Voila, avec toutes ces armes, j'espere que vous reussirez a trouver les justes prix, non pour arnaquer votre vendeur(jamais!) ou pour grapiller quelques roupias, mais juste pour payer ce que les locaux payent et non les prix touristes exhorbitants parfois. Et vous verrez, apres vous etre fait avoir une ou 2 fois, vous vous prendrz vite au jeu, et irez faire des achats juste pour le plaisir de la negociation!😉 bon courage! Lilie
Tuyaux sur l'art de la négociation à Bali
by Lilie82
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Juste pour eviter a ceux qui le veulent de payer 10 fois le prix de leurs jolis souvenirs balinais...:)
Ne donner jamais le prix en 1er, demandez au vendeur son prix de depart. Sur les marches, notemment le genial marche d'Ubud, n'hesitez pas a diviser les prix de departs annonces par 10 ou 15. Il vous donnent un prix ridiculement haut, alors jouez leur jeu et donnez un prix ridiculement bas. Ensuite vous montez de 5000 a chaque fois. Pour un t-shirt, ne payez jamais plus que 25 000, c'est le prix juste pour les locaux. Pour un sarong en coton c'est 10 000. POur un beau sarong en satin, 50 000. Si vous pensez que vous avez atteint le "juste prix", dites leurs " this is my last price" et rester dessus. S'ils ne descendent pas, laisser tomber et partez. Dans 80% des cas ils vous rappellerons et accepterons. S'ils ne vous rappellent pas, c'est soit qu'ils ont deja fait leur chiffres pour la journee, soit que vous y etes allez vraiment trop fort. Au moins, ca vous donne un bareme pour la prochaine tentative😉 Avant de faire des achats, vous pouvez demandez dans la guest house ou vous residez quel est le "local price" pour ce que vous compter acheter. Quand vous montez dans un bemo(mini bus local), ne demandez jamais au chauffeur combien c'est... il vous prendra 10 fois le prix! renseignez vous avant la ou vous resider sur le prix du trajet que vous comptez faire. Et vous payer en sortant, au chauffeur directement, encore une fois sans jamais lui demander le prix de la course. Par exemple, Kuta-Denpasar, c'est 5000rps en bemo, les taxis vous prennent 50 000... et parfois les chauffeurs de bemo aussi, si vous leurs demander le prix de la course...Vous pouvez vous faire faire de superbes fringues sur mesure pour que dalle, mais la aussi il faut savoir negocier. Pour une kabaya, le mieux c'est de se rendre au grand marche de denpasar. mon tissu etait prix de depart 200 000rps, je l'ai eu pour 100 000 et ma tailleuse m'a dit que c'etait un tres bon prix vue la qualite du tissus. J'ai passe 45minutes dans le magasin... ne pas etre presse pour negocier!😉 negociez aussi le prix de la taille, pour une kabaya, selon le materiau et le delai dans lequel vous la voulez.
Si comme moi vous preferez visiter l'ile a moto pour pouvoir sentirs toutes les senteurs mais que vous ne vous sentez pas de vous aventurer au guidon d'une petite japonaise, vous pouvez louer moto et chauffeur. vous trouverez sans problemes des petits mecs partout dans les rues "transport transport!". la aussi negociez le prix. j'ai paye entre 90 000 et 140000 rps la demi journee, selon la distance. En general le petrol est a leur charge mais vous paierez le tickets de parking si necessaires. Je payais aussi la bouffe du midi en general parce que si c'est fatiguant pour vous d'etre a l'arriere, ca l'est d'autant plus pour votre chauffeur!.. dans un warung local, de toute maniere, vous ne vous ruinerez pas, rarement plus de 10 000 rps pour 2plats et 2 thes ou cafes.
Avant de negocier le prix de la demi-journee, pareil, renseignez vous sur la distance etc... egalement, ne les laissez pas vous dire que c'est cher a cause du petrol... le litre est a 4300 rps(0.30 eur), meme en prix local, ce n'est pas grand chose (un paquet de clope par exemple coute 8000 a 10000 rps)
Voila, avec toutes ces armes, j'espere que vous reussirez a trouver les justes prix, non pour arnaquer votre vendeur(jamais!) ou pour grapiller quelques roupias, mais juste pour payer ce que les locaux payent et non les prix touristes exhorbitants parfois. Et vous verrez, apres vous etre fait avoir une ou 2 fois, vous vous prendrz vite au jeu, et irez faire des achats juste pour le plaisir de la negociation!😉 bon courage! Lilie
Voila, avec toutes ces armes, j'espere que vous reussirez a trouver les justes prix, non pour arnaquer votre vendeur(jamais!) ou pour grapiller quelques roupias, mais juste pour payer ce que les locaux payent et non les prix touristes exhorbitants parfois. Et vous verrez, apres vous etre fait avoir une ou 2 fois, vous vous prendrz vite au jeu, et irez faire des achats juste pour le plaisir de la negociation!😉 bon courage! Lilie
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Excellente analyse et très bons conseils !!!
C'est vrai que pour tous ceux qui font une Ecole de Commerce en France, un p'tit séjour d'une ou deux semaines sur des marchés balinais, c'est toujours un plus...😉😉
"Et vous verrez, apres vous etre fait avoir une ou 2 fois, vous vous prendrz vite au jeu, et irez faire des achats juste pour le plaisir de la negociation!" 100% d'accord...
Namasté
"Et vous verrez, apres vous etre fait avoir une ou 2 fois, vous vous prendrz vite au jeu, et irez faire des achats juste pour le plaisir de la negociation!" 100% d'accord...
Namasté
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
Excellents conseils 😎 juste ajouter quelques "bankrout" quand leurs prix sont toujours trop hauts après avoir négocié, vous les prendrez a leur propre jeux et ca les fera bien rire 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Salut, j'ai plus simple
je demande le prix
et ensuite je donne le miens qui est 10 fois moins chere bien evidement et si elle dit non je me casse en lui disant d'aller chez un concurrent et 9X / 10 elle te court après
je demande le prix
et ensuite je donne le miens qui est 10 fois moins chere bien evidement et si elle dit non je me casse en lui disant d'aller chez un concurrent et 9X / 10 elle te court après
si apprendre coûte trop chère essayez l'ignorance
Est-ce si grave de payer un peu plus cher? perso, le marchandage, les faux départs, les éclats de rire, ça m'amuse quelques jours, après, je préfère les "fixed price" . Ce sont d'ailleurs souvent ces boutiques qui proposent les articles les plus proches de nos gouts (j'ai pas dit les plus beaux😉). J'en profite pour faire remarquer, que les articles de qualité, dans des boutiques modernes sont relativement chers.
laurent
laurent
Moi je divise carrément par vingt pour commencer la négociation... C'est vrai quoi, avec ces gens là, toujours à essayer de nous faire payer vingt centimes d'euros ce qui en vaut deux. Et notre pouvoir d'achat ? Les asiatiques adorent passer des heures à discuter pour deux centimes d'euros. je l'ai lu dans le guide du routard...🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Effectivement le morning price: trés bon.
Meilleur: à ubud, au marché lorsqu'il pleut, fréquentation touristique faible, donc les commerçantrs sont beaucoup "plus souples"
Pour info: noix de coco = 6OOO rph bouteille d'eau super market = 2500 soda au warrum = 3OOO
attention, depuis le 1er novembre taxe de départ = 150000 et non 100000 rph
a ubud excellent massage pour 60000 voire 5OOOO
attention, depuis le 1er novembre taxe de départ = 150000 et non 100000 rph
a ubud excellent massage pour 60000 voire 5OOOO
le géno
.......la solution, c'est d'aller au Mata Hari ou chez Carrefour..........les prix sont marques et tu payes avec la Visa.......pouf pouf........
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March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !





