Faire un compte rendu de mon voyage en Thaïlande
by Mimialti
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Je voudrais faire un compte rendu de mon voyage, mais cela risque d'être assez long. Comment faire ? en deux ou trois fois ? ou bien les habitués connaissent-ils un autre moyen ?
Salut mimi le meilleur moyen reste celui de faire un blog puis d'en mettre le lien sur VF sinon tu as des infos a ce sujet sur ces rubriques de VF, ICI et LA 😉 Bons récits, on attends les photos 🙂
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Banal, mais pratique pour faire partager avec les amis et la famille (c'était mon but premier) et par la suite toute personnes intéressé par le sujet.
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Je n'aurai pas dit banal même si ca revient au même mais plutôt tendance, voire même fashion 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Banal, mais pratique pour faire partager avec les amis et la famille
je n'ai pas dit le contraire, , , , , , , , 😛
😏😏😏😏
je n'ai pas dit le contraire, , , , , , , , 😛
😏😏😏😏
Si j'avais du talent comme, Alan, Chris, Yangguizi, Chris51...et plusieurs autres, j'aurais de quoi passer le temps les jours de pluies, donc je me contente de mes gribouillis comme mémoire, dans mon bloc-notes😊
S.D
Banal, mais pratique pour faire partager avec les amis et la famille
je n'ai pas dit le contraire, , , , , , , , 😛
C'est vrai 😏 je voulais juste le signaler 😉
je n'ai pas dit le contraire, , , , , , , , 😛
C'est vrai 😏 je voulais juste le signaler 😉
"
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
.........je sais je fait parti as been merci, , , , , Ce n'est pas ce que je voulais dire sinon on est 2 a être "has been", j'ai pas de blog non plus 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
.........je sais je fait parti as been merci, , , , , Ce n'est pas ce que je voulais dire sinon on est 2 a être "has been", j'ai pas de blog non plus 😉
3........pareil......on va pas non plus s'emmerder à passer des heures sur l'ordi pour raconter ses vacances.....
3........pareil......on va pas non plus s'emmerder à passer des heures sur l'ordi pour raconter ses vacances.....
""Ce n'est pas ce que je voulais dire sinon on est 2 a être "has been", j'ai pas de blog non plus""
Et 1, et 2, et 3 le club va s' agrandir je crois bien 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
.........je sais je fait parti as been merci, , , , , Ce n'est pas ce que je voulais dire sinon on est 2 a être "has been", j'ai pas de blog non plus 😉
3........pareil......on va pas non plus s'emmerder à passer des heures sur l'ordi pour raconter ses vacances..... En effet a moins d'avoir autre chose a raconter de plus intéressant comme le font si bien Sidartha et voyageurasi (entre autres) par exemple ou comme Chriscool afin de renseigner et conseiller le voyageur de passage 😉🙂😎
3........pareil......on va pas non plus s'emmerder à passer des heures sur l'ordi pour raconter ses vacances..... En effet a moins d'avoir autre chose a raconter de plus intéressant comme le font si bien Sidartha et voyageurasi (entre autres) par exemple ou comme Chriscool afin de renseigner et conseiller le voyageur de passage 😉🙂😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Je suis assez d'accord avec toi certains blogs peuvent être ininterressant car justement très personnel.
Mais d'un autre côté, on oblige personne à aller lire le moindre blog.
Et quand j'ai préparé mon voyage en Thailande, la 1ere chose que j'ai faîte a été d'aller lire des blogs et carnets de voyages. Et j'en ai retiré déjà une 1ere approche.
Je fais actuellement un blog sur mon voyage pour ma famille et mes amis principalement qui me l'ont demandés.
Je mettrai l'adresse en ligne ici pour ceux qui peuvent être interressé mais en aucun cas je demanderai à ceux que ça enquiquine d'aller le consulter.
Et puis si pour certains ça peut être emmerdant de passer des heures sur son ordi pour raconter ses vacances, pour d'autres ça peut être un réel plaisir que de les revivre en les racontant.
Pourquoi toujours tant d'intolérance et de mépris???
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
Salut anne, tu m'as mal compris, je n'ai pas dit que c'était inintéressant en soi mais que c'était très a la mode de faire son blog (d'ou les pov' has been que nous sommes les nons blogueurs....on restera d'humbles blagueurs 😉). Il est clair que faire un blog de voyage a l'intention de sa famille et de ses amis reste un choix perso que je ne conteste nullement, je ne suis pas obligé d'aller le voir comme tu dis, mais je trouve tout de même cela un peu exhébitionniste dès lors qu'il est ouvert au public et non pas réservé a un cercle restreint. Il reste un bon moyen de mettre des photos en ligne sur un site qui les héberge afin que ses amis et sa famille puissent les voir et/ou les télécharger a distance mais je n'appelerai pas ca un blog 🙂 Je ne vois donc pas pourquoi tu m'accuses d'intolérance et de mépris 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Excuse moi si j'ai été forte dans mes propos, mes mots ont dépassés ma pensée, je fais amende honorable 😉.
