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Bonjour, j'ai un guide GRP Tour du Morvan et je me demande si ce topoguide est toujours valable car il date de 2006 ? Si quelqu'un a des infos sur le Morvan je suis preneur !!!
La GRP Tour du Morvan est-elle toujours d'actualité?
by Cavavin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salut,
Ton Topoguide n'est sûrement plus à jour et hélas, pour l'instant on ne le trouve plus. Et aux dernières nouvelles (il y a moins d'un mois) il n'était pas prévu de le rééditer. Je crois que tout ce qui est antérieur à 2009 n'est plus garanti. En revanche, le chemin est toujours balisé et entretenu. J'ai fait en juillet 2011, Avallon-->Chiddes (pas loin de Luzy) avec deux de mes fils. On n'avait pas de Topoguide mais la carte touristique au 1/50000 qui reprend tous les chemins de randonnée balisés (dont le Tour du Morvan par les lacs) et la 1/25000 de chaque secteur traversé (indispensable selon moi, si tu comptes sortir du chemin balisé). Si tu ne connais pas la région, renseigne-toi auprès des gens du lieu pour t'assurer de ce que les chemins que tu comptes emprunter (si tu quittes le chemin balisé), sont bien praticables. Tout se transforme vite en taillis touffus et fourrés, dans ce coin finalement pas si fréquenté; en une semaine, on n'a croisé que trois fois des randonneurs (il y a trente ans sur ce même parcours on en croisait plusieurs fois par jour). NB: Les gens du cru ne connaissent pas toujours les sentiers alors il faut être prêt à quelques surprises comme un sentier impraticable ou presque. Ca dépend de toi; avec mes lascars, le jeu c'était un peu "tout droit!" :-) On s'attendait donc bien à quelques surprises et finalement il n'y a eu que deux chemins vraiment encombrés. Le premier on l'a évité en traversant un long pré assez haut puis un bois sans trace mais en pente et dont on savait (par la carte) qu'il finirait sur une rivière qu'on aurait plus qu'à suivre. Le second, il a fallu se le faire et là comme j'ai eu la flemme de mettre un pantalon, je me suis bien griffé les jambes et j'ai eu droit à une piqure de tique qu'il a fallu traiter quelques jours. Autre passage délicat mais qu'on peu éviter bien que se soit dommage de rater ça: les gorges de la Canche. L'été dernier elles étaient bien encombrées mais toujours aussi magiques. On est parti en mode léger donc sans tente. C'est une région que je connais assez bien et je sais qu'en cas d'orage (ce dont ne manque pas de nous prévenir, les gens du cru dès qu'on les croise), on trouve - presque :-) - toujours où s’abriter. Une dernière chose; au sortir d'Avallon, on s'est perdu un moment dans un bois. On avait un peu fait les malins et mon fils qui ouvrait, avait la carte dans la poche au lieu de la lire. :-) Mais le Tour du Morvan ne devrait pas te mener aussi haut. Voilà... Bonne route! :-) PS: Si tu te cantonnes vraiment au secteur balisé, la carte touristique au 1/50000 de l'IGN devrait te suffire. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentier_de_grande_randonn%C3%A9e_de_Pays_Tour_du_Morvan Et si tu marches au gps, ce qui n'est toujours pas mon cas :-) il y a ça mais je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut. http://www.tracegps.com/fr/parcours/circuit9854.htm
Ton Topoguide n'est sûrement plus à jour et hélas, pour l'instant on ne le trouve plus. Et aux dernières nouvelles (il y a moins d'un mois) il n'était pas prévu de le rééditer. Je crois que tout ce qui est antérieur à 2009 n'est plus garanti. En revanche, le chemin est toujours balisé et entretenu. J'ai fait en juillet 2011, Avallon-->Chiddes (pas loin de Luzy) avec deux de mes fils. On n'avait pas de Topoguide mais la carte touristique au 1/50000 qui reprend tous les chemins de randonnée balisés (dont le Tour du Morvan par les lacs) et la 1/25000 de chaque secteur traversé (indispensable selon moi, si tu comptes sortir du chemin balisé). Si tu ne connais pas la région, renseigne-toi