Après moult recherches et soumissions, je me suis finalement fait une raison (les safaris...c'est cher! lol) et ai opté pour un combiné de 11 jours/10 nuits en Octobre 2017 comme suit:
1) Arrivée à Dar Es Salam-- transit à Zanzibar à Jambiani-- 3 nuits de repos (petit hôtel pour se remettre tranquillement du jet lag
2) transfert à Stonetown- 2 nuits sur place pour visiter la ville
--Total Zanzibar: 5 nuits.
3) Pour la portion Safari, ca sera Seregenti (2 nuits), Tarangire (1 nuit), Cratère Ngorongon (1 nuit)
J'ai 2 propositions dans le même genre de prix avec le même genre de lodge:
- Soit partir au Seregenti (Zanzibar- vol Seregenti/Seronera) où je finis par le Tarangire 4 jours complets de safari
- Soit partir d'Arusha en commencant par le Tarangire et finissant par le Ngorongo, pour repartir d'Arusha
Retour à Dar es Salam.
Globalement dans les deux cas, j'ai environ 3/5h de route par jour (safari privé en couple avec un guide). Les deux compagnies sont Leopard Tours et Rangers Safari (via Evaneos).
Les deux semblent bien mais Evaneos met beaucoup de temps à répondre par courriel quand Leopard Tours me répond tjs dans les 24h. (ca compte non?)
Que pensez vous de la portion safari? J'ai eu d'autres échos d'agences qui me disaient que les distances étaient trop grandes entre les points d'interêt.
Une autre chose, nous venons du Canada où le vaccin de la fièvre jaune est en pénurie. Après plusieurs rencontres ici, on me dit que je ne pourrais pas me faire vacciner (au mieux, ca serait 1 dose qui me couvrirait pour 1 an seulement), mais que pour la Tanzanie c'est non indispensable. Or je n'ai pas le même écho quand je lis des sites francais...lol
Nous avons fait un long séjour en 2015 en faisant le Kénya, la Tanzanie et Zanzibar.
Tu visiter StoneTown le jour tout en retournant à Jambiani l'après-midi et profiter de la plage 5 jours au lieu de 3. C'est justement à Jambiani que nous étions lors de notre séjour à Zanzibar.
Reprendre l'avion (long flight) après un safari n'est pas l'idéal car tu n'as pas le temps de décanter ton expérience. Je ferais le safari d'abord et Zanzibar ensuite afin de savourer ton expérience en relaxant au soleil avant de reprendre l'avion.
Si tu as une option au même prix de Zanzibar vers Seronera ou Zanzibar vers Arusha, ne fait pas de boucle. Essai d'arriver par Zanzibar/Arusha et sortir par Seronera/Zanzibar ou vice et versa. Faire la boucle implique double passage dans la zone de conservation du Ngorongoro et c'est la plus onéreuse de tous. le prix d'un passage te permettrait probablement d'ajouter 1 jour supplémentaire de safari que j'ajouterais dans le Tarangire ou à regret nous n'y avons pas dormi. Un de nos coup de coeur.
Pour finir tu n'est qu'à 6 ou 7 heures de route du Selous Game Reserve de Dar Es Salam. C'est une option intéressante aussi...dans un autre voyage....car tu y prendra goût...de l'Afrique !
P.S. le vaccin de la fièvre jaune a été la première chose demandé en entrant en Tanzanie. Nous sommes passé par une frontière terrestre (Kenya-Tanzanie) mais c'est probablement la même chose par voie aérienne.
Voit mon carnet de voyage et consulte ceux des autres copains aussi tu retrouveras beaucoup d'infos.
En fait nous commençons par Zanzibar pour récupérer du jet lag car ca va être un long trajet (Montréal- Istanbul- Dar Es Salam..pfiou!).
On va faire une escale quelques jours au retour a Istanbul, donc on devrait pouvoir décanter un peu. ;-)
Intéréssant l'idée de faire Stonetown en restant l'après midi sur la plage. C'était à combien d'heures de routes de Jambiani tu dirais? Donc vous faisiez des visites le matin et passiez l'après midi à votre hôtel au bord de la plage?
Finalement, j'ai décidé d'opter pour éviter la boucle c'est à dire qu'on fera Zanzibar- Seregenti (Seronera) et retour de Arusha- Dar Es Salam.
Finalement, ca fera 2 nuits au Seregenti, 1 nuit dans le cratère (proche) et 1 nuit dans le Tarangire. Comme tu disais, je sens qu'on va y prendre goût a l'Afrique (mon conjoint a déjà fait la Namibie et en parle avec des coeurs dans les yeux...lol!)
Concernant la fièvre jaune, quand es tu partie?
Car je suis allée dans plusieurs cliniques de voyage ici à Montréal, ils ne font pas le vaccin (ou alors si je suis chanceuse, une dose qui me couvrirait pour 1 an). Par contre, il semble obligatoire pour le Kenya (d'où peut être le fait qu'ils te l'ont demandé). Avais tu eu une pleine dose? Enfin toutes infos là dessus pourrait m'aider, mais avec la pénurie... (les agences québécoises m'ont confirmé l'info, pas de vaccin pour la Tanzanie- voire déconseillé? lol)
Fièvre jaune : vaccin obligatoire en provenance d'un pays où la maladie est répertoriée. Ce n'est pas le cas du Canada.
Projet de safari : venir de si loin, rester si peu longtemps en safari animalier, quelle misère ! Vraiment, tu ne peux pas gratter une ou deux nuits, éventuellement en raccourcissant Zanzibar ? OK, je suis de parti pris (et pas de partie prix, les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs, s'pas ?), pour moi un safari, c'est d'abord la rencontre avec la faune.
Ton projet ne comporte pas forcément quatre jours complets de safari, car aller du Tarangire au milieu du Serengeti (Seronera), c'est déjà huit heures, une journée de trajet plus ou moins "cahotique" sinon chaotique... L'option avec le Tarangire en dernier s'imposerait donc. Shunter le cratère du Ngorongoro serait dommage mais reste aussi une option envisageable.
J'ai fait un safari une fois avec Leopard Tour comme réceptif de Vie Sauvage, je ne peux que me féliciter du sérieux dont ils ont fait preuve.
Bonjour, parti de décembre 2014 à février 2015 (voir carnet de voyage). Le carnet de vaccin nous a été demandé à l'entrée en Tanzanie (frontière terrestre dans les montagnes). Aéroport de Dar Es Salam...aucune idée !
De Dar Es Salam vers Zanzibar c'est 2h30 de traverse par la mer (gros ferry catamaran qui donne le mal de mer) et arrivée à StoneTown. de StoneTown à Jambiani c'est environ 1h - 1h30 de route dépendant du chauffeur😉.
Voici un lien pour l'obtention du vaccin de la fièvre jaune.
Ça me fait sourire de voir à quel point il semble que ce soit une expérience incroyable. Ca me donne encore plus hâte!! :))) (et c'est aussi pour ca que j'adore ce forum car à chaque destination, les gens te font voyager à l'avance et ca fait chaud au coeur).
J'avoue qu'on vient de loin... mais de Montréal, tout est loin! LOL
J'ai essayé de gratter en fait, au départ je voulais faire 5 nuits en safari. Mais là, niveau budget c'était la cata. Déjà j'ai énormément négocié (et je communique directement avec Leopard Tours ce qui me fait sauver pas mal d'argent d'après mes autres devis) et j'avoue aussi qu'étant difficile sur les logements, ca a été un compromis.
Mais j'espère bien que ce ne sera pas le dernier safari de ma vie! ;-)
Au total, j'aurais un bon 3 jours de safari complet, excluant les trajets. Or j'imagine que même si c'est très chaotique (et là, je vais prendre mes réserves de médic car j'ai un peu le mal des transports), ca permet aussi de voir les paysages/animaux en chemin.
Donc ca sera Seregenti- Cratère et on finit avec le Tarangire. Ca évite de perdre du temps à faire une boucle :)
Dites moi, je me demandais ce que vous pensiez de quelques petites choses:
1) je ne suis pas une grande experte de photos (je les fait habituellement avec mon Iphone...), ca vaut la peine d'investir dans un appareil photo spécial? Si oui, ca fonctionne avec les débutants certains modèles?
2) on me dit bagage souple de 15kg max/personne. J'avoue que ca va être chaud pour moi (bon j'ai quand même fait la Thailande avec un bagage de cabine aussi pendant 2 semaines mais on faisait laver notre linge tous les 3/4 jours pour pas cher). Comment vous avez fait? ;-) vetements spéciaux?
C'est intéressant car j'avais parlé du ferry pour Dar-Zanzibar, mais savais tu que les agences refusent de l'utiliser? (apparemment pas sécuritaire, pas "safe"). J'ai trouvé ça un peu bizarre mais bon ;-)
Je vais regarder ton carnet, il semble superbe. 50 jours... ça fait rêver :))
Oui c'est une expérience incroyable de voir les animaux dans leur environnement, tu vas adorer !!!.
Pour le vaccin, en 2010 nous sommes allés à la Clinique du Voyageur sur la rue Sherbrooke est. Les as-tu contactés ?.
Pour le logement en safari quels sont tes lodges ?. Honnêtement avec les plages et les îles que l'on a dans le sud ..... pas sûre que Zanzibar soit le top mais je suis comme Bernard ... Uniquement du safari !!!.
Pour la photo je te conseillerais un bridge ou un bon compact. Tu habites Montréal il y a de bons magasins photo : Lozeau, Royal photo, Caméra Simon, photo Service, Gosselin photo à Laval .... tu vois tu as le choix !! !. Et la aussi, pour le choix c'est une question de budget !!!.
Ça me fait sourire de voir à quel point il semble que ce soit une expérience incroyable. Ca me donne encore plus hâte!! :))) (et c'est aussi pour ca que j'adore ce forum car à chaque destination, les gens te font voyager à l'avance et ca fait chaud au coeur).
Tu vas te régaler et, j'espère, au delà de toutes tes attentes. Profite, avant c'est bon aussi. Et après ? Eh bien on y retourne (ou l'on essaie quelque autre destination africaine)
J'avoue qu'on vient de loin... mais de Montréal, tout est loin! LOL
La Belle Province est loin géographiquement mais tout près de notre cœur, sur le coup Voltaire était un idiot avec ses arpents de neige.
J'ai essayé de gratter en fait, au départ je voulais faire 5 nuits en safari. Mais là, niveau budget c'était la cata.
Déjà j'ai énormément négocié (et je communique directement avec Leopard Tours ce qui me fait sauver pas mal d'argent d'après mes autres devis) et j'avoue aussi qu'étant difficile sur les logements, ca a été un compromis.
Mais j'espère bien que ce ne sera pas le dernier safari de ma vie! ;-)
"Faute d'argent, c'est douleur non pareille", s'pas ? Mais bon, la vie est longue qui permettra d'autres safaris, le tout, c'est de mettre le pied à l'étrier !
Au total, j'aurais un bon 3 jours de safari complet, excluant les trajets. Or j'imagine que même si c'est très chaotique (et là, je vais prendre mes réserves de médic car j'ai un peu le mal des transports), ca permet aussi de voir les paysages/animaux en chemin
Rassure-toi, la route jusque à l'aire de conservation du Ngorongoro (NCA) est asphaltée et bonne. Il n'y a pas de virages incessants et de cahots sur cette partie; donc mal des transports plutôt peu prévisible. Les paysages, notamment dans l'Aire de conservation du Ngorongoro sont effectivement magnifiques. Mais, quand c'est possible (circulation, relief) les trajets de liaison se font à la vitesse maximum autorisée de 80 km/h (les moteurs des 4x4 sont bridés en conséquence), ce qui est peu propice à l'observation de la faune. Le mois d'octobre, par ailleurs excellent (moins de monde, faune concentrée) n'est pas propice à la rencontre des grands troupeaux de gnous, élands, zèbres que l'on peut voir parfois dans la NCA et dans le Sud du Serengeti en janvier-février. Pour autant, de bonnes surprises ne sont pas totalement exclues, la faune ne connaît pas bien les frontières administratives.
Donc ca sera Seregenti- Cratère et on finit avec le Tarangire. Ca évite de perdre du temps à faire une boucle :)
Sage décision
Dites moi, je me demandais ce que vous pensiez de quelques petites choses:
1) je ne suis pas une grande experte de photos (je les fait habituellement avec mon Iphone...), ca vaut la peine d'investir dans un appareil photo spécial? Si oui, ca fonctionne avec les débutants certains modèles?
Oui, cela vaut la peine, l'iPhone sera parfait pour les paysages (avec panoramiques !), les lodges, mais tout à fait insuffisant pour la faune.
Alors quel appareil photo pour un safari ?
Je te conseillerais assez un bridge, ce qui offre à mes yeux le meilleur rapport qualité-facilité d'emploi/prix. Si tu ne désires pas faire des tirages papiers de grande taille (A3 et supérieur), c'est acceptable, voire bon. Et pour une utilisation Internet, la moindre qualité optique est le plus souvent peu ou très peu visible. Le seul souci est la , mauvaise montée en ISO. Sinon que du bon : zoom avec une plage de focale hyper étendue (x20 et plus), focale la plus longue équivalente à du 500 ou 600 mm 24x36, compacité, poids réduit, coût pour du "haut de gamme" dans les 400-500 euros, mais il y a aussi du bon pour moins cher.
Évidemment, un hybride µ43 ou un reflex à objectif interchangeable donneront plus de possibilités à la prise de vue et en post-production, mais cela peut coûter le prix d'un safari, demande un apprentissage et est souvent moins pratique d'emploi...
Un compact te donnera de bonnes images dans certains cas mais sera souvent limité, notamment dans les longues focales. Avantage : prix faible à très faible si l'on choisit des modèles "dépassés" par les nouvelles nouveautés du jour.
Quel que soit l'appareil que tu choisis, je te conseille de l'acheter de suite et de t'en servir au maximum (un super truc : les photos en parc animalier) afin de bien l'avoir en main le jour J (ou plutôt le jour S).
