Toujours sur mon circuit, pour le Grand Canyon il vaut mieux loger à Flagstaff ou à Williams et j'hésite à passer 2 nuits.J'attends vos conseils
Loger à Flagstaff ou Williams au Grand Canyon?
by Yougli
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Toujours sur mon circuit, pour le Grand Canyon il vaut mieux loger à Flagstaff ou à Williams et j'hésite à passer 2 nuits.J'attends vos conseils
Toujours sur mon circuit, pour le Grand Canyon il vaut mieux loger à Flagstaff ou à Williams et j'hésite à passer 2 nuits.J'attends vos conseils
Salut 🙂
J'avais réservé un hotel pour 3 nuits juste à coté du Gand Canyon, coté South Rim. J'essairai de retrouver le nom si tu veux.
Je pense que 2 jours ne sont pas de trop, bien au contraire. Déjà, si tu aimes marcher un peu, sans que celà soit forcément sportif, prépare toi un cae croute et part pour la journée. Avec un balade comme ça, tu iras la où la majorité des touristes ne vont pas (on a croisé personne de la jounée), et tu verras des paysages magnifique, et tu auras limpression que le Grand Canyon n'est que pour toi ! Pique niquer dans ces condition, sur le bord du canyon, c'est vraiment magique.
Ca te rempli donc déjà une journée complete. Ensuite, je te conseille vraiment le survol du Grand Canyon en avion. Je lai fait un matin, ce fut ma première vision du site, et franchement, c'est un ouvenir inoubliable !
Et ne loupe surtout pas les couchers de soleil. C'est clair que la, il y aura du monde au meilleur point de vue (qui sont indiqué des les guides, routard et NEOS), mais les couleurs sont quand même vraiment belles, et tout ce monde pour admirer le soleil se coucher sur le Grand Canyon, ça donne une ambiance tres festive, un vrai contraste avec les journées en solitaire. Ca vaut vraiment le coup.
Voila mon point de vue. Je suis resté au Grand Canyon 2 jours complets, et je serais bien resté plus longtemps...
Bon reveillon du nouvel an, et reve bien a ton voyage !🙂
J'avais réservé un hotel pour 3 nuits juste à coté du Gand Canyon, coté South Rim. J'essairai de retrouver le nom si tu veux.
Je pense que 2 jours ne sont pas de trop, bien au contraire. Déjà, si tu aimes marcher un peu, sans que celà soit forcément sportif, prépare toi un cae croute et part pour la journée. Avec un balade comme ça, tu iras la où la majorité des touristes ne vont pas (on a croisé personne de la jounée), et tu verras des paysages magnifique, et tu auras limpression que le Grand Canyon n'est que pour toi ! Pique niquer dans ces condition, sur le bord du canyon, c'est vraiment magique.
Ca te rempli donc déjà une journée complete. Ensuite, je te conseille vraiment le survol du Grand Canyon en avion. Je lai fait un matin, ce fut ma première vision du site, et franchement, c'est un ouvenir inoubliable !
Et ne loupe surtout pas les couchers de soleil. C'est clair que la, il y aura du monde au meilleur point de vue (qui sont indiqué des les guides, routard et NEOS), mais les couleurs sont quand même vraiment belles, et tout ce monde pour admirer le soleil se coucher sur le Grand Canyon, ça donne une ambiance tres festive, un vrai contraste avec les journées en solitaire. Ca vaut vraiment le coup.
Voila mon point de vue. Je suis resté au Grand Canyon 2 jours complets, et je serais bien resté plus longtemps...
Bon reveillon du nouvel an, et reve bien a ton voyage !🙂
Tous mes voyages en images : sur mon blog
Pou repondre a la question😇😇, deux nuits au grand canyon même si on ne randonne pas, c'est le minimum.
et loger sur place, c'est tout de meme mieux que de se faire ces kilometres... qui te feront rater et le lever et le coucher du soleil.😕😮😮😮😮😮
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
🙂 Williams c'est : une gare + 1 rue qui monte et une autre qui descent. Pour ma part j'ai préféré loger à Williams ville trés FarWest 1950 on y trouve des motels pas cher et de bons restos pas cher et copieux ( voir guide du routard ) . Tu sera à 3/4 d'heure de l'entrée de Grand Canyon.
hmmmmmmmmmmm plus de 100kms en 3/4 d'heures..😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Salut, j'ai logé à Flagstaff, petite ville sans bouscoulade (ses alentours sont superbes) ... Très agréable !
