Salut!
Je compte partir à Las Vegas la semaine prochaine mais je n'ai que 20 ans!
Es ce que ça vaut le coup? qu'es ce qu'il y a à faire?
Merci beaucoup!
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Voyage à Las Vegas à moins de 21 ans?
by Frenchboy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ah oui! Las Vegas n' est pas pour les enfants...
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Tout dans la vie est une affaire de choix. Ça commence par la tétine ou le téton, ça se termine par le chêne ou le sapin. *Everything in life is a matter of choice. It starts with "pacifier or nipple", it ends with "oak or pine". Pierre Desproges.
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A las vegas l'age de majorité est de 21 ans. j'y suis aller en octobre dernier (Jai 19 ans ) avec mon frere de 23 ans et on devait faire les reservation dhotel a son nom car je navais pas lage donc certain hotel peuvent te refuser la location de la chambre. mais il y a sans doute une facon de faire pour pouvoir. Meme a 20 ans ya tout plein de choses a faire a Vegas. Sauf les casino, car si tu gagne un gros montant il ne pourront pas te le donner mais tu a le droit d'entrer dans les casino et il y a tant d'autres chose a faire que ca. La stratopshere tower avec ses manèges au sommet. completement délirant et la vue est genial. Aussi les spectacles que les grand hotels offres gratuitement le soir (Le Mirage. Le Bellagio et le Treasur Island) a ne pas manquer, j'y suis retourner tout les soir. et si tu a le tempe et une voiture ya la death valley qui se trouve a 2h30 de route de la qui est superbe. (mais prevoir y dormir une nuit ).
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/etats-unis_age_legal_pour_entrer_dans_les_casinos_las_vegas_D1597828/
voir ce post là! où le sujet a déjà était traité
Pour voir les galeries de photos allez sur mon profil
Hello!
Si tu peux louer une voiture, il y a la "valley of fire" qui est splendide, et génial pour faire un picnic ou prendre le grand air du désert! (j'ai trouvé l'endroit carrément magique! et c'est un peu plus près que la death valley...) en ce qui concerne les casino si tu n'as pas l'âge il y a games works, si ça existe toujours, c'est une immense arcade avec des jeux de fêtes foraines. Sinon tous les casinos proposent des shows, concerts, ont des cinémas ou des centres commerciaux et même des zoos! Si tu as moins de 21 ans, il y beaucoup à voir quand même, j'y suis allée à l'âge de 15ans et ne m'y suis jamais ennuyée! Mais c'est sûre que le tour est rapidement fait, donc si tu vas pour une longue durée c'est mieux d'avoir une voiture ou les moyens de sortir un peu de la ville... voir de l'état du Nevada! Si jamais à la frontière de l'Arizona, si tu aimes bien les visites, il y a le Hoover Dam qui a été construit pendant la dépression de 29, c'est très intéressant et plutôt impressionnant! ^_^
Bon voyage!
Si tu peux louer une voiture, il y a la "valley of fire" qui est splendide, et génial pour faire un picnic ou prendre le grand air du désert! (j'ai trouvé l'endroit carrément magique! et c'est un peu plus près que la death valley...) en ce qui concerne les casino si tu n'as pas l'âge il y a games works, si ça existe toujours, c'est une immense arcade avec des jeux de fêtes foraines. Sinon tous les casinos proposent des shows, concerts, ont des cinémas ou des centres commerciaux et même des zoos! Si tu as moins de 21 ans, il y beaucoup à voir quand même, j'y suis allée à l'âge de 15ans et ne m'y suis jamais ennuyée! Mais c'est sûre que le tour est rapidement fait, donc si tu vas pour une longue durée c'est mieux d'avoir une voiture ou les moyens de sortir un peu de la ville... voir de l'état du Nevada! Si jamais à la frontière de l'Arizona, si tu aimes bien les visites, il y a le Hoover Dam qui a été construit pendant la dépression de 29, c'est très intéressant et plutôt impressionnant! ^_^
Bon voyage!
Bonjour, je lance cette bouteille à la mer.
C'est sur le même thème que la question de départ, ma soeur et une amie à elle ont prévu d'aller deux jours à las vegas et ont réservé un hôtel (the mirage) mais en y regardant de plus près, elles se sont rendues compte que celui-ci n'accepte pas les personnes de - de 21 ans!!!!! C'est une catastrophe car elles ont réservé leur vol, des excursions coûteuses et on se pose la question de savoir si c'est une règle édictée pour tous les hôtels à las Vegas ou connaîtriez-vous un hôtel convenable pour 2 jeunes femmes qui ne demandent pas cette condition d'âge??
Merci pour votre réponse!!
Merci pour votre réponse!!
Bonjour,
Je crois , hélas, que les 21 ans correspondent à une règle "pseudo-policère" plutôt bien respectée à l'enregistrement dans un motel ou hôtel US ! Si une des deux personnes est proche des 21 fatidiques, et qu'elle n'a pas l'air plus jeune... ça pourra peut être passer ! Mais partout dans les bars et au casino , les contrôles sont effectifs !
Mais dans n'importe quel motel hormis Vegas, ça sera la même chose : on demande toujours une pièce d'identité ne serait-ce que pour vérifier la concordance de nom entre réservation et la personne devant le guichet.
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Un grand merci pour ta réponse même si elle ne me réconforte absolument pas!!
Mais le pire, c'est qu'elles commencent à New-york leur périple et à aucun moment on leur a parlé de cette règle. Le vol pour las vegas est payé, l'excursion en hélico aussi!! C'est une catastrophe si on leur refuse l'hébergement!!
Elles ont toutes les 2 l'air jeune!!
Bonjour,
Q: If we're not 21, can we still rent a hotel room on the Strip? A: Age policies vary greatly by hotel. All our hotel pages list the minimum age to book a room. The vast majority of hotels on the Strip do require you to be 21 to reserve a hotel room. There are a few notable exceptions: Try the Las Vegas Hilton. At last check, this hotel allowed those 18 and older with a valid credit card to book a room. There also are a number of smaller properties off the Strip that allow those 18 and over. If you're under 21 and need help finding a hotel, call our travel specialists at 800-851-1703, and they'll be happy to hook you up.
http://www.vegas.com/traveltips/guide/crowd.html
Voici la liste des hôtels http://www.vegas.com/resorts/ pour le cas où ça vous tente de les visiter un par un pour savoir lequel accepte ou pas.
À leur place, je ne changerais pas mes plans et je me présenterais à l'enregistrement du Mirage comme si rien n'était.
Comme il est dit dans le texte cité, c'est 18 ans au Las Vegas Hilton qui serait très convenable pour deux jeunes femmes.
Q: If we're not 21, can we still rent a hotel room on the Strip? A: Age policies vary greatly by hotel. All our hotel pages list the minimum age to book a room. The vast majority of hotels on the Strip do require you to be 21 to reserve a hotel room. There are a few notable exceptions: Try the Las Vegas Hilton. At last check, this hotel allowed those 18 and older with a valid credit card to book a room. There also are a number of smaller properties off the Strip that allow those 18 and over. If you're under 21 and need help finding a hotel, call our travel specialists at 800-851-1703, and they'll be happy to hook you up.
http://www.vegas.com/traveltips/guide/crowd.html
Voici la liste des hôtels http://www.vegas.com/resorts/ pour le cas où ça vous tente de les visiter un par un pour savoir lequel accepte ou pas.
À leur place, je ne changerais pas mes plans et je me présenterais à l'enregistrement du Mirage comme si rien n'était.
Comme il est dit dans le texte cité, c'est 18 ans au Las Vegas Hilton qui serait très convenable pour deux jeunes femmes.
Au Hilton :
"Check In Time: 3 p.m. Check Out Time: 12 p.m. You must be at least 18 years old to check-in. Children under 18 years of age stay free when accompanied by an adult. Must present the credit card used to secure the reservation at check-in. Guests booking must be 21 years of age or older and full prepayment is required."
Par contre le Trump , c'est possible pour les +19 ans : http://www.trumplasvegashotel.com/ case réservation adults (+19)
Tenter quand même le Mirage , surtout si la réservation est pré-payée.
Sinon chercher un hôtel sans casino et jeux d'argent.
Patrick
Par contre le Trump , c'est possible pour les +19 ans : http://www.trumplasvegashotel.com/ case réservation adults (+19)
Tenter quand même le Mirage , surtout si la réservation est pré-payée.
Sinon chercher un hôtel sans casino et jeux d'argent.
Patrick
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Merci PSI31! Ma soeur a envoyé un mail au Mirage et attend la réponse, c'est vrai que ce serait plus simple que cela reste ainsi et qu'elles puissent rester dans cet hôtel, cela éviterait qu'elles doivent recontacter les organisateurs de l'excursion.
cependant, vous m'avez redonner de l'espoir avec la possibilité de trouver un hôtel à Las Vegas!!
Mille mercis pour votre solidarité!!
Mille mercis pour votre solidarité!!
Bonjour,
Dites-vous bien que tout est toujours possible à Las Vegas.
En ces temps de reprise économique très lente surtout à Las Vevas, je m'imagine bien difficilement un hôtel être à ce point à cheval sur l'âge requis pour s'y enregistrer.
Ce serait bien que vous nous reveniez pour nous dire ce qui en est.
Dites-vous bien que tout est toujours possible à Las Vegas.
En ces temps de reprise économique très lente surtout à Las Vevas, je m'imagine bien difficilement un hôtel être à ce point à cheval sur l'âge requis pour s'y enregistrer.
Ce serait bien que vous nous reveniez pour nous dire ce qui en est.
Pour le Mirage , la réponse :
Dear Mr Patrick,
Thank you for contacting the Mirage. Our age requirement is 21 years old to check into our property.
Please do not hesitate to contact us with any further questions.
Room Reservations
The Mirage. Vegas Starts Here™
Phone: 702.791.7444 | Fax:702.791.7495
Autre possibilité , louer au Desert Rose , petit studio , à partir de 18 ans :
Dear Mr Patrick,
Yes, to be a guest you must be at least 18 years of age with a valid credit card and picture identifaction card.
Thanks! Reservations Department Shell Vacations Hospitality Desert Rose Resort 5051 Duke Ellington Way Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 reservationsdrr@shellvacationsllc.com Telephone: 702.739.7000 Toll Free 800.811.2450 Fax: 702.739-9350 www.Shellvacationshospitality.com The information contained in this communication may be confidential, and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of this individual or entity to who it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you.
Patrick
Dear Mr Patrick,
Thank you for contacting the Mirage. Our age requirement is 21 years old to check into our property.
Please do not hesitate to contact us with any further questions.
Room Reservations
The Mirage. Vegas Starts Here™
Phone: 702.791.7444 | Fax:702.791.7495
Autre possibilité , louer au Desert Rose , petit studio , à partir de 18 ans :
Dear Mr Patrick,
Yes, to be a guest you must be at least 18 years of age with a valid credit card and picture identifaction card.
Thanks! Reservations Department Shell Vacations Hospitality Desert Rose Resort 5051 Duke Ellington Way Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 reservationsdrr@shellvacationsllc.com Telephone: 702.739.7000 Toll Free 800.811.2450 Fax: 702.739-9350 www.Shellvacationshospitality.com The information contained in this communication may be confidential, and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of this individual or entity to who it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you.
Patrick
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Merci pour votre aide à tous!!
Quelle solidarité!!
L'agence ebookers qui a vendu le produit n'était pas au courant et s'est renseigné avec deux réponses contradictoires consécutives... Le mail envoyé par ma soeur n'a pas encore reçu de réponse mais grâce à vos informations, elles étaient peut-être intéressées par Le Trump. Je vous tiendrais au courant pour la suite mais encore une fois, un grand merci!!
L'agence ebookers qui a vendu le produit n'était pas au courant et s'est renseigné avec deux réponses contradictoires consécutives... Le mail envoyé par ma soeur n'a pas encore reçu de réponse mais grâce à vos informations, elles étaient peut-être intéressées par Le Trump. Je vous tiendrais au courant pour la suite mais encore une fois, un grand merci!!
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Bonjour,
C'est un peu comme si on demandait par écrit au Mirage "Est-ce vrai que chez-vous pour 20$ je peux avoir un surclassement?"
Pas nécessaire d'être grand devin pour savoir ce que l'hôtel va répondre.
Pourtant dans les faits, le truc du 20$ fonctionne très bien à cet hôtel comme ailleurs aussi.
C'est un peu comme si on demandait par écrit au Mirage "Est-ce vrai que chez-vous pour 20$ je peux avoir un surclassement?"
Pas nécessaire d'être grand devin pour savoir ce que l'hôtel va répondre.
Pourtant dans les faits, le truc du 20$ fonctionne très bien à cet hôtel comme ailleurs aussi.
Bonjour,
Ta soeur a t'elle pu profiter de sa réservation sans problème ?
Merci
Patrick
Ta soeur a t'elle pu profiter de sa réservation sans problème ?
Merci
Patrick
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En principe, et elle touche du bois, elle part demain si le temps le permet et qu'American Airlines n'annule pas le vol!!!
Vu le temps sur place, son entrain et sa motivation en ont pris un coup... mais on croise les doigts pour que son séjour se passe au mieux!!!
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!