Par avance, merci bcp pour votre aide !
Californie avec des enfants en camping-car
by Valabelange
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous! je découvre ce forum qui est une mine d'informations pour élaborer notre séjour au mois de juillet en californie ! nous avons une préférence pour le camping-car, ns sommes deux adultes, deux ado et un enfant de 5 ans. les distances ns font un peu peur, alors je vous soumets notre itinéraire en espérant que vs voudrez bien le commenter pour ns aider à conclure pour le mieux !! il nous reste 2-3 jours à rajouter, pour couper davantage les étapes, ou pour rester davantage là où c'est nécessaire, pouvez-vous ns conseiller sur ces attributions supplémentaires ?
De plus, nous aimerions connaître pour chaque étape, les campings que vs nous conseillez, ou les étapes pour lesquelles ns pouvons zapper la réservation, et envisager une nuit en camping sauvage.
J1 los angeles
J2 J3 Los angeles vers Gd canyon :où pouvons-ns faire une halte pour la nuit à mi-parcours, et que cela soit interessant ?
J4 "halte à mi-parcours " - Gd canyon
J5 Monument Valley
J6 J7Page
J8 Bryce Canyon
J9 J10 Zion
J11 Las Vegas
J12 Las Vegas vers Yosemite : pourrons-ns passer par la vallée de la mort, ou bien faut-il faire le détour et passer par Baskerville (c'est ce que proposent des circuits organisés), ou vaut-il mieux rendre le camping-car et aller vers Yosémite en avion ?ds ce cas, fau-il attérir à San Francisco ou un autre aéroport plus proche de Yosemite ?
J13 Yosemite
J14 Yosemite
J15 Yosemite San Francisco
J16 J 17 San francisco
J18San francisco et retour en France
Par avance, merci bcp pour votre aide !
Par avance, merci bcp pour votre aide !
famille davignon
Bonjour,
Attention au nuit en camping sauvage elles sont à priori interdites sauf si vous demandez l'autorisation, soit au proprio si c'est privé, soit aux rangers.
Votre circuit me semble bien , pas trop speed , Vous n'aurez pas l'autorisation du loueur de passer pas Death Valley, donc c'est soit Bakersfield, soit Beatty. L'avantage de Beatty est de vous faire traverser Yosemite , et ainsi vous donner la possibilité d'aller voir le monolake, Bodie, et faire la Tioga Pass, qui est tres belle.
Si tu as des jours, j'en rajouterais au moins 1 à San Francisco
Je ne vois pas d'etape à rallonger, d'autant qu'avec un enfant de 5 ans , j'imagine que vous ne ferez pas de tres grandes randos. Une etape supplementaire pourrait etre Mesa Verde ou le Canyon de Chelly, pour aller voir les habitations troglodytes.
Beau voyage en perspective.
Attention au nuit en camping sauvage elles sont à priori interdites sauf si vous demandez l'autorisation, soit au proprio si c'est privé, soit aux rangers.
Votre circuit me semble bien , pas trop speed , Vous n'aurez pas l'autorisation du loueur de passer pas Death Valley, donc c'est soit Bakersfield, soit Beatty. L'avantage de Beatty est de vous faire traverser Yosemite , et ainsi vous donner la possibilité d'aller voir le monolake, Bodie, et faire la Tioga Pass, qui est tres belle.
Si tu as des jours, j'en rajouterais au moins 1 à San Francisco
Je ne vois pas d'etape à rallonger, d'autant qu'avec un enfant de 5 ans , j'imagine que vous ne ferez pas de tres grandes randos. Une etape supplementaire pourrait etre Mesa Verde ou le Canyon de Chelly, pour aller voir les habitations troglodytes.
Beau voyage en perspective.
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
Nous avons fait plus ou moins le même parcours en août 2007 et nous avons compléter notre parcours en début juillet 2009, les deux voyages en motorhome et aussi avec des ados !
Je crois que je peux vous aider pour trouver de campings intéressants ... et des endroits à visiter ...
Vous avez choisi Los Angeles pour les parcs d'animation ? car franchement la ville n'est pas vraiment intéressante sauf pour les parcs !
Sinon je suis en train de réaliser un blog avec notre voyage, mais il n'est pas fini ...mais
De Los Angeles au grand canyon, il y a pratiquement 800 km ... donc il vaut mieux faire une ou deux étapes, cela depend à quelle heures vous voulez quitter Los Angeles.
Nous avons quitter Los Angles vers 15 h. et on est allé loger dans Joshua tree park ... Tèrs bel endroit dans le désert Le lendemain on a visité le parc Joshua tree park et on est allé jusque Laughlin dans un camping d'un casino ... donc on a profiter des infractures du casino ... buffet bon marché, piscine .... Lendemain, direction grand canyon, .... en passant par un portion de la route 66 à Seilgnam.
Pour les campings Près de Zion, il y a sand Hollow, c 'est super ... un plan d'eau tout est bien ! Près de Bryce, il y a Kodachrome bassin, joli camping dans dans un cuvette, et très joli petit parc !
Voici l'adresse de mon blog, mais il n'est pas terminé ...
Si vous désirez que je vous donne mon book ou des autres renseignements ... pas de problèmes !
A+
Je crois que je peux vous aider pour trouver de campings intéressants ... et des endroits à visiter ...
Vous avez choisi Los Angeles pour les parcs d'animation ? car franchement la ville n'est pas vraiment intéressante sauf pour les parcs !
Sinon je suis en train de réaliser un blog avec notre voyage, mais il n'est pas fini ...mais
De Los Angeles au grand canyon, il y a pratiquement 800 km ... donc il vaut mieux faire une ou deux étapes, cela depend à quelle heures vous voulez quitter Los Angeles.
Nous avons quitter Los Angles vers 15 h. et on est allé loger dans Joshua tree park ... Tèrs bel endroit dans le désert Le lendemain on a visité le parc Joshua tree park et on est allé jusque Laughlin dans un camping d'un casino ... donc on a profiter des infractures du casino ... buffet bon marché, piscine .... Lendemain, direction grand canyon, .... en passant par un portion de la route 66 à Seilgnam.
Pour les campings Près de Zion, il y a sand Hollow, c 'est super ... un plan d'eau tout est bien ! Près de Bryce, il y a Kodachrome bassin, joli camping dans dans un cuvette, et très joli petit parc !
Voici l'adresse de mon blog, mais il n'est pas terminé ...
Si vous désirez que je vous donne mon book ou des autres renseignements ... pas de problèmes !
A+
A+
merci pour vos réponses ! depuis hier, ns avons modifié notre itinéraire car l'avion est nettement moins cher si la ville d'arrivée et celle du départ sont les mêmes. Ns avons donc choisi d'arriver et de repartir par Los Angeles, mais comme ma dernière étape sera San Francisco, ns prendrons un vol intérieur pour rejoindre LA. (Sauf si notre agence de voyage arrive à faire un miracle pour nous permettre d'arriver à LA et repartir de SFO)
Concernant le camping-car et son interdiction ds la vallée de la mort, ns hésitons encore entre prendre un vol intérieur pour arriver à SFrancisco et de là aller à Yosémite ( faut-il attérir à SFO, à Modesto, ou autre ?), et deuxième option, louer une voiture et faire un parcours comme vs le suggérez.
par rapport à Los Angeles, je ne suis pas emballée à l'idée d'y aller, ms mes filles tiennent à voir ça ! si on enlève le premier soir de notre arrivée, et le matin où ns prendrons notre camping-car à 8h30, ns ne passerons finalement qu'une journée complète à LA!
Ns allons rendre le CC à Las Vegas, et ns ns demandons si ns pouvons y dormir dedans à LV, ou s'il vaut mieux prendre un hôtel pour le fun ( ns avons lu que le circus circus est recommandé !)
voili voilou où ns en sommes, à peine le début et déjà plein d'excitation à l'idée de ce beau voyage en famille !
Merci pour vos commentaires qui nous aident bcp à avancer !
famille davignon
Pour le motorhome , quelle est la nom de l'agence ?
Cruise américa ou ....
Départ à 8h30 ??????
Pour le billet d'avion , chez connections, c'est une agence belge, on sait réverser par internet ... et chez eux, il n'y a pas de différence ou très peu ... si le depart et le retour n'est pas au même endroit !De plus le départ de Bruxelles est souvent beaucoup moins cher que Paris .... mais je ne sais où vous habitez Par contre pour le CC, le drop up est souvent assez chère.
Si je peux vous donnez un conseil ... je commencerais par Las Vegas et Retour à Las Vegas pour voir les parc de l'utah... puis prendre une voiture, ou un avion et une voiture pour faire le reste. Comme cela, vous pouvez passer par la vallée de la mort, sequoia parc, Yosémite ... et san Francisco (car en CC, ce n'est pas un bon plan, cette ville ne convient pas à ces véhicules) ensuite faire la côte jusque Los Angeles.
Je vous embrouille peut-être ... mais il me semble cette solution plus raisonnable.
Pour le billet d'avion , chez connections, c'est une agence belge, on sait réverser par internet ... et chez eux, il n'y a pas de différence ou très peu ... si le depart et le retour n'est pas au même endroit !De plus le départ de Bruxelles est souvent beaucoup moins cher que Paris .... mais je ne sais où vous habitez Par contre pour le CC, le drop up est souvent assez chère.
Si je peux vous donnez un conseil ... je commencerais par Las Vegas et Retour à Las Vegas pour voir les parc de l'utah... puis prendre une voiture, ou un avion et une voiture pour faire le reste. Comme cela, vous pouvez passer par la vallée de la mort, sequoia parc, Yosémite ... et san Francisco (car en CC, ce n'est pas un bon plan, cette ville ne convient pas à ces véhicules) ensuite faire la côte jusque Los Angeles.
Je vous embrouille peut-être ... mais il me semble cette solution plus raisonnable.
A+
Pour la location du camping-car, j'ai une option avec camping-car on line, l'avantage est qu'on a affaire à un Français pour les explications ! Mon anglais scolaire est plutôt bon à l'écrit, ms je m'attends à ne plus rien comprendre avec l'américain à l'oral !!!