auprès des gens du lieu pour t'assurer de ce que les chemins que tu comptes emprunter (si tu quittes le chemin balisé), sont bien praticables. Tout se transforme vite en taillis touffus et fourrés, dans ce coin finalement pas si fréquenté; en une semaine, on n'a croisé que trois fois des randonneurs (il y a trente ans sur ce même parcours on en croisait plusieurs fois par jour). NB: Les gens du cru ne connaissent pas toujours les sentiers alors il faut être prêt à quelques surprises comme un sentier impraticable ou presque. Ca dépend de toi; avec mes lascars, le jeu c'était un peu "tout droit!" :-) On s'attendait donc bien à quelques surprises et finalement il n'y a eu que deux chemins vraiment encombrés. Le premier on l'a évité en traversant un long pré assez haut puis un bois sans trace mais en pente et dont on savait (par la carte) qu'il finirait sur une rivière qu'on aurait plus qu'à suivre. Le second, il a fallu se le faire et là comme j'ai eu la flemme de mettre un pantalon, je me suis bien griffé les jambes et j'ai eu droit à une piqure de tique qu'il a fallu traiter quelques jours. Autre passage délicat mais qu'on peu éviter bien que se soit dommage de rater ça: les gorges de la Canche. L'été dernier elles étaient bien encombrées mais toujours aussi magiques. On est parti en mode léger donc sans tente. C'est une région que je connais assez bien et je sais qu'en cas d'orage (ce dont ne manque pas de nous prévenir, les gens du cru dès qu'on les croise), on trouve - presque :-) - toujours où s’abriter. Une dernière chose; au sortir d'Avallon, on s'est perdu un moment dans un bois. On avait un peu fait les malins et mon fils qui ouvrait, avait la carte dans la poche au lieu de la lire. :-) Mais le Tour du Morvan ne devrait pas te mener aussi haut. Voilà... Bonne route! :-) PS: Si tu te cantonnes vraiment au secteur balisé, la carte touristique au 1/50000 de l'IGN devrait te suffire. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentier_de_grande_randonn%C3%A9e_de_Pays_Tour_du_Morvan Et si tu marches au gps, ce qui n'est toujours pas mon cas :-) il y a ça mais je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut. http://www.tracegps.com/fr/parcours/circuit9854.htm
- Nunca se pierde, se gana o se aprende.
- "On croit qu’on va faire un voyage, mais bientôt c’est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait." L’usage du monde – Nicolas Bouvier
Merci beaucoup pour ces renseignements précieux, je vais me cantonner au secteur balisé, la carte m'évitera des déconvenus... Des chemins encombrés feront partis du risque, on les évitera grâce à ta carte. Je suis comme toi le GPS je ne vois pas l'intérêt, ça gâche le plaisir, se tromper de chemin fait parti de la rando ! En tout cas merci pour ta réponse, je vais étudier cette future rando et acheter cette carte.
Et pour compléter, au cas où tu ne l'aurais pas déjà, la liste des gites sur le Tour du Morvan si tu veux passer une nuit ou deux, en dur. :-)
http://www.gites-refuges.com/v2/recherche_affichage.htm
http://www.gites-refuges.com/v2/recherche_affichage.htm
- Nunca se pierde, se gana o se aprende.
- "On croit qu’on va faire un voyage, mais bientôt c’est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait." L’usage du monde – Nicolas Bouvier
Et pour compléter, au cas où tu ne l'aurais pas déjà, la liste des gites sur le Tour du Morvan si tu veux passer une nuit ou deux, en dur. :-)
http://www.gites-refuges.com/...herche_affichage.htm
Merci ! Je connaissais pas, c'est super pratique, y a plus qu'a faire ce tour du Morvan, vivement aout !!! Encore merci lepouce ! Tu m'as simplifié ma rando :)
http://www.gites-refuges.com/...herche_affichage.htm
Merci ! Je connaissais pas, c'est super pratique, y a plus qu'a faire ce tour du Morvan, vivement aout !!! Encore merci lepouce ! Tu m'as simplifié ma rando :)
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Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann