Faire sa cuisine sur le GR20
by Krinette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour , je part bientôt pour le GR 20 , je m'interroge si je doit emmené mon réchaud avec ma popote après avoir opté pour loué une toile de tente a chaque refuge pour allégé mon sac a dos , il pèse encore trop lourd ( 14 kg ) sans l'eau , ma question est , es que dans les refuges du GR 20 il y a de quoi se faire chauffé de l 'eau et cuisiné , surtout pour se faire un café le matin ( primordial ! ) merci pour vos réponses que j'attend avec impatience ! Bonne journée
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
14 kg ? mais tu as mis quoi dans ton sac ? c'est lourd ! je suis sure que tu dois pouvoir t'alleger
en bivouac perso je mange froid. Le café c'est pas bien agréable j'en conviens, mais pour le reste ça le fait bien. J'emporte du lait condensé sucré en tube et des barres de céréales pour le matin. et le gain de poids me fait sourire sur le café (en dosettes) froid.
je ne connais pas le GR20 mais ailleurs j'ai toujours vu des gites avec de quoi chauffer....
une popote ultra légère : à fabriquer avec une canette https://youtu.be/5bXwIL_5YqI avec ça tu achètes un bon "quart" qui te sert à tout : boire dans la journée et faire chauffer et boire ton jus ou manger ta purée ou tes nouilles 😉
connais tu le site "randonner léger" : une mine de bons conseils pour alléger le sac https://www.randonner-leger.org/forum/
c'est un peu des ultras 😉 mais ils répondent très gentiment aux demandes de conseils. Moi ça m'a bien aidée.
bonne route
en bivouac perso je mange froid. Le café c'est pas bien agréable j'en conviens, mais pour le reste ça le fait bien. J'emporte du lait condensé sucré en tube et des barres de céréales pour le matin. et le gain de poids me fait sourire sur le café (en dosettes) froid.
je ne connais pas le GR20 mais ailleurs j'ai toujours vu des gites avec de quoi chauffer....
une popote ultra légère : à fabriquer avec une canette https://youtu.be/5bXwIL_5YqI avec ça tu achètes un bon "quart" qui te sert à tout : boire dans la journée et faire chauffer et boire ton jus ou manger ta purée ou tes nouilles 😉
connais tu le site "randonner léger" : une mine de bons conseils pour alléger le sac https://www.randonner-leger.org/forum/
c'est un peu des ultras 😉 mais ils répondent très gentiment aux demandes de conseils. Moi ça m'a bien aidée.
bonne route
Il y a des plaques gaz à l'extérieur des refuges pour les campeurs
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Merci beaucoup pour vos réponse , oui c'est beaucoup 14 kg sans l'eau ! je pense avoir pris le minimum en prévoyant la pluie et du froid , c'est la première fois que je part en randonnée si longtemps et en Corse ( je prévois 15 jours ) , ma fille qui part avec moi en ai a 13 kg. Je n'ai pas vraiment le matérielles pour randonnée ultra léger , moi c'est plutôt la randonnée vélo sur plusieurs semaines que je pratique , le poids du matos est important aussi mais moins exigeant, et la je galère pour alléger le sac a dos . Encore merci a vous .
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
ce n'est pas seulement une question de matériel.
c'est aussi ce que l'on emporte comme fringues, comme produit de toilettes, comme .. tout tout tout.
parfois le léger ne coute pas grand chose. comme par exemple comparer le poids de votre récipient pour l'eau (combien de L ? quel poids à vide ?). perso je prends un litre sur moi dans deux petites bouteilles du commerce. je me réapprovisionne en route (faut se renseigner la dessus sur chaque parcours) j'ai laissé tomber les camel bag du commerce. gain de poids. et tout comme ça. les vêtements aussi, il faut optimiser la quantité de chaque et le poids. quand on pèse on voit les différences. perso c'est 1 change dans le sac, plus un polaire léger et un truc pour la pluie. c'est tout. je lave le soir le "petit linge" pour le lendemain.
c'est plus une question d'état d'esprit que de matos.
on descend facilement à moins de 10 kg, largement même. je suis partie plus d'un mois en rando marche longue avec 7 kg (avec l'eau). c''est plus plaisant pour marcher.
c'est aussi ce que l'on emporte comme fringues, comme produit de toilettes, comme .. tout tout tout.
parfois le léger ne coute pas grand chose. comme par exemple comparer le poids de votre récipient pour l'eau (combien de L ? quel poids à vide ?). perso je prends un litre sur moi dans deux petites bouteilles du commerce. je me réapprovisionne en route (faut se renseigner la dessus sur chaque parcours) j'ai laissé tomber les camel bag du commerce. gain de poids. et tout comme ça. les vêtements aussi, il faut optimiser la quantité de chaque et le poids. quand on pèse on voit les différences. perso c'est 1 change dans le sac, plus un polaire léger et un truc pour la pluie. c'est tout. je lave le soir le "petit linge" pour le lendemain.
c'est plus une question d'état d'esprit que de matos.
on descend facilement à moins de 10 kg, largement même. je suis partie plus d'un mois en rando marche longue avec 7 kg (avec l'eau). c''est plus plaisant pour marcher.
Tu a raison Cambrousse , je vais essayais d'optimiser mes affaires a emporté ! si seulement je pouvait réduire mon sac a 10 kg ainsi que celui de ma fille ça serais top ! Merci beaucoup
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
La premiere fois que j ai fait ca j ai mis un peu de temps. Apres ca allait tout seul.
Aides toi de ta balance de cuisine. Pese chaque chose que tu veux emporter. Tu vas vite voir le total monter 😉 Apres on se prend un peu la tete sur chaque chose. Y a plein d objet qu on est amene a remplacer par qq chose de moins lourd. Ne pas avoir peur du detail. Enlever 50 gr par ci 100 gr par la ...ca finit par chiffrer. Et puis vous etes deux. Vous pouvez eviter certains doublons. Dentifrice et savon...genre 😉 surement d autres choses. Tout compte.
