France-Turquie en train: parcours et hébergements pas chers?
by Saikissa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour!!
Je souhaite aller de France en Turquie en Août par le train et cherche des parcours et hébergements pas chers. Je pars seule avec mon chien, mais si l'aventure intéresse quelqu'un pourquoi pas partager le voyage. Saikissa.
J'ai fait Bruxelles-Istanbul par train l'année passée, en 3 jours. Train non-stop, y compris
la nuit. Mais que cherchez-vous exactement, pourquoi parlez-vous d'hébergement ? Pourriez
vous expliquer un peu plus en détail ce que vous avez envie de faire ?
Autre chose, le chien risque de compliquer pas mal les choses. Entr'autres si vous voyagez en train de nuit, vous risquez de devoir réserver le compartiment entier. Et dans les pays musulmans, le chien n'est pas un animal très bien vu en général...
Autre chose, le chien risque de compliquer pas mal les choses. Entr'autres si vous voyagez en train de nuit, vous risquez de devoir réserver le compartiment entier. Et dans les pays musulmans, le chien n'est pas un animal très bien vu en général...
Bonjour et merci pour votre réponse,
Tout d'abord, pour quoi l'hébergement? Parce que je ne souhaite pas faire le trajet non-stop mais faire le voyage tranquille, au gré de mes envies avec un billet forfait qui me permette de m'arrêter là où j'ai envie pour visiter. Puis ensuite hébergement sur place, car j'envisage bien sûr de rester quelques temps en Turquie.
Et pourquoi mon chien? Et bien parce que je suis embêtée car je n'ai personne sur cette période pour me le garder!! C'est un petit chien sympa qui ne supporte guère d'être séparé de moi sauf auprès de mes proches qu'il connait, mais là sur cette période, ce n'est pas possible. Je sais que c'est un pays musulman et que ça risque être compliqué avec lui, mais je pensais dormir éventuellement sous tente là bas. Mais si vraiment pas possible avec lui, possible encore que je revois mon projet. Mon message sur le site était aussi pour avoir l'avis de voyageurs concernant cette destination avec lui. En fait j'ai opté pour le train en Europe avec lui, du fait de sa présence sinon, c'était l'Afrique en avion!!!! J'essaie donc de trouver une formule compatible avec mon envie de voyager et sa présence auprès de moi!!!! Merci de me faire part de votre expérience de voyage. Ma proposition d'éventuellement faire le voyage à plusieurs tient toujours si ça vous intéresse. Juste quelques éléments pour mieux connaître ma philosophie des voyages ; J'ai l'esprit plutôt aventurier, je n'aime pas les plans trop tracés à l'avance. Je privilégie avant tout la rencontre, mais je ne suis pas non plus une routarde car j'ai besoin d'un peu de confort avec un minimum de 2 douches par jour et un sommeil correct. Ceci correspond à mon âge, (48 ans). Voici mon adresse e.mail perso, plus pratique pour votre réponse : saikissa@live.fr Merci donc si vous souhaitez me répondre, votre message sera bienvenu.
Tout d'abord, pour quoi l'hébergement? Parce que je ne souhaite pas faire le trajet non-stop mais faire le voyage tranquille, au gré de mes envies avec un billet forfait qui me permette de m'arrêter là où j'ai envie pour visiter. Puis ensuite hébergement sur place, car j'envisage bien sûr de rester quelques temps en Turquie.
Et pourquoi mon chien? Et bien parce que je suis embêtée car je n'ai personne sur cette période pour me le garder!! C'est un petit chien sympa qui ne supporte guère d'être séparé de moi sauf auprès de mes proches qu'il connait, mais là sur cette période, ce n'est pas possible. Je sais que c'est un pays musulman et que ça risque être compliqué avec lui, mais je pensais dormir éventuellement sous tente là bas. Mais si vraiment pas possible avec lui, possible encore que je revois mon projet. Mon message sur le site était aussi pour avoir l'avis de voyageurs concernant cette destination avec lui. En fait j'ai opté pour le train en Europe avec lui, du fait de sa présence sinon, c'était l'Afrique en avion!!!! J'essaie donc de trouver une formule compatible avec mon envie de voyager et sa présence auprès de moi!!!! Merci de me faire part de votre expérience de voyage. Ma proposition d'éventuellement faire le voyage à plusieurs tient toujours si ça vous intéresse. Juste quelques éléments pour mieux connaître ma philosophie des voyages ; J'ai l'esprit plutôt aventurier, je n'aime pas les plans trop tracés à l'avance. Je privilégie avant tout la rencontre, mais je ne suis pas non plus une routarde car j'ai besoin d'un peu de confort avec un minimum de 2 douches par jour et un sommeil correct. Ceci correspond à mon âge, (48 ans). Voici mon adresse e.mail perso, plus pratique pour votre réponse : saikissa@live.fr Merci donc si vous souhaitez me répondre, votre message sera bienvenu.
