Faire sa cuisine sur le GR20
by Krinette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour , je part bientôt pour le GR 20 , je m'interroge si je doit emmené mon réchaud avec ma popote après avoir opté pour loué une toile de tente a chaque refuge pour allégé mon sac a dos , il pèse encore trop lourd ( 14 kg ) sans l'eau , ma question est , es que dans les refuges du GR 20 il y a de quoi se faire chauffé de l 'eau et cuisiné , surtout pour se faire un café le matin ( primordial ! ) merci pour vos réponses que j'attend avec impatience ! Bonne journée
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
14 kg ? mais tu as mis quoi dans ton sac ? c'est lourd ! je suis sure que tu dois pouvoir t'alleger
en bivouac perso je mange froid. Le café c'est pas bien agréable j'en conviens, mais pour le reste ça le fait bien. J'emporte du lait condensé sucré en tube et des barres de céréales pour le matin. et le gain de poids me fait sourire sur le café (en dosettes) froid.
je ne connais pas le GR20 mais ailleurs j'ai toujours vu des gites avec de quoi chauffer....
une popote ultra légère : à fabriquer avec une canette https://youtu.be/5bXwIL_5YqI avec ça tu achètes un bon "quart" qui te sert à tout : boire dans la journée et faire chauffer et boire ton jus ou manger ta purée ou tes nouilles 😉
connais tu le site "randonner léger" : une mine de bons conseils pour alléger le sac https://www.randonner-leger.org/forum/
c'est un peu des ultras 😉 mais ils répondent très gentiment aux demandes de conseils. Moi ça m'a bien aidée.
bonne route
en bivouac perso je mange froid. Le café c'est pas bien agréable j'en conviens, mais pour le reste ça le fait bien. J'emporte du lait condensé sucré en tube et des barres de céréales pour le matin. et le gain de poids me fait sourire sur le café (en dosettes) froid.
je ne connais pas le GR20 mais ailleurs j'ai toujours vu des gites avec de quoi chauffer....
une popote ultra légère : à fabriquer avec une canette https://youtu.be/5bXwIL_5YqI avec ça tu achètes un bon "quart" qui te sert à tout : boire dans la journée et faire chauffer et boire ton jus ou manger ta purée ou tes nouilles 😉
connais tu le site "randonner léger" : une mine de bons conseils pour alléger le sac https://www.randonner-leger.org/forum/
c'est un peu des ultras 😉 mais ils répondent très gentiment aux demandes de conseils. Moi ça m'a bien aidée.
bonne route
Il y a des plaques gaz à l'extérieur des refuges pour les campeurs
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Merci beaucoup pour vos réponse , oui c'est beaucoup 14 kg sans l'eau ! je pense avoir pris le minimum en prévoyant la pluie et du froid , c'est la première fois que je part en randonnée si longtemps et en Corse ( je prévois 15 jours ) , ma fille qui part avec moi en ai a 13 kg. Je n'ai pas vraiment le matérielles pour randonnée ultra léger , moi c'est plutôt la randonnée vélo sur plusieurs semaines que je pratique , le poids du matos est important aussi mais moins exigeant, et la je galère pour alléger le sac a dos . Encore merci a vous .
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
ce n'est pas seulement une question de matériel.
c'est aussi ce que l'on emporte comme fringues, comme produit de toilettes, comme .. tout tout tout.
parfois le léger ne coute pas grand chose. comme par exemple comparer le poids de votre récipient pour l'eau (combien de L ? quel poids à vide ?). perso je prends un litre sur moi dans deux petites bouteilles du commerce. je me réapprovisionne en route (faut se renseigner la dessus sur chaque parcours) j'ai laissé tomber les camel bag du commerce. gain de poids. et tout comme ça. les vêtements aussi, il faut optimiser la quantité de chaque et le poids. quand on pèse on voit les différences. perso c'est 1 change dans le sac, plus un polaire léger et un truc pour la pluie. c'est tout. je lave le soir le "petit linge" pour le lendemain.
c'est plus une question d'état d'esprit que de matos.
on descend facilement à moins de 10 kg, largement même. je suis partie plus d'un mois en rando marche longue avec 7 kg (avec l'eau). c''est plus plaisant pour marcher.
c'est aussi ce que l'on emporte comme fringues, comme produit de toilettes, comme .. tout tout tout.
parfois le léger ne coute pas grand chose. comme par exemple comparer le poids de votre récipient pour l'eau (combien de L ? quel poids à vide ?). perso je prends un litre sur moi dans deux petites bouteilles du commerce. je me réapprovisionne en route (faut se renseigner la dessus sur chaque parcours) j'ai laissé tomber les camel bag du commerce. gain de poids. et tout comme ça. les vêtements aussi, il faut optimiser la quantité de chaque et le poids. quand on pèse on voit les différences. perso c'est 1 change dans le sac, plus un polaire léger et un truc pour la pluie. c'est tout. je lave le soir le "petit linge" pour le lendemain.
c'est plus une question d'état d'esprit que de matos.
on descend facilement à moins de 10 kg, largement même. je suis partie plus d'un mois en rando marche longue avec 7 kg (avec l'eau). c''est plus plaisant pour marcher.
Tu a raison Cambrousse , je vais essayais d'optimiser mes affaires a emporté ! si seulement je pouvait réduire mon sac a 10 kg ainsi que celui de ma fille ça serais top ! Merci beaucoup
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
La premiere fois que j ai fait ca j ai mis un peu de temps. Apres ca allait tout seul.
Aides toi de ta balance de cuisine. Pese chaque chose que tu veux emporter. Tu vas vite voir le total monter 😉 Apres on se prend un peu la tete sur chaque chose. Y a plein d objet qu on est amene a remplacer par qq chose de moins lourd. Ne pas avoir peur du detail. Enlever 50 gr par ci 100 gr par la ...ca finit par chiffrer. Et puis vous etes deux. Vous pouvez eviter certains doublons. Dentifrice et savon...genre 😉 surement d autres choses. Tout compte.
A ecrire ca fait un peu obsessionnel.... Je sais 🙂 mais ca vaut le coup. Apres qq jours de marche vous verrez aussi d autres trucs car chacun se fait son propre micmac
Enjoy
Aides toi de ta balance de cuisine. Pese chaque chose que tu veux emporter. Tu vas vite voir le total monter 😉 Apres on se prend un peu la tete sur chaque chose. Y a plein d objet qu on est amene a remplacer par qq chose de moins lourd. Ne pas avoir peur du detail. Enlever 50 gr par ci 100 gr par la ...ca finit par chiffrer. Et puis vous etes deux. Vous pouvez eviter certains doublons. Dentifrice et savon...genre 😉 surement d autres choses. Tout compte.
A ecrire ca fait un peu obsessionnel.... Je sais 🙂 mais ca vaut le coup. Apres qq jours de marche vous verrez aussi d autres trucs car chacun se fait son propre micmac
Enjoy
bonjour,
A titre d'information et pour un peu "mesurer" j'ai parcouru le GR 20 avec une amie en 14 jrs en "autonomie" (seul les picnics du midi ont été acheté en chemin). J'avais 15 kg avec toute la nourriture + le tarp (à la place d'une tente) et mon amie 13 kg. Sur les dernières étapes (vu que l'on avait tout mangé🙂) on était à 7 ou 8 kg environ . Je peux te dire que le poids est bien important sur cette randonnée si tu veux pas être trop vite démoralisé
A titre d'information et pour un peu "mesurer" j'ai parcouru le GR 20 avec une amie en 14 jrs en "autonomie" (seul les picnics du midi ont été acheté en chemin). J'avais 15 kg avec toute la nourriture + le tarp (à la place d'une tente) et mon amie 13 kg. Sur les dernières étapes (vu que l'on avait tout mangé🙂) on était à 7 ou 8 kg environ . Je peux te dire que le poids est bien important sur cette randonnée si tu veux pas être trop vite démoralisé
Bonsoir Veve , effectivement je dois réduire le poids du sac, il faut que je trouve l essentielle à emmener , j'ai fait une croix sur la toile de tente , le matelas , le réchaud, la popote, il faut que je me déleste encore de 2 ou 3 kg . Ça fait des mois que j économise pour préparer cette randonnée ça serait dommage de ne pas l apprécié parce que je n ai pas su préparer mon sac à dos ! Merci encore, bonne soirée.
