Le gasoil vendu au Maroc dans une Smart?
by Rillettes34
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour. Je dois partir au Maroc dans quelque temps. Ma voiture est une smart cdi 95. Je voudrais savoir si le gasoil vendu au Maroc est compatible avec un moteur cdi. C'est le moteur d'une Mercedez classe A auquel on a enlevé un cylindre(ceci pour info).
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Allez l'OM !!
Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet !
Tu as au Maroc du gasoil parfaitement "normal", comme celui qui est vendu à la pompe en Europe.
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Bonjour
Ne te fais pas de soucis Si auparavant il y avait 2 qualités de gazoil (+ ou - bons, le gasoil + ordinaire, et le gasoil 350) délivrées aux pompes marocaines, depuis le 1 er avril 2009, il n'y a plus que le nouveau gasoil, appelé Gasoil 50 (censé être meilleur que les 2 anciens car moins chargé en soufre ) Donc tu ne trouveras plus que ce dernier, parfaitement compatible avec ta Smart CDI
Tu vérifieras en demandant bien du Gasoil 50 au pompiste
Pour te rassurer, voici un article paru dans la presse marocaine :
"Maroc : généralisation du gasoil 50 ppm à partir du 1er avril 2009 Le gasoil normal 10000 ppm disparaît des stations service marocaines au profit du 50 ppm, moins polluant, à partir du 1er avril. Le ministère de l'Energie, des Mines, de l'Eau et de l'Environnement et le ministère chargé des Affaires économiques et générales ont annoncé, mardi, la généralisation de la commercialisation du gasoil 50 ppm et la suppression du gasoil normal 10000 ppm du marché national, à partir de mercredi 1er avril 2009. ............."
Ne te fais pas de soucis Si auparavant il y avait 2 qualités de gazoil (+ ou - bons, le gasoil + ordinaire, et le gasoil 350) délivrées aux pompes marocaines, depuis le 1 er avril 2009, il n'y a plus que le nouveau gasoil, appelé Gasoil 50 (censé être meilleur que les 2 anciens car moins chargé en soufre ) Donc tu ne trouveras plus que ce dernier, parfaitement compatible avec ta Smart CDI
Tu vérifieras en demandant bien du Gasoil 50 au pompiste
Pour te rassurer, voici un article paru dans la presse marocaine :
"Maroc : généralisation du gasoil 50 ppm à partir du 1er avril 2009 Le gasoil normal 10000 ppm disparaît des stations service marocaines au profit du 50 ppm, moins polluant, à partir du 1er avril. Le ministère de l'Energie, des Mines, de l'Eau et de l'Environnement et le ministère chargé des Affaires économiques et générales ont annoncé, mardi, la généralisation de la commercialisation du gasoil 50 ppm et la suppression du gasoil normal 10000 ppm du marché national, à partir de mercredi 1er avril 2009. ............."
"Maroc : généralisation du gasoil 50 ppm à partir du 1er avril 2009
Le gasoil normal 10000 ppm disparaît des stations service marocaines au profit du 50 ppm, moins polluant, à partir du 1er avril.
Le ministère de l'Energie, des Mines, de l'Eau et de l'Environnement et le ministère chargé des Affaires économiques et générales ont annoncé, mardi, la généralisation de la commercialisation du gasoil 50 ppm et la suppression du gasoil normal 10000 ppm du marché national, à partir de mercredi 1er avril 2009. ............."
Et en plus, il est moins cher ........ Surement aussi moins polluant...Mais ce n'est pas pour autant que la pollution générale disparaitra... car cela dépend essentiellement des réglages moteur. Au vu des " traces " que laissent derrière eux les taxis, bus ou autres camions...il y a encore beaucoup ( tout ?? ) à faire
Et en plus, il est moins cher ........ Surement aussi moins polluant...Mais ce n'est pas pour autant que la pollution générale disparaitra... car cela dépend essentiellement des réglages moteur. Au vu des " traces " que laissent derrière eux les taxis, bus ou autres camions...il y a encore beaucoup ( tout ?? ) à faire
c est pas un poisson ?t as vu la date 😉😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Non ce n'est pas un poisson :) ça n'existe pas au Maroc
Le remplacement des deux gasoils, un cher et un pas cher par un gasoil à prix unique a été décidée il y a longtemps. Le gasoil "pas cher" était fait pour subventionner les marocains à faible revenus, or tout le monde, y compris les propriétaires de luxueuses berlines, l'utilisait, ce qui coutait finalement assez cher à l'état. De plus, les familles vraiment dans le besoin n'avaient pas de voiture. Donc, il a été décidé de supprimer ces deux gasoils, les remplacer par un à prix unique. Et de distribuer l'argent ainsi économisé par l'Etat sous forme d'aide directe aux familles.
Il reste juste à espérer que la deuxième partie de ce "plan" ne se perde pas et arrive bien dans les piches auxquelles elle est destinée.
Le remplacement des deux gasoils, un cher et un pas cher par un gasoil à prix unique a été décidée il y a longtemps. Le gasoil "pas cher" était fait pour subventionner les marocains à faible revenus, or tout le monde, y compris les propriétaires de luxueuses berlines, l'utilisait, ce qui coutait finalement assez cher à l'état. De plus, les familles vraiment dans le besoin n'avaient pas de voiture. Donc, il a été décidé de supprimer ces deux gasoils, les remplacer par un à prix unique. Et de distribuer l'argent ainsi économisé par l'Etat sous forme d'aide directe aux familles.
Il reste juste à espérer que la deuxième partie de ce "plan" ne se perde pas et arrive bien dans les piches auxquelles elle est destinée.
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c est donc la que ce cache le poisson 😉 dans la deuxieme partie du plan 🙁
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
on oublie que le prix du nouveau gaz oil comme vous dite est au prix de l ancien le moin cher
ce n est pas une question de pour des riche opu pour des pauvre c est une question de lute contre la polution
la 50ppm le rafinage le plus poussee juste une trace de soufre
et la subvention sur le gaz oil est une aide a l economie car l energie et le transport represente 2/100des charge D UN PRODUIT
pour la polution des bus et taxi qui reste c est des probleme de moteur mal regle
une autre etape qui ariveras car le maroc a un statut avance avec l europe et commence a se positionner au standing des directive de stasbourg meme nos loi y commence
LARBI
ne t'en fais pas, le gazoil vendu au Maroc est aux normes européennes surtout avec les nouvelles mises a niveau, il n'y a plus que deux carburants qui seront vendus au Maroc, le super sans plomb et le diesel 350....
Dire n importe quoi n est pas salutaire, mais plutot de la desinformation
a savoir qu en fait remplacer l ancien GO, par le 50 PPM OK, il pollue moins, mais avant de disserter sur voila il est moins cher, bravo, merci mon dieu etc, vous devriez savoir ( site IFP ) qu a l heure actuelle les raffineurs ne produisent plus de GO ancienne generation parceque vu le traitement du brut par polymerisation active le PPm 50 ne coute absolument pas plus cher a produire,
A ttes fins utiles le Baril en Aout de 2008 etait a 156 USD et aujourdhui a 52 USD et le prix pompes inchangé
OU VOYEZ VOUS UN CADEAU LAS DEDANS
foutage de gueule oui ouarrah
pour info ave une smart tu vas pas loin au maroc les caisse avec des roue de 12 ca sort pas des ville
a casablanca on fais juste avec de la publicite ambulante
tu peu pas trop t aventurer sur des route segondaire
Bonjour, je comprends ta réflexion car quand on pense smart, on pense aux petites voitures 2 places. La mienne, c'est une 5 places, avec des roues qui sont des 195r15. C'est une voiture "normale" si tu veux mais elle n'a été produite qu'à 10 000 exemplaires en Europe, alors on n'en voit pas beaucoup. Il y a une autre voiture "clone" de la smart, c'est la mitsubitchi colt. Mais ce qui m'interressait de savoir c'est si mon moteur n'allait pas "fumer", bon grâce à vos explications à tous, me voilà rassuré. Et avec un plein, je fais environ 1000 km.
Bonjour, je comprends ta réflexion car quand on pense smart, on pense aux petites voitures 2 places. La mienne, c'est une 5 places, avec des roues qui sont des 195r15. C'est une voiture "normale" si tu veux mais elle n'a été produite qu'à 10 000 exemplaires en Europe, alors on n'en voit pas beaucoup. Il y a une autre voiture "clone" de la smart, c'est la mitsubitchi colt. Mais ce qui m'interressait de savoir c'est si mon moteur n'allait pas "fumer", bon grâce à vos explications à tous, me voilà rassuré. Et avec un plein, je fais environ 1000 km.
Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement
Allez l'OM !!
Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet !
A ttes fins utiles le Baril en Aout de 2008 etait a 156 USD et aujourdhui a 52 USD et le prix pompes inchangé
OU VOYEZ VOUS UN CADEAU LAS DEDANS
foutage de gueule oui ouarrah
Avant d'engueuler les gens, renseignez vous un peu. http://www.allmania.com/maroc/essence-diesel-gasoil-carburant-maroc-baisse-des-prix-et-suppression-de-diesel-normal
Avant d'engueuler les gens, renseignez vous un peu. http://www.allmania.com/maroc/essence-diesel-gasoil-carburant-maroc-baisse-des-prix-et-suppression-de-diesel-normal
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Monsieur
Premierement je n engueule personne
deuxiemement votre lien je m en fou pas mal c est de la pure propagande pour faire croire que le GO meme de meilleure qualité, vendu au meme prix que le 1000 PPm est un cadeau,
Mais non le baril encore une fois etait en 2008 a 156 USD et maintenant a 52 USD et par contre le GO et Sans plomb toujours au meme prix
c est tout de grace ne succomber pas au chants des sirenes et dans l angelisme
c est tout . a la ligne
Ce site est un site de voyage mais n est pas celui de l avocat du ministere des finances qui tente a faire croire au gens qu avec 70% de baisse sur le brut les carburants sont toujours au meme tarif et sont une aubaine
Allons allons vous etes naifs ou quoi ?