Bonjour,
Pour le chien, le fait que la Turquie soit un pays musulman ne change rien à l'affaire.
Michel
Pour le chien, le fait que la Turquie soit un pays musulman ne change rien à l'affaire.
Michel
En ce qui concerne le trajet, si on veut faire quelque chose de raisonnablement direct, il y a deux
options possibles : Paris-Munich-Vienne-Budapest, et ensuite bifurquer soit vers Belgrade, soit
vers Bucarest. Les deux trajets se rejoingnent à Dimitrovgrad en Bulgarie pour ensuite arriver à
Istanbul.
Il y a une troisième option - qui me tenterait bien un jour - qui consiste, de Belgrade, à descendre vers Thessalonique et ensuite de rejoindre Istanbul par la ligne qui traverse le nord de la Grèce. Compter un jour de plus que les deux autres trajets.
Il faut savoir, dans tous les cas, que certains de ces trajets ne sont faisables qu'en train de nuit : Bucarest-Istanbul (trajet de 22 heures, quand tout va bien) et Belgrade-Istanbul (25 heures, idem). Thessalonique-Istanbul aussi, mais là je ne connais pas la durée. Le train de jour sur ce trajet (avec 2 changements quand même) a été supprimé l'année passée. Dans tous ces cas, il n'y a qu'un train par jour. Pour le trajet Budapest-Bucarest, moi je l'ai fait aussi de nuit, mais je ne sais pas s'il y a d'autres options.
Pour les trajets plus à l'ouest, là vous avez des choix multiples, jour ou nuit, mais ce seront aussi les plus chers.
Question billets, pour ce type de trajet, il y a deux choix :
1) vous prenez un billet ouvert, qui vous laisse le choix des dates dans une période de 2 mois, interruptible où vous voulez sur le trajet. Mais l'itinéraire est fixe, il est déterminé par le billet.
2) vous prenez un inter-rail. Ce sera un peu plus cher, mais vous aurez le choix du trajet jusqu'à la dernière minute.
Dans les deux cas il vous restera à payer les suppléments éventuels, notamment les places en voiture-lits, quasi indispensables sur les trajets vers la Turquie. Compter environ 40 Euros par nuit. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en sera avec votre chien. Hors saison, ces voitures-lits ne sont pas très fréquentées, et on arrive sans problème à avoir un compartiment pour soi tout seul même avec un billet de 2ème classe. En haute saison, je ne sais pas. Pour la partie du trajet à l'Ouest de Vienne je vous conseille de voyager de jour car les places lits sont beaucoup plus chères.
Pour les détails des horaires, voyez www.bahn.de même s'il ne connait pas vraiment tous les trains (l'année passée il ne connaissait pas le Thessalonique-Istanbul) et aussi www.seat61.com.
Marc.
Il y a une troisième option - qui me tenterait bien un jour - qui consiste, de Belgrade, à descendre vers Thessalonique et ensuite de rejoindre Istanbul par la ligne qui traverse le nord de la Grèce. Compter un jour de plus que les deux autres trajets.
Il faut savoir, dans tous les cas, que certains de ces trajets ne sont faisables qu'en train de nuit : Bucarest-Istanbul (trajet de 22 heures, quand tout va bien) et Belgrade-Istanbul (25 heures, idem). Thessalonique-Istanbul aussi, mais là je ne connais pas la durée. Le train de jour sur ce trajet (avec 2 changements quand même) a été supprimé l'année passée. Dans tous ces cas, il n'y a qu'un train par jour. Pour le trajet Budapest-Bucarest, moi je l'ai fait aussi de nuit, mais je ne sais pas s'il y a d'autres options.
