obtention d'un visa Schengen, il faut que le passeport d'un ressortissant Thaïlandais soit valide au minimum 6 mois après l'expiration de son visa alors que le délai n'est que de 3 mois pour le visa suisse. Je viens d'ailleurs de constater que ni les compagnies aériennes ni certains collaborateurs suisses de l'ambassade ne le savais ce qui est quand même problématique. On est en droit de penser que le personnel de l'ambassade de France est au courant des dispositions légales liées à la France mais à la vue de ce que je viens de vivre avec mon ambassade, je deviens un peu plus sceptique...
Il y a également une différence entre la Suisse et la France concernant le coût du permis de conduire international. S'il semble être gratuit en France, il coûte Frs 30.- en Suisse (environ 20 euros). Le Service des Automobiles suisse se contente de recommander le permis de conduire pour les pays hors de la communauté européenne (il faut bien en vendre!) et se garde bien de dire qu'il est obligatoire.
Ta dernière phrase démontre ce que je disais soit qu'il n'y a pas de règle internationale réciproque en la matière.
Il y a également une différence entre la Suisse et la France concernant le coût du permis de conduire international. S'il semble être gratuit en France, il coûte Frs 30.- en Suisse (environ 20 euros). Le Service des Automobiles suisse se contente de recommander le permis de conduire pour les pays hors de la communauté européenne (il faut bien en vendre!) et se garde bien de dire qu'il est obligatoire.
Ta dernière phrase démontre ce que je disais soit qu'il n'y a pas de règle internationale réciproque en la matière.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Bonsoir Similan
juste une question de vocabulaire ; j'aurais du dire quelque chose comme "bi-latéral" !
quand je parlait de "réciprocité", je ne voulais pas dire que la réciprocité devait etre faite dans les memes termes des 2 cotés - je voulais plutot dire que c'est une question de négociation et d'accord international
bonne soirée et "tout de bon" comme on dit par chez vous
juste une question de vocabulaire ; j'aurais du dire quelque chose comme "bi-latéral" !
quand je parlait de "réciprocité", je ne voulais pas dire que la réciprocité devait etre faite dans les memes termes des 2 cotés - je voulais plutot dire que c'est une question de négociation et d'accord international
bonne soirée et "tout de bon" comme on dit par chez vous
Plusieurs points me semblent devoir être précisés.
La Suisse ne fait pas partie de l'Europe, politiquement parlant j'entend. Ce qui est donc valable pour un français ne l'est pas forcément pour un Suisse et réciproquement. Un exemple, pour l'obtention d'un visa Schengen, il faut que le passeport d'un ressortissant Thaïlandais soit valide au minimum 6 mois après l'expiration de son visa alors que le délai n'est que de 3 mois pour le visa suisse. Je viens d'ailleurs de constater que ni les compagnies aériennes ni certains collaborateurs suisses de l'ambassade ne le savais ce qui est quand même problématique. On est en droit de penser que le personnel de l'ambassade de France est au courant des dispositions légales liées à la France mais à la vue de ce que je viens de vivre avec mon ambassade, je deviens un peu plus sceptique...
Il y a également une différence entre la Suisse et la France concernant le coût du permis de conduire international. S'il semble être gratuit en France, il coûte Frs 30.- en Suisse (environ 20 euros). Le Service des Automobiles suisse se contente de recommander le permis de conduire pour les pays hors de la communauté européenne (il faut bien en vendre!) et se garde bien de dire qu'il est obligatoire.
Ta dernière phrase démontre ce que je disais soit qu'il n'y a pas de règle internationale réciproque en la matière.
Je comprends bien tes propos Similan, je suis d'ailleurs franco-suisse. Tu évoques la différence qu'ont la Suisse et la France (Shengen) vis à vis des citoyens thailandais pour l'obtention des visas, moi je m'étonne que la Thailande ait une règle différente vis à vis des Suisses et des Français pour un permis de conduire. Je veux dire qu'il serait surprenant que les autorités thailandaises acceptent le permis de conduire national suisse (hors UE), et qu'ils refusent le permis de conduire national français (dans l'UE). Pour en avoir le coeur net, il faudrait demander aux autorités thai ce qu'il en est.
Voici ce que j'ai pu avoir sur le net qui renforçe mon post précédent. http://driving.information.in.th/driving-licence.html
concernant ma dernière phrase, si c'est celle ci : pour un citoyen Thailandais désirant le permis de conduire suisse, il lui est demandé de passer juste la pratique.
il y a une explication, c'est qu'il a été identifié par la Suisse (et dans d'autres aussi comme la France) que dans certains pays les permis de conduire s'achètent sans passer d'examens (ce qui semble être bien moins le cas en Th maintenant), ou que les passages d'examens sont "folkloriques". Donc, la Suisse a décidé que pour certains ressortissants étrangers venant s'établir en Suisse, il est nécessaire de repasser un examen, soit seulement la pratique, soit de repasser le tout comme si ils n'en avaient pas du tout. La Suisse a du estimer que les formalités de passage d'un permis de conduire en Th était suffisante pour n'accepter que la pratique, ce qui peut certainement s'expliquer par le fait qu'en Suisse on roule à droite.
En revanche, les formalités de passage d'examens pour l'obtention d'un permis de conduire en France et en Suisse étant très proches, avec des conditions d'obtentions tout de même sérieuse, il m'est difficile d'envisager que la Thailande ait un point de vue différent pour ces 2 pays, surtout que le permis international n'est soumis à aucun examen.
Je ne veux surtout pas me fâcher avec toi sur ce sujet, Similan, mais je pense que c'est juste.
