Recherche frontière chilienne sud Lipez moins exigeante
by Grenadelle
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je suis actuellement à La Paz en voyage en vélo avec mon petit chien (si si c est possible je viens du Pérou et jusqu ici tt va pr le mieux...et mon chien est tres heureux...) Seulement je sais qu au Chili ils sont très exigeants au passage des frontières, on m a par exemple dit que certains avaient dû manger leurs fruits pour pouvoir passer... Pour mon chien, je me suis renseignée, il me faut (en plus des vaccins passeport et autres papiers que j ai), un certificat d un vétérinaire datant de moins d une semaine disant qu il va bien. Problème : je ne pense pas qu il y ait de veto ds le sud lipez et de fait ce serait a uyuni... mais du coup le délai d une semaine risque d etre juste... de fait ca m arrangerait de passer par une frontière moins tatillone...
Au pire il y a l option faire demi tour et traverser la frontiere en bus mais bon, j aimerais autant l éviter...
Merci bp d avance pr vos réponses.
Bonjour Grenadelle, gros moral le sud Lipez seule, enfin presque. Ton chien il court à côté ou tu le mets sur le porte-bagages?
Concernant l'arrivée à San Pedro de Atacama après avoir traversé le sud Lipez, le poste chilien est dans la ville à l'entrée, peut-être pourrais-tu te débrouiller pour voir un véto avant de passer le bureau de la douane? Cela ne me semble pas impossible vu la configuration des lieux, se renseigner. Mais effectivement ne pas se louper car si on te refoule vers le poste bolivien du sud Lipez pas terrible!
Effectivement la nourriture fraîche ne peut rentrer au Chili; aux deux postes frontière que j'ai passés on m'a demandé de me défaire de mes fruits et légumes, éventuellement de les manger avant que le douanier m'accorde le visa. A San Pedro j'ai eu droit à une fouille en règle de mes sacoches, pour voir si je ne cachais pas quelques pommes.
Autrement tu dois pouvoir passer par le poste frontière de Ollargue, plus court et d'Uyuni en une semaine ça doit se faire à vélo sans trop forcer, c'est la route du chemin de fer.
Bonne route Luc
Bonjour Luc,
merci pour ta reponse, sur ce passage la, je ne serai pas seule, c est vrai que sinon ce serait un peu complique..
Lorsque la route est pourrie ou qu elle monte, mon chien court a cote... par contre, quand elle descent ou qu il est fatigue, il monte ds sa cage.
le poste chilien de san pedro, est dans la ville, mais genre il y a bp de magasins donc la possibilite d un veto avant ou pas ? parce que me renseigner oui, j aimerais bien mais ou et comment ?? meme savoir s il y a un veto a uyuni, a priori oui, ms rien n est sur...
bon, en tous cas je continue a chercher de mon cote..
si d autres gens ont des retours d experiences ?
merci bp
Bonjour Grenadelle, peut-être l'as-tu déjà l'adresse de cette véto chilienne de Santiago qui parle français, elle doit pouvoir aider. Info qui date de 2006.
veteuhart@yahoo.fr
A Uyuni certaines agences ont un bureau à San Pedro, peut-être voir avec elles?
L'ambassade du Chili à La Paz sait forcément ainsi que l'ambassade de France en relation avec les collègues français à Santiago. Il suffit qu'ils veuillent aider, pas toujours évident! C'est pas tous les jours qu'un chien traverse le sud Lipez à vélo! Tu dois avoir tes chances.
Bonne chance Luc
A Uyuni certaines agences ont un bureau à San Pedro, peut-être voir avec elles?
L'ambassade du Chili à La Paz sait forcément ainsi que l'ambassade de France en relation avec les collègues français à Santiago. Il suffit qu'ils veuillent aider, pas toujours évident! C'est pas tous les jours qu'un chien traverse le sud Lipez à vélo! Tu dois avoir tes chances.
Bonne chance Luc
bonjour,
merci pour vos reponses.Finalement je me suis renseigné sur les demarches a suivre et je les ai faites...
il faut d abord aller chez un veterinaire et demander un certificat zoosanitaire, le prix est fixe au niveau national et ne change pas à 140 bolivianos. Le veterinaire ne regarde meme pas le chien, il regarde juste le passeport et les vaccins...
ensuite il faut payer a la senasag, sur le compte de la banque union 1-1053094, 50 bolivianos (idem prix qui ne change pas).
ensuite il faut aller a la senasa, au croisement de la rue bush et hands kurt, a la paz, puis donner tous les documents, et attendre 24heures.
ca s arrete la si on passe par la voie terrestre.
sinon il faut aller a la cancillera, plaza Murillo, payer 25 dollars puis aller au consulat du chili, pour valider tout.
voila, j espere que ca vous aidera peut etre...
Salut Aurore
Je pense que s'était justement rencontrer à la Casa de cyclista à La Paz, le monde est petit...
Je viens de voir le post, du coup j'ai pas pu répondre avant. Mais ça peut servir à d'autre. Le poste frontière de San Pedro de Atacama est "à l'entrée" de la ville, soit 50km plus bas que la frontière bolivienne. Le truc c'est que c'est pas une frontière comme on l'imagine, pas de barrière etc..., il est tout a fait possible de rentrer dans San Pedro de Atacama, déposer son chien, ses fruits, ou ce qu'on veux dans un hotel ou quelque pas, et d'allez ensuite faire tamponner son passport. Pas la manière la plus "légale" mais la moins compliquée
Aurore,
Cherche vraiment tout de suite un veto si tu tiens à ton chien. Je peux t'affirmer que ça ne passera jamais, les douaniers chiliens sont très zelés (ils me font chier à chaque fois) et appliquent les consignes à la lettre, même si elle peuvent paraître risibles pour certaines. Contrairement aux autres pays sudamericains, il n'y a pas de corruption au Chili, surtout pour la PDI, la douane, ou les officiers du SAG. En plus, les frontières de l'altiplano sont archi-surveillées car il s'agit des routes empruntées par les narcos et les contrebandiers de véhicules volé sur Santiago. Si ça passe je je te promets de manger mon chapeau, mais si tu tiens vraiment à ton chien, fais moi confiance (je vis au Chili et possède plus de 50 timbres du Chili dans mon passeport...)
A bientôt
Jérémie
Cherche vraiment tout de suite un veto si tu tiens à ton chien. Je peux t'affirmer que ça ne passera jamais, les douaniers chiliens sont très zelés (ils me font chier à chaque fois) et appliquent les consignes à la lettre, même si elle peuvent paraître risibles pour certaines. Contrairement aux autres pays sudamericains, il n'y a pas de corruption au Chili, surtout pour la PDI, la douane, ou les officiers du SAG. En plus, les frontières de l'altiplano sont archi-surveillées car il s'agit des routes empruntées par les narcos et les contrebandiers de véhicules volé sur Santiago. Si ça passe je je te promets de manger mon chapeau, mais si tu tiens vraiment à ton chien, fais moi confiance (je vis au Chili et possède plus de 50 timbres du Chili dans mon passeport...)
A bientôt
Jérémie
Bonjour Jérémie,
Aurore et sa chienne ont quitté Uyuni ce matin en direction de SPA. Quand tu dis que " ça ne passera jamais " , tu veux dire que malgré toutes les démarches officielles qu'elle a faites à La Paz et qu'elle explique dans son message d'hier, les douaniers ou la SAG ne voudront pas les laisser continuer ?
Aurore et sa chienne ont quitté Uyuni ce matin en direction de SPA. Quand tu dis que " ça ne passera jamais " , tu veux dire que malgré toutes les démarches officielles qu'elle a faites à La Paz et qu'elle explique dans son message d'hier, les douaniers ou la SAG ne voudront pas les laisser continuer ?
ça ne passera jamais sans posséder les documents sollicités par les autorités chiliennes, comme il était prévu envisagé initialement faute de temps.
J'ai lu un peu vite le post et n'ai en effet pas consulté les dernières nouvelles de Grenadelle, qui ne devrait pas avoir de soucis avec les vaccins et autres documents exigés. Pardon pour la réponse rapide...
J'ai lu un peu vite le post et n'ai en effet pas consulté les dernières nouvelles de Grenadelle, qui ne devrait pas avoir de soucis avec les vaccins et autres documents exigés. Pardon pour la réponse rapide...
Bonjour,
Merci à tous pour vos commentaires que je viens de lire... Zyrtex tu peux manger ton chapeau... je n ai vontairement que montré le passeport de mon chien avec ses vaccins ms pas le certificat veto et celui de la senasag... et bien ils ne me les ont pas demandes... ils m ont fait juste remplir un papier avec mes coordonnées et les données du chien. Je pense que c est dû à un manque de connaissancessur les lois dans ce domaine. .. je pense que ca n arrrive pas ts les jrs..
Merci en ts cas et bonne continuation à vous
. Le truc c'est que c'est pas une frontière comme on l'imagine, pas de barrière etc..., il est tout a fait possible de rentrer dans San Pedro de Atacama, déposer son chien, ses fruits, ou ce qu'on veux dans un hotel ou quelque pas, et d'allez ensuite faire tamponner son passport. Pas la manière la plus "légale" mais la moins compliquée
Oui, effectivement, on a tout fait le droir de commettre sciemment des infractions graves á l'entrée d'animaux, de fruits et de légumes au Chili. La personne qui commet ce genre de délits crétins peut etre amener á en payer de douloureuses conséquences. Le Chili ne rigole pas avec ce genre de blagues "border line" A bon entendeur Salut
Oui, effectivement, on a tout fait le droir de commettre sciemment des infractions graves á l'entrée d'animaux, de fruits et de légumes au Chili. La personne qui commet ce genre de délits crétins peut etre amener á en payer de douloureuses conséquences. Le Chili ne rigole pas avec ce genre de blagues "border line" A bon entendeur Salut
Bon j'ai de la chance pour cette foi-ci car je n'ai pas de chapeau 😎
L'essentiel c'est que tout est en ordre pour toi et ton petit chien !
Passe un très bon séjour au Chili, mon pays d'adoption !!!
Passe un très bon séjour au Chili, mon pays d'adoption !!!
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Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!