La ville se trouve à l'Arizona State Route 89A partant directement au Grand Canyon. Je ne sais plus, 1 ou 2 heures par voiture ... Passer 2 nuits, c'est pas trop, pourquoi ?!
Bon voyage, hgb
La ville se trouve à l'Arizona State Route 89A partant directement au Grand Canyon. Je ne sais plus, 1 ou 2 heures par voiture ... Passer 2 nuits, c'est pas trop, pourquoi ?!
Bon voyage, hgb
Bonjour,
Surtout pas Flagstaff ! C'est trop loin du Grand Canyon et à 45 miles/h, il faut "longtemps" pour faire le trajet Grand Canyon / Flagstaff (il y a 10 ans, on était logé à Flagstaff et on passait deux jours sur le Grand Canyon : c'était le gros point noir de notre voyage de 1996)
Mais il faut passer au moins deux jours sur le Gd Canyon pour profiter du coucher de soleil (ou du lever) et faire une petite randonnée, même si on ne descend pas jusqu'au Colorada, histoire d'avoir un point de vue différent.
Loger à l'intérieur du parc serait le mieux (mais il faut réserver très très à l'avance à ce qu'il parait pour une logement en dur).
Surtout pas Flagstaff ! C'est trop loin du Grand Canyon et à 45 miles/h, il faut "longtemps" pour faire le trajet Grand Canyon / Flagstaff (il y a 10 ans, on était logé à Flagstaff et on passait deux jours sur le Grand Canyon : c'était le gros point noir de notre voyage de 1996)
Mais il faut passer au moins deux jours sur le Gd Canyon pour profiter du coucher de soleil (ou du lever) et faire une petite randonnée, même si on ne descend pas jusqu'au Colorada, histoire d'avoir un point de vue différent.
Loger à l'intérieur du parc serait le mieux (mais il faut réserver très très à l'avance à ce qu'il parait pour une logement en dur).
Anne-Marie & Christophe
Site perso (carnets et photos de voyage) : www.amvdd.fr
Site perso (carnets et photos de voyage) : www.amvdd.fr
Surtout pas Flagstaff ! C'est trop loin du Grand Canyon et à 45 miles/h, il faut "longtemps" pour faire le trajet Grand Canyon / Flagstaff
Je te prie ... 2 heures (ou plus), c'est quoi aux Etats-Unis ?! Quel est le problème ?! J'ai même goûté le trajet Grand Canyon / Flagstaff par voiture ...
hgb
Je te prie ... 2 heures (ou plus), c'est quoi aux Etats-Unis ?! Quel est le problème ?! J'ai même goûté le trajet Grand Canyon / Flagstaff par voiture ...
hgb
deux heures aux USa ou n'importe où c'est toujours deux heures... et dans le cas présent, ça s'appelle une perte de temps.. chacun son truc.... 🤪
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Je suis totalement de l'avis de amvdd: Flagstaff est beaucoup trop loin de GC (au passage, la "petite ville" compte quand même 50 000 habitants, avec une circulation d'enfer sur Main Street 😉). Et il faut au minimum deux nuits sur place, à GC, pour voir le lever ET le coucher du soleil. La meilleure solution est de dormir dans le parc. A chaque fois nous avons dormi à Maswick Lodge, qui est très bien.
Kashtin 🙂
Kashtin 🙂
Je suis d'accord, Flagstaff, c'est quand même un peu loin. 😕
Mais Williams, on avait bien apprécié. "The Grand Canyon Starts Here", comme ils disent ; c'est que ça n'est pas le bout du monde 😉 Le bled typique de Route 66 (un peu plus une "vraie ville" que Kingman ou Seligman, qui sont plus à l'ouest), avec effectivement une voie ferrée omniprésente et un plan de circulation un peu particulier (ladite Route 66 se dédouble et la ville est en quelque sorte sens giratoire obligatoire, avec deux grands axes, l'un qui va vers le nord, et l'autre vers le sud).
Si mes souvenirs sont bons, nous avions dormi pour un prix honnête dans le "El Rancho Motel", l'un des tous premiers en arrivant du Canyon (http://www.williamschamber.com/...ID=23&cityid=5Je) Juste à côté, il y a une station service ouverte 24/24 et, détail technique pas inintéressant, une laverie automatique.