A plus.
Il y a également une différence entre la Suisse et la France concernant le coût du permis de conduire international. S'il semble être gratuit en France, il coûte Frs 30.- en Suisse (environ 20 euros). Le Service des Automobiles suisse se contente de recommander le permis de conduire pour les pays hors de la communauté européenne (il faut bien en vendre!) et se garde bien de dire qu'il est obligatoire.
Ta dernière phrase démontre ce que je disais soit qu'il n'y a pas de règle internationale réciproque en la matière.
Je comprends bien tes propos Similan, je suis d'ailleurs franco-suisse. Tu évoques la différence qu'ont la Suisse et la France (Shengen) vis à vis des citoyens thailandais pour l'obtention des visas, moi je m'étonne que la Thailande ait une règle différente vis à vis des Suisses et des Français pour un permis de conduire. Je veux dire qu'il serait surprenant que les autorités thailandaises acceptent le permis de conduire national suisse (hors UE), et qu'ils refusent le permis de conduire national français (dans l'UE). Pour en avoir le coeur net, il faudrait demander aux autorités thai ce qu'il en est.
Voici ce que j'ai pu avoir sur le net qui renforçe mon post précédent. http://driving.information.in.th/driving-licence.html
concernant ma dernière phrase, si c'est celle ci : pour un citoyen Thailandais désirant le permis de conduire suisse, il lui est demandé de passer juste la pratique.
il y a une explication, c'est qu'il a été identifié par la Suisse (et dans d'autres aussi comme la France) que dans certains pays les permis de conduire s'achètent sans passer d'examens (ce qui semble être bien moins le cas en Th maintenant), ou que les passages d'examens sont "folkloriques". Donc, la Suisse a décidé que pour certains ressortissants étrangers venant s'établir en Suisse, il est nécessaire de repasser un examen, soit seulement la pratique, soit de repasser le tout comme si ils n'en avaient pas du tout. La Suisse a du estimer que les formalités de passage d'un permis de conduire en Th était suffisante pour n'accepter que la pratique, ce qui peut certainement s'expliquer par le fait qu'en Suisse on roule à droite.
En revanche, les formalités de passage d'examens pour l'obtention d'un permis de conduire en France et en Suisse étant très proches, avec des conditions d'obtentions tout de même sérieuse, il m'est difficile d'envisager que la Thailande ait un point de vue différent pour ces 2 pays, surtout que le permis international n'est soumis à aucun examen.
Je ne veux surtout pas me fâcher avec toi sur ce sujet, Similan, mais je pense que c'est juste.
A plus.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
ces 2 sites sérieux pour expats en Thailande disent également ceci :
http://www.thaivisa.com/320.0.html
http://www.thailand.alloexpat.com/thailand_driving_license/driving_license.php
http://www.thaivisa.com/320.0.html
http://www.thailand.alloexpat.com/thailand_driving_license/driving_license.php
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Si on parle d'accords bilatéraux alors d'accord mais ce n'est pas du tout la même chose qu'une règle internationale de réciprocité! Et dans le cadre des accords bilatéraux, ceux passés entre la France (voir la CE) et la Thaïlande ne sont pas obligatoirement les mêmes que ceux passés entre cette dernière et la Suisse. Les 2 principales raisons en sont:
1) la Suisse ne fait pas partie de la CE
2) la Suisse a une relation particulière est privilégiée dans plusieurs domaines en raison des liens qui lient le Roi à ce pays
On dit "tout de bon" par Chiang Mai? A Phuket pas vraiment...😛
On dit "tout de bon" par Chiang Mai? A Phuket pas vraiment...😛
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Effectivement, je suis d'accord avec toi, il serait logique que les mêmes règles s'appliquent aux ressortissants suisses qu'au ressortissants européens. Et pourtant...
Comme l'a dit très justement Lukmee, il s'agit d'accords bilatéraux entre 2 pays. Or la Suisse n'est pas membre de la CE et elle jouit d'une aura particulière en Thaïlande et il est dès lors parfaitement possible que les traités divergent de ceux passés entre la Thaïlande et la CE. A ma connaissance, un ressortissant Suisse muni du nouveau permis de conduire suisse (format carte de crédit) n'est pas dans l'obligation d'avoir un permis international pour rouler en Thaïlande. Mais j'admet que le droit thaïlandais n'était pas une de mes options lors de mes études...
Concernant les sites d'expats, je n'y donne aucun crédit lorsqu'il s'agit des relations Thaï-Suisse, les informations concernant en général les relations Thaï-CE.
Pour la 2ème partie de ton post, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi et c'est ce que je voulais montrer par rapport au post de Lukmee soit la non existence de règles internationales réciproque en la matière. Depuis nous nous sommes mis d'accord (je crois!) sur ce point, il s'agissait seulement d'une divergence sur le vocabulaire.
Ne t'inquiète pas, je ne suis pas du genre à me fâcher! 😛
Pour la 2ème partie de ton post, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi et c'est ce que je voulais montrer par rapport au post de Lukmee soit la non existence de règles internationales réciproque en la matière. Depuis nous nous sommes mis d'accord (je crois!) sur ce point, il s'agissait seulement d'une divergence sur le vocabulaire.
Ne t'inquiète pas, je ne suis pas du genre à me fâcher! 😛
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Bonjour,
De Malacca pour rejoindre Jerantut, est-ce préférable de retourner sur KL et d'y prendre un bus ou de prendre un bus pour Tampin et ensuite un train? Des retours sur le "train de la Jungle"? (durée, prix, confort...). Merci
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.