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
N est il pas plus simple d acheter de quoi diner au fur et a mesure puisque l on peut chaque jour acheter des piqueniques ?
Cette surcharge de poids ne semble pas s imposer....
Choix ou obligation ?
Merci beaucoup Cambrousse pour tes bon conseils j en prend bien note. Bonne soirée.
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
Je vous souhaite une belle rando. C est magique la randonnee.🙂
1000 merci Cambrousse , je connaissais la méthode canette pour faire un réchaud mais j'ai jamais essayé d'un fabriqué une , tu m'a convaincu ! du coup je l'ai fait est ça marche !! trop contente ! bonne soirée
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
😉
Sur qu avec ca on ne se prepare pas une poularde de bresse a la creme 🙂
Mais ca depanne bien et ca ne pese pas grand chose.
Super Martine 🙂
Super Martine 🙂
question de budget🙂
J'ai apprécié commencer par le sud, nous sommes arrivées pour les étapes du nord allégé et en forme
Je dirais de circonstance.😉
Nous allons également commencées par le sud le 3 juin. Encore merci a tous pour vos réponse!
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
c'est à dire?
Disons que quitte à payer un plat de pâte 10 euros, j'aime autant le faire moi même..
Par contre je bois toujours mon café chaud🙂
c'est à dire?
Disons que quitte à payer un plat de pâte 10 euros, j'aime autant le faire moi même..
Par contre je bois toujours mon café chaud🙂
je ne vois pas à quoi cela fait référence. Ai je dit qu'il fallait s'offrir des plats de pâtes à 10 euros ???
chacun a ses astuces en randonnée .....
je ne vois pas à quoi cela fait référence. Ai je dit qu'il fallait s'offrir des plats de pâtes à 10 euros ???
chacun a ses astuces en randonnée .....
alors je n'ai rien compris à ton post
moi, je me suis peut-être mal expliquée..
bon pas grave, l'essentiel est qu'on ai transmis chacun nos idées au "demandeur" 😉
Bonjour
Il y a pas de la vaisselles dans tout les refuges, un sur trois peut être ! vaut mieux prévoir un minimum avec soi .
" J'aime les gens fêlés car a travers eux passe la lumiére ...... "
Bonjour,
J'en reviens au titre de la conversation : qu'y a-t-il comme matos å disposition pour cuisiner dans les refuges? Du gaz ça j'ai compris mais également des casseroles ou poêle ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses !
Bonjour, J'ai parcouru le GR20 en Juin 2015, de Calenzana à Vizavonna, et j'ai pas eu besoin de porter de Casserole ou de Poele, ni de couvert ou d'assiette, tout etais disponible, pour faire la cuisine. Bonne Rando, Erido
J'en reviens au titre de la conversation : qu'y a-t-il comme matos å disposition pour cuisiner dans les refuges? Du gaz ça j'ai compris mais également des casseroles ou poêle ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses !
Bonjour, J'ai parcouru le GR20 en Juin 2015, de Calenzana à Vizavonna, et j'ai pas eu besoin de porter de Casserole ou de Poele, ni de couvert ou d'assiette, tout etais disponible, pour faire la cuisine. Bonne Rando, Erido
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So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Bonjour a tous,
je pars en voyage au Maroc en aout et nous allons commencer par nous arrêter a Chefchaouen(nous sommes en voiture).
Ma question: quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer un itinéraire de rando en boucle d'entre 5 et 7 jours aux départ de Chefchaouen dans le parc de Talassemtane passant si possible par le pont de dieux?Ou un guide papier qui en reunis quelques uns?
Nous privilégions le camping sauvage et les gites.
Merci d'avance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann







