Cet itinéraire est-il faisable (temps de parcours)?Nous aimons beaucoup marcher, adorons la nature mais n'aimons pas la foule: nous apprécions peu les paysages noirs de monde alors les gorges de l'ardèche nous font un peu peur... surtout à cette période... Que nous conseillez-vous? A-t'on plus de chances d'apprécier les gorges si nous les descendons à pied? Combien d'heures de marche faudrait-il prévoir, avec nuit au camping de Gaud ou Gournier? Ou alors doit-on doit-on faire les gorges en voiture, pour se concentrer sur d'autres gorges moins touristiques? Concernant les grottes et avens, y en a-t'il de plus remarquables que celles citées? Quels lieux nous conseilleriez-vous, en sachant que nous recherchons avant tout la nature. Nous privilégions les campings à la ferme (moins nous voyons de monde, mieux c'est...) alors si vous avez des adresses sympas, nous sommes preneurs! Merci beaucoup Audrey
Dix jours de camping en Ardèche au mois de juillet 2009
by Leqdu
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, nous aimerions découvrir l'ardèche l'été prochain (environ 10j de camping). Nous avons parcouru un guide touristique et voici une première ébauche d'itinéraire:
Jour 1: Lalouvesc: rando, ascension du mont Chiniac nuit au camping du lac de Devesset
Jour 2: village de St clément, ascensuion du Mont Mezenc ou Gerbier de Jopnc (lequel???) Nuit au camping de Borée
Jour 3: Visite de Lachamp-Raphaël, cascade du Ray-pic, Antraigues su volaine: rando et nuit au camping.
Jour 4: Visite de Meyras, Thuyets: rando et baignade, visite de Jaujac. Nuit à Montréal
Jour 5: Visite de Balazuc, balade jusqu'au viel-audon (baignade) - Voguë - Ruoms - Cirque de Gens - Labeaume et ses gorges.Nuit au cmping de Grospierres
Jour 6: Bois de PaÏolive - gorges de chassezac: canoë? - visite de Naves - nuit au camping de Casteljau
Jour 7: direction orgnac l'aven où nous ferons l'odssée souterraine (8h l'A/R de spéléo dans l'aven). Nuit au camping de St Martin d'Ardèche.
Jour 8: Descente des gorges de Vallon pont d'arc jusqu'à Gaud
Jour 9: Descente de Gaud à St Martin d'Ardèche. Visite de la grotte St Marcel. Nuit au camping de St Martin d'Ardèche.
Jour 9: Visite de St Montant et des gorges de la Ste Baume. Canyonig à St andéol de Berg . Nuit à St Vincentde Barrès
Jour 10: visite de Alba la romaine, Aubignas- retour
Cet itinéraire est-il faisable (temps de parcours)?Nous aimons beaucoup marcher, adorons la nature mais n'aimons pas la foule: nous apprécions peu les paysages noirs de monde alors les gorges de l'ardèche nous font un peu peur... surtout à cette période... Que nous conseillez-vous? A-t'on plus de chances d'apprécier les gorges si nous les descendons à pied? Combien d'heures de marche faudrait-il prévoir, avec nuit au camping de Gaud ou Gournier? Ou alors doit-on doit-on faire les gorges en voiture, pour se concentrer sur d'autres gorges moins touristiques? Concernant les grottes et avens, y en a-t'il de plus remarquables que celles citées? Quels lieux nous conseilleriez-vous, en sachant que nous recherchons avant tout la nature. Nous privilégions les campings à la ferme (moins nous voyons de monde, mieux c'est...) alors si vous avez des adresses sympas, nous sommes preneurs! Merci beaucoup Audrey
Cet itinéraire est-il faisable (temps de parcours)?Nous aimons beaucoup marcher, adorons la nature mais n'aimons pas la foule: nous apprécions peu les paysages noirs de monde alors les gorges de l'ardèche nous font un peu peur... surtout à cette période... Que nous conseillez-vous? A-t'on plus de chances d'apprécier les gorges si nous les descendons à pied? Combien d'heures de marche faudrait-il prévoir, avec nuit au camping de Gaud ou Gournier? Ou alors doit-on doit-on faire les gorges en voiture, pour se concentrer sur d'autres gorges moins touristiques? Concernant les grottes et avens, y en a-t'il de plus remarquables que celles citées? Quels lieux nous conseilleriez-vous, en sachant que nous recherchons avant tout la nature. Nous privilégions les campings à la ferme (moins nous voyons de monde, mieux c'est...) alors si vous avez des adresses sympas, nous sommes preneurs! Merci beaucoup Audrey
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BONJOUR. J'habite à quelques kilomètres du lac de Devesset. J'y vais de temps en temps à pieds, c'est une de mes promenades préférées.
