Deux mois et trois jours en Thaïlande sans visa
by Sebgarges
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour je part lundi 12 au soir pour bangkok pour un duree de 2 mois et 3 jours, le probleme c'est que je n 'ai pas fait mon visa a temps . comment faire pour avoir un visa de 60 jours .
merci.
bangkok pour un duree de 2 mois et 3 jours, le probleme c'est que je n 'ai pas fait mon visa a temps
Bonjour ,
Selon avec quelle compagnie tu vas partir tu risques de ne pas embarquer à Paris , si ça passe tant mieux . Une fois arriver à Bangkok tu auras droit à 30 jours , ensuite il te faudra sortir du pays par avion soit Laos ou Cambodge tu y reste quelques jours par exemple 4 ou 5 jours et au retour toujours par avion tu auras de nouveau 30 jours , pourquoi par avion ? par voie aérienne 30 jours et par voie terrestre 15 jours , et pourquoi 4 ou 5 jours afin de boucler tes 2 mois et 3 jours . Maintenant reste pour ton départ sans visa de Paris , avec quelle compagnie tu pars ?
Bonjour ,
Selon avec quelle compagnie tu vas partir tu risques de ne pas embarquer à Paris , si ça passe tant mieux . Une fois arriver à Bangkok tu auras droit à 30 jours , ensuite il te faudra sortir du pays par avion soit Laos ou Cambodge tu y reste quelques jours par exemple 4 ou 5 jours et au retour toujours par avion tu auras de nouveau 30 jours , pourquoi par avion ? par voie aérienne 30 jours et par voie terrestre 15 jours , et pourquoi 4 ou 5 jours afin de boucler tes 2 mois et 3 jours . Maintenant reste pour ton départ sans visa de Paris , avec quelle compagnie tu pars ?
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
bonjour
oui comme le dit si bien barbot cela va etre assez dure, d'antant plus que ton sejour depasse les 60 jours sur place et sans que tu possede un visa
des fois si ton sejours fait 32 33 jours peut etre mais la plus de 60 jours
oui comme le dit si bien barbot cela va etre assez dure, d'antant plus que ton sejour depasse les 60 jours sur place et sans que tu possede un visa
des fois si ton sejours fait 32 33 jours peut etre mais la plus de 60 jours
aroythai
je me demande d'ou vient la legende que les compagnies refoulent pour les visas, j'ai jamais lu que qulqu'un a ete dans ce cas, tout mes vols avec plusieurs compagnie europeenes, arabe ou meme thai, aucune ne m'a jamais rien demander a propos de mes visa, jamais ete en overstay pour autant.
pour le post initial pas bien de pas avoir preparer a temps ton visa, ca va etre plus chiant et plus chere )
le mieux est de faire un tour dans un pays a coter meler l'utile a l'agreable , comme ca tu as 30jours en arrivant a bangkok, tu sors vers la fin tu passes 4jours ou plus , ailleurs et tu reviens par avion pour 30jours suplementaire
pour le post initial pas bien de pas avoir preparer a temps ton visa, ca va etre plus chiant et plus chere )
le mieux est de faire un tour dans un pays a coter meler l'utile a l'agreable , comme ca tu as 30jours en arrivant a bangkok, tu sors vers la fin tu passes 4jours ou plus , ailleurs et tu reviens par avion pour 30jours suplementaire
Sawadee krap,
Elles refoulent surtout pour les aller simples, pas pour des questions de visa. Il y a 4 ans Emirat à Nice m’a demandé mon billet retour sur la France, Au bout d’un moment l’hôtesse de guichet a fini par comprendre qu’en tant qu’expatrié c’était mon retour en Thaïlande et non l’aller.
Il me semble qu’en cas de blocage à l’arrivée, si le voyageur est refoulé par l’immigration, sans billet de retour, c’est la compagnie qui doit en assumer les frais.
Elles refoulent surtout pour les aller simples, pas pour des questions de visa. Il y a 4 ans Emirat à Nice m’a demandé mon billet retour sur la France, Au bout d’un moment l’hôtesse de guichet a fini par comprendre qu’en tant qu’expatrié c’était mon retour en Thaïlande et non l’aller.
Il me semble qu’en cas de blocage à l’arrivée, si le voyageur est refoulé par l’immigration, sans billet de retour, c’est la compagnie qui doit en assumer les frais.
Sawadee krap,
Au bout d’un moment l’hôtesse de guichet a fini par comprendre qu’en tant qu’expatrié c’était mon retour en Thaïlande et non l’aller.
mon cas aussi depuis peu , j'ai mon retour sur bkk , mais aucune compagnie ne m'a poser la question ou regarder les pages de mon passport pour voir les visas.
au debus j'avais un aller gva-bkk le retour quasiment un an apres pour pouvoir le changer une fois quand je voulais, vu que je revenais en suisse quelques semaines 1 a 2 fois par an sans avoir de date predefini , avec un visa touriste donc si on ecoute le forum j'aurais du etre refouler quasiment a chaque fois.. mais pareil jamais eu une question
Au bout d’un moment l’hôtesse de guichet a fini par comprendre qu’en tant qu’expatrié c’était mon retour en Thaïlande et non l’aller.
mon cas aussi depuis peu , j'ai mon retour sur bkk , mais aucune compagnie ne m'a poser la question ou regarder les pages de mon passport pour voir les visas.
au debus j'avais un aller gva-bkk le retour quasiment un an apres pour pouvoir le changer une fois quand je voulais, vu que je revenais en suisse quelques semaines 1 a 2 fois par an sans avoir de date predefini , avec un visa touriste donc si on ecoute le forum j'aurais du etre refouler quasiment a chaque fois.. mais pareil jamais eu une question
bonjour
pour rappel les francais on droit a 30 jours sur place en arrivant en thailande !!!
si on prevois de rester au dela en thailande ; on prend les precautions necessaires, c'est dire un visa
voila c'est tout
pour rappel les francais on droit a 30 jours sur place en arrivant en thailande !!!
si on prevois de rester au dela en thailande ; on prend les precautions necessaires, c'est dire un visa
voila c'est tout
aroythai
Bonjour Asiawis ,
J'ai bien dit selon les compagnies , par exemple avec Gulf Air ça passe pas là c'est radical d'ailleurs par le passé un membre de Vf (je me souviens plus de son pseudo ) est rester clouer sur Paris , il avait beau expliquer qu'il allait vers d'autres pays limitrophes de la Thaïlande rien à faire . Avec la Thaï Airways par exemple pas de problème et bien sur d'autres compagnies , mais certaines sont radical .
J'ai bien dit selon les compagnies , par exemple avec Gulf Air ça passe pas là c'est radical d'ailleurs par le passé un membre de Vf (je me souviens plus de son pseudo ) est rester clouer sur Paris , il avait beau expliquer qu'il allait vers d'autres pays limitrophes de la Thaïlande rien à faire . Avec la Thaï Airways par exemple pas de problème et bien sur d'autres compagnies , mais certaines sont radical .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Il me semble qu’en cas de blocage à l’arrivée, si le voyageur est refoulé par l’immigration,
sans billet de retour, c’est la compagnie qui doit en assumer les frais.
Sawadee krap 😉
C'est exactement ça , c'est la compagnie doit assumer les frais de retour donc ils ont des consignes . Mais bon perso à l'arrivée sur Bangkok jamais on m'a demander le billet retour .
Sawadee krap 😉
C'est exactement ça , c'est la compagnie doit assumer les frais de retour donc ils ont des consignes . Mais bon perso à l'arrivée sur Bangkok jamais on m'a demander le billet retour .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Il me semble qu’en cas de blocage à l’arrivée, si le voyageur est refoulé par l’immigration,
sans billet de retour, c’est la compagnie qui doit en assumer les frais.
Sawadee krap 😉
C'est exactement ça , c'est la compagnie doit assumer les frais de retour donc ils ont des consignes . Mais bon perso à l'arrivée sur Bangkok jamais on m'a demander le billet retour .
l'immigration aura le sourire si tu es en overstay, un gros overstay encore plus....mais la pour la personne ses vacances risque de devenir authentique, et sourtout inoubliable... ;p
parcontre pour obtenir un visa a l'ambassade thai il faut tes billet aller retour.. meme a la demande d'un visa "O", en plus des fomaliters habituels , ils m'ont demander le billet aller )
Sawadee krap 😉
C'est exactement ça , c'est la compagnie doit assumer les frais de retour donc ils ont des consignes . Mais bon perso à l'arrivée sur Bangkok jamais on m'a demander le billet retour .
l'immigration aura le sourire si tu es en overstay, un gros overstay encore plus....mais la pour la personne ses vacances risque de devenir authentique, et sourtout inoubliable... ;p
parcontre pour obtenir un visa a l'ambassade thai il faut tes billet aller retour.. meme a la demande d'un visa "O", en plus des fomaliters habituels , ils m'ont demander le billet aller )
bonjour
oui, si tu a la possibilité de decaler ton vol aller du quelques jours le temps necessaire de faire faire un visa de 60 jours
oui, si tu a la possibilité de decaler ton vol aller du quelques jours le temps necessaire de faire faire un visa de 60 jours
aroythai
Bonjour Asiawis,
Par contre pas besoin de retour avec le visa O?😊
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je me demande d'ou vient la legende que les compagnies refoulent pour les visas, j'ai jamais lu que qulqu'un a ete dans ce cas, tout mes vols avec plusieurs compagnie europeenes, arabe ou meme thai, aucune ne m'a jamais rien demander a propos de mes visa, jamais ete en overstay pour autant.
pour le post initial pas bien de pas avoir preparer a temps ton visa, ca va etre plus chiant et plus chere )
le mieux est de faire un tour dans un pays a coter meler l'utile a l'agreable , comme ca tu as 30jours en arrivant a bangkok, tu sors vers la fin tu passes 4jours ou plus , ailleurs et tu reviens par avion pour 30jours suplementaire
La Thaï à Paris vérifie systématiquement le visa avec un vol retour supérieur à 30 jours. Étant toujours en règle, je n'ai jamais eu de problème, mais je vous assure qu'ils checkent...
pour le post initial pas bien de pas avoir preparer a temps ton visa, ca va etre plus chiant et plus chere )
le mieux est de faire un tour dans un pays a coter meler l'utile a l'agreable , comme ca tu as 30jours en arrivant a bangkok, tu sors vers la fin tu passes 4jours ou plus , ailleurs et tu reviens par avion pour 30jours suplementaire
La Thaï à Paris vérifie systématiquement le visa avec un vol retour supérieur à 30 jours. Étant toujours en règle, je n'ai jamais eu de problème, mais je vous assure qu'ils checkent...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
L'année dernière, j'avais un aller simple pour Bangkok et pas de visa. A Roissy, Emirates m'a demandé une preuve de sortie de Thaïlande avant le 30ème jour. J'ai pu présenter ma réservation pour le Cambodge.
Il suffit donc d'avoir une réservation (par exemple Air Asia) pas chère, quitte à l'annuler ensuite.
uniquement des voyageurs en partance de France ? je precise toujours ete au depart de Geneve pour bkk
pour les demande de visa au ambassade , je book une option au travers de mon agence de voyage en thailande, billet que je paie pas, mon agent me l'annule ensuite sans frais.. bon j'ai un rapport amicale et je passe que par lui pour l'ensemble de mes vols meme certain hotel
pour les demande de visa au ambassade , je book une option au travers de mon agence de voyage en thailande, billet que je paie pas, mon agent me l'annule ensuite sans frais.. bon j'ai un rapport amicale et je passe que par lui pour l'ensemble de mes vols meme certain hotel
Je pense que la règle s'applique en fonction de la compagnie et non du pays de départ.
j'ai pourtant prit la thai aussi ... enfin prenez un ticket de sortie pour vous assurez d'embarquer, vous n'avez pas la chance d'avoir ma belle gueule pour eviter le controle a l'embarquement ;p
j'ai pourtant prit la thai aussi ... enfin prenez un ticket de sortie pour vous assurez d'embarquer, vous n'avez pas la chance d'avoir ma belle gueule pour eviter le controle a l'embarquement ;p
bonjour Vel74 ,
au consulat de Geneve, ils m'ont demander que l'aller, vu que le visa O est fait pour rester de facon indeterminer dans le royaume.. pour une fois qu' une administration reagit logiquement )
Oui on me m'a demandé que l'aller également à Paris...j'avais plus peur pour ce qui concerne la compagnie aérienne étant donné qu'il n'y a pas grand chose d'écrit sur ce visa (pas de durée, ...)😊
au consulat de Geneve, ils m'ont demander que l'aller, vu que le visa O est fait pour rester de facon indeterminer dans le royaume.. pour une fois qu' une administration reagit logiquement )
Oui on me m'a demandé que l'aller également à Paris...j'avais plus peur pour ce qui concerne la compagnie aérienne étant donné qu'il n'y a pas grand chose d'écrit sur ce visa (pas de durée, ...)😊
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Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.