Je me souviens aussi que ce n'est pas là que nous avons le plus mal mangé 😏. Le soir, la patronne du motel nous avait envoyé dans un restau de bouffe mexicaine fort sympathique (je pourrais retrouver la référence si ça intéresse). Et le lendemain matin, je recommande la bonne adresse donnée par le Routard pour le breakfast (je ne l'ai pas sous les yeux non plus, mais je peux également retrouver sur demande).
A+
Laurent
Mais Williams, on avait bien apprécié. "The Grand Canyon Starts Here", comme ils disent ; c'est que ça n'est pas le bout du monde 😉 Le bled typique de Route 66 (un peu plus une "vraie ville" que Kingman ou Seligman, qui sont plus à l'ouest), avec effectivement une voie ferrée omniprésente et un plan de circulation un peu particulier (ladite Route 66 se dédouble et la ville est en quelque sorte sens giratoire obligatoire, avec deux grands axes, l'un qui va vers le nord, et l'autre vers le sud).
Si mes souvenirs sont bons, nous avions dormi pour un prix honnête dans le "El Rancho Motel", l'un des tous premiers en arrivant du Canyon (http://www.williamschamber.com/...ID=23&cityid=5Je) Juste à côté, il y a une station service ouverte 24/24 et, détail technique pas inintéressant, une laverie automatique.
Je me souviens aussi que ce n'est pas là que nous avons le plus mal mangé 😏. Le soir, la patronne du motel nous avait envoyé dans un restau de bouffe mexicaine fort sympathique (je pourrais retrouver la référence si ça intéresse). Et le lendemain matin, je recommande la bonne adresse donnée par le Routard pour le breakfast (je ne l'ai pas sous les yeux non plus, mais je peux également retrouver sur demande).
A+
Laurent
Bonjour,
J'avais logé à Flagstaff lors de mon voyage. Le matin on avait fait un à Williams pour jeter un oeil sur la ville et sur la réunion annuelle de corvettes. (voir site internet de la ville).
Ce que j'ai aimé à Flagstaff c'estle fait de ne pas me trouver dans un milieu touristico-touristique. Je m'explique:
Au grand canyon ou à Tusayan, tu ne sera qu'entre touristes. Peu de chances de croiser des autochtones. A Flagstaff, tu te retrouves au milieu d'une ville américaine, qui plus est très jeune. 😏. C'est très animé le soirau centre ville. Aéviter, maisc'estdit précédemment les motels le long dela voie ferrée avec destrains de 120 wagons qui klaxonnent en traversant la ville.
De la même façon, à Williams tu seras dans une atmosphère route 66 qui est désuette. J'ai aimé.😏
Alors, pourquoi pas:
Arrivée à Flagstaff l'AM
Le lendemain matin départ vers le GC via Williams
l'après midi visite du GC et nuit sur place...
Une nuit à Flagstaff et une nuit dans un lodge au GC ? 😉
Une nuit à Flagstaff et une nuit dans un lodge au GC ? 😉
Bonjour,
Ton idée de passer la 1ère nuit à Flagstaff me tente bien mais il y a pas mal d'hôtel et je ne sais pas si ils sont près de la voie ferrée si tu as un nom à me donner ... et la 2ème nuit dans le parc pour le lever du soleil Je repars ensuite sur LAX et d'après ce que j'ai lu dans le forum la route n'est pas sensass mais ça fait qd même pas mal de kms ou vaut il mieux faire étape ? Bonne fêtes à tous
Ton idée de passer la 1ère nuit à Flagstaff me tente bien mais il y a pas mal d'hôtel et je ne sais pas si ils sont près de la voie ferrée si tu as un nom à me donner ... et la 2ème nuit dans le parc pour le lever du soleil Je repars ensuite sur LAX et d'après ce que j'ai lu dans le forum la route n'est pas sensass mais ça fait qd même pas mal de kms ou vaut il mieux faire étape ? Bonne fêtes à tous
Bonjour,
Je pense il y a un malentendu dans tout ça😉 Il faut savoir d'ou tu vient pour se décider où tu veux loger. Si tu viens de Monument Valley ou Page.........alors choisis un des lodges DANS le parc........au moins pour la 1° nuit...........qui te permet de voir le sunset et le sunrise sur GC. La 2° nuit...........pour se rapprocher de LAX ........je logais à Williams après la visite du GC dans la journée🙂 Ou plus loins p.ex. à Seligman, Kingman........suivant ta visite au GC se termine tôt ou tard !
Voila mon petit avis😊
Je pense il y a un malentendu dans tout ça😉 Il faut savoir d'ou tu vient pour se décider où tu veux loger. Si tu viens de Monument Valley ou Page.........alors choisis un des lodges DANS le parc........au moins pour la 1° nuit...........qui te permet de voir le sunset et le sunrise sur GC. La 2° nuit...........pour se rapprocher de LAX ........je logais à Williams après la visite du GC dans la journée🙂 Ou plus loins p.ex. à Seligman, Kingman........suivant ta visite au GC se termine tôt ou tard !
Voila mon petit avis😊
Bonjour à tous (et meilleurs voeux 😉)
Je confirme que connaître le sens du circuit détermine avant tout le lieu où on loge... Si tu viens de Monument Valley, avant l'intersection de South Rim ou Desert View Drive qui mène à Grand Canyon, se trouve Cameron. Un espèce de bourg au milieu de nulle part, et au bord d'un petit canyon le Trading Post de Cameron (voir site http://www.camerontradingpost.com) avec hotel, restaurant indien, boutique et une station service. Après avoir fait quelques motels en 2004, ce lodge fait vraiment grand luxe. Les indiens sont pas super souriants, mais on mange assez bien au resto et les chambres sont vraiment superbes ! sur la base d'une double il faut compter ttc 84$ pour une date avant la grande saison (avant 31 mai)... ce qui vu l'endroit n'est pas excessif. Sinon, dans l'autre sens, Williams est super. Il y a un Motel6 (attention il y en a 2! y- celui qui est à l'Ouest) d'excellent rapport qualité-prix, avec des chambres très spacieuses, piscine couverte et jacuzzi, juste à côté d'un Walmart ou autre supermarché, je ne sais plus bien, pratique pour les sandwiches du lendemain. Pour notre prochain voyage (en avril) j'ai réservé à ce motel 1 chambre double pour 49€ HT. Compter une heure de Williams à Grand Canyon, sans problème, je confirme à condition qu'il n'y ai pas de circulation !! Sinon, Flagstaff est bien plus agréable pour un séjour et il est pratique effectivement de rayonner de cet endroit, moins touristique ... bien que... Et à condition d'être loin, loin, de la voie ferrée... Top bruyant ! Mais trop éloigné pour un circuit allant ou venant de Grand Canyon ...
Bon voyage 😄
Je confirme que connaître le sens du circuit détermine avant tout le lieu où on loge... Si tu viens de Monument Valley, avant l'intersection de South Rim ou Desert View Drive qui mène à Grand Canyon, se trouve Cameron. Un espèce de bourg au milieu de nulle part, et au bord d'un petit canyon le Trading Post de Cameron (voir site http://www.camerontradingpost.com) avec hotel, restaurant indien, boutique et une station service. Après avoir fait quelques motels en 2004, ce lodge fait vraiment grand luxe. Les indiens sont pas super souriants, mais on mange assez bien au resto et les chambres sont vraiment superbes ! sur la base d'une double il faut compter ttc 84$ pour une date avant la grande saison (avant 31 mai)... ce qui vu l'endroit n'est pas excessif. Sinon, dans l'autre sens, Williams est super. Il y a un Motel6 (attention il y en a 2! y- celui qui est à l'Ouest) d'excellent rapport qualité-prix, avec des chambres très spacieuses, piscine couverte et jacuzzi, juste à côté d'un Walmart ou autre supermarché, je ne sais plus bien, pratique pour les sandwiches du lendemain. Pour notre prochain voyage (en avril) j'ai réservé à ce motel 1 chambre double pour 49€ HT. Compter une heure de Williams à Grand Canyon, sans problème, je confirme à condition qu'il n'y ai pas de circulation !! Sinon, Flagstaff est bien plus agréable pour un séjour et il est pratique effectivement de rayonner de cet endroit, moins touristique ... bien que... Et à condition d'être loin, loin, de la voie ferrée... Top bruyant ! Mais trop éloigné pour un circuit allant ou venant de Grand Canyon ...
Bon voyage 😄
* * Mes circuits au Etats Unis sont détaillés dans mon profil... **
Oups !! j'ai encore été trop vite 🤪
* * Mes circuits au Etats Unis sont détaillés dans mon profil... **
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Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!