Pour les trajets plus à l'ouest, là vous avez des choix multiples, jour ou nuit, mais ce seront aussi les plus chers.
Question billets, pour ce type de trajet, il y a deux choix :
1) vous prenez un billet ouvert, qui vous laisse le choix des dates dans une période de 2 mois, interruptible où vous voulez sur le trajet. Mais l'itinéraire est fixe, il est déterminé par le billet.
2) vous prenez un inter-rail. Ce sera un peu plus cher, mais vous aurez le choix du trajet jusqu'à la dernière minute.
Dans les deux cas il vous restera à payer les suppléments éventuels, notamment les places en voiture-lits, quasi indispensables sur les trajets vers la Turquie. Compter environ 40 Euros par nuit. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en sera avec votre chien. Hors saison, ces voitures-lits ne sont pas très fréquentées, et on arrive sans problème à avoir un compartiment pour soi tout seul même avec un billet de 2ème classe. En haute saison, je ne sais pas. Pour la partie du trajet à l'Ouest de Vienne je vous conseille de voyager de jour car les places lits sont beaucoup plus chères.
Pour les détails des horaires, voyez www.bahn.de même s'il ne connait pas vraiment tous les trains (l'année passée il ne connaissait pas le Thessalonique-Istanbul) et aussi www.seat61.com.
Marc.
Pour les détails des horaires, voyez www.bahn.de même s'il ne connait pas vraiment tous
les trains (l'année passée il ne connaissait pas le Thessalonique-Istanbul) et aussi
www.seat61.com.
j'ai fait le même constat tout récemment (début mai 2010) en cherchant quelques infos pour un probable futur voyage vers la Macédoine : les trains grecs ont l'air d'être absents de la base de données Deutsche Bahn, pourtant la plus complète que je connaisse à ce jour.
Je ne sais pas précisément ce que vaut ce site, mais pour la Turquie, il y a beaucoup d'infos pratiques sur turkeytravelplanner.com
j'ai fait le même constat tout récemment (début mai 2010) en cherchant quelques infos pour un probable futur voyage vers la Macédoine : les trains grecs ont l'air d'être absents de la base de données Deutsche Bahn, pourtant la plus complète que je connaisse à ce jour.
Je ne sais pas précisément ce que vaut ce site, mais pour la Turquie, il y a beaucoup d'infos pratiques sur turkeytravelplanner.com
Il faut savoir que ce site fonctionne avec les données que les sociétés de chemin de fer nationales veulent bien
luii envoyer. Si une société (ce qui est couramment le cas des OSE, les chemins de fer grecs) ne lui envoie pas
ses horaires, ou les envoie en retard lors des changements d'horaires (cas fréquents avec les chemins de fer italiens,
espagnols, et bulgares, par exemple), les trains gérés par ces réseaux n'apparaitront pas dans le moteur de recherche...
C'est commen ça que l'année passée, j'ai du attendre 3 mois après le changement d'horaires de fin décembre pour
voir ré-apparaitre le train de nuit Bucarest-Istanbul, et ce alors que j'étais en train de planifier un voyage vers la
Turquie...
Bonsoir Saikissa,
Pour vouloir voyager en train çelà doit être sympa, Pour votre petit chien, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait de problèmes, ni en ville, ni dans les hôtels, Pour votre hébergement et faire des rencontres, je peux peut être vous aider si vous souhaitez aller aux alentours d'Antalya (Mer Méditerranée au Sud de la Turquie) Je vous écris sur votre adresse mail perso comme vous l'avez proposé.
Cordialement
Pascale
Pour vouloir voyager en train çelà doit être sympa, Pour votre petit chien, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait de problèmes, ni en ville, ni dans les hôtels, Pour votre hébergement et faire des rencontres, je peux peut être vous aider si vous souhaitez aller aux alentours d'Antalya (Mer Méditerranée au Sud de la Turquie) Je vous écris sur votre adresse mail perso comme vous l'avez proposé.
Cordialement
Pascale
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Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)