Autre conseil : ne jamais faire voyager ton matériel-photo en soute, toujours en bagage cabine.
Derniers conseils photo-safari ici, ils sont d'autant plus excellents qu'ils ne sont pas de moi...
2) on me dit bagage souple de 15kg max/personne. J'avoue que ca va être chaud pour moi (bon j'ai quand même fait la Thailande avec un bagage de cabine aussi pendant 2 semaines mais on faisait laver notre linge tous les 3/4 jours pour pas cher). Comment vous avez fait? ;-) vetements spéciaux?
Le linge est lavable dans pratiquement tous les lodges pour pas grand chose ou juste un pourboire. Mais quand on reste une seule nuit sur place, ce n'est pas toujours praticable, faute de temps.
Poids limité des bagages en safari ? Une vieille antienne, non dépourvue de vérité mais à considérer avec une certaine réserve.
La limitation en poids vaut pour les trajets intérieurs en avion. En une bonne trentaine de vols intérieurs en safari, nous l'avons toujours très allègrement dépassée, nos valises de matériel photo pèsent à elles deux déjà un bon 24 kg. Nous avons dû payer un surcoût une seule fois, 20 $ pour près de 25 kg d'excédent de poids. En revanche, le sac souple est quasi indispensable pour les petits monomoteurs de 6 places (mais ce n'est sans doute pas ce type d'avion qui sera utilisé pour ton vol Arusha-Serengeti) où le rangement en soute peut être problématique (surtout si l'on voyage avec des affreux comme nous à fort excédent de bagages...).
J'avoue ne pas avoir tout compris (focales, ISO, ect...) trahissant bien mon coté débutante là dedans ;-)
Merci aussi pour la précision concernant les lodges, c'est vrai que niveau vêtements, on se demande surtout quand on sait qu'on doit prendre un sac limité. Et merci pour ta dernière photo, il semble en fait que nous utiliserons un Pilatus pour le vol Zanzibar- Seregenti...donc un tout petit avion. Ca m'a bien fait rire de voir les "cases" pour les sacs sur ta photo...tu m'étonnes qu'avec 25kg de matériel photo vous flinguez les limites haha!
Ce qui me fait aussi sourire ce sont les oeufs... ils sont arrivés intacts?! :P
Avec un peu de chance, on passera vers le Kilimanjaro en avion? Je n'ai aucune idée du trajet que fera l'avion Zanzibar- Seronera, mais parait il qu'on a une vue géniale. Mais j'imagine qu'il ne faut pas être craintif de l'avion haha (ce n'est pas mon cas, j'ai juste peur d'être "brassée" d'où mes medics de mal des transports).
J'ai vraiment hâte en tout cas, vos messages sont supers et me donnent vraiment le goût d'y être (même si on a tjs un peu peur aussi de l'inconnu lol)
Au fait, question à vous tous pour vos précédents voyages Tanzanie/Zanzibar: quid du traitement anti palu?
Vous en avez fait? (je sais qu'il n'y a pas consensus d'où mon questionnement sur vos expériences) :)
bonjour, je réponds très brièvement car pas eu le temps de tout lire : allez d'abord en Tanzanie ( ou Kenya/Tanzanie ) et ensuite Zanzibar. JAMAIS dans le sens inverse. Zanzibar, c'est pour le repos. A Zanzibar, prenez un bungalow bord de mer ( ils sont superbes et les patrons sont ... italiens ) et évitez Pemba. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi ils vous font aller à Jambani au lieu de StoneTown direct pour 5 jours. Vous aurez largement le temps de décompresser du jetlag, surtout si vous allez directement dans un bungalow bord de mer. Les îles là bas sont petites, de vrais confettis. Si vous ne partez que pour 11 jours, évitez des va et vient inutiles qui ne font que la richesse en commissions des travel agents
Ando
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination
Ici le site du gouvernement, Tanzanie, section santé, le vaccin de la fièvre jaune n'est en effet pas obligatoire si vous venez d'un pays non concerné par celle ci par contre de ce qu'ils en disent on peut vous l'exiger malgré tout.
Concernant notre expérience, notre carnet de vaccination et spécifiquement celui de la fièvre jaune a été l'une des premières choses demandées à l'arrivée à l'aéroport.
Pour le traitement antipalu il s'agit d'une zone 3 donc il est conseillé, c'est à vous de voir et de vous renseigner auprès d'un centre de vaccinations internationales. Nous l'avions pris et aucun souci particulier à signaler.
Je pense aussi qu'il fait mieux commencer par le safari et finir par Zanzibar et profiter du repos.
C'est notre voyage number 1, c'est extraordinaire!!!!
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March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