Je vous propose de venir me voir en passant, et même si vous voulez de venir dormir chez moi, avant de partir pour le Mont Mézenc et le Gerbier de joncs dont vous pouvez faire les deux ascencion le même jour ( faciles ).
Vallon Pont d'Arc et grouillant de monde en été. A éviter si vous n'aimez pas la foule. Sans compter que c'est le rendez-vous des drogués et dealers de tous poils !!!
Votre itinairaire me semble un peu chargé pour 10 jours.
La meilleure façon de voir les Gorges et Vallon Pont d'Arc est le canoé.
Bon voyage !!
papy-russ
Merci pour votre réponse! On viendra vous voir, promis! Et peut-être même dormir, c'est si gentiment proposé!!!
Ah, Vallon pont d'arc nous pose un véritable dilemne... Vraiment, nous n'aimons pas la foule, ça c'est sûr!(pour vous en rendre compte, une petite visite sur notre site de voyage en Islande cet été, lien dans la signature au bas du message). Mais aller en Ardèche sans faire les gorges de l'Ardèche... dommage... on n'a vraiment aucune certitude de pouvoir revenir à une autre période. Sinon on pourrait faire le "circuit" en sens inverse, c'est-à dire partir des gorges de l'ardèche pour remonter ensuite. Ca nous ferait descendre les gorges en canoë (puisque apparemment c'est mieux en canoë) vers le 6-7 juillet, il y a sûrement moins de monde que mi-juillet? Ca vaudrait le coup? La "faune " dont vous parlez à Vallon pont d'Arc ne bivouaque certainement pas? Sinon, quel endroit moins peuplé pourrait-on découvrir en canoë? Quels sites nous conseillez-vous et lesquels ne sont pas indispensables, afin d'alléger éventuellement notre parcours? (on aime moyennement visiter les villes ou villages, on préfère les sites naturels)
A bientôt
Audrey
http://lunedemielislandaise.wifeo.com
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Bonjour,
je suis une habitante de grospierres. d'abord je voudrais dire que sur vallon il n'y a pas que des drogués il y a aussi des étrangers qui viennent en famille depuis de nombreuses années.
Sur grospierres il y a un joli coin qui s'appelle la font vive et au dessus un ancien village qu s'appelle le chastelas. C'est une agréable petite promenade à faire.
C'est vrai que venir en ardeche et ne pas faire les gorges c'est dommage. la descente en canoe est super mais à pieds c'est pas mal aussi. pour ce qui est de la foule il vaut mieux venir début juillet et après en haute ardeche.
La visite de orgnac de 8 heures est pour des gens un peu sportifs car c'est vraiment de la spéléo. Pour moi, l'aven d'orgnac et la cocalière sont les 2 grottes qui sont intéressante. Les autres c'est pas terrible. La casquade du ray pic est à voir mais il y a de nonmbreuses autres balades à voir.
je suis une habitante de grospierres. d'abord je voudrais dire que sur vallon il n'y a pas que des drogués il y a aussi des étrangers qui viennent en famille depuis de nombreuses années.
Sur grospierres il y a un joli coin qui s'appelle la font vive et au dessus un ancien village qu s'appelle le chastelas. C'est une agréable petite promenade à faire.
C'est vrai que venir en ardeche et ne pas faire les gorges c'est dommage. la descente en canoe est super mais à pieds c'est pas mal aussi. pour ce qui est de la foule il vaut mieux venir début juillet et après en haute ardeche.
La visite de orgnac de 8 heures est pour des gens un peu sportifs car c'est vraiment de la spéléo. Pour moi, l'aven d'orgnac et la cocalière sont les 2 grottes qui sont intéressante. Les autres c'est pas terrible. La casquade du ray pic est à voir mais il y a de nonmbreuses autres balades à voir.