A ecrire ca fait un peu obsessionnel.... Je sais 🙂 mais ca vaut le coup. Apres qq jours de marche vous verrez aussi d autres trucs car chacun se fait son propre micmac
Enjoy
Aides toi de ta balance de cuisine. Pese chaque chose que tu veux emporter. Tu vas vite voir le total monter 😉 Apres on se prend un peu la tete sur chaque chose. Y a plein d objet qu on est amene a remplacer par qq chose de moins lourd. Ne pas avoir peur du detail. Enlever 50 gr par ci 100 gr par la ...ca finit par chiffrer. Et puis vous etes deux. Vous pouvez eviter certains doublons. Dentifrice et savon...genre 😉 surement d autres choses. Tout compte.
A ecrire ca fait un peu obsessionnel.... Je sais 🙂 mais ca vaut le coup. Apres qq jours de marche vous verrez aussi d autres trucs car chacun se fait son propre micmac
Enjoy
bonjour,
A titre d'information et pour un peu "mesurer" j'ai parcouru le GR 20 avec une amie en 14 jrs en "autonomie" (seul les picnics du midi ont été acheté en chemin). J'avais 15 kg avec toute la nourriture + le tarp (à la place d'une tente) et mon amie 13 kg. Sur les dernières étapes (vu que l'on avait tout mangé🙂) on était à 7 ou 8 kg environ . Je peux te dire que le poids est bien important sur cette randonnée si tu veux pas être trop vite démoralisé
A titre d'information et pour un peu "mesurer" j'ai parcouru le GR 20 avec une amie en 14 jrs en "autonomie" (seul les picnics du midi ont été acheté en chemin). J'avais 15 kg avec toute la nourriture + le tarp (à la place d'une tente) et mon amie 13 kg. Sur les dernières étapes (vu que l'on avait tout mangé🙂) on était à 7 ou 8 kg environ . Je peux te dire que le poids est bien important sur cette randonnée si tu veux pas être trop vite démoralisé
Bonsoir Veve , effectivement je dois réduire le poids du sac, il faut que je trouve l essentielle à emmener , j'ai fait une croix sur la toile de tente , le matelas , le réchaud, la popote, il faut que je me déleste encore de 2 ou 3 kg . Ça fait des mois que j économise pour préparer cette randonnée ça serait dommage de ne pas l apprécié parce que je n ai pas su préparer mon sac à dos ! Merci encore, bonne soirée.
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
N est il pas plus simple d acheter de quoi diner au fur et a mesure puisque l on peut chaque jour acheter des piqueniques ?
Cette surcharge de poids ne semble pas s imposer....
Choix ou obligation ?
Merci beaucoup Cambrousse pour tes bon conseils j en prend bien note. Bonne soirée.
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
Je vous souhaite une belle rando. C est magique la randonnee.🙂
1000 merci Cambrousse , je connaissais la méthode canette pour faire un réchaud mais j'ai jamais essayé d'un fabriqué une , tu m'a convaincu ! du coup je l'ai fait est ça marche !! trop contente ! bonne soirée
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
😉
Sur qu avec ca on ne se prepare pas une poularde de bresse a la creme 🙂
Mais ca depanne bien et ca ne pese pas grand chose.
Super Martine 🙂
Super Martine 🙂
question de budget🙂
J'ai apprécié commencer par le sud, nous sommes arrivées pour les étapes du nord allégé et en forme
Je dirais de circonstance.😉
Nous allons également commencées par le sud le 3 juin. Encore merci a tous pour vos réponse!
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
c'est à dire?
Disons que quitte à payer un plat de pâte 10 euros, j'aime autant le faire moi même..
Par contre je bois toujours mon café chaud🙂
c'est à dire?
Disons que quitte à payer un plat de pâte 10 euros, j'aime autant le faire moi même..
Par contre je bois toujours mon café chaud🙂
je ne vois pas à quoi cela fait référence. Ai je dit qu'il fallait s'offrir des plats de pâtes à 10 euros ???
chacun a ses astuces en randonnée .....
je ne vois pas à quoi cela fait référence. Ai je dit qu'il fallait s'offrir des plats de pâtes à 10 euros ???
chacun a ses astuces en randonnée .....
alors je n'ai rien compris à ton post
moi, je me suis peut-être mal expliquée..
bon pas grave, l'essentiel est qu'on ai transmis chacun nos idées au "demandeur" 😉
Bonjour
Il y a pas de la vaisselles dans tout les refuges, un sur trois peut être ! vaut mieux prévoir un minimum avec soi .
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
Bonjour,
J'en reviens au titre de la conversation : qu'y a-t-il comme matos å disposition pour cuisiner dans les refuges? Du gaz ça j'ai compris mais également des casseroles ou poêle ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses !
Bonjour, J'ai parcouru le GR20 en Juin 2015, de Calenzana à Vizavonna, et j'ai pas eu besoin de porter de Casserole ou de Poele, ni de couvert ou d'assiette, tout etais disponible, pour faire la cuisine. Bonne Rando, Erido
J'en reviens au titre de la conversation : qu'y a-t-il comme matos å disposition pour cuisiner dans les refuges? Du gaz ça j'ai compris mais également des casseroles ou poêle ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses !
Bonjour, J'ai parcouru le GR20 en Juin 2015, de Calenzana à Vizavonna, et j'ai pas eu besoin de porter de Casserole ou de Poele, ni de couvert ou d'assiette, tout etais disponible, pour faire la cuisine. Bonne Rando, Erido
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From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro







