Bonjour,
Je cherche a savoir comment fonctionne le systeme de sante mentale au Maroc. Je suis infirmier diplome en psychiatrie.
merci d'avance
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Comment fonctionne le système de santé mentale au Maroc?
by Sebbyy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
pas de malade mental au maroc
😏
et tu veux vivre avec un salaire d'infirmier?
et tu veux vivre avec un salaire d'infirmier?
* *** le systeme de sante mentale au Maroc****
confidentiel... les malades restent dans leur famille ou dans leur village dans la plupart des cas , tout comme les "ravis" ou les "fadas" dans nos campagnes , il y a quelques décades, ils ne s'en portaient d'ailleurs pas plus mal !.
confidentiel... les malades restent dans leur famille ou dans leur village dans la plupart des cas , tout comme les "ravis" ou les "fadas" dans nos campagnes , il y a quelques décades, ils ne s'en portaient d'ailleurs pas plus mal !.
Merci Raoul,
je crois que ta reponse est celle qui m'eclaire la plus..."confidentiel"...les "ravis ou les "fadas"....et les "dingues" ma foi soient des termes encore bien primitifs...comme tu l'as si bien demontre Raoul, la sante mentale est encore et toujours tres taboo au Maroc au ailleurs, elle fait peur et reste aux yeux des plus malins peut etre tres "contagieuse"....
merci pour les autres...
🙂
je crois que ta reponse est celle qui m'eclaire la plus..."confidentiel"...les "ravis ou les "fadas"....et les "dingues" ma foi soient des termes encore bien primitifs...comme tu l'as si bien demontre Raoul, la sante mentale est encore et toujours tres taboo au Maroc au ailleurs, elle fait peur et reste aux yeux des plus malins peut etre tres "contagieuse"....
merci pour les autres...
🙂
je voie bien l arogance de la sois disant culture
ici au maroc les dingue sont pas taboo comme toi qui est super inteligente le croie
il ont toujour fais partie de notre culture
on le garde a la maison il est accepter par l entourage
on as des asiles mais pour les plus dangereux
sinon il vie en societe
on as des valeurs humaine qu il me semble tu doit vraiment ignore
ca remplace les carence de nos dirigeants mal elue
LARBI
Bonjour
C'est peut-être une vision caricaturale d'une acceptation sociale de l'"anormalité".
J'ignore s'il y a un travail psychiatrique "de secteur" au Maroc, mais que le recours institutionnel ne soit pas la règle, c'est une position respectable.
Et puis , c'est probablement dans ces sociétés "traditionnelles" (aucun mépris dans ce terme , bien au contraire) que la nécessité de mise à l'écart du "fou" est le moins ressenti.
Cela peut aussi aboutir à une banalisation, une marginalisation dans le groupe social, et donc un défaut de prise en charge en particulier des situations de crise réversibles.
Je précise que je ne suis pas psychiatre et que les professionnels marocains seraient les plus adaptés pour vous répondre...
LARBI,
Tu t'emballes un peu je crois, mon message n'etait en aucun doute que pour te froisser....ma question etait toute simple et pour generer une discussion, le but de ce forum...n'est ce pas???
infirmier et d'une autre culture ne veut pas dire que l'on ne partage les valeurs humaines des autres.....et l'intelligence n'a rien a voir avec cette discussion....
neanmoins merci pour ta reponse....
Tu t'emballes un peu je crois, mon message n'etait en aucun doute que pour te froisser....ma question etait toute simple et pour generer une discussion, le but de ce forum...n'est ce pas???
infirmier et d'une autre culture ne veut pas dire que l'on ne partage les valeurs humaines des autres.....et l'intelligence n'a rien a voir avec cette discussion....
neanmoins merci pour ta reponse....
hey l'homme de Caen,
merci pour ta reponse....j'ai cru entendre qu'il y aurait quelque chose comme moins d'une vingtaine de psychiatres au maroc....pour dire qu'ils nous soient si bien utilent...😉...je pensais plutot a de l'aide dans les coins ruraux du Maroc...je pensais aux familles les plus demunies qui galerent avec un proche souffrant...souffrant (nevrose ou psychose....)
S
merci pour ta reponse....j'ai cru entendre qu'il y aurait quelque chose comme moins d'une vingtaine de psychiatres au maroc....pour dire qu'ils nous soient si bien utilent...😉...je pensais plutot a de l'aide dans les coins ruraux du Maroc...je pensais aux familles les plus demunies qui galerent avec un proche souffrant...souffrant (nevrose ou psychose....)
S
la sante mentale est encore et toujours tres taboo au Maroc au ailleurs, elle fait peur et reste aux yeux des plus malins peut etre tres "contagieuse"....
tu es sure que tu connais le maroc pour dire ces choses? 😏
tu es sure que tu connais le maroc pour dire ces choses? 😏
J'ai peur effectivement que les situations de crise que tu évoques ne soient pas ressenties localement comme du champ de la psychiatrie ...
Cela peut être un projet pour une ONG 🙂
pkoi alors parler de l'idée que les marocains la consideraient comme une maladie contagieuse!
pour eclaire ta lanterne
juste a casablanca
22 dr phsy
17 neuro pshy
mais il faut les payer pour les voir
et la majorité du peuple du plus beau royaume des merveille n as pas le rond
la classe populaire se retourne du cote des fkihs (traduire par charlatan )
car un bargeot est considéré comme habite par les djins (traduire par les démons)
riez pas
car a un moment en Europe on les bruler avec l accord de l eglise car il ete considere habite par le diable
certain pays avance certain font du sur place
c est la que reside les differance
LARBI
Merci de quoi ??
De t'autoriser à déformer mes propos ?? justement pas tabou !!
Les "fadas et ravis" font , eux partie de la vie d'une communauté, ils ne font peur à personne, ils ne sont pas , comme dans nos pays occidentaux, mis à l'écart dans des établissements spécialisés, aux mains de pseudos spécialistes, comme le sont aussi un peu nos "vieux".
Et si , les laisser dans leur élément avec leurs repères était une bonne thérapie, ne t'es tu donc jamais posé la question ?? C'est en tout cas mon avis.
De t'autoriser à déformer mes propos ?? justement pas tabou !!
Les "fadas et ravis" font , eux partie de la vie d'une communauté, ils ne font peur à personne, ils ne sont pas , comme dans nos pays occidentaux, mis à l'écart dans des établissements spécialisés, aux mains de pseudos spécialistes, comme le sont aussi un peu nos "vieux".
Et si , les laisser dans leur élément avec leurs repères était une bonne thérapie, ne t'es tu donc jamais posé la question ?? C'est en tout cas mon avis.
Hey Raoul,
Tu t'emballes un peu...je partage tes avis....Je ne suis pas partisant pour la psychiatrie institutionelle loin de la, mais tu as l'air de me m'imaginer comme l'alieniste en mal de froisser le peuple marocain, ce qui n'est pas le cas....
cette discussion est faite pour generer le debat, pas l'animosite envers les autres....
bien sur que je me pose des questions....le but de ce forum....
Tu t'emballes un peu...je partage tes avis....Je ne suis pas partisant pour la psychiatrie institutionelle loin de la, mais tu as l'air de me m'imaginer comme l'alieniste en mal de froisser le peuple marocain, ce qui n'est pas le cas....
cette discussion est faite pour generer le debat, pas l'animosite envers les autres....
bien sur que je me pose des questions....le but de ce forum....
Bonjour,
soyons clair ! Tu t'inscris sur un forum de voyages pour poser une question limite ++ hors sujet , alors qu'il doit bien exister des forums professionnels... Nous te faisons l'honneur d'y apporter des réponses simples , claires, issus de notre connaissance du pays. Comme tout psymachin qui se respecte, mais ne respecte pas l'avis des autres, tu déformes (à ton profit) les réponses de façon à créer une polémique. Il est bien normal qu'une mise au point en résulte.
Si tu veux un débat creux, qui te donne la vedette, dis le tout de suite, on ira jouer ailleurs.
soyons clair ! Tu t'inscris sur un forum de voyages pour poser une question limite ++ hors sujet , alors qu'il doit bien exister des forums professionnels... Nous te faisons l'honneur d'y apporter des réponses simples , claires, issus de notre connaissance du pays. Comme tout psymachin qui se respecte, mais ne respecte pas l'avis des autres, tu déformes (à ton profit) les réponses de façon à créer une polémique. Il est bien normal qu'une mise au point en résulte.
Si tu veux un débat creux, qui te donne la vedette, dis le tout de suite, on ira jouer ailleurs.
woaw!!!! cette discussion est complement barree!! Raoul, tu permets ....mais je pose les questions que je veux😛...tu vas voir ailleurs si tu ne peux t'empecher de jouer au rabatjoie....Khalas!!! c'est suppose etre fun et pour dialoguer ce forum!!....je suis interesse car un de mes patients est maghrebin et je suis interesse pas le maroc aussi bien sur (j'y vais bientot d'ailleurs)...je bosse avec un adolescent tunisien, et j'essaye de comprendre la culture maghrebine....j'ai deja compris beaucoup de choses...le sens de la famille est quelque chose de central c'est sur...(je commmence un travail de famille bientot....)
je m'excuse pour ne pas me faire comprendre clairement....le sujet a l'air chaud....pour moi il est quotidien....et la sante mentale est passionante....et les infirmier sont loin d'etre des "psymachin" Raoul...Com'on!! arretes le ridicule...nous sommes la branche paramedical la plus proche holistiquement du patient....je laisse la psy pour ceux qui portent ce titre....
Raoul, tu sembles un peu tendu....relaxes un peu....😉...va voir ailleurs si tu ne peux pas t'empecher ce genre de commentaires. Merci
je m'excuse pour ne pas me faire comprendre clairement....le sujet a l'air chaud....pour moi il est quotidien....et la sante mentale est passionante....et les infirmier sont loin d'etre des "psymachin" Raoul...Com'on!! arretes le ridicule...nous sommes la branche paramedical la plus proche holistiquement du patient....je laisse la psy pour ceux qui portent ce titre....
Raoul, tu sembles un peu tendu....relaxes un peu....😉...va voir ailleurs si tu ne peux pas t'empecher ce genre de commentaires. Merci
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In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Hi there,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
Hi,
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
Bonjour,
Je viens vous faire part d'une expérience fort désagréable concernant notre dernier séjour réservé chez Promoséjours et organisé par FTI.
Nous avons réservé un séjour de 8 jours/7 nuits en Egypte, du 8 au 15 juin. Le vol initialement prévu à été modifié une semaine avant départ pour décoller à 22h de Paris CDG. Finalement il décollera avec 1h de retard et une escale non mentionnée à Marsa Alam. Nous avons donc atterri à 4h du matin à Hurghada pour arriver à l’hôtel à 6h du matin. Nous avons donc passé la première nuit dans l'avion.
Pour le retour, surprise, le vol est avancé. Nous quittons donc l’hôtel à 22h30 le vendredi 14 pour décoller à 2h du matin et attérrir à 7h du matin à Paris CDG. Nous avons donc passé la dernière nuit dans l'avion.
Après un courrier de réclamation promoséjours / FTI ils m'ont répondu que le premier et le dernier jour peuvent être consacrés au transport (chose que je savais déjà) et que peu importe le nombre de nuits réservées, on est pas obligé de les passer dans l’hôtel, ça peut aussi être dans l'avion.
Je m'interroge à ce sujet.
Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas une loi qui protège le client dans ce genre de cas? Car si je fais le compte, le premier et une partie du deuxième jour ont été consacrés au transport, de même pour l'avant dernier et le dernier jour; Et j'ai payé 7 nuits pour un séjour qui n'en a duré que 5.
En tout cas je leur dis merci car grâce à eux et aux deux nuits blanches passées dans les transports, je rentre encore plus fatigué d'un voyage sensé m'apporter du repos!
Je mets aussi en garde ceux qui réservent par cette agence pour les visas en Egypte. A la réservation on m'a dit que le visa était inclus dans le prix, ensuite on m'a envoyé un mail pour me dire qu'il faudrait le payer sur place à 25€. une fois sur place on nous fait emprunter une file spéciale pour les clients FTI et là on nous fait payer 30€!
Bref ils sont doués pour vous faire profiter de vos vacances, en tout cas ils profitent bien de votre portefeuille!
Si quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce cas de figure et obtenu gain de cause, je suis toute ouïe.
Merci d'avance!
Je viens vous faire part d'une expérience fort désagréable concernant notre dernier séjour réservé chez Promoséjours et organisé par FTI.
Nous avons réservé un séjour de 8 jours/7 nuits en Egypte, du 8 au 15 juin. Le vol initialement prévu à été modifié une semaine avant départ pour décoller à 22h de Paris CDG. Finalement il décollera avec 1h de retard et une escale non mentionnée à Marsa Alam. Nous avons donc atterri à 4h du matin à Hurghada pour arriver à l’hôtel à 6h du matin. Nous avons donc passé la première nuit dans l'avion.
Pour le retour, surprise, le vol est avancé. Nous quittons donc l’hôtel à 22h30 le vendredi 14 pour décoller à 2h du matin et attérrir à 7h du matin à Paris CDG. Nous avons donc passé la dernière nuit dans l'avion.
Après un courrier de réclamation promoséjours / FTI ils m'ont répondu que le premier et le dernier jour peuvent être consacrés au transport (chose que je savais déjà) et que peu importe le nombre de nuits réservées, on est pas obligé de les passer dans l’hôtel, ça peut aussi être dans l'avion.
Je m'interroge à ce sujet.
Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas une loi qui protège le client dans ce genre de cas? Car si je fais le compte, le premier et une partie du deuxième jour ont été consacrés au transport, de même pour l'avant dernier et le dernier jour; Et j'ai payé 7 nuits pour un séjour qui n'en a duré que 5.
En tout cas je leur dis merci car grâce à eux et aux deux nuits blanches passées dans les transports, je rentre encore plus fatigué d'un voyage sensé m'apporter du repos!
Je mets aussi en garde ceux qui réservent par cette agence pour les visas en Egypte. A la réservation on m'a dit que le visa était inclus dans le prix, ensuite on m'a envoyé un mail pour me dire qu'il faudrait le payer sur place à 25€. une fois sur place on nous fait emprunter une file spéciale pour les clients FTI et là on nous fait payer 30€!
Bref ils sont doués pour vous faire profiter de vos vacances, en tout cas ils profitent bien de votre portefeuille!
Si quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce cas de figure et obtenu gain de cause, je suis toute ouïe.
Merci d'avance!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Just got back from Egypt a few days ago and couldn't exchange my 1900 Egyptian pounds at the airport. If anyone's interested, let me know!
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi there, I use video and photo editing software for my "work".
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi,
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Hello,
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48
Hi,
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal? It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland). It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks... There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal. That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is. The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai... They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive. Anyway... I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood... The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded. The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call! So, if you’re camping there, be careful... Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal? It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland). It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks... There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal. That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is. The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai... They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive. Anyway... I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood... The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded. The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call! So, if you’re camping there, be careful... Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
Hello,
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
Hello fellow travelers,
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.
Thanks in advance for your help!
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.
Thanks in advance for your help!