Merci pour votre réponse, qui m'a permis de revoir tout notre itinéraire et de modifier pas mal de choses:
sam 4/07: route et nuit au camping Le rieutord à St Vincent de Barrès
dim 5/07: visite d'Aubignas - Alba la romaine - gorges de la Ste Baume - nuit au camping Le Castelas à St Martin d'Ardèche
lun 6/07: canoë: descente de Vallon à Gournier - nuit à Gournier
mar 7/07: canoë: descente de Gournier à St Martin d'ardèche - rando souterraine à l'aven d'Orgnac (3h) - nuit au camping la fontinelle à Bessas
mer 8/07: visite de la grotte la cocalière - Naves - bois de Païolive - nuit au camping le vieux moulin de Casteljau
jeu 9/07: randonnée de Grospierres (4h)- nuit au camping les chadenèdes à Grospierres
ven 10/07: Labeaume et ses gorges - cirque de Gens - Balazuc (balade dans village jusqu'au viel audon: baignade) - Vogüé - nuit au camping à la ferme de Montréal
sam 11/07: Loubaresse - Jaujac - Thueyts (baignade et rando) - Meyras - nuit au camping d'Antraigues sur Volaine
dim 12/07: Lachamp-Raphaël, cascade du Ray-pic, ascension du Gerbier de Jonc
Nuit au camping à la ferme de Borée
lun 13/07: ascension du mont Mezenc - St Clément - St Agrève: ascension du Mont Chiniac -nuit au camping du lac de Devesset
mar 14/07: tour du lac de Devesset - Lalouvesc (rando 4h) - nuit au camping de Lalouvesc
mer 15/07: retour
Voilà, cet itinéraire me paraît meilleur du point de vue de la quantité de touristes que nous allons croiser... Après, je n'ai aucune idée des temps de visite et de parcours, alors c'est peut-être tout simplement infaisable? Nous sommes prêts à lever le camp à 8h les jours où le planning est chargé. La D24, qui permet de traverser le parc naturel des monts d'ardèche jusqu'à Loubaresse vaut-elle le coup? Ou est-ce préférable de couper de Montréal à Jaujac? Les conseils et remarques sont les bienvenus! Merci Audrey
Voilà, cet itinéraire me paraît meilleur du point de vue de la quantité de touristes que nous allons croiser... Après, je n'ai aucune idée des temps de visite et de parcours, alors c'est peut-être tout simplement infaisable? Nous sommes prêts à lever le camp à 8h les jours où le planning est chargé. La D24, qui permet de traverser le parc naturel des monts d'ardèche jusqu'à Loubaresse vaut-elle le coup? Ou est-ce préférable de couper de Montréal à Jaujac? Les conseils et remarques sont les bienvenus! Merci Audrey
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bonjour,
je pense qu'il est dommage de dormir à st martin d'ardechete apres remonter pour faire la descente des gorges. Il vaut peut etre mieux revenir vers ruoms, vallon ou la bastide virac ... Comme ca le soir balade a Vallon puis faire la descente en 2 jours après. Dormir à st martin. Pas loin un beau village dans le gard ( Egueize, les cascades du sautadet.). A montréal il n'y a rien si ce n'est un pseudo chateau ( cher pour pas frand chose seloin moi). Lorsque vous visitez vogue il vau mieux rester dans le coin plutot que de repartir. Je crois que la spéléo a orgnac dure la journée sinon c'est la visite simple. A vérifier. En ce qui concerne la haute ardeche je ne connait pas trop sauf pour y passer une journée comme ça. A grospierres il y a aussi des vestiges romains ( pas des menihirs mais les autres ) J'ai un trou sur le nom !!! En allant vers naves il faut aussi visiter les vans, il y a de belels balades. Le viel audon est sympa surtout pour des enfants car c'est une ferme pédagogique écolo. Il ne faut pas beaucoup de temps pour il y aller à pieds. les enfants le font. Si vous voulez d'autres renseignements n'hésitez pas.
je pense qu'il est dommage de dormir à st martin d'ardechete apres remonter pour faire la descente des gorges. Il vaut peut etre mieux revenir vers ruoms, vallon ou la bastide virac ... Comme ca le soir balade a Vallon puis faire la descente en 2 jours après. Dormir à st martin. Pas loin un beau village dans le gard ( Egueize, les cascades du sautadet.). A montréal il n'y a rien si ce n'est un pseudo chateau ( cher pour pas frand chose seloin moi). Lorsque vous visitez vogue il vau mieux rester dans le coin plutot que de repartir. Je crois que la spéléo a orgnac dure la journée sinon c'est la visite simple. A vérifier. En ce qui concerne la haute ardeche je ne connait pas trop sauf pour y passer une journée comme ça. A grospierres il y a aussi des vestiges romains ( pas des menihirs mais les autres ) J'ai un trou sur le nom !!! En allant vers naves il faut aussi visiter les vans, il y a de belels balades. Le viel audon est sympa surtout pour des enfants car c'est une ferme pédagogique écolo. Il ne faut pas beaucoup de temps pour il y aller à pieds. les enfants le font. Si vous voulez d'autres renseignements n'hésitez pas.
Bonjour Muuchette07,
Merci pour vos réponses. Nous avons sélectionné quelques campings en fonction des prix et surtout de la taille du camping (pour nous, il est hors de question de dormir à Vallon dans un gros camping plein de touristes, on préfère faire des km supplémentaires et dormir au camping à la ferme de Montréal... on aime le calme et le silence de la nature....)
D'ailleurs, merci pour l'info pour Aiguèze, nous y avons trouvé un camping à la ferme de 12 emplacements, voilà exactement le genre de camping que nous recherchons!
Et le lendemain, on louera un canoë à St martin d'ardèche (le loueur nous emmène à Vallon, et on récupère la voiture à St Martin le lendemain)
On rajouterait bien un jour pour visiter la cascade du sautadet et les gorges de la cèze... Ca vaut le coup?
Pour la visite de l'aven d'orgnac, on peut faire une rando spéléo de 3h... qui doit être moins physique que celle de 8h! J'ai vérifié sur leur site.
Sinon, vous avez quelques avis sur les campings cités? Quand doit-on réserver, car à chaque fois on ne restera qu'une nuit (en général, ils n'aiment pas trop ça car on bloque une place... pour seulement une nuit!)
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Recoucou,
La descente de l'ardeche en canoe est plus sympasur 2 jours entiers. Je pense que orgnac en spéléo après la descente ca risque d'etre fatiguant. Si vous voulez pas dormir sur vallon il y a un village, lagorce, qui doit avoir un camping à la ferme et c'est dans la valée de l'ibie . Jolis coins. Sinon proche de vallon et près de ruoms et de grospierres vous avez sampzon et son rocher, joli panorama. La il y a 2 camping comme vous rechercher ( le mas de la source et les trouillas. C'est tranquille. Les cascades du sautadet c'est joli mais des fois veaucoup de monde. Je ne connais pas trop les campings cités.
Bonsoir et a plus si besoin.
La descente de l'ardeche en canoe est plus sympasur 2 jours entiers. Je pense que orgnac en spéléo après la descente ca risque d'etre fatiguant. Si vous voulez pas dormir sur vallon il y a un village, lagorce, qui doit avoir un camping à la ferme et c'est dans la valée de l'ibie . Jolis coins. Sinon proche de vallon et près de ruoms et de grospierres vous avez sampzon et son rocher, joli panorama. La il y a 2 camping comme vous rechercher ( le mas de la source et les trouillas. C'est tranquille. Les cascades du sautadet c'est joli mais des fois veaucoup de monde. Je ne connais pas trop les campings cités.
Bonsoir et a plus si besoin.
Merci beaucoup pour ces infos qui nous seront fort utiles! A bientôt
Audrey
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leqdu bonjour. Merci de votre réponse. Je sois toujours heureux de recevoir des voyageurs. En se moment je me soigne d'une sciatique douloureuse qui j'espère me quittera pour que je puisse repartir dans ma chère Russie, et autres pays de l'Est. Je rectifie pour Vallon Pont-d'Arc: il n'y a pas que des drogués !! On y rencontre aussi bien des gens, français et étrangers forts sympathiques. La région que j'habite, l'Ardèche du nord est plus sauvage et moins fréquentée que l'Ardèche du sud. Les gorges de l'Eyrieux, proches, sont aussi moins fréquentées mais je ne sais pas dans quelle mesure on peu y pratiquer le canoé. Il y a aussi les Gorges entre Lamastre et Tournon, très sauvages qui commencent à 25 km. de chez moi. A bientot et bonne préparation.
papy-russ
Bonjour, nous avons lu qu'il y avait une train à vapeur, le Mastrou, qui faisait l'A/R Tournon-Lamastre en suivant les gorges (20€/pers, quand même!), je pense que ça doit être la meilleure manière de voir les gorges du Doux sans avoir à les arpenter à pied, car aucune route ne longe ces gorges. Qu'en pensez-vous?
Bonne journée
Audrey
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bonjour. Le "Mastrou "dont vous parlez a des difficulté financières et je ne suis pas sur qu'il ait fonctionner cette année. Espérons qu'il reprendra l'année prochaine. C'est en effet une bonne manière de voir les gorges du Doux. Hier matin, j'ai eu la surprise en me levant de voir la première...neige !! Ce matin il ne fait que deux degrès. Je pars cet apres midi pour Avignon rencontrer des amis de Russie pour préparer mes prochainres escapades 2009 !! A bientot.
papy-russ
Ah, les préparations de voyage... quelle excitation! Profitez-en bien!
Bon, pour le mastrou, on verra bien sur place s'il est encore en service... dommage...
bons préparatifs!
Audrey
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merci de votre réponse. Je pense que le "Mastrou" re fonctionnera l'année prochaine. Je rentre d'une journée a Avignon où j'ai eu l'immense plaisir de rencontrer ma chère professeur de français à Moscou, encore en bonne forme à 87 ans... et aui m'a fair connaître un jeune couple dont la femme est russe et qui a sa famille à Novosibyrsk sue la route du Transsibérien. Voila un nouveau contact pour le projet du Baïkal !!! Il me reste l'hiver pour préparer et surtout poour me retapper ( je souffre encore un peu de douleurs de sciatiques) .Je vais aller me réchauffer en Italie où ma fille et ma petite fille on définitivement élu domicile !!! Mon dernier récit de voyage va partir pour Moscou dans quelques jours..et sera peut-être édité là-bas...à suivre. Bonne suite et à bientot
papy-russ
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The thing is, I have quite a few strict criteria... First and foremost, I *need* a city that’s bustling with people everywhere—I really don’t like quiet, small countryside towns. Nightlife is super important to me, especially on weekends. It’s crucial that there’s a wide range of options for going out in the evening (mostly bars—I’m not really into nightclubs, but I’d like to be one day if possible). The social aspect is the *most* important thing (honestly, the *only* thing that matters to me). I don’t care at all about living conditions, safety, cleanliness, or whether things work smoothly. But I *do* need a place where people are generally "chill"—not cold, rigid, or overly professional, with social norms that don’t make my head spin. I know I’ll never find the same Latin vibe here in France, haha, but I’m trying to survive anyway.
In France, I’ve always lived in Essonne (91), around Bures-sur-Yvette / Les Ulis / Gif / Orsay, etc. I *hate* it—way too quiet, empty streets, and zero activities that suit me. There’s not a single proper bar in any of the surrounding towns, just PMU tobacco shops, and nightlife is nonexistent.
I went to Hossegor once with friends—great vibe, nightlife, bars, beach, etc. But I’m guessing it’s *super* expensive to buy a place there, close to the action (and I’m not even sure if it’s a nice place to live overall).
When I came back to France, I spent 3 months in Paris because I thought it would obviously be the closest to what I was looking for. I still have horrible memories of it—it haunted me so much that I had to escape the capital in a hurry... And I was (I think?) in one of the best neighborhoods for my tastes: Belleville.
So here I am, going in circles because I don’t know enough about French cities. All my friends love quiet, small provincial towns or even living alone in the mountains.