et pour ce site de voyage que la Smart consomme beaucoup ou pas on s en fout pas mal aussi
Ils y en a sur ce site qui ont éte balayés interdit dirais je d antennes pour avoir fait rigoler les autres mais la c est du n importe quoi qui ne fait rire personne
un bonjour de Deauville ou il fait gris
Pardon, je n'avais pas vu que vous faisiez partie de la bande de "nouveaux membres" qui connaissent tellement bien VF qu'on les croirait inscrits depuis des années et qui s'amusent à soulager leurs frustrations en invectivant tout ce qui bouge .
Amusez vous bien :)
Amusez vous bien :)
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
pardon je n avait pas vu votre imbecilitée, immense
Frustration oui a quel sujet la question reste posée,
Ne serait t il pas par contre d etre a l ecoute des autres en repondant precisemment sur un sujet au lieu de tomber dans des meandres dont vous etes l auteur, de ce fait vous avez peut etre raison il vaut mieux de votre point de vue en pleurer qu en rire
C est dommage mais VF tombe vraiment dans l absurde et le n importe quoi,
Dommage encore une fois que Mr Dugommier n est plus la rien que se foutre de la gueule des gentils menbres imbeciles et sans interets pour autruit, bien oui renseignement pris il a éte viré comme beaucoup, d autres qui sortait des sentiers battus, bon je pense qu il s en fou pas mal ;;;; restez donc entre vous a debattre sur les Ccaristes la conso d une Smart, les vaccins des chiens chiens a leur memeres, et d autres immenses conneries du genre, aussi sur les voitures dieselde location pfffff Alors de grace si vous etes dans l inculture financiere au point de ne rien comprendre a mes propos ne noircissez pas ces lignes de forum par vos reponses d une stupiditée sans faille, parlez donc de voyage il y a des gens comme Raoulx qui connaissent le sujet Larbi etc Danielle 777, Globerge, Norton 850, et beaucoup d autres mais a mon avis ne seront pas aptes a repondre non pas par meconnaissance du sujet, mais par ignorance totale sur les conversations de piplettes mal orchestées ceci dit je n attend aucune reponse de votre part la polemique a 2 balles ou plutot 2 dirham ne m interesse pas et de plus celle ci me fait perdre mon temps, desolé j ai du travail qui m attend A bon entendeur salut
Dommage encore une fois que Mr Dugommier n est plus la rien que se foutre de la gueule des gentils menbres imbeciles et sans interets pour autruit, bien oui renseignement pris il a éte viré comme beaucoup, d autres qui sortait des sentiers battus, bon je pense qu il s en fou pas mal ;;;; restez donc entre vous a debattre sur les Ccaristes la conso d une Smart, les vaccins des chiens chiens a leur memeres, et d autres immenses conneries du genre, aussi sur les voitures dieselde location pfffff Alors de grace si vous etes dans l inculture financiere au point de ne rien comprendre a mes propos ne noircissez pas ces lignes de forum par vos reponses d une stupiditée sans faille, parlez donc de voyage il y a des gens comme Raoulx qui connaissent le sujet Larbi etc Danielle 777, Globerge, Norton 850, et beaucoup d autres mais a mon avis ne seront pas aptes a repondre non pas par meconnaissance du sujet, mais par ignorance totale sur les conversations de piplettes mal orchestées ceci dit je n attend aucune reponse de votre part la polemique a 2 balles ou plutot 2 dirham ne m interesse pas et de plus celle ci me fait perdre mon temps, desolé j ai du travail qui m attend A bon entendeur salut
mesdames, mesdames, ne nous énervons pas😏😏😏
Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement
Allez l'OM !!
Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet !
tu ^parle qu il est moins cher
pour memoire en aout le baril a 156 USD today 51 USD et voila le GO en aout 2008 a 7, 30 drh et today a 7, 30 drh
ah bon il y a baisse ? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
foutage de gueule OK
bien oui, que cela va arriver dans les poches, pas la tienne, ni la mienne
foutage de gueule garanti
Bonsoir. Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi!!
Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement
Allez l'OM !!
Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet !
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Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!