Ideas for a 3-week trip to Madagascar with a driver-guide in July/August
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First trip to Madagascar (couple + 2 older teens). We’ve read quite a few posts and watched traveler videos, which helped us figure out what we could do in 3 weeks. We’d like to travel with a driver-guide. You’ll probably be able to help us with the overall duration... Are we being too ambitious, or is this reasonable? In this itinerary, are there any must-see places we shouldn’t miss? Here’s our first draft:

Departure from Tana to the east via the RN2. Stop at the Analamazoatra Reserve RN11 to reach the Pangalanes Canal 3 or 4 days to travel south along the canal (taxi boat) The train from Manakara to Fiana RN7 toward Tulear Time for a short trek in Andringitra? I’m not sure... Isalo Park From Tulear, head north or south by pirogue to relax somewhere To get back to Tana and stay within our vacation time, I think we’ll need to fly... Will we have time left for Ampefy?

What do you think?
BR Brnard ·
Hi there,

We’ve been there three times and know the country well—including travel times between villages, especially along the west coast, southwest, and north.

If you want to visit Ampefy, make it your first stop. Plan for 2 days to explore from Tana and return to Tana if you have a car.

From Tana, allow 3 days to reach Vatomandry, including a visit to Analamazaotra, then 3 days of boat navigation along the Pangalane Canal. One day to get from Mananjary to Manakara. You can spend a day in Manakara or take the train to Fianarantsoa (also a full day).

From Fianarantsoa, you can visit Ranomafana National Park before heading south (one day is enough).

Plan 1 day to reach the village of Tsarasaotra, visiting the Anja Private Reserve and the area around Ambalavao.

If you want to visit Andringitra and Pic Boby, allow 3 days, plus one day for the Tsaranoro Valley, then another day to reach Isalo. Of course, 1 or 2 days for Isalo, followed by a day’s travel to Tulear and Ifaty. You should stay in Tulear if you want to go to Anakao to catch the boat the next day.

You can decide how to fill the rest of your trip.

I can recommend a great driver-guide if you need one.

Happy planning and safe travels! Bernad
PI Pingleton ·
Hello,

It would be best to outline your itinerary from Day 1 to Day 20 so we can guide you on feasibility and must-see spots. First off, taking the boat taxi from the Pangalanes near Tamatave to Manakara seems tricky because navigation on the Pangalanes isn’t always open. The Manakara-Fianarantsoa train isn’t always scheduled and could disrupt the rest of your trip.

In my opinion, you should plan 3 stages: - 1 week: East Coast: Analamazotra and the Pangalanes, then back to Tana - 1 week: Tana/Antsirabe/Ranomafana/Manakara - 1 week: Manakara/Fianarantsoa/Isalo/Tulear/Ifaty – with a flight back to Tana

As for Ampefy, it’s worth considering, but it might be too tight time-wise....
1S 1sitraka2 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

First off, taking the boat taxi from the Pangalanes near Tamatave to Manakara seems complicated because navigation on the Pangalanes isn’t always open.

There are no bush boats running between Tamatave and Manakara. They operate regularly between Mahanoro and Mananjary with an overnight stop in Nosy Varika. Between Mananjary and Manakara, only light canoes can pass due to water hyacinths and sandbanks. Same goes for between Vatomandry and Mahanoro.

The Manakara-Fianarantsoa train isn’t always scheduled and can disrupt the rest of the trip.

Currently, it’s suspended, and when the service is running, it’s reduced to just two days a week for passengers. According to Malagasy news, new railcars should be put into service before the tourist season, which could improve service.

In my opinion, you’ll need to plan 3 stages: - 1 week: East Coast: Analamazotra and the Pangalanes, then return to Tana

Why do you want to go back through Antananarivo? This loop lets you avoid retracing the same route!

Best regards,
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RO Rotsaka Globetrotter ·
Hello! Three weeks seems doable. However, there’s one unknown: the train. Will it be running? Impossible to predict right now.

Another thing: it’s feasible, but it’ll be exhausting if everything’s done by public transport. Are you planning to rent a vehicle? A private boat for the Pangalanes Canal? Public transport is fine, but it’s really tiring. And over time, it wears you out. Personally, I’d recommend finding a vehicle either in Mananjary (if the train isn’t running)—it can take you up the RN7 with a stop in Ranomafana—or arranging to be picked up in Fianarantsoa by a vehicle (if the train is running). By then, you’ll have had your fill of bush taxis from Tana to Mahanoro, then the bush boat, then another bush taxi from Mananjary to Manakara, and finally the train (all fun modes of transport but *extremely* exhausting, especially since things never go as planned: breakdowns, delays, waiting…). Switching to a vehicle where you control your stops and schedule might be a good idea after the first week or so, which will already have been pretty intense.