C'est la 1ere fois que je fais un blog ou si tu préfère, un récit de mon voyage mais nul exhibitionnisme là dedans, plutôt une envie de faire partager ce que j'ai vécu et aimé en apportant peut-être et sans vouloir être présomptueuse quelques renseignements comme j'ai pu en profiter moi même dans d'autres récits de voyages.
Après effectivement, chacun peux aimer ou non le fait de se raconter .
sans rancune 😊
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
No souci, tu aurais du commencer par le début, ma réponse a mimi
Salut mimi le meilleur moyen reste celui de faire un blog puis d'en mettre le lien sur VF sinon tu as des infos a ce sujet sur ces rubriques de VF, ICI et LA 😉 Bons récits, on attends les photos 🙂
On attend les photos, c'est toujours un plaisir de revoir ou découvrir des endroits ou l'on est ou on voudrait allé 😎😉
On attend les photos, c'est toujours un plaisir de revoir ou découvrir des endroits ou l'on est ou on voudrait allé 😎😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
No souci, tu aurais du commencer par le début, ma réponse a mimi
Salut mimi le meilleur moyen reste celui de faire un blog puis d'en mettre le lien sur VF sinon tu as des infos a ce sujet sur ces rubriques de VF, ICI et LA 😉 Bons récits, on attends les photos 🙂
Effectivement, je reconnais 😉
Effectivement, je reconnais 😉
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
Je pars bientot (merde encore 100 jours) pour 5 mois en Asie de Sud Est et mes proches et mes amis seront plutôt content de pouvoir me suivre et voir si je suis toujours vivant des ces contrées hostiles 😉 (ma famille n'a jamais beaucoup voyager alors je les laisse croire que je suis un baroudeur sans peur, affrontant de grandes difficultés... joke) 😉
Maintenant, je compte y insérer des infos utiles, des adresses, des prix, des itinéraires, etc... à ceux que ca peut intéresser, tant mieux. Exib ou pas... qu'importe. J'y j'y trouve un certain plaisir et si d'autre en éprouve en le lisant...
Ca changera pas la face du monde un blog mais c'est pas le but hein!
Maintenant, je compte y insérer des infos utiles, des adresses, des prix, des itinéraires, etc... à ceux que ca peut intéresser, tant mieux. Exib ou pas... qu'importe. J'y j'y trouve un certain plaisir et si d'autre en éprouve en le lisant...
Ca changera pas la face du monde un blog mais c'est pas le but hein!
plusieurs facons:
sur VF mais la il est vrai qu il y a des pointures ! faire un blog perso, un site tres simple d utilisation :
http://www.canalblog.com/public/
regarde la presentation de mon blog (lien dans mon profil) a toi de donner une touche perso, convivial pour partager avec sa famile et, ses amis si tu decides pour cette option n hesite pas a me contacter en MP si tu rencontres des problemes
en complement un hebergeur photos, , une bonne facon de sauvegarder ses photos,
voir aussi dans mon profil 2ieme lien
Je voudrais faire un compte rendu de mon voyage, mais cela risque d'être assez long. Comment faire ? en deux ou trois fois ? ou bien les habitués connaissent-ils un autre moyen ?
sur VF mais la il est vrai qu il y a des pointures ! faire un blog perso, un site tres simple d utilisation :
http://www.canalblog.com/public/
regarde la presentation de mon blog (lien dans mon profil) a toi de donner une touche perso, convivial pour partager avec sa famile et, ses amis si tu decides pour cette option n hesite pas a me contacter en MP si tu rencontres des problemes
en complement un hebergeur photos, , une bonne facon de sauvegarder ses photos,
voir aussi dans mon profil 2ieme lien
Je voudrais faire un compte rendu de mon voyage, mais cela risque d'être assez long. Comment faire ? en deux ou trois fois ? ou bien les habitués connaissent-ils un autre moyen ?
Je fais actuellement le mien sur uniterre.com, très facile d'utilisation
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
Véro, je tiens les comptes 😉😉😉😉😉
ça fait 5 😛😛😛😛😛 relire la copie 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
Je voudrais faire un compte rendu de mon voyage, mais cela risque d'être assez long. Comment faire ? en deux ou trois fois ? ou bien les habitués connaissent-ils un autre moyen ?
Tu te sers de VF en toile de fond, cela demande pas une grande expérience, tu ne pourrras pas joindre beaucoup de photos quoi que ...., tu y passes beaucoup de temps comme certains .... et en plus, tu es sur d'avoir en retour la critique et les critiques en même temps 😉
Tu te sers de VF en toile de fond, cela demande pas une grande expérience, tu ne pourrras pas joindre beaucoup de photos quoi que ...., tu y passes beaucoup de temps comme certains .... et en plus, tu es sur d'avoir en retour la critique et les critiques en même temps 😉
<< Expliquer , c'est perdre son temps>> .
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!