A couple told me about Montreuil, but they were there a long time ago, so I don’t know what it’s like now. They said there was activity, that the city was pretty big, and that there was a good nightlife scene (bars, nightclubs, all kinds of outings), plus the metro (which would make it easy to get to Paris or for people to come to Montreuil from Paris).
So, for now, Montreuil is my only option, but I’m scared and would love other opinions (on Montreuil and other possibilities).
Sorry for the novel, but this is *really* important to me—my future depends on it, in a way ^^'
Thanks so much for reading and for any help you can give!
Hello,
At the beginning of June, we’ll be spending a few days in Sardinia. We’ve decided to return via a detour through Corsica and want to make the crossing from Santa Teresa di Gallura to Bonifacio (2 people and 1 car). There are currently two companies, Moby Lines and Ichnusa Lines, that operate this route. Unfortunately, we don’t know either of them at all. The prices and crossing times are pretty much the same, and we’d like to choose the most reliable one (punctuality/risk of cancellation for a booked crossing) and, if possible, the more comfortable of the two. Could you share your thoughts on either company to help us decide? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Have a great day.
Hi everyone,
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
Hi,
We’re heading to Corsica at the end of July, and after a 4-night stay in Zonza, I’d like to head toward Cargèse or Porto to visit the Calanques de Piana. What’s the actual travel time? Maps says 2h40/3h, but I’m wondering if that’s really accurate.
How long does it take to get back to Ajaccio Airport afterward?
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I saw that the first tram from Pont du Garigliano leaves at 5:15 AM, and by taking the RER B at Cité Universitaire afterward, I’d arrive at Roissy at 6:30 AM—2 hours before my international flight.
Is this doable, or not? If anyone’s done this before, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re about to finalize a booking for late July near the Pink Granite Coast. We’re wondering about the traffic jams that could make our trip miserable, given how famous the place is—we’re excited to see it too. Could it get pretty bad?
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
In June 2020, my wife and I will be visiting Brittany and Normandy. We’d especially love to explore villages that aren’t part of the usual tourist routes. We enjoy traveling off the beaten path.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
Hello everyone,
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Hi there,
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
Hi everyone,
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
Hi,
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
Hi everyone,
We’ve wanted to visit Alsace for a long time to see the famous and well-known "Christmas markets."
Apart from the one in Strasbourg, could you give us some tips on other markets (Sélestat, Colmar, Mulhouse)?
Also, any recommendations for hotels, restaurants, or things to see, etc.?
I know my question is a bit "basic," but we really need some expert advice.
Thanks in advance to all.
Hi there,
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
How do I get to ibis budget coeur orly from the Metro Line 14 Orly station on foot
We’ll be back from a river cruise with a stop in Strasbourg for just the afternoon and evening. We’d like to spend the afternoon in either Colmar or Kaysersberg and then return to Strasbourg for dinner and a stroll afterward. I’d love your advice on which spot—Colmar or Kaysersberg—you’d recommend. I’ve noticed there’s a bus line 145 that runs from Colmar to Kaysersberg, taking about 40 minutes and costing around 5 €.
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Hi there,
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
Hi
Does anyone know a reliable and affordable shuttle service from Roissy airport to Lille train station?
I know there are TGVs, but we’d like to avoid a long wait at Roissy station.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
BD
Hi there,
We’re heading to Forcalquier as a couple and would love to explore the Valensole area, including the Verdon Gorge, etc. We’ll be there for 5 days, so I’d like to put together a little rundown of things to see, plus the best tips—what to avoid, what to recommend, restaurants, and so on.
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone, after a stay in the South and one in the North, I’m planning a mini road trip in Corsica (Bastia-Bastia) in June to explore places I haven’t seen yet. Since we’re heading to the mountains later this year, we’ve deliberately skipped the Corsican mountains. Could you share your thoughts and, most importantly, suggest things to see? We love nature, reasonable hikes, peaceful spots, and small villages. No cities. No boat excursions (yes, that includes Piana and Scandola). We already know the area between Bastia and Calvi.
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure
Hi everyone,
I’m spending two days in Lille. Any places you’d recommend? I was thinking of visiting Vieux Lille, which I’ve been told about.
Would you have any shops, museums, or typical restaurants to suggest for a great time?
Thanks! Have a nice day
Thanks! Have a nice day