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Commerce autour de la culture du riz en Thaïlande
by Vel74
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Alors voilà, ces derniers temps je me posais une question qui peut paraître absurde mais je me lance😉:
Ma femme (une Thaïlandaise) et moi souhaiterions dans un futur plus ou moins lointain partir vivre en Thaïlande! Nous envisageons alors régulièrement différentes formes de business que nous pourrions tenir là bas et le suivant m'est récemment venu à l'idée:
ses parents étant possesseurs de pas mal de rizières dans le Nord de la Thaïlande pensez-vous qu'il serait envisageable de faire une véritable exploitation digne de ce nom dans la partie de la Thaïlande où ils vivent avec tous les moyens européens dont nous pouvons disposer en matière d'agriculture (équipement, ...). Il s'agirait ensuite de commercer directement avec les grands groupes de consommation européens (ou seulement français) sans passer par conséquent par divers intermédiaire.
Pensez-vous que cela soit envisageable (il ne s'agit que d'un germe dans mon esprit😊) et si cela est déjà monnaie courante?
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Salut Vel, les maitres du riz sont thai ou plutôt sino-thai (voir l'article passionnant posté par barbot sur le sujet), ca sera avec eux qu'il faudra négocier vu qu'ils ont un quasi monopole sur le marché du riz mondial.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
A mon avis, tu as une première question à te poser : veux-tu faire du business ou de l'agriculture ?
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200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
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Il s'agirait ensuite de commercer directement avec les grands groupes de consommation européens (ou seulement français) sans passer par conséquent par divers intermédiaire
Salut,
Regarde cet article, Les maîtres du riz, très intéressant à lire et te donner une idée .
Salut,
Regarde cet article, Les maîtres du riz, très intéressant à lire et te donner une idée .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
tu trouveras des sujets sur le Riz sur ce site web (excellent sur les matieres premieres !!! )
http://www.edito-matieres-premieres.fr/thematiques/soft/autres/
http://www.edito-matieres-premieres.fr/thematiques/soft/autres/
Je compte faire du business bien entendu! Je me vois mal patauger les pieds dans l'eau toute la journée🙂! Je serais donc plus là pour donner les moyens de faire réussir l'entrprise😉
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En tant qu'observateur, j'aurais tendance à dire que pouvoir court-circuiter la maffia du négoce serait peut-être la seule option "rentable".
En effet, le producteur est soumis à une "organisation" pour laquelle ses intérêts n'ont aucune importance ...
Par exemple, lors de l'explosion des cours l'an dernier, le "gang" des millers avait réussi à imposer une baisse des prix à la production (d'où manifs -en Thaïlande !) ...
Pour la machinerie, méfiez vous un peu tout de même, rien ne marche bien longtemps par ici, la maintenance est très lourde alors que la main d'oeuvre est si bon marché ...
Bon courage
En effet, le producteur est soumis à une "organisation" pour laquelle ses intérêts n'ont aucune importance ...
Par exemple, lors de l'explosion des cours l'an dernier, le "gang" des millers avait réussi à imposer une baisse des prix à la production (d'où manifs -en Thaïlande !) ...
Pour la machinerie, méfiez vous un peu tout de même, rien ne marche bien longtemps par ici, la maintenance est très lourde alors que la main d'oeuvre est si bon marché ...
Bon courage
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Il est vrai que le prix de la main d'œuvre baisse l'attractivité de l'investissement dans des machines à haute technologie. Néanmoins il doit bien avoir des moyens d'accroître la productivité en ayant des machines plus performantes que les quelques machines qu'ils possèdent (je ne m'y connaît pas grand chose mais celle pour retourner la terre ou alors pour l'irrigation). A part ça tu penses tout à fait comme moi en ce qui concerne de court circuiter les tarifs en vigueur lors de l'achat au producteur et cela d'autant plus si mon entreprise produit elle même pour revendre sans intermédiaire aux acheteurs européens. Après tout ceci n'est qu'une hypothèse, ne connaissant pas le système de fonctionnement du commerce du riz. Je nen ai vu qu'une infime parti par les parents de ma femme😊
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Après reste à pas se faire flinguer ce qui serait vite fait en Thaïlande🤪 ! Je me construirait donc un bunker😛
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Je n'ai pas parlé des conséquences possibles lorsque l'on tente de "bypasser" une maffia bien installée ...
Une vie humaine ne coûte pas cher par ici, une simple mob' avec le tireur assis à l'arrière, c'est très efficace et couramment employé par "les familles" 😠
Une vie humaine ne coûte pas cher par ici, une simple mob' avec le tireur assis à l'arrière, c'est très efficace et couramment employé par "les familles" 😠
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Effectivement au vu des news que lit ma femme tous les jours et dont j'ai le droit au récit détaillé chaque fois😄 (le gars qui faisait trop de bruit ce qui n'a pas plus au voisin, le gars qui a insulté la souer du frère du bidule et qui y est passé, ....)
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Effectivement au vu des news que lit ma femme tous les jours et dont j'ai le droit au récit détaillé chaque fois😄 (le gars qui faisait trop de bruit ce qui n'a pas plus au voisin, le gars qui a insulté la souer du frère du bidule et qui y est passé, ....)
Cà me rappelle des trucs !
6 mois après que je me suis installé ici, le "promoteur" a placé les poubelles de la résidence à 10m de chez moi, en face sur la ruelle !
Aussitôt j'ai -à la française- essayé de racoler mes voisins (thaïlandais) en leur disant que si on râlait tous ensemble, les poubelles iraient ailleurs ...
On m'a regardé comme un fou, ici ce genre de problème se règle avec des sourires ou à l'aide d'un tueur à gages 😕
Cà me rappelle des trucs !
6 mois après que je me suis installé ici, le "promoteur" a placé les poubelles de la résidence à 10m de chez moi, en face sur la ruelle !
Aussitôt j'ai -à la française- essayé de racoler mes voisins (thaïlandais) en leur disant que si on râlait tous ensemble, les poubelles iraient ailleurs ...
On m'a regardé comme un fou, ici ce genre de problème se règle avec des sourires ou à l'aide d'un tueur à gages 😕
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Effectivement moi qui est pour habitude d'avoir le doigt d'honneur un peu leste en voiture ou n'importe où il faudra que je me ravise si jamais je vais vivre un jour en Thaïlande😄
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Effectivement moi qui est pour habitude d'avoir le doigt d'honneur un peu leste en voiture ou n'importe où il faudra que je me ravise si jamais je vais vivre un jour en Thaïlande😄
Cà déjà aux US c'est très très dangereux ...
Un copain (installé à SanJosé) m'a dit "gaffe, ils conduisent comme des ploucs mais ils sont tous armés ..."
😎😎😎😎
Cà déjà aux US c'est très très dangereux ...
Un copain (installé à SanJosé) m'a dit "gaffe, ils conduisent comme des ploucs mais ils sont tous armés ..."
😎😎😎😎
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Au pire je me ferais amputé🤪😊😏
Bon là on s'éloigne!
Si quelqu'un à d'autres bonnes idées à me faire parvenir je suis tout ouïe😛
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Néanmoins il doit bien avoir des moyens d'accroître la productivité en ayant des machines plus performantes que les quelques machines qu'ils possèdent court circuiter les tarifs en vigueur lors de l'achat au producteur et cela d'autant plus si mon entreprise produit elle même pour revendre sans intermédiaire aux acheteurs européens
bonjour, ta demarche part d un bon sentiment, sans vouloir casser tes reves, pour tes chances de reussite, je te repondrais: aucunes
circuit du negoce en place depuis des millenaires, il y aura 1000 facons de te faire renoncer, la technologie ? j ai vu en presentation a la vente chez les vendeurs de tracteurs de riziere, des machines pour repiquer le riz, jamais vu en action, rentabilite ? pourquoi tant d enfants d Issan travaillent a BKK ou ailleurs pour des salaires de misere si la culture etait rentable ? ecoute du morlam, le theme revenant le + souvent est la difficulte de survivre dans les rizieres.
poutant Dieu sait qu elles sont attachantes les rizieres,
qq photos du cycle du riz, ici:
http://album-photo.geo.fr/ap/album/11523/

bonjour, ta demarche part d un bon sentiment, sans vouloir casser tes reves, pour tes chances de reussite, je te repondrais: aucunes
circuit du negoce en place depuis des millenaires, il y aura 1000 facons de te faire renoncer, la technologie ? j ai vu en presentation a la vente chez les vendeurs de tracteurs de riziere, des machines pour repiquer le riz, jamais vu en action, rentabilite ? pourquoi tant d enfants d Issan travaillent a BKK ou ailleurs pour des salaires de misere si la culture etait rentable ? ecoute du morlam, le theme revenant le + souvent est la difficulte de survivre dans les rizieres.
poutant Dieu sait qu elles sont attachantes les rizieres,
qq photos du cycle du riz, ici:
http://album-photo.geo.fr/ap/album/11523/

+1.... Fait de l'hévéa plutôt.....: peu ou pas de machines, boulot de nuit....5 ans d'attente et d'après ce qui se dit : Très bonne rentabilité....
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
circuit du negoce en place depuis des millenaires,
Splendides photos ...
Ma femme, du côté de sa mère, a de la famille dans la région de ThungSong ... ("grenier à riz" du Sud).
Elle a "fait" les rizières étant petite et il ne faut pas lui en parler 🏴☠️
Motif : les sangsues ... beurk de chez beurk 😠
Splendides photos ...
Ma femme, du côté de sa mère, a de la famille dans la région de ThungSong ... ("grenier à riz" du Sud).
Elle a "fait" les rizières étant petite et il ne faut pas lui en parler 🏴☠️
Motif : les sangsues ... beurk de chez beurk 😠
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Comme ça c'est dit😉 et puis ce n'est pas vraiment un rêve, plus une question que je me posais🙂.
Si ça ne tenait qu'à moi je resterai en France toute ma vie car je m'y plaît bien😛
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A la rigueur, tu finances une moissonneuse batteuse pour le riz : environ 700.000 Bahts............Et tu donnes comme mission à la famille de la louer pendant la saison .....😉
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
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About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Hi,
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^