Budget comes into play here—an estimate of your budget and travel style will help tailor answers even better.

I’d also add that if you’re planning to visit Ranomafana, I wouldn’t necessarily stop in Andasibe/Analamazoatra, which I find less stunning and a bit repetitive.

If you spend a week and a half from Tana to Fianar via the canal, you’ll have another week and a half left for Ambalavao, then Isalo, and finally the beach. Three nights in Ambalavao are enough for Pic Boby, the Anja Reserve, and maybe an evening visit to the Ifandana Rock or the livestock market (if you’re there on a Wednesday). Two nights in Isalo are good, though you could push it to three if you want longer hikes. The rest can be for Tuléar and then the return trip.

Given what you’re planning, I think it might make sense to start from Tuléar, as others have suggested. Fly there, head to the farthest point, spend a few days swimming, then retrace the same route in reverse: a vehicle to Mananjary and the bush boat, then finish with a bush taxi (there’s an excellent premium company in Tamatave).

It’s less stressful. The downside? You’ll relax at the beach at the *start* instead of the end…

Ampefy seems a bit tricky to fit in.
NI Niotrip ·
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I’m jumping in with quick reactions:

There are no bush boats running between Tamatave and Manakara. They operate regularly between Mahanoro and Mananjary with an overnight stop in Nosy Varika. Between Mananjary and Manakara, only light canoes can pass due to water hyacinths and sandbanks. Same goes for between Vatomandry and Mahanoro.

Oh, I hadn’t specified at this stage, but I wasn’t thinking of doing the whole route. I actually checked a blog by someone who did it, and it was indeed between Mahanoro and Mananjary. So no issue there.

The Manakara–Fianarantsoa train isn’t always on schedule and can disrupt the rest of your trip.

Worth keeping an eye on before the trip. Worst case, can we also go back by car?

Another thing: it’s doable, but it’ll be exhausting if you’re using only public transport.

Yep, I mentioned that in my post. We’d like to hire a driver-guide for the entire route. But I don’t know the "norms" of the profession. For example, can I ask them to drop us off at the canal, then meet us further along after 3 days, then take us to the train departure, then pick us up at the train’s arrival, etc.? I imagine they’re super flexible, but in practice, not everything’s possible.

I’d add that if you’re planning Ranomafana, I wouldn’t necessarily stop at Andasibe/Analamazoatra, which I find less stunning. And a bit "repetitive."

Ah, that was Bernard’s suggestion—I hadn’t planned on it myself since it means going back up the N7.

With a week and a half from Tana to Fianar via the canal, you’ll have another week and a half left for Ambalavao, then Isalo, and finally the beach. Three nights in Ambalavao are enough for Pic Boby and, for example, Parc de l’Anja, plus a short evening trip to the Ifandana Rock or the livestock market (if you’re there on a Wednesday). Two nights in Isalo are fine, though you could push it to three if you want longer hikes. The rest can be for Tuléar and then the return trip.

Parc de l’Anja? Yeah, that could be interesting to soak in the landscapes of that region if we can’t do Boby. Speaking of which, I might’ve been dreaming in color about the trek. We don’t want to bring camping gear, so is there an agency in the area that can organize the trek for us, handling everything?

I think, as has been mentioned before and given what you’re considering, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to start from Tuléar. Fly there, head to the farthest point, spend a few days swimming, then retrace the same route in reverse. A vehicle to Mananjary and the bush boat, then finish with a bush taxi (there’s an excellent premium company in Tamatave). It’s less stressful. The downside is you chill at the beach at the start, not the end...

Okay, worth considering. Though I don’t see why it’s less stressful deep down...

Ampefy seems a bit tough to fit in.

I agree. Unless the 3-day trek doesn’t happen and we haven’t compensated elsewhere.
1S 1sitraka2 Globetrotter ·
Yes, I mentioned it in my post. We’d like to use a driver-guide for the entire trip. But I’m not familiar with how the profession works. For example, can I ask him to drop us off at the canal, then pick us up further along after 3 days, then leave us at the train station, then collect us when the train arrives, etc.? I imagine they’re very flexible, but in practice, not everything is doable.

No problem at all—driver-guides are used to dropping clients off at one spot and picking them up at another, even 3 days later.

So something to keep an eye on before the trip. Worst case, can we just drive back instead?

Yes, of course, and it’s a road that isn’t too bad. If the train isn’t running, you might wonder whether it’s worth going all the way to Manakara. The main activity there is a canoe trip on the canal. In that case, you could spend the day in Mananjary or somewhere else instead.
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NI Niotrip ·
Yes, of course, and it's a road that isn't bad. In case the train isn't running, the question arises whether it's worth going all the way to Manakara. The main activity offered in this town is a canoe trip on the canal. In that case, the day could be spent in Mananjary, for example, or elsewhere.

