Declarant les bijoux, que reste t il d'illegal?
Retour de la Thaïlande: objets aux douanes françaises?
by KinKa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je ramene dans sac a dos, argent, jade, ivoire et fantaisie ( quantite destine vente ), 5 bouteilles de sois disant wisky contenant cobra et scorpion ( a peu pres 3 L ), une piece antique avec certificat ( y a t il meilleure adresse que Silom? Et quelle est la legislation douaniere?) un peu de hi fi made in china, et autre copies...
Declarant les bijoux, que reste t il d'illegal?
Declarant les bijoux, que reste t il d'illegal?
retourner a la case depart sans passer par la case prison,
Salut Renosu, ton message est explicite mais ne repond pas a mes questions.
deja la legislation sur l importation d argent n est pas simple, l ivoire totalement interdit, les copies aussi
si tu passes sans declarer et toper c'est amende plus taxes a payer
si tu as toutes les factures tu peux declarer ce que tu achetes pour la vente dans un bureau avant de sortir de sous douanes mais c'est pas marrant marrant
pour tous le reste tu as un maximum de 460 € il me semble
si tu passes sans declarer et toper c'est amende plus taxes a payer
si tu as toutes les factures tu peux declarer ce que tu achetes pour la vente dans un bureau avant de sortir de sous douanes mais c'est pas marrant marrant
pour tous le reste tu as un maximum de 460 € il me semble
J ai ce qu il faut pour declarer l argent + fantaisie, (oublie l ivoire pas achete). La declaration en douane est risque sachant ce que j aurais dans le deuxieme sac.
460 max ok.
pour le reste?
Bonjour,
Tu sais bien que tout ce qui est du liquide, crème, pâte, (de plus de 100ml) sont interdits en cabine. Partant de France ou de Thaïlande. Ces choses là, tu peux les mettre dans le bagage en soute. De même, les ciseaux, couteau, briquet, allumettes. Tout ce qui est explosif ou inoffensif à la santé (pétrole, alcool à brûler, vernis à oncles, etc..) est strictement interdit en cabine, pour l'EUROPE, non seulement en France. Quant aux USA, je ne sais pas du tout. Parlons de l'Europe.
Quant à l'ivoire, même tout ce qui rapporte à l'éléphant, c'est interdit (Convention de Washington). Méfie toi. Exemple : tortue marine, ou objets fabriqués à partir de la tortue, oiseaux empaillés rares. De même, les coraux. Les cadeaux apportés en France dont la valeur n'excède pas 150 euros. Si, tu en as plus, il faut les déclarer à la douane. Il y aura deux taxes à payer (douanière et TVA) que de se faire confisquer les marchandises avec une grosse amende.
5 bouteilles de sois disant wisky contenant cobra et scorpion ( a peu pres 3 L )
Si tu es tout seul, c'est un peu trop (Ivrogne, va).😄😄
une piece antique avec certificat ( y a t il meilleure adresse que Silom? Et quelle est la legislation douaniere?) Il faut la montrer en passant à la douane. Pour qu'elle vérifie si ce n'est pas des objets antiques volés puis revendus. S'il y a problème, c'est le passeur qui est puni par la loi mais pas le vendeur.
un peu de hi fi made in china, et autre copies...
Déjà, si c'est de la copie sur CD ou DVD, des films de cinéma, non français ou anglais, c'est bon. Quant au Hi Fi, si c'est de la contrefaçon, tu as droit à la garde vue, c'est direct. Même, si tu prouves ton innocence, voire l'ignorance de la contrefaçon. C'est toujours le passeur qui est puni par la loi. En fonction de l'importance des objets importés, l'amende pourrait s'élever à 4 fois du prix réel auquel s'ajoute une forte amende.
Une remarque, les gens qui achètent du matériel photo (camescope, appareil numérique) croient faire de bonnes affaires. Mais, en arrivant en France, ces produits sont soumis à 2 taxes (douanière + TVA sur le prix réel vendu en France). tout compte fait, ça revient plus cher que d'acheter ces appareils en France. Surtout pour la garantie. Pour faire une bonne affaire, il faut que le prix d'achat de ces marchandises, au VN, coûte carrément moitié prix par rapport à celui en France. Sinon, cela ne vaut pas la peine.
D'ailleurs, renseigne toi à la douane avant de faire tes bagages. D'ailleurs, les voyagistes pourront te donner ses formalités.
Surtout, ne fais pas comme dans "Midnight Express". Coup sûr que tu auras droit à un billet gratuit pour l'enfer, pas pour la France.😏😏😏
Revenons à la réalité. Si tu as des bijoux de valeur et que tu les portes sur toi, c'est bon. Par contre, si tu les mets dans ton sac à main ou autres, il faut les déclarer (petites astuces). Cordialement QH
Quant à l'ivoire, même tout ce qui rapporte à l'éléphant, c'est interdit (Convention de Washington). Méfie toi. Exemple : tortue marine, ou objets fabriqués à partir de la tortue, oiseaux empaillés rares. De même, les coraux. Les cadeaux apportés en France dont la valeur n'excède pas 150 euros. Si, tu en as plus, il faut les déclarer à la douane. Il y aura deux taxes à payer (douanière et TVA) que de se faire confisquer les marchandises avec une grosse amende.
5 bouteilles de sois disant wisky contenant cobra et scorpion ( a peu pres 3 L )
Si tu es tout seul, c'est un peu trop (Ivrogne, va).😄😄
une piece antique avec certificat ( y a t il meilleure adresse que Silom? Et quelle est la legislation douaniere?) Il faut la montrer en passant à la douane. Pour qu'elle vérifie si ce n'est pas des objets antiques volés puis revendus. S'il y a problème, c'est le passeur qui est puni par la loi mais pas le vendeur.
un peu de hi fi made in china, et autre copies...
Déjà, si c'est de la copie sur CD ou DVD, des films de cinéma, non français ou anglais, c'est bon. Quant au Hi Fi, si c'est de la contrefaçon, tu as droit à la garde vue, c'est direct. Même, si tu prouves ton innocence, voire l'ignorance de la contrefaçon. C'est toujours le passeur qui est puni par la loi. En fonction de l'importance des objets importés, l'amende pourrait s'élever à 4 fois du prix réel auquel s'ajoute une forte amende.
Une remarque, les gens qui achètent du matériel photo (camescope, appareil numérique) croient faire de bonnes affaires. Mais, en arrivant en France, ces produits sont soumis à 2 taxes (douanière + TVA sur le prix réel vendu en France). tout compte fait, ça revient plus cher que d'acheter ces appareils en France. Surtout pour la garantie. Pour faire une bonne affaire, il faut que le prix d'achat de ces marchandises, au VN, coûte carrément moitié prix par rapport à celui en France. Sinon, cela ne vaut pas la peine.
D'ailleurs, renseigne toi à la douane avant de faire tes bagages. D'ailleurs, les voyagistes pourront te donner ses formalités.
Surtout, ne fais pas comme dans "Midnight Express". Coup sûr que tu auras droit à un billet gratuit pour l'enfer, pas pour la France.😏😏😏
Revenons à la réalité. Si tu as des bijoux de valeur et que tu les portes sur toi, c'est bon. Par contre, si tu les mets dans ton sac à main ou autres, il faut les déclarer (petites astuces). Cordialement QH
Juste interpretation. Merci pour les infos.
a +++
bien plus simple d envoyer un colis ups de 10 ou 25 kg (pas cher et tout compris) pour ta bijouterie que de vouloir faire un dedouanement a roissy............... galere !
si apres tu veux ramener des copies (totalement inutile, y a mieux a ramener) ou de l electronique( est ce vraiment bien utile) ou je ne sais quoi, sujet maintes fois aborde
pour l alcool vaut peut etre mieux se contenter de 2 litres
si apres tu veux ramener des copies (totalement inutile, y a mieux a ramener) ou de l electronique( est ce vraiment bien utile) ou je ne sais quoi, sujet maintes fois aborde
pour l alcool vaut peut etre mieux se contenter de 2 litres
Ok. Je te remercie.
a +++ 😉
Il faut aussi t'assurer que le "certificat" de Silom sera accepté par la douane thailandaise (l'exportation du patrimoine ancien est reglementé : il faut probablement une permission des Beaux Arts thailandais, qui vont examiner l'objet, vérifier...).
Noter aussi que les représentations de Bouddha sont théoriquement a déclarer (import ou export), meme contemporaines.
En Europe la franchise biens personnels est de 430 euros (depuis 2008, ce n'est plus 175 euros), 2 litres d'alcool de faible degré (moins de 22°) pour les alcools plus forts c'est 1 litre maximum. Tabac 200 cigarettes (pour l'instant). On peut cumuler: alcool ET tabac ET biens perso.
Pour les contrefacons et copies de vetements, il faut enlever le logo de la marque contrefaite.
Le cobra est peut-etre protégé ? CITES (=Convention de Washington qui n'est pas évidente a interpréter si on ne connait pas précisément l'espece...)
Pour la hifi achetée en Asie, c'est surtout aux standards qu'il faudra faire attention (tension, forme des prises de courant, formats confus du style pseudo DVD qui n'acceptent en fait que les CD ;-(, pietre qualité...)
En Europe la franchise biens personnels est de 430 euros (depuis 2008, ce n'est plus 175 euros), 2 litres d'alcool de faible degré (moins de 22°) pour les alcools plus forts c'est 1 litre maximum. Tabac 200 cigarettes (pour l'instant). On peut cumuler: alcool ET tabac ET biens perso.
Pour les contrefacons et copies de vetements, il faut enlever le logo de la marque contrefaite.
Le cobra est peut-etre protégé ? CITES (=Convention de Washington qui n'est pas évidente a interpréter si on ne connait pas précisément l'espece...)
Pour la hifi achetée en Asie, c'est surtout aux standards qu'il faudra faire attention (tension, forme des prises de courant, formats confus du style pseudo DVD qui n'acceptent en fait que les CD ;-(, pietre qualité...)
Salut Kiti, merci pour les infos. pour le cobra, il est a l interieur de la bouteille d alcool.
Bonjour,
"Tu sais bien que tout ce qui est du liquide, crème, pâte, (de plus de 100ml) sont interdits en cabine. Partant de France ou de Thaïlande. Ces choses là, tu peux les mettre dans le bagage en soute."
Je crois que ce n'est pas le sujet ici, et que la question relève de la douane, pas de la sécurité aérienne.
"Tout ce qui est explosif ou inoffensif à la santé "
🤪 ???
"Les cadeaux apportés en France dont la valeur n'excède pas 150 euros. "
Je crois que cette somme n'est plus d'actualité, et a été environ triplée.
"Quant au Hi Fi, si c'est de la contrefaçon, tu as droit à la garde vue, c'est direct."
Non. Pas de garde à vue.
Michel
"Tu sais bien que tout ce qui est du liquide, crème, pâte, (de plus de 100ml) sont interdits en cabine. Partant de France ou de Thaïlande. Ces choses là, tu peux les mettre dans le bagage en soute."
Je crois que ce n'est pas le sujet ici, et que la question relève de la douane, pas de la sécurité aérienne.
"Tout ce qui est explosif ou inoffensif à la santé "
🤪 ???
"Les cadeaux apportés en France dont la valeur n'excède pas 150 euros. "
Je crois que cette somme n'est plus d'actualité, et a été environ triplée.
"Quant au Hi Fi, si c'est de la contrefaçon, tu as droit à la garde vue, c'est direct."
Non. Pas de garde à vue.
Michel
"Tu sais bien que tout ce qui est du liquide, crème, pâte, (de plus de 100ml) sont interdits en cabine. Partant de France ou de Thaïlande. Ces choses là, tu peux les mettre dans le bagage en soute."
Je crois que ce n'est pas le sujet ici, et que la question relève de la douane, pas de la sécurité aérienne.
Dans ce cas, fais un essai. Cela ne te coûte rien. Si tu le dis. Et cela servira pour d'autres VFistes. QH
Je crois que ce n'est pas le sujet ici, et que la question relève de la douane, pas de la sécurité aérienne.
Dans ce cas, fais un essai. Cela ne te coûte rien. Si tu le dis. Et cela servira pour d'autres VFistes. QH
"Dans ce cas, fais un essai.
Cela ne te coûte rien. Si tu le dis.
Et cela servira pour d'autres VFistes."
Je veux dire que la question initiale parlait de transporter des liquides, pas de les transporter en cabine forcément.
Michel
Je veux dire que la question initiale parlait de transporter des liquides, pas de les transporter en cabine forcément.
Michel
Peut être, je me suis mal exprimé.
On peut transporter du liquide, sauf les produits explosifs, mais en soute. Il y a un quota à respecter en ce qui concerne l'alcool.
Tout ce qu'on met en soute sauf les produits prohibés sont autorisé.
QH
il me semble d'avoir entendu la semaine dernière dans un reportage que ce n'était pas légal d'importer ces bouteilles avec ces animaux à l'intérieur.
à vérifier.
Faby
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For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