Et donc, ns pouvons prendre possession du CC à 8h30, le matin! et prendre la route aussitôt vers le Grand Canyon , en faisant une pause la nuit.
Votre idée de faire la boucle LV-LV en camping-car me paraît interessante, d'autant que cela ns permettrait de faire le gros trajets LV-SF en voiture confortable. Ms ce trajet passerait donc par Death Valley, et permettrait de s'arrêter à Yosemite ? ceci sans faire la navette SFO-Yosemite que j'aurais du faire si j'avais fait LV-SFO en avion ? j'ai du mal avec cette partie du trajet, aussi vos remarques me sont ts utiles !
Concernant l'avion, je viens du Sud de la France, donc mon meilleur départ est Lyon, je pense ! J'attends des nouvelles de mon agence de voyages pour ça !
Merci pour vos renseignements... Vs ne m'avez pas indiqué l'adresse de votre blog !!Je suis preneuse de tts les infos !
famille davignon
Hello, 🙂
l'idee de Zibboux est interressante, vous pouvez mitiger CC et hotel/voiture. cote " cout de revient" entre CC ou hotel, pour avoir tester les 2 c'est quasi equivalent, idem, pareil .......
economiser sur le prix avion A/R et rajouter un vol interieur : faites vos calcul et verifier le + avantageux
etape Vegas : bon, nous on adore. c'est sympa a visiter, attention pas de possibilites de jouer dans les casinos si les enfants sont avec vous, mais rien que la visite des hotels , c'est a voir. pour dormir, 1 nuit, faut etre clair, a moins de s'offrir le luxe et le grand jeu, un hotel , c'est un hotel . quelque soit celui qui retiendrait votre attention, vous aurez une chambre , point ! bien sur les chambres sont en general agreable et spacieuse et cela peut etre une transition pour changer du CC. et c'est une soiree fun que de dormir sur le Strip a Vegas !! a savoir : pas de pti dej inclus a Vegas, faudra aller le prendre dns le lieu de votre choix et payer l'addition
ns avons lu que le circus circus est recommandé
ON OUBLIE le CIRCUS CIRCUS !!!! 🏴☠️🏴☠️ trop virulente ?? a peine si c'est pour dormir au Circus, franchement autant rester dans votre CC !!😕 je sais , c'est l'un des seul qui propose un centre de jeux pour les enfants. mais : c'est l'un des hotels les + minable que j'ai vu, les touristes y debarquent par bus entier : c'est le lieux preferes des tours operateurs, question tarif !! c'est un des hotels les plus anciens, et franchement pas de quoi s'extasier, meme le centre de jeux pour les enfants est minable, la foire annuelle de votre quartier doit faire mieux !
visite a LA, certain adore , d'autre pas... depend de ce que vous avez envie de voir , si c'est pour les ados, on peut supposer qu'une visite des points stategiques ( rapport au serie TV) peut etre suffisant, et puis prevoir un tour sur les differentes plages. 2 ou 3 jours
voila a si une derniere info, je ne connais vos dates exactes. mais info importantes pour vos resa. la periode 1er-10 juillet est super chargee eu US , a cause du WE du 4 juillet. ( fete national ) prevoyer vos resa de CC largement a l'avance ou vous aurez des difficultes idem pour les hotels si besoin.
A+ et bonne prepa
l'idee de Zibboux est interressante, vous pouvez mitiger CC et hotel/voiture. cote " cout de revient" entre CC ou hotel, pour avoir tester les 2 c'est quasi equivalent, idem, pareil .......
economiser sur le prix avion A/R et rajouter un vol interieur : faites vos calcul et verifier le + avantageux
etape Vegas : bon, nous on adore. c'est sympa a visiter, attention pas de possibilites de jouer dans les casinos si les enfants sont avec vous, mais rien que la visite des hotels , c'est a voir. pour dormir, 1 nuit, faut etre clair, a moins de s'offrir le luxe et le grand jeu, un hotel , c'est un hotel . quelque soit celui qui retiendrait votre attention, vous aurez une chambre , point ! bien sur les chambres sont en general agreable et spacieuse et cela peut etre une transition pour changer du CC. et c'est une soiree fun que de dormir sur le Strip a Vegas !! a savoir : pas de pti dej inclus a Vegas, faudra aller le prendre dns le lieu de votre choix et payer l'addition
ns avons lu que le circus circus est recommandé
ON OUBLIE le CIRCUS CIRCUS !!!! 🏴☠️🏴☠️ trop virulente ?? a peine si c'est pour dormir au Circus, franchement autant rester dans votre CC !!😕 je sais , c'est l'un des seul qui propose un centre de jeux pour les enfants. mais : c'est l'un des hotels les + minable que j'ai vu, les touristes y debarquent par bus entier : c'est le lieux preferes des tours operateurs, question tarif !! c'est un des hotels les plus anciens, et franchement pas de quoi s'extasier, meme le centre de jeux pour les enfants est minable, la foire annuelle de votre quartier doit faire mieux !
visite a LA, certain adore , d'autre pas... depend de ce que vous avez envie de voir , si c'est pour les ados, on peut supposer qu'une visite des points stategiques ( rapport au serie TV) peut etre suffisant, et puis prevoir un tour sur les differentes plages. 2 ou 3 jours
voila a si une derniere info, je ne connais vos dates exactes. mais info importantes pour vos resa. la periode 1er-10 juillet est super chargee eu US , a cause du WE du 4 juillet. ( fete national ) prevoyer vos resa de CC largement a l'avance ou vous aurez des difficultes idem pour les hotels si besoin.
A+ et bonne prepa
Enka
Voici mon adresse de blog ... mais il n'est pas terminé
http://ouest-usa-voyage.blog4ever.com/blog/index-377960.html
Pour un hotel à Las Vegas ... moi je suis passée par une adresse internet qui donne tous les promotions des Hotels casino et ça fonctionne ... http://www.earlyvegas.com/promo_codes.html
Nous avons logé à l'Excalibur (en 2009) ... très bien ... et fort bon marché ... et en 2007 nous avons pris un endroit dans le camping oasis.
Si je t'ai conseillé Las Vegas comme départ parce ce que en 2007, on a un peu regretté d'être parti de Los Angeles car cela faisait beaucoup de kilomètres pour atteindre les parc nationaux ...mais on s'est quand même bien amusé à Los Angeles, mais par contre on a vraiment adoré San Francisco ... Alcatraz (à réserver avant la départ sinon pas de places) les rues...., le tram ...
J'attends tes questions
A+
(pour une famille nombreuse, je crois vraiment que le motorhome est plus démocratique !)
http://ouest-usa-voyage.blog4ever.com/blog/index-377960.html
Pour un hotel à Las Vegas ... moi je suis passée par une adresse internet qui donne tous les promotions des Hotels casino et ça fonctionne ... http://www.earlyvegas.com/promo_codes.html
Nous avons logé à l'Excalibur (en 2009) ... très bien ... et fort bon marché ... et en 2007 nous avons pris un endroit dans le camping oasis.
Si je t'ai conseillé Las Vegas comme départ parce ce que en 2007, on a un peu regretté d'être parti de Los Angeles car cela faisait beaucoup de kilomètres pour atteindre les parc nationaux ...mais on s'est quand même bien amusé à Los Angeles, mais par contre on a vraiment adoré San Francisco ... Alcatraz (à réserver avant la départ sinon pas de places) les rues...., le tram ...
J'attends tes questions
A+
(pour une famille nombreuse, je crois vraiment que le motorhome est plus démocratique !)
A+
Quel est l'interet de passer par une agence de voyage pour prendre vos billets d'avion ???
a part y rajouter leur commission.
Sur Internet il est tres facile de prendre les billets, de faire plein de simulation, gratuitement. Et Bien souvent , on s'apercoit que l'arrivee et le depart dans 2 villes differentes sont à peine plus cher que si c'est une seule ville.
Qques dizaines d'euros. Et si vous comptez le temps perdu à faire une boucle, l'essence, le prix du vol interieur en plus, vous ne serez pas forcement gagnant. Ne pas oubliez de cocher la case multidestinations en faisant vos recherches.
Aux Us , tout est facile, et c'est vraiment le voyage à organiser par soi meme.
Pour le circus, je partage l'avis des autres forumeurs, à eviter.... Plein d'autres hotels font de bons prix en dehors du Weekend, et sont mieux placé que lui. L'excalibur plait bien aux enfants.
Bonne continuation
Aux Us , tout est facile, et c'est vraiment le voyage à organiser par soi meme.
Pour le circus, je partage l'avis des autres forumeurs, à eviter.... Plein d'autres hotels font de bons prix en dehors du Weekend, et sont mieux placé que lui. L'excalibur plait bien aux enfants.
Bonne continuation
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
suite à tous vos conseils, j'ai modifié mon itinéraire.J'ai zappé LA qui ne me branchait pas ^lus que ça ! Pouvez-vs me dire ce que vs en pensez, le plus rapidement possible car je dois boucker les réservations des vols au plus tôt !
J1 LVegas, arrivée le soir, tard ! J2 LV J3 location du camping-car et go to Zion J4 Zion-Bryce Canyon J5 BC J6 BC-Capitol Reef : est-ce que ce n'est pas tp ambitieux de vouloir pousser jusqu'à CF et Moab ? sachant que ns voulons profiter des beaux coins et ne pas épuiser notre garçon de 5 ans ? j'avais tout d'abord imaginé une boucle faisant LV-Zion-BC-Page-MV-GdC-LV, en restant le même nb de nuits, donc plus de tps ds chaque étape !! J7CR-Moab J8 Moab-Monument Valley J9 MV J10 MV-Page J11 Page-Gd Canyon J12 GC-L Vegas restitution Camping-car J13 location voiture et départ pour Death Valley ; où devons-ns arrêter ? J14 Death Valley-Sequoia Park : faisable ? J15 Sequoia Park-Yosemite : faisable ? J16 Y J17 Y J18 Y- San Francisco J19 SFO J20 SFO J21 SFO-France
Est-ce que le circuit tient la route, ou y a t-il des incohérences? LV-Death Valley-Sequoia Park-Yosemite, ça peut se faire comme je l'ai écrit, ou bien faut-il plus le fractionner ? Merci encore pour ttes vos réponses, et j'espère qu'à mon tour, je pourrai aider les personnes qui préparent leur circuit ! dernière question pour les vols : j'ai trouvé un aller avec 2 escales, à Londres, puis à LA . Est-ce que l'ensemble du trajet est considéré comme un vol avec des correspondances, c'est à dire, que si un vol a du retard, je ne perds pas le reste de mon trajet ? ou bien, cela comporte t-il des risques ?
J1 LVegas, arrivée le soir, tard ! J2 LV J3 location du camping-car et go to Zion J4 Zion-Bryce Canyon J5 BC J6 BC-Capitol Reef : est-ce que ce n'est pas tp ambitieux de vouloir pousser jusqu'à CF et Moab ? sachant que ns voulons profiter des beaux coins et ne pas épuiser notre garçon de 5 ans ? j'avais tout d'abord imaginé une boucle faisant LV-Zion-BC-Page-MV-GdC-LV, en restant le même nb de nuits, donc plus de tps ds chaque étape !! J7CR-Moab J8 Moab-Monument Valley J9 MV J10 MV-Page J11 Page-Gd Canyon J12 GC-L Vegas restitution Camping-car J13 location voiture et départ pour Death Valley ; où devons-ns arrêter ? J14 Death Valley-Sequoia Park : faisable ? J15 Sequoia Park-Yosemite : faisable ? J16 Y J17 Y J18 Y- San Francisco J19 SFO J20 SFO J21 SFO-France
Est-ce que le circuit tient la route, ou y a t-il des incohérences? LV-Death Valley-Sequoia Park-Yosemite, ça peut se faire comme je l'ai écrit, ou bien faut-il plus le fractionner ? Merci encore pour ttes vos réponses, et j'espère qu'à mon tour, je pourrai aider les personnes qui préparent leur circuit ! dernière question pour les vols : j'ai trouvé un aller avec 2 escales, à Londres, puis à LA . Est-ce que l'ensemble du trajet est considéré comme un vol avec des correspondances, c'est à dire, que si un vol a du retard, je ne perds pas le reste de mon trajet ? ou bien, cela comporte t-il des risques ?
famille davignon
Bonjour ,
J6 BC-Capitol Reef : est-ce que ce n'est pas tp ambitieux de vouloir pousser jusqu'à CF et Moab ? sachant que ns voulons profiter des beaux coins et ne pas épuiser notre garçon de 5 ans ? j'avais tout d'abord imaginé une boucle faisant LV-Zion-BC-Page-MV-GdC-LV, en restant le même nb de nuits, donc plus de tps ds chaque étape !! J7CR-Moab J8 Moab-Monument Valley J9 MV J10 MV-Page
Là, ca va pas du tout. MV ne necessite qu'une demi journée, bien sur on peut y rester plus en allant voir des choses autour, mais dans votre cas, ou vous n'avez pas trop de temps , je le ferez pas. donc J9 à supprimer.
Pour Moab, c'est à reflechir: Si je vous suis bien , en J3, vous arriverez dans l'apres midi à Zion: qq visites. J4 visite de Zion puis le soir route vers Bryce J5 Visite de Bryce. J6 depart tot de Bryce, visite de CR J7 depart tot vers Moab, vous y serez en debut d'apres midi. J8 Arches, J9 Canyonland ( Ilsand in the sky) et direction MV à la mi journée. J10 MV - Page.
Si vous faites cela ca passe, mais vous n'aurez pas beaucoup de temps de detente, cela implique de faire 4h de route par jour à partir de J6.
Faire le trajet vers Moab sur 1 jour ne presente aucun interet. L'autre solution est de vous faire mal, et de faire une grosse journée en J6. Vous partez le matin de Bryce, en passant par la 12, vous vous arretez en route pour admirer cette route, petit arret à Fruita egalement , et route jusqu'à Moab. Cela vous fait 7h de route, par contre vous gangez un jour sur Moab, pour faire Arches tranquillement, ainsi que les environs, les Needles, etc.... A vous de voir.
Dans tous les cas ne pas faire Moab pour un jour seulement, et MV ne prend pas plus d'un jour entier si on veut vraiment tout voir.
J6 BC-Capitol Reef : est-ce que ce n'est pas tp ambitieux de vouloir pousser jusqu'à CF et Moab ? sachant que ns voulons profiter des beaux coins et ne pas épuiser notre garçon de 5 ans ? j'avais tout d'abord imaginé une boucle faisant LV-Zion-BC-Page-MV-GdC-LV, en restant le même nb de nuits, donc plus de tps ds chaque étape !! J7CR-Moab J8 Moab-Monument Valley J9 MV J10 MV-Page
Là, ca va pas du tout. MV ne necessite qu'une demi journée, bien sur on peut y rester plus en allant voir des choses autour, mais dans votre cas, ou vous n'avez pas trop de temps , je le ferez pas. donc J9 à supprimer.
Pour Moab, c'est à reflechir: Si je vous suis bien , en J3, vous arriverez dans l'apres midi à Zion: qq visites. J4 visite de Zion puis le soir route vers Bryce J5 Visite de Bryce. J6 depart tot de Bryce, visite de CR J7 depart tot vers Moab, vous y serez en debut d'apres midi. J8 Arches, J9 Canyonland ( Ilsand in the sky) et direction MV à la mi journée. J10 MV - Page.
Si vous faites cela ca passe, mais vous n'aurez pas beaucoup de temps de detente, cela implique de faire 4h de route par jour à partir de J6.
Faire le trajet vers Moab sur 1 jour ne presente aucun interet. L'autre solution est de vous faire mal, et de faire une grosse journée en J6. Vous partez le matin de Bryce, en passant par la 12, vous vous arretez en route pour admirer cette route, petit arret à Fruita egalement , et route jusqu'à Moab. Cela vous fait 7h de route, par contre vous gangez un jour sur Moab, pour faire Arches tranquillement, ainsi que les environs, les Needles, etc.... A vous de voir.
Dans tous les cas ne pas faire Moab pour un jour seulement, et MV ne prend pas plus d'un jour entier si on veut vraiment tout voir.
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
ok, trop de tps à MV ! donc, si je comprends bien, le mieux serait de faire
J4 zion -BC
J5 BC
J6 BC-Moab : 7h de rte avec arrêt à Fruita
J7 Moab : rester une journée entière pour visites et détente ?
J8 Moab-MV
J9 MV-Page
J10 Page rester une journée entière plutôt à Page ou à MV ?
J11 Page-MValley
J12 MV-LVegas
Est-ce que c'est ça ? Arches, je le place où ? sur la journée à Moab, c'est bien ça ? Et Capitol Reef, je le zappe, ou je peux l'inclure ? en sachant que c'est essentiel de ne pas faire de gros trajats ts les jours ! Tjs par rapport à cette crainte de tp de km, mon idée de court-circuiter capitol reef et Moab, et donc de faire le circuit suivant, est-elle bonne ou trop restrictive des beaux sites que ns manquerons ? J4 Zion-BC J5 BC J6 BC-Page J7 Page J8 PAge-MV J9 MV- GC J10 GC Il me reste 1 jour à caser sur ce parcours avant d'aller à LV J12 GC-LV
Merci d'avance pour les réponses !
Est-ce que c'est ça ? Arches, je le place où ? sur la journée à Moab, c'est bien ça ? Et Capitol Reef, je le zappe, ou je peux l'inclure ? en sachant que c'est essentiel de ne pas faire de gros trajats ts les jours ! Tjs par rapport à cette crainte de tp de km, mon idée de court-circuiter capitol reef et Moab, et donc de faire le circuit suivant, est-elle bonne ou trop restrictive des beaux sites que ns manquerons ? J4 Zion-BC J5 BC J6 BC-Page J7 Page J8 PAge-MV J9 MV- GC J10 GC Il me reste 1 jour à caser sur ce parcours avant d'aller à LV J12 GC-LV
Merci d'avance pour les réponses !
famille davignon
J4 zion -BC
J5 BC
J6 BC-Moab : 7h de rte avec arrêt à Fruita
J7 Moab : rester une journée entière pour visites et détente ? a Moab, tu as le parc Arches, ainsi que Island in the sky et bien d'autre. De plus la ville est agreable: Ce n'est pas de la detente piscine, c'est de la ballade à Arches, avec plein de gros caillou à grimper si ton minot est cassecou.
J8 Moab-MV Pas MV , Ilsland in the sky et Canyon land.
J9 Moab -MV
J10 MV-Page Page rester une journée entière plutôt à Page ou à MV ? A MV il n'y a rien à faire en dehors du parcours, alors qu'à Page, tu as Horse shos bend ( a ne pas faire en pleine chaleur), Antelope Canyon: tres beau mais cher, et une ballade sur le lac, ou tout simplement baignade sur le lake Powell. Donc la journée passe toute seule.
J11 Page-GC
J12 GC-LVegas
Et Capitol Reef, je le zappe, ou je peux l'inclure ? Si tu t'arretes à Capitol Reef, tu te fais la route en 2 etapes, plus cool, mais en meme temps, tu pers un jour sur Moab. Tjs par rapport à cette crainte de tp de km, mon idée de court-circuiter capitol reef et Moab, et donc de faire le circuit suivant, est-elle bonne ou trop restrictive des beaux sites que ns manquerons ? J4 Zion-BC J5 BC J6 BC-Page J7 Page J8 PAge-MV J9 MV- GC J10 GC Il me reste 1 jour à caser sur ce parcours avant d'aller à LV J12 GC-LV Canyon de Chelly ou Mesa Verde dans ce cas là. Bien sur que tu rates quelque chose, mais ce sera toujours le cas, à moins de rester 6mois là-bas..... Donc choisis au mieux en fonction de ta famille. En gros tu fais le "grand circle" ce qui est deja tres representatif du grand ouest. Le mieux est d'aller chercher sur internet des photos de tous ces endroits, et de vous demander ceux que vous avez le plus envie de voir.
Et Capitol Reef, je le zappe, ou je peux l'inclure ? Si tu t'arretes à Capitol Reef, tu te fais la route en 2 etapes, plus cool, mais en meme temps, tu pers un jour sur Moab. Tjs par rapport à cette crainte de tp de km, mon idée de court-circuiter capitol reef et Moab, et donc de faire le circuit suivant, est-elle bonne ou trop restrictive des beaux sites que ns manquerons ? J4 Zion-BC J5 BC J6 BC-Page J7 Page J8 PAge-MV J9 MV- GC J10 GC Il me reste 1 jour à caser sur ce parcours avant d'aller à LV J12 GC-LV Canyon de Chelly ou Mesa Verde dans ce cas là. Bien sur que tu rates quelque chose, mais ce sera toujours le cas, à moins de rester 6mois là-bas..... Donc choisis au mieux en fonction de ta famille. En gros tu fais le "grand circle" ce qui est deja tres representatif du grand ouest. Le mieux est d'aller chercher sur internet des photos de tous ces endroits, et de vous demander ceux que vous avez le plus envie de voir.
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
oups! je me suis trompée ds mes abréviations à J11! ce n'étit pas Page-MV, mais Page- GC, bien sur !
si j'ai bien compris, tu recommandes de rester 2 jours entiers à Moab, y arriver à J6, y rester J7 et J8, et en repartir à J9 , direction MV ?
merci encore !
famille davignon
Bonjour,
Quelles sont les dates de tes vacances ? La Vallée de la Mort est interdite au RV uniquement l'été.
D'expérience, (avec 3 enfants) pour avoir fait l'Ouest en Monospace + Motel puis en Camping Car quelques années après, il est plus confortable de rouler avec tout son petit confort avec soi... surtout que les limitations de vitesse ne permettent pas de gagner du temps en voiture.
Quelles sont les dates de tes vacances ? La Vallée de la Mort est interdite au RV uniquement l'été.
D'expérience, (avec 3 enfants) pour avoir fait l'Ouest en Monospace + Motel puis en Camping Car quelques années après, il est plus confortable de rouler avec tout son petit confort avec soi... surtout que les limitations de vitesse ne permettent pas de gagner du temps en voiture.
merci pour les infos ! je ne pense pas faire death valley, ni en CC ni en voiture ! j'ai plutôt l'idée de prendre l'avion à LVegas, et aller le plus près possible de Yosemite (merced, modesto, fresno ou SFrancisco ?), louer une voiture à l'aéroport, aller à Yosemite, puis finir le séjour à SFrancisco !
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
famille davignon
Yosemite va vous sembler un peu fade après tout ce que vous aurez vu...
La Death Valley ce sont des paysages uniques et sur la route de San Francisco...
Pour info Las Vegas > San Francisco : 9 heures de route : faisable surtout en faisant un stop (Death Valley, Bodie ou lac Tahoe) histoire de ne pas faire que de la route toute la journée.
Là encore tout dépend de la saison.. la liaison pour rejoindre SF à partir de l'est est fermée jusqu'à mi-juin (neige...)
Là encore tout dépend de la saison.. la liaison pour rejoindre SF à partir de l'est est fermée jusqu'à mi-juin (neige...)
merci bcp pour vos réponses ! j'hésite pour aller ou pas à yosemite, d'après plusieurs commentaires sur le forum ! si je dois faire un choix, c'est mieux d'aller à yosemite ou à monterey et carmel ?
A bientôt
famille davignon
La côte est très jolie et je pense que cela vous permettra de varier un peu les plaisirs...
Hello,
Yosemite c'est sympa a voir, mais vous l'apprecierez surtout si vous etes randonneurs. c'est pas un parc fais pour les voitures. si comme nous vous n'avez pas envie de marcher dans la nature pendant des heures le circuit sera assez simple et impossible d'aller autre part que la route unique ou tout le monde roule en petit train, esperer pouvoir s'arreter lorsque le paysage vous attire, on oublie, pas facile, la route n'est pas prevue pour cela... on trouve juste 1 ou 2 arret a peu pres securisant , bref, en gros : on part du point A, on roule tranquil en traversant des point de vue sympa, on va jusqu'au point B : le parking et le point bouffe ou tout le monde s'agglutinne... ( sud du parc) c'a nous a suffit, on a pas eu envie d'en faire plus, mais on est pas randonneur ni "montagne" 😛
ceci dit, je ne regrette pas la ballade..
si je regarde votre planning, il n'y a pas grand chose cote "ocean", la cote est magnifique et une viree vers Monterey et Carmel est tres jolie a faire. vous avez l'aquarium a Monterey , qui plaira au enfants, ainsi que la promenade des 17 miles qui part de Monterey vers Carmel, superbe, on paye ( 10 $ si je me souviens) parce que c'est une reserve naturelle ou vous pourrez admirer les plages refuges des lion de mer, les enfants vont adorer. Monterey et Carmel vous offrent aussi des plages sympa
donc entre les 2, a vous de voir si vous etes ballade en montagne, ou bord de mer😉
Yosemite c'est sympa a voir, mais vous l'apprecierez surtout si vous etes randonneurs. c'est pas un parc fais pour les voitures. si comme nous vous n'avez pas envie de marcher dans la nature pendant des heures le circuit sera assez simple et impossible d'aller autre part que la route unique ou tout le monde roule en petit train, esperer pouvoir s'arreter lorsque le paysage vous attire, on oublie, pas facile, la route n'est pas prevue pour cela... on trouve juste 1 ou 2 arret a peu pres securisant , bref, en gros : on part du point A, on roule tranquil en traversant des point de vue sympa, on va jusqu'au point B : le parking et le point bouffe ou tout le monde s'agglutinne... ( sud du parc) c'a nous a suffit, on a pas eu envie d'en faire plus, mais on est pas randonneur ni "montagne" 😛
ceci dit, je ne regrette pas la ballade..
si je regarde votre planning, il n'y a pas grand chose cote "ocean", la cote est magnifique et une viree vers Monterey et Carmel est tres jolie a faire. vous avez l'aquarium a Monterey , qui plaira au enfants, ainsi que la promenade des 17 miles qui part de Monterey vers Carmel, superbe, on paye ( 10 $ si je me souviens) parce que c'est une reserve naturelle ou vous pourrez admirer les plages refuges des lion de mer, les enfants vont adorer. Monterey et Carmel vous offrent aussi des plages sympa
donc entre les 2, a vous de voir si vous etes ballade en montagne, ou bord de mer😉
Enka
bonjour,
j'ai fait à peu près ce circuit en 1999, avec 4 enfants, donc c'est très vieux.... mais pour Yossemit parc à l'époque il fallait absolument réserver, donc renseignez vous bien. Par contre niveau camping car pas de soucis ils sont au top. Un petit conseil Los angeles ne présente aucun intérêt, (mon avis perso évidemment) mais avec des enfants un tour à disney landes....et la visite des studios universal vaut aussi le coup.
San fransico à un emplacement pour camping car juste à l'entrée du centre ville (très pratique)
Pour vous déplacer n'hésitez pas à prendre les bus
j'ai fait à peu près ce circuit en 1999, avec 4 enfants, donc c'est très vieux.... mais pour Yossemit parc à l'époque il fallait absolument réserver, donc renseignez vous bien. Par contre niveau camping car pas de soucis ils sont au top. Un petit conseil Los angeles ne présente aucun intérêt, (mon avis perso évidemment) mais avec des enfants un tour à disney landes....et la visite des studios universal vaut aussi le coup.
San fransico à un emplacement pour camping car juste à l'entrée du centre ville (très pratique)
Pour vous déplacer n'hésitez pas à prendre les bus
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Hi everyone,
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing: 22 July: arrival in Johannesburg Night of 22–23: Johannesburg Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th) Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th) Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?) Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari) Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?) Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?) Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th 10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think? Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!
Nadia
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing: 22 July: arrival in Johannesburg Night of 22–23: Johannesburg Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th) Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th) Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?) Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari) Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?) Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?) Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th 10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think? Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!
Nadia
Hi dear Voyage Forum community,
So glad this precious forum still exists!
I’d love some advice on choosing a Christmas destination for a trip with my partner and our two kids, aged 10 and 12.
We’re looking for a place where we can enjoy great, easy snorkeling with the kids—ideally from the beach or in shallow water.
And if possible, a beautiful spot to explore, with nature, hikes, and a more laid-back, backpacker-friendly vibe than big resorts or mass tourism.
A "reasonable" flight time and not too much jet lag would be ideal!
I’ve been considering Mauritius, Zanzibar (plus possibly Tanzania), Martinique, or Guadeloupe—but maybe you have other suggestions or thoughts on these options?
Thanks in advance for your insights!
So glad this precious forum still exists!
I’d love some advice on choosing a Christmas destination for a trip with my partner and our two kids, aged 10 and 12.
We’re looking for a place where we can enjoy great, easy snorkeling with the kids—ideally from the beach or in shallow water.
And if possible, a beautiful spot to explore, with nature, hikes, and a more laid-back, backpacker-friendly vibe than big resorts or mass tourism.
A "reasonable" flight time and not too much jet lag would be ideal!
I’ve been considering Mauritius, Zanzibar (plus possibly Tanzania), Martinique, or Guadeloupe—but maybe you have other suggestions or thoughts on these options?
Thanks in advance for your insights!
5 days in Armenia with an 8-month-old baby
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
Hi there,
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set: Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Thanks everyone!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set: Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Thanks everyone!
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Thanks for your feedback!
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Thanks for your help!
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Thanks for your help!
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Hi everyone,
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Hello,
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
Hi there
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
Hello,
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
Dear Travelers,
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
Hi there,
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Hi there!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?