Good point, thanks.
NI Niotrip ·
I’d add that if you’re planning to visit Ranomafana, I wouldn’t necessarily stop at Andasibe/Analamazoatra, which I find less beautiful. And a bit of a "repeat."

If you had to drive back from Manakara by car instead of taking the train because the days don’t align or it’s not running, then yes, this park would be on the way (though from Fiana, it’s not that far either). Your comparison of the two parks seems pretty subjective—hard to explain—or do you have details on why you prefer one?
1S 1sitraka2 Globetrotter ·
Ampefy, it seems a bit tight to fit in.

You can visit the Ampéfy lakes region in a day. If you're planning to fly from Tuléar to Tananarive, it's wise to schedule your return 48 hours before your international departure from Madagascar (in case of domestic flight cancellations). You can visit Ampefy on the second-to-last day or even the last day if your flight leaves late in the day.
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NI Niotrip ·
Thanks to your help (though I might still be off on some points), here’s a draft itinerary:

D1: Departure from Montreal D2: Arrival in Tana (at 3:35 PM) D3: Departure east via RN2 D5: Arrival in Mahanoro D6: Bush boat on the Pangalanes Canal D8: Arrival in Mananjary D9: Drive to Manakara D10: Possible train available that day to Fianarantsoa (otherwise, the return trip will be from Mananjary to Fiana with Ranomafana Park) D11: Toward Ambalavao (Anja Reserve + another spot like Ifandana Rock?) D12-13: Trek in the region D14: Road to Isalo D15: Isalo Park D16: Toward Tulear or even Ifaty D17-19: Beach time D20: Tulear -> Tana by plane D21: Ampefy (buffer day if the previous flight is missed) D22: Leaving Madagascar (at 4:25 PM) D23: Arrival in Montreal

(Maybe add a rest day at the very start in Tana... We’ll still have a 7-hour time difference anyway)
1S 1sitraka2 Globetrotter ·
It's a well-balanced trip: part highlands with primary forest, part east and southeast, crossing the Bara region, and a western section. Sightseeing, wildlife, and flora—you'll come back with a great sense of what Madagascar is all about. It's a packed 3 weeks in a country where it's not always easy to plan everything in advance. The best approach is to submit your itinerary to a reliable driver-guide, keeping in mind that Malagasy people rarely say no, even if it might be difficult later. But it seems doable. July/August is still quite far off—you'll likely get other opinions.
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RO Rotsaka Globetrotter ·
Hi there, It’s a bit less stressful to take the flight at the start because with delays and cancellations, and since the real challenge is the final return flight—which you can’t miss—I’d rather deal with those uncertainties at the beginning of the trip than at the end.

Once was enough to teach me that!

Otherwise, with a driver-guide, no problem. They’ll drop you off and pick you up. As long as their days and fuel are paid for, it’s all good for them. No worries on that front.

In my opinion, the Ranomafana site is much more beautiful than Analamazaotra—a steep gorge that opens up, small mountains covered in forest, plenty of rivers and water, a larger and slightly wilder forest. That’s why. Plus, there are hot springs in Ranomafana. To be honest, though, I find the visits to both parks a bit disappointing: lemurs are pretty easy to spot, but there are usually a lot of people, and the forest itself isn’t all that impressive.

As for the itinerary, I’ve got no complaints—it seems well put together and should work for 3 weeks without feeling rushed. The train is a bit of an unknown, but it won’t change much in the end.

In Fianarantsoa, before heading to Ranomafana, take a little stroll through the upper town—beautiful houses and a well-preserved old quarter, giving you a taste of what Malagasy towns were like in centuries past.

Andringitra: from what I remember, you’ll just need good sleeping bags and mid-mountain hiking shoes. Check with your driver-guide to see if they can arrange it, or else with agencies in Fianarantsoa or Ambalavao (Sudmadatrek probably offers it, but it’ll likely be at a pretty high price). Otherwise, you could also do some rural tourism near Ambohimahamasina, not far from Ambalavao, as an alternative. Or stay in the Tsaranoro Valley—it’s gorgeous—and skip Pic Boby; there are plenty of other hikes to do there too.
NI Niotrip ·
Currently, it's out of service, and when the connection is available, it's been significantly reduced to just two days a week for passengers. If we believe the Malagasy press, new locomotives should be put into service before the tourist season. Service could be improved.

An indirect acquaintance living in Tana tells me that a viaduct is under repair and it’s expected to take 5 to 6 months, so I shouldn’t count on the train being available for my trip...
RO Rotsaka Globetrotter ·
Yes, in Madagascar, you learn to take promises with a grain of salt.

So maybe it’ll work out, maybe it won’t. You’ll see. Either way, it won’t be every day, that’s for sure.
JA Jasrymn Veteran ·
Just one thing that stands out to me: You mentioned wanting to travel with a driver-guide for the entire trip. But it’s not at all certain they’ll be able to follow the track between Manahoro and Mananjary, which is in really bad condition. That would force them to return to Tana, adding a quick 1,000 km to your budget—plus fuel... At that point, you could take a *taxi-brousse* from Tana to Manahoro since you’re going directly, and also get a taste of the charm of local transport—a different experience and vibe! Then you’d pick up your driver in Mananjary for the rest of the route. For Andringitra, you don’t need any gear—no camping or sleeping equipment will be provided.
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NI Nidmada ·
hi there,

This is a great itinerary, and you’ll visit the highlights of our island.

Have a great trip! If you need any help, don’t hesitate to ask!
RO Rotsaka Globetrotter ·
Good evening, I also think that budget-wise, it would be wiser to pick up a rental vehicle after the bush taxi and therefore in Mananjary. Otherwise, it’s clear that it’s going to be a significant cost without even using it and just for pick-up. But if we’re willing to pay for that, it’s definitely doable, of course.
1S 1sitraka2 Globetrotter ·
Good evening, I also think that budget-wise, it would be wiser to pick up a rental vehicle after the bush taxi and thus in Mananjary. Otherwise, it’s clear that it’ll be a significant cost for not using it and just getting picked up. But if you’re willing to pay for it, it’s definitely doable, of course.

This is something to look into with an association of driver-guides who have several vehicles. For this route, a 4x4 would only be necessary on the Mahanoro/Mananjary stretch. And even then, only if it’s passable—which isn’t certain, since in June and July, it rains quite a bit at night in that region. Another type of vehicle clearly couldn’t handle it, but it would be much more budget-friendly in terms of rental and fuel. You can expect a difference of at least 500 € over 20 days.
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NI Niotrip ·
This should be planned with an association of driver-guides that has several vehicles. For this route, a 4x4 would only be necessary on the Mahanoro/Mananjary section. And even then, it’s not guaranteed to be passable—this region gets quite a bit of rain at night in June and July. Another type of vehicle clearly wouldn’t be able to handle it but would be much more budget-friendly for both rental and fuel. You can expect a difference of at least 500 € over 20 days.

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts. Now comes the question of choosing the right driver or association. Of course, I can find email addresses on blogs or discussions here, but it’s always a bit hit-or-miss. Is there an essential association to consider? Or well-regarded agencies that also offer driver-guides? In short, where should I start? (PS: I’m not responding to those who’ve already contacted me privately to offer their services—I have no way of verifying who they are.)

Another question about Tulear—basically, "north or south"? A previously mentioned indirect contact told me I’d be better off going to Anakao, saying it’s less mass tourism than Ifaty. But when I mentioned the north, I was thinking of getting lost beyond Mangily. What are your experiences? Is it too far? Our goal is to relax but also enjoy a beautiful spot, do a bit of sailing/fishing with locals, and avoid crowds. We won’t have gear like masks/snorkels/fins, so it might be interesting to borrow some on-site.

Thanks again for your generous help.
BE Belanov31 ·
Hi Brnard, I’d really appreciate it if you could recommend a good driver-guide for my Madagascar trip via the RN7, please. Thanks, Xavier xavier.bellavoine.perso@gmail.com

Hello,

We’ve been there three times and know the country well, including travel times between villages, especially the west coast, southwest, and north.

If you want to visit Ampefy, do it first. Plan for 2 days to explore from Tana and return to Tana if you have a car.

Allow 3 days from Tana to Vatomandry, visiting Analamazaotra, then 3 days of boat navigation on the Pangalane Canal. One day to get from Mananjary to Manakara. You can spend a day in Manakara or take the train to Fianarantsoa (also a full day).

From Fianarantsoa, you can visit Ranomafana National Park before heading south (one day is enough).

Plan 1 day to reach the village of Tsarasaotra, visiting the private Anja Reserve and the area around Ambalavao.

If you want to visit Andringitra and Pic Boby, allow 3 days, plus one day for the Tsaranoro Valley, then another day to reach the village of Isalo. Of course, 1 or 2 days for Isalo, then a full day’s drive to Tulear and Ifaty. You should stay in Tulear if you want to go to Anakao to catch the boat the next day.

It’s up to you to decide the rest of your stay.

I can recommend a good driver-guide if you need one.

Happy planning and safe travels! Bernad
JA Jasrymn Veteran ·
We should start a new thread because you're replying to posts from 2